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FedUp
14 years ago
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!! What would you expect in a Thugocracy?
ML
14 years ago
You forgot the part of the artcle that says this.
> The imbalance didn’t start with the stimulus. From 2005 through 2007, the counties that later voted for Obama collected about 50% more government aid than those that supported McCain, according to spending reports from the U.S. Census Bureau.<
Note that Republicans and Bush ran things in 2005 and 2006 – and, of course, Obama was not in office until 2008.
Were Republicans then showing favoritism to areas that favored Obama before Obama won the election?
That would be a neat trick….
@ML: All this shows is that there remains a predisposition on the part of Democrat established counties to be the first sucker on the federal tit.
Only now, that tit is so gorged with the taxpayer dollars provided by ALL AMERICANS that these Democrat suckers can suck up an ever larger share of the pie.
Thanks for pointing that out!
jainphx
14 years ago
Imagine that, i mean who would of thunk it?
Fit fit
14 years ago
My county (Obama 53%) is getting a lot of stimulus dollars. A large chunk (52 out of 83 projects) of seems to be going to the Air Force Base. Not sure how that factors in to this ridiculus theory.
Maybe urban areas, which almost always trend Democrat anyway, have more infrastructures in place that can receive upgrades/repairs? Nah, that makes too much damn sense. I’m sure it’s an elaborate political conspiracy.
Old Trooper
14 years ago
Waste, Fraud, Abuse and Corruption in place too no doubt. It is ALL Political regardless of what party does this to buy votes. Some “Infrastructure” is not necessary and is wasteful. There will obviously be no public accountability. This is just pouring Taxpayer money down a rat hole.
This why I object to Bills not being specific as to who, what and where gets funded. Omnibus Bills are what I refer to here. Both Parties are guilty of it. Paying off Political Debt with Public Funds is Criminal. It is the same as extortion and bribery.
Fit, Quid Pro Quo. Go look it up. It describes it aptly.
You’re prolly right Fit. Of course if we had the transparency we were told, we’d know for sure. Guess we will soon though, huh? They’re spending $18 mil to revamp the Recovery.gov website. Hell, I’d do it for them for half that. But, the company that got the contract gave ol’ Steny Hoyer a few hundred thou. Prolly didn’t have anything to do with them getting the contract though.
Tom in CA
14 years ago
Heard an interesting storyline on Tom Sullivan show about how Social Security Adminstation is having a ‘meeting’ in Phoenix at the Biltmore. 700 ‘Associates’
The Fox Reporter said it would have cost the government 3/4 of a million to have that meeting.
I get it. Not good for Wells Fargo but OK for the dweebs at Social Security. More Social injustice from the race baiting President, Obama.
Old Trooper
14 years ago
18 million for that website? Well I reckon someone is recovering keenly!
ML
14 years ago
Mike’s America
Larger population areas need more money. Rural areas need less. However to assume that large population areas vote for Democrats because they get more money and [therefore] smaller areas vote for Republicans because they get less is odd at best. Cities tend to have more liberal progressive views while rural areas tend to have more conservative roots [as it were].
Urban centers have a lot more funding needs. It’s as simple as that. However the tit you mention is not welfare or giving poor people money – it is services like highways, firefighters, infrastructural needs and schools.
Oh and don’t forget farmers get a chunk of change from the government – which I know in theory you oppose.
@ML: Yes ML. We all know that liberal urban governments waste vastly more sums of taxpayer money than do more conservative rural governing entities. And they get much less for it. Take schools for example. Urban areas where spending per pupil are high have much lower student performance than most rural areas where spending is lower and the teachers unions aren’t so dominant.
Thanks for pointing out once again that much of the money going to these larger, “needier” urban centers is more likely wasted.
huh
14 years ago
I sure hope the New Black Pather Party got a taste!
Aqua
14 years ago
And Pelosi’s stinking swamp mouse is getting $16 mil. WTF is wrong with these people?
Fit fit
14 years ago
More:
Aiken county (McCain 61%) is receiving the largest share of ARRA dollars in SC. $387,600,000 for one massive DOE project at the Savannah River Facility. I wouldn’t call that wasteful spending even though it is spending on waste
I wouldn’t call that wasteful spending even though it is spending on waste
If you were even remotely familiar with the project itself and how the money is being spent at SRS you would call it wasteful.
I have several friends who work there and they have shared with me first hand knowledge of how our money is being poured into holes in the ground…..literally.
Massive subterranean structures, some as deep as fifteen stories below ground, are being filled with concrete.
Massive buildings are being dismantled piece by piece, cut into small pieces and are being removed by either truck or train.
The concrete foundations of the buildings are then broken up into small pieces, and then trucked away as well.
Once all traces of the structures are carefully removed, the site is then graded and covered with high dollar sod like you would install in your own front yard.
All in the interest of “reducing the footprint”.
And that just scratches the surface of this boondoggle.
The contractors on that project are required to spend what averages out to be $1.5M PER DAY in order to satisfy the various deadlines in the funding structure.
If anyone believes that a gov’t project can efficiently and wisely spend $1.5M PER DAY without massive waste and fraud, they are a fool.
Fit fit
14 years ago
This facility was an essential part of our weapons program. Nuclear tech ain’t cheap in the begining or the end.
I’ve work on the several goverment projects and know first hand how wasteful it is, especially the military. But I’ve seen just as much waste in the private sector. It’s the nature of large organizations doing large projects.
agimarc
14 years ago
This is the effect,though not necessarily the cause.
If you figure that the worst economic cesspools out there are all the democrat dominated urban areas that overwhelmingly voted for Obama, it ought not be a surprise.
It is the chicken or the egg question: Are they getting money because they voted for Obama or are they getting money because they are economic cesspools (created by years of democrat governance) that have always gotten money? We’d need to drill down a layer to two and look at the history to tell for sure. Not that Obama & Rahm wouldn’t do this at the drop of a hat, but this legislation came out of the House with minimal WH input. It was written by the same Bozos that have been doing this for decades.
If the choice is between same old, same old or new stuff, I vote for business as usual. Cheers
ditto
14 years ago
Sounds more and more like a script for a new Godfather movie.
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!! What would you expect in a Thugocracy?
You forgot the part of the artcle that says this.
> The imbalance didn’t start with the stimulus. From 2005 through 2007, the counties that later voted for Obama collected about 50% more government aid than those that supported McCain, according to spending reports from the U.S. Census Bureau.<
Note that Republicans and Bush ran things in 2005 and 2006 – and, of course, Obama was not in office until 2008.
Were Republicans then showing favoritism to areas that favored Obama before Obama won the election?
That would be a neat trick….
@ML: All this shows is that there remains a predisposition on the part of Democrat established counties to be the first sucker on the federal tit.
Only now, that tit is so gorged with the taxpayer dollars provided by ALL AMERICANS that these Democrat suckers can suck up an ever larger share of the pie.
Thanks for pointing that out!
Imagine that, i mean who would of thunk it?
My county (Obama 53%) is getting a lot of stimulus dollars. A large chunk (52 out of 83 projects) of seems to be going to the Air Force Base. Not sure how that factors in to this ridiculus theory.
Maybe urban areas, which almost always trend Democrat anyway, have more infrastructures in place that can receive upgrades/repairs? Nah, that makes too much damn sense. I’m sure it’s an elaborate political conspiracy.
Waste, Fraud, Abuse and Corruption in place too no doubt. It is ALL Political regardless of what party does this to buy votes. Some “Infrastructure” is not necessary and is wasteful. There will obviously be no public accountability. This is just pouring Taxpayer money down a rat hole.
This why I object to Bills not being specific as to who, what and where gets funded. Omnibus Bills are what I refer to here. Both Parties are guilty of it. Paying off Political Debt with Public Funds is Criminal. It is the same as extortion and bribery.
Fit, Quid Pro Quo. Go look it up. It describes it aptly.
@ Fit fit
You’re prolly right Fit. Of course if we had the transparency we were told, we’d know for sure. Guess we will soon though, huh? They’re spending $18 mil to revamp the Recovery.gov website. Hell, I’d do it for them for half that. But, the company that got the contract gave ol’ Steny Hoyer a few hundred thou. Prolly didn’t have anything to do with them getting the contract though.
Heard an interesting storyline on Tom Sullivan show about how Social Security Adminstation is having a ‘meeting’ in Phoenix at the Biltmore. 700 ‘Associates’
The Fox Reporter said it would have cost the government 3/4 of a million to have that meeting.
I get it. Not good for Wells Fargo but OK for the dweebs at Social Security. More Social injustice from the race baiting President, Obama.
18 million for that website? Well I reckon someone is recovering keenly!
Mike’s America
Larger population areas need more money. Rural areas need less. However to assume that large population areas vote for Democrats because they get more money and [therefore] smaller areas vote for Republicans because they get less is odd at best. Cities tend to have more liberal progressive views while rural areas tend to have more conservative roots [as it were].
Urban centers have a lot more funding needs. It’s as simple as that. However the tit you mention is not welfare or giving poor people money – it is services like highways, firefighters, infrastructural needs and schools.
Oh and don’t forget farmers get a chunk of change from the government – which I know in theory you oppose.
@ML: Yes ML. We all know that liberal urban governments waste vastly more sums of taxpayer money than do more conservative rural governing entities. And they get much less for it. Take schools for example. Urban areas where spending per pupil are high have much lower student performance than most rural areas where spending is lower and the teachers unions aren’t so dominant.
Thanks for pointing out once again that much of the money going to these larger, “needier” urban centers is more likely wasted.
I sure hope the New Black Pather Party got a taste!
And Pelosi’s stinking swamp mouse is getting $16 mil. WTF is wrong with these people?
More:
Aiken county (McCain 61%) is receiving the largest share of ARRA dollars in SC. $387,600,000 for one massive DOE project at the Savannah River Facility. I wouldn’t call that wasteful spending even though it is spending on waste
@Fit fit:
If you were even remotely familiar with the project itself and how the money is being spent at SRS you would call it wasteful.
I have several friends who work there and they have shared with me first hand knowledge of how our money is being poured into holes in the ground…..literally.
Massive subterranean structures, some as deep as fifteen stories below ground, are being filled with concrete.
Massive buildings are being dismantled piece by piece, cut into small pieces and are being removed by either truck or train.
The concrete foundations of the buildings are then broken up into small pieces, and then trucked away as well.
Once all traces of the structures are carefully removed, the site is then graded and covered with high dollar sod like you would install in your own front yard.
All in the interest of “reducing the footprint”.
And that just scratches the surface of this boondoggle.
The contractors on that project are required to spend what averages out to be $1.5M PER DAY in order to satisfy the various deadlines in the funding structure.
If anyone believes that a gov’t project can efficiently and wisely spend $1.5M PER DAY without massive waste and fraud, they are a fool.
This facility was an essential part of our weapons program. Nuclear tech ain’t cheap in the begining or the end.
I’ve work on the several goverment projects and know first hand how wasteful it is, especially the military. But I’ve seen just as much waste in the private sector. It’s the nature of large organizations doing large projects.
This is the effect,though not necessarily the cause.
If you figure that the worst economic cesspools out there are all the democrat dominated urban areas that overwhelmingly voted for Obama, it ought not be a surprise.
It is the chicken or the egg question: Are they getting money because they voted for Obama or are they getting money because they are economic cesspools (created by years of democrat governance) that have always gotten money? We’d need to drill down a layer to two and look at the history to tell for sure. Not that Obama & Rahm wouldn’t do this at the drop of a hat, but this legislation came out of the House with minimal WH input. It was written by the same Bozos that have been doing this for decades.
If the choice is between same old, same old or new stuff, I vote for business as usual. Cheers
Sounds more and more like a script for a new Godfather movie.