All races have in their history enslaved, and have been enslaved by others. By virtue of this logic, we are all even. No one owes anyone anything, or else everyone owes everyone. No one born of this country and currently living was a slave, or owned a slave.

The problem is not looking back on ancient slavery past, but of the leading into potential slavery future. The leaders of today are squandering the livelihood of future generations for political gain. This is taxation without representation. It is reprehensible, irresponsible and indecent for one generation to spend greedily and then without remorse, then pass the bill to their children, grandchildren, etc. Whether it is by Republican or Democrat, it is wrong. Everyone who supports this kind of deficit spending have nothing but my contempt.

My hope with having a black president is he can uniquely tell “brothers, pull up your pants”. Time will tell how much an impact he will have. I am keeping an open mind in this arena.

Nice to call you brother, my brother. I’m half Blackfoot Indian. Blood tribe to be specific. However, you are wrong.

Other Slaves
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You’re correct to an extent. Most Native American settlements were wiped out in their entirity, however, some women and children were kept as slaves. The men would never submitted.

more than three centuries of enslavement

How much of that was under British rule? We got independence and they got theres not much more or less then a century later. Im tired of ppl telling me i should “be sorry”. My ppl were slaves too, longer and under harsher circumstances, whose gonna say sorry to me?

Come on world get passed it already, it happened and for the most part its over.

And I would argue that Whiteclay has slaves from Pine Ridge, but that is a cooperative arrangement, so it probably doesn’t count.

“Actually, 364,511 died trying to free them, while 260,000 died trying to maintain them in slave status. “

The Union armies had from 2,500,000 to 2,750,000 men. Their losses, by the best estimates:

Battle deaths: 110,070
Disease, etc.: 250,152
Total 360,222

The Confederate strength, known less accurately because of missing records, was from 750,000 to 1,250,000. Its estimated losses:

Battle deaths: 94,000
Disease, etc.: 164,000
Total 258,000
http://www.civilwarhome.com/casualties.htm

“Once they were freed then they were disenfranchised for the most part from the 1860’s to the 1960’s.”
by Democrats
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121856786326834083.html

“To me “hand outs” are anathema, however so is ignorance as it related to the complexity of the race problem in America.”
OK

“Boiling it down to a few charged buzz words and indicating they are better off then in Africa (implied), is a simplistic at best.”
But true, in the main. It’s an attitude thing. Without a positive outlook, no amount of knowledge will suffice to improve one’s situation.

Actually no, the American Indians were not deemed worth making into slaves. I am half Chiricahua Apache and most of the tribes were hunted down and killed out right as most with a grasp of history can attest to. In fact the Apache had been at war with the nation of Mexico for over 200 years before the white settlers ventured west. Even the Mexican army shot women and children to keep them from reproducing in large enough numbers to cause them problems.

So do I feel I should get money from the existing American governmetn and country for what happened over 100 years ago? Hell no, I don’t want a hand out and a pat on the head to tell me “Sorry about that buddy, heres some money to make you feel better.”

This is all about greed and political agenda’s, nothing more.

Bennie Thompson and all the other shysters should go after the descendants of Andrew Johnson in a court of law. And watch the court toss out the suit as frivolous because the descendants of Andrew Johnson can not be held accountable for actions they did not commit.

Which is why they are trying to legislate compensation because what they are trying is illegal. And those who are supporting this attempted theft by legislative fiat are also committing a crime, providing material support to a criminal enterprise.

BarbaraS You would think that the 600,000 who died in the Civil War freeing them would satisfy the Blacks.

Actually, 364,511 died trying to free them, while 260,000 died trying to maintain them in slave status. Once they were freed then they were disenfranchised for the most part from the 1860’s to the 1960’s. To me “hand outs” are anathema, however so is ignorance as it related to the complexity of the race problem in America. Boiling it down to a few charged buzz words and indicating they are better off then in Africa (implied), is a simplistic at best.

I agree with the notion of recognizing other groups which were also disenfranchised, who cares if it is along list.

Forgive us trespasses as we forgive the trespasses of others.

Amen!

Larry Sheldon” I’m all for the party of the slave owners paying reparations out of their own pockets.

LOL! Very clever, Larry. But considering that 13 of the 44 Presidents owned, or purchased/indentured slaves… the last being U.S. Grant… exactly what party would that be?

As history shows, the parties these presidents represented are no longer in existence.

FYI, here’s the story of which of the US Presidents were involved with slavery.

There is this black friend I have who was telling me how blacks from Africa treated black Americans badly. He explained that this happened because as far as they were concerned, black Americans were “the conquered tribes” and they were “not worthy of respect.”

He takes issue with the whole reparations issue. His stance is that if slavery wouldn’t have happened, he wouldn’t now be here in America (if he were even born for that matter).

Are you just waxing rhetorical, L.S., when you say, “BtW, does anybody remember if Dr. King was a registered voter?”?

http://www.nbra.info/MLKWasARepublican