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Liam
14 years ago
so you’re saying that this stimulus package isn’t going to work? I got a job from the stimulus money.. saved me and my family!!! How dare you
Wait, no I didn’t. It was my hard work and sweat that built my company from the ground up. And now they want to tax me even more for my hard work and sacrifice! I can’t tell you how many fights and strains that owning a business put on my family. Now we are in the clear, only to have Obie come along and tell me that I now need to step up and sacrifice more. This time not for me or my family, but for him and his friends. That oh yeah, America is reliant on us to pay more. That the middle class would benefit.
Funny, my parents are fixing their fence in their yard. They don’t live in an expensive neighborhood or drive fancy cars. The next door neighbor refused to chip in (they share the fence). He said that my parents make enough money to afford it on their own. Wonder what kind of economics is trickling down…
ObamaIsASadJoke
14 years ago
Wow, so you mean a guy whose only previous “achievements” outside of gov’t work were negotiating asbestos removal and disappearing vast amounts of annenburg challenge funds has no idea how to do anything positive to the most complex and massive economy in the history of the planet?
Shockah.
John ryan
14 years ago
wow it hasn’t been this bad since Reagan
Hard Right
14 years ago
Hey JR, try “since Carter” you moron.
bill-tb
14 years ago
BLS revised June unemployment up to 9.7% today … No announcement, I wonder why.
Hey hey hoho where did my job go … then the liberals will get brain dead voting.
Catherine
14 years ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD996J3NG0
Senate bill fines people refusing health coverage
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR – Jul 2, 2009
WASHINGTON (AP) — Americans who refuse to buy affordable medical coverage could be hit with fines of more than $1,000 under a health care overhaul bill unveiled Thursday by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority.
The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines will raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.
In a revamped health care system envisioned by lawmakers, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face penalties.
Called “shared responsibility payments,” the fines would be set at least half the cost of basic medical coverage, according to the legislation.
One of first things Democrats did when they took control two years ago was raise the minimum wage, raising the minimum wage is not a bad thing, but truth is thats when the jobless curve started on its climb. Obamas policies since then have only added fuel to the climbing rocket.
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ditto
14 years ago
Uh, …To beat the far-lefties on FA, (as much as I enjoy the repartee between parties,) I have say that with all due respect Philly_PA, you’re grasping at straws with that one.
The rise in unemployment has almost nothing to do with a minimum raise hike two years ago. It’s a cascade effect of the downswing of the entire economy. With rising inflation and taxation, coupled with housing prices, rising utilities costs, gas, over reliance on credit cards, the steady stream of factories moving overseas and the change from a “manufacturing economy” to “service economy”. All the while with real wages having in comparison declined for decades. Taken together, along with the hits on Wall Street, and continual rising trade deficits, has made our economy untenable and a rise in unemployment inevitable. And with the Democrat’s solution being to throw money we don’t have at it, inflation can only get worse.
I think it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I am convinced that Obama’s plan is to insure that American enters another depression, which he and the Democrats will blame on his predecessor. Then he and his Congressional cronies will try to out-FDR FDR by turning the US into a full government-controlled socialist nation (of the far-left’s dream,) These elites, (in their perverse, warped way of thinking,) probably believe that history will then paint them as a heroes.
Their problem is, that it was the manufacturing boom of World War II and the entrepreneurial investments and advancements that saved the economy. We no longer have that manufacturing base. Many of the experienced workers lost their jobs overseas and are now in service jobs. The middle and upper classes in America will have been already been taxed to the limit for social programs. Sure they could start another war and hope for the patriotic people to buy war bonds, except they have done everything they can to discourage patriots and patriotism, and no one has the spare money anyway. In the meantime staggering unemployment will lead to lawlessness and predation of criminals (just as happened in the 1930’s.) The Democrats will of course try to solve the problem by disarming the citizens and making other such useless gestures. The media will continue to preach to us about how wonderful the Democratic leadership is and how great we have it. All in a eventual, Romanesque lose-lose situation, resulting in the downfall of our nation.
Then again, maybe America will wise up and kick their butts out of office before they get us too far down this path to destruction. (Or if too late for that, go the French Revolution/Mussolini route.)
so you’re saying that this stimulus package isn’t going to work? I got a job from the stimulus money.. saved me and my family!!! How dare you
Wait, no I didn’t. It was my hard work and sweat that built my company from the ground up. And now they want to tax me even more for my hard work and sacrifice! I can’t tell you how many fights and strains that owning a business put on my family. Now we are in the clear, only to have Obie come along and tell me that I now need to step up and sacrifice more. This time not for me or my family, but for him and his friends. That oh yeah, America is reliant on us to pay more. That the middle class would benefit.
Funny, my parents are fixing their fence in their yard. They don’t live in an expensive neighborhood or drive fancy cars. The next door neighbor refused to chip in (they share the fence). He said that my parents make enough money to afford it on their own. Wonder what kind of economics is trickling down…
Wow, so you mean a guy whose only previous “achievements” outside of gov’t work were negotiating asbestos removal and disappearing vast amounts of annenburg challenge funds has no idea how to do anything positive to the most complex and massive economy in the history of the planet?
Shockah.
wow it hasn’t been this bad since Reagan
Hey JR, try “since Carter” you moron.
BLS revised June unemployment up to 9.7% today … No announcement, I wonder why.
Hey hey hoho where did my job go … then the liberals will get brain dead voting.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD996J3NG0
Senate bill fines people refusing health coverage
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR – Jul 2, 2009
WASHINGTON (AP) — Americans who refuse to buy affordable medical coverage could be hit with fines of more than $1,000 under a health care overhaul bill unveiled Thursday by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority.
The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines will raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.
In a revamped health care system envisioned by lawmakers, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face penalties.
Called “shared responsibility payments,” the fines would be set at least half the cost of basic medical coverage, according to the legislation.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/07/09/in_health_bill_billions_for_parks_paths/
In health bill, billions for parks, paths
Supporters cite prevention, but add-ons’ critics see pork
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/08/hoyer-no-one-would-vote-for-obamacare-if-they-read-the-bill/
Hoyer: No one would vote for ObamaCare if they read the bill
posted at 8:33 pm on July 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Hoyer-linked-firm-will-do-Recoveryorg-redesign-50353982.html
Updated: Hoyer-linked firm wins $18M Recovery.gov contract
Say good by to grandma and grandpa
Catherine
sorry for posting the whole thing
bill-tb – do you have a link for that?
Thanks,
BB
One of first things Democrats did when they took control two years ago was raise the minimum wage, raising the minimum wage is not a bad thing, but truth is thats when the jobless curve started on its climb. Obamas policies since then have only added fuel to the climbing rocket.
.
Uh, …To beat the far-lefties on FA, (as much as I enjoy the repartee between parties,) I have say that with all due respect Philly_PA, you’re grasping at straws with that one.
The rise in unemployment has almost nothing to do with a minimum raise hike two years ago. It’s a cascade effect of the downswing of the entire economy. With rising inflation and taxation, coupled with housing prices, rising utilities costs, gas, over reliance on credit cards, the steady stream of factories moving overseas and the change from a “manufacturing economy” to “service economy”. All the while with real wages having in comparison declined for decades. Taken together, along with the hits on Wall Street, and continual rising trade deficits, has made our economy untenable and a rise in unemployment inevitable. And with the Democrat’s solution being to throw money we don’t have at it, inflation can only get worse.
I think it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I am convinced that Obama’s plan is to insure that American enters another depression, which he and the Democrats will blame on his predecessor. Then he and his Congressional cronies will try to out-FDR FDR by turning the US into a full government-controlled socialist nation (of the far-left’s dream,) These elites, (in their perverse, warped way of thinking,) probably believe that history will then paint them as a heroes.
Their problem is, that it was the manufacturing boom of World War II and the entrepreneurial investments and advancements that saved the economy. We no longer have that manufacturing base. Many of the experienced workers lost their jobs overseas and are now in service jobs. The middle and upper classes in America will have been already been taxed to the limit for social programs. Sure they could start another war and hope for the patriotic people to buy war bonds, except they have done everything they can to discourage patriots and patriotism, and no one has the spare money anyway. In the meantime staggering unemployment will lead to lawlessness and predation of criminals (just as happened in the 1930’s.) The Democrats will of course try to solve the problem by disarming the citizens and making other such useless gestures. The media will continue to preach to us about how wonderful the Democratic leadership is and how great we have it. All in a eventual, Romanesque lose-lose situation, resulting in the downfall of our nation.
Then again, maybe America will wise up and kick their butts out of office before they get us too far down this path to destruction. (Or if too late for that, go the French Revolution/Mussolini route.)