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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Iranian support video&#8230; some aren&#8217;t afraid to speak out for American values</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Iranian support video&#8230; some aren&#8217;t afraid to speak out for American values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  See also Obama&#8217;s New Cajones post for background on this removal of a President per Honduras law [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ditto</title>
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		<dc:creator>ditto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democratic party is anti-democratic. the &quot;superdelegates&quot; is proof of that. They cooked that little star chamber process up because they don&#039;t really trust the democratic process via the people in their own party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democratic party is anti-democratic. the &#8220;superdelegates&#8221; is proof of that. They cooked that little star chamber process up because they don&#8217;t really trust the democratic process via the people in their own party.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baltimore Reporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Baltimore Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by the Obama admin is now in vogue when it supports extreme leftist leaders, as I  posted on Sunday. But the Obama admin is not confining themselves merely to &#8220;words&#8221;, but is evidently [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by the Obama admin is now in vogue when it supports extreme leftist leaders, as I  posted on Sunday. But the Obama admin is not confining themselves merely to &#8220;words&#8221;, but is evidently [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Slowtrot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slowtrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were removing freedom from the American people, I&#039;d be afraid of a &quot;Honduras Solution.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were removing freedom from the American people, I&#8217;d be afraid of a &#8220;Honduras Solution.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SinCity CPT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SinCity CPT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we are seeing in Honduras is a perfect example of the checks and balances system at work. The President is attempting to subvert the constitution by setting up a referendum to change election law. The Supreme Court and Congress of Honduras have both agreed that what Zelaya tried to do was illegal. The military was enforcing a decision by the Supreme Court. 

Military officers swear an oath (here and I would assume there is a similar oath in the Honduran Army) to support and defend the constitution. A good example to use (albeit a smaller scale) is the use of the National Guard to enforce the Supreme Court ruling on desegregation in schools. 

It is sad that our administration is supporting Zelaya in his attempt to subvert his country&#039;s laws. At the same time they choose to support a president in Iran who is subverting his country&#039;s election laws. 

Goes to show you how much respect they have for constitutional law. 

Again, the media ( except for the WSJ), has been woefully inadequate in providing the full story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we are seeing in Honduras is a perfect example of the checks and balances system at work. The President is attempting to subvert the constitution by setting up a referendum to change election law. The Supreme Court and Congress of Honduras have both agreed that what Zelaya tried to do was illegal. The military was enforcing a decision by the Supreme Court. </p>
<p>Military officers swear an oath (here and I would assume there is a similar oath in the Honduran Army) to support and defend the constitution. A good example to use (albeit a smaller scale) is the use of the National Guard to enforce the Supreme Court ruling on desegregation in schools. </p>
<p>It is sad that our administration is supporting Zelaya in his attempt to subvert his country&#8217;s laws. At the same time they choose to support a president in Iran who is subverting his country&#8217;s election laws. </p>
<p>Goes to show you how much respect they have for constitutional law. </p>
<p>Again, the media ( except for the WSJ), has been woefully inadequate in providing the full story</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Obama admin meddles, demanding &#8220;full restoration of democratic order&#8221; in Honduras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Obama admin meddles, demanding &#8220;full restoration of democratic order&#8221; in Honduras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by the Obama admin is now in vogue when it supports extreme leftist leaders, as I  posted on Sunday. But the Obama admin is not confining themselves merely to &#8220;words&#8221;, but is evidently [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Erik R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best article on this event is at the WSJ:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124623220955866301.html#mod=article-outset-box

I know some press reports describe Zelaya supporters as breaking into a military base for the ballots.  Tht&#039;s not quite accurate as Zelaya himself led his followers to the Air Force base to get the ballots (printed in Venezuela btw).  

My point is that the Honduran military practiced a lot of restraint in the face of Zelaya&#039;s provocations.  Even in the aftermath, they are keenly aware of how it will play out if they get heavy handed with the protectors.

My sources tell me that the opposition party and members of Zelaya&#039;s party are staying cool and off the streets.  Their strategy is to let Zelaya&#039;s supporters express themselves and not allow a confrontation in the streets happen.  

Zelaya brought this on himself and I understand the accusation from the Attorney General about his mental fitness.  What the hell was he thinking!  My source next to the air base in Tegucigalpa that on Thursday night, the military was already deploying their forces.  He defied the military and his own government, he got what he deserved and is lucky to be alive.  IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best article on this event is at the WSJ:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124623220955866301.html#mod=article-outset-box" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124623220955866301.html#mod=article-outset-box</a></p>
<p>I know some press reports describe Zelaya supporters as breaking into a military base for the ballots.  Tht&#8217;s not quite accurate as Zelaya himself led his followers to the Air Force base to get the ballots (printed in Venezuela btw).  </p>
<p>My point is that the Honduran military practiced a lot of restraint in the face of Zelaya&#8217;s provocations.  Even in the aftermath, they are keenly aware of how it will play out if they get heavy handed with the protectors.</p>
<p>My sources tell me that the opposition party and members of Zelaya&#8217;s party are staying cool and off the streets.  Their strategy is to let Zelaya&#8217;s supporters express themselves and not allow a confrontation in the streets happen.  </p>
<p>Zelaya brought this on himself and I understand the accusation from the Attorney General about his mental fitness.  What the hell was he thinking!  My source next to the air base in Tegucigalpa that on Thursday night, the military was already deploying their forces.  He defied the military and his own government, he got what he deserved and is lucky to be alive.  IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What has happened in Honduras is very welcome news!. It is a political system that is leading to no where [...] The Honduras are less sophisticated and they took care of this individual, Zelaya, the latin way.&lt;/i&gt;

This is condescending and based on what I&#039;ve read simply wrong. The Honduran military didn&#039;t step in at the drop of a hat; they waited for the Supreme Court to rule against the president. And in fact it appears that the first act of naked aggression here was not by the military, but involved Zelaya&#039;s supporters breaking in to a military facility to grab some ballots that the military was holding. The deal is that Zelaya wanted a referendum held to extend his rule, but the Honduran constitution doesn&#039;t allow itself to be amended in this way (hence the military wasn&#039;t going to let Zelaya use the ballots he had printed up).
Further, the military didn&#039;t appoint some general to replace Zelaya - they put the head of Congress in charge, again consistent with their constitution. If the military there (like ours) takes an oath to uphold the constitution, I&#039;d say they discharged it perfectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What has happened in Honduras is very welcome news!. It is a political system that is leading to no where [...] The Honduras are less sophisticated and they took care of this individual, Zelaya, the latin way.</i></p>
<p>This is condescending and based on what I&#8217;ve read simply wrong. The Honduran military didn&#8217;t step in at the drop of a hat; they waited for the Supreme Court to rule against the president. And in fact it appears that the first act of naked aggression here was not by the military, but involved Zelaya&#8217;s supporters breaking in to a military facility to grab some ballots that the military was holding. The deal is that Zelaya wanted a referendum held to extend his rule, but the Honduran constitution doesn&#8217;t allow itself to be amended in this way (hence the military wasn&#8217;t going to let Zelaya use the ballots he had printed up).<br />
Further, the military didn&#8217;t appoint some general to replace Zelaya &#8211; they put the head of Congress in charge, again consistent with their constitution. If the military there (like ours) takes an oath to uphold the constitution, I&#8217;d say they discharged it perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: uri</title>
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		<dc:creator>uri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What has happened in Honduras is very welcome news!. It is a political system that is leading to no where. Chavez has been &quot;elected&quot; President of Venezuela for life  and the votes were manipulated, the same way that it was in Iran. 
People in Latin America has just started to enjoy free elections and how democracy works, so electing a president for life again is something that they do not like. Chavez gave the wrong example.
The Honduras are less sophisticated and they took care of this individual, Zelaya, the latin way. That is the way that this &#039;Barbudos&quot; understand the language of no. Now we need to focus on  Paraguay where people cannot wait to get rid of  this immoral ex-Bishop President who fathered 5 illegitimate children while he was a Bishop!. 
Argentina started to walk the walk as of yesterday, and Kichnerismo is no longer in control. Latin american voters are not as naive as people think and Americans need to look South to learn that government cannot be the answer to solve our problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has happened in Honduras is very welcome news!. It is a political system that is leading to no where. Chavez has been &#8220;elected&#8221; President of Venezuela for life  and the votes were manipulated, the same way that it was in Iran.<br />
People in Latin America has just started to enjoy free elections and how democracy works, so electing a president for life again is something that they do not like. Chavez gave the wrong example.<br />
The Honduras are less sophisticated and they took care of this individual, Zelaya, the latin way. That is the way that this &#8216;Barbudos&#8221; understand the language of no. Now we need to focus on  Paraguay where people cannot wait to get rid of  this immoral ex-Bishop President who fathered 5 illegitimate children while he was a Bishop!.<br />
Argentina started to walk the walk as of yesterday, and Kichnerismo is no longer in control. Latin american voters are not as naive as people think and Americans need to look South to learn that government cannot be the answer to solve our problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically per obama, democracy for Iran and Honduras? NO! Obama is anti-democracy...as we already have seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically per obama, democracy for Iran and Honduras? NO! Obama is anti-democracy&#8230;as we already have seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marxist supporting a Marxist...</description>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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 ytba said... 
BANANA REPUBLICS SHOW COMMON SENSE, WHILE THE &quot;LEADER&quot; OF THE FREE WORLD RUSHES TO SUPPORT THE WRONG SIDE.

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<p> ytba said&#8230;<br />
BANANA REPUBLICS SHOW COMMON SENSE, WHILE THE &#8220;LEADER&#8221; OF THE FREE WORLD RUSHES TO SUPPORT THE WRONG SIDE.</p>
<p>2:31 PM  6/28/09</p>
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