Right now, Obama’s base is youth, idealistic, and very “love the one you’re with” in construct… just as the bulk of the baby boomers were in the 60s. Nothing wrong with this idealism except that it doesn’t translate to reality successfully, as history show.

Point is, age, experience and getting taken to the cleaners for your efforts takes it’s toll. Easy to wish for no one ever in want, but a different story when you get older and finding yourself supporting your neighbor, who’d rather walk to a mailbox and get a government check than contribute by working for a living.

There’s a plethora of new grads, headed out into a world with little job opportunity. That’ll hurt on their student loans. Then, when they get them, they will find themselves in a world of salary caps… either government mandated, or a business necessity to stay afloat. If they become business owners, they will find out first hand what Obama’s disdain for small business means instead of just listening to conservatives describe the effects.

Yes… at some point, young Americans will make a choice if the Euro-socialism they voted for in ideology is all it’s cracked up to be in reality. By then, they’ll already be supporting me, and our home values and earning capacity will already be in the toilet.

It’s an expensive lesson, and may take some years to reverse. But as long as the young grow up to appreciate what America was founded on… which isn’t a welfare state… it will be reversed.

If not? Hey, glad to be six feet under, or ashes scattered to the winds. And I will be very appreciative I saw America at it’s finest… when it grew post WWI to a superpower and leader of innovation. My granddaughter? So sorry she will miss that experience, but she will adapt because it will be all she knows.

Franken is the epitome of why I so often scorn the Harvard elite. Instead of using his great God given brain (he really is a very smart guy) for a greater good, he has achieved all that he has by arrogance and the destruction and expense of others, much like many in the Obama administration.

I’ll say it again… I’ll take a Palin or a Glenn Beck ANYDAY over an arrogant, ruthless, mean spirited, Harvard elite.

I do fear with the advance of Acorn (now renamed) and monies flying into it, there may be just enough time to pull off a truly fraudulent 2012 Obama re election. It’s been a few decades in years of getting here, but never before have the radical left had this much power to “get the Alinsky and Soros agendas” into action.

CRAP: The real question is when will you realize that YOU have been CON’d by CONservatism and the Republi-CON’s?

We haven’t had “convervatism” as an option for nigh over 15 plus years, CRAP. Hard to be “conned” by the non-existent.

What was your excuse for 8 years of failed policies by BUSH?? The Repucli-CON Agenda was a failure and your refuse to see it.

Tis rich… LOL “Failure” You ain’t seen nothing yet until you reap the benefits of your voting decision, CRAP. Two-three years.. yup… that’ll be a good start to see what’s coming in the economic cards for inflation, high interest rates, dollar in the toilet, expensive everything from cap and trade, and a new failed housing market because of it all. Without having much choice, I’ll be an Obama welfare state senior citizen, laughing my a$$ off at you, squirming to pay my bills and that of the rest of the baby boomers about to hit the system en masse.

In the meantime, Obama’s benefitting from Bush’s foreign policy in Iraq. Obama’s Iraq legacy is not to screw up what Bush and the Iraqi SOFA have accomplished… if he can manage that. At the same time, James Jones, his Nat’l security advisor is telling Lehrer that there is a “slight chance” we may have some improvement in Afghanistan, but not for years. Oh yes… Obama’s “Iraq” will not be the success that Baghdad is.

Meanwhile the rest of the world is testing the Eunuch in Chief because they want to see how much they can get away with before he plays CIC. Sooner or later he’s going to run out of other people’s money to throw at them…

Failure? Right on the horizon, and Franken’s in just in time to help take responsibility for it. Couldn’t have happened to a not-so-nicer guy.

At least we have that option, where the Iranians do not.

But of course Soros and the Alinsky movement have been working 24/7 to control key states. Mercy, they’ve been patiently laying the trap for decades, starting in the public education system with Ayers-style curriculum. What’s so damned depressing about it all is the population has now become dumbed down enough that they are successful at it. Apparently, the US voter is going to have to stick their fingers in the light socket before they figure out it’s not a bright idea. ala, Obama’s chickens will come home to roost… right at the time they start opening their wallets and finding it empty because of rising costs, piss poor no-choice health care, and not even a cool car to drive to take your mind off things.

Had to laugh at Cary on another thread, getting indignant, and over using what must be a new word for him… ad hominem. Wounded to the cyber-quick, he is, and complaining about the “personal attack” tactics (but not before many patient links and explanations were given…).

Didn’t have the heart to tell him it’s the foundation of Obama’s Alinsky “community organizing”; one of Saul’s own rules…. and that finally we conservatives are learning to fight back with the same successful tactics used for decades on us.

Consider Franken the last of “enough rope”, Mike. The conservatives have just enough time to watch the Dems and “moderate” GOP hang themselves… or follow the lead lemming (Obama) over the cliff. Hard to say what will come first. And then, it should be no more Mr. Nice Guy. The filth spewed by Democrats over the past eight years has become the new norm in politics. I don’t see any way of turning the clock back now.

Mata “glad to be an ol’ broad” Harley

What’s important to note here is that what happened in MN was PLANNED! Look at the George Soros Secretary of State project. They have been working to put their people into key states to facilitate the very shenanigans that were so common place in the MN Senate election.

And I’m sure Larry W., who’s desperately trying to discredit any sort of written exams as a measure of performance for promotion in the wake of the SCOTUS Ricci decision, would find himself forced to agree that Franken’s sheepskin means whit as credentials for Congress.

I personally haven’t followed the MN fallout. Hey, if that crazy State can elevate Jesse Ventura to their Capitol dome, it’s not impossible they have a penchant for Franken. Whatever the truth of ballot shenanigans, a US court of law ruled. And while we still have that system in place, I’ll be accepting it… and relishing that it’s still around in some form. Who knows what lies ahead in Obama’s America. He obviously places no import in Honduras’ four big C’s … i.e. Courts, Congress, Council and Constitution.

Perhaps you should review history and look back at what has happened in the past when elections were allowed to degrade to such an unhealthy degree.

And whether you like it or not, there is no disputing that Al Franken is a CLOWN!

Real American Patriot:
Two Court rulings including the The supreme court of Minnesota and they have ruled.

OK, so I have to ask you. Why is it that dems will now say that this election was valid and NOT stolen when in 2000 the US Supreme court RULED for Bush and suddenly… the election was stolen??

Just sounds very hypocritical and SOOOooo sterotypical in liberal actions – specifically – “Well when the ruling is AGAINST me, its wrong! When it is FOR ME, it is just and fair”

Care to share on that hypocrisy specifically?

Secondly, there really isn’t any point in playing “dueling links.” The only links that matter are the rulings of the Election Contest Court and the Minnesota Supreme Court. Coleman made many arguments, including those mentioned in Mike’s links, but repeatedly failed to show evidence to justify the remedy he requested. Basically, he (Coleman) wanted what the 2000 Florida-vote-reconstruction people did (for argument points) after the fact; retroactively apply a single set of standards to the entire state when individual counties had been given leeway during the actual election. That’s a pretty high bar; you aren’t likely to get a court to overrule local officials who did their jobs properly just because folks in ‘that county over there’ screwed up their end of the deal.

(As someone else already mentioned, accusations of “stealing an election” also require you to condemn a healthy number of GOP and GOP-appointed judges, on both the ECC and the MN Supreme Court. If you want to criticize Justice Page (Alan Page, Pro Football Hall of Famer), do it to his face. *chuckle*)

Sorry, but I’m not a librarian, so I won’t do the work for you.

I’ve followed this case pretty regularly for the past few months. From my perspective, Coleman seemed to be afforded ample time to make his case in front of a fairly balanced court, including many GOP appointed judges. My question is about the evidence that you allude to, pointing to alleged fraud. I’d be very curious to review this information.

I have a mountain of evidence which shows how the MN election was stolen. How votes for Franken were treated to an advantage over votes for Coleman.

You have no proof that any of this was false.

I can’t speak for the court case. Are you a lawyer or just a liar?

You posted a link to a story that was blatantly false. If there was a shred of truth to it Coleman and his attorneys would have brought it in as evidence and it would have been all over the news that they did… They didn’t!

here is a good read for you it includes a link to the actual Minnesota Supreme court decision.

http://www.minnpost.com/stories/2009/06/30/9951/impressive_unanimity_the_historical_significance_of_coleman_v_franken

This is in no way a stolen election! Only right wing nut jobs believe that!