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ruaqtpi2
15 years ago
What’s with the “soul handshake”? Obama is meeting one of the more despised “leaders” of South America, yet this welcome reception says to the world “Hey, this guy is cool, just like me!”
He is unbelievably clueless and classless, and not deserving of representing the admiration of the world. I wonder how the oppressed Argentinians feel about this friendly connection? What about others around the world who seek democracy and freedom from oppression?
It’s maddening, really maddening. 2010 and 2012 cannot get here soon enough!
@ruaqtpi2: I’m surprised they didn’t do the fist bump thing or the secret commie handshake.
Of course Obama loves the guy. Chavez could have written the sermons Obama listened to in Rev. Wright’s church.
And they obviously read the same books:
Don’t forget Chavez is a man who wants America to fail!
“The United States empire is on its way down and it will be finished in the near future, inshallah,” Chavez told reporters, ending the statement with the Arabic phrase for “God willing.”
Two of the same kind.
Sad that people cannot see it.
We chinese have observed marxist dictators for decades and we know what they look and sound like.
Obama is trying his best to be one. He’s not there yet, but he is getting there.
Rodney
15 years ago
I have an idea. Why don’t you guys list five or ten reasons why Latin Americans shouldn’t be bitter towards America. In 2005 Chavez was named the second most admired Latin American leader behind Castro by Latin Americans. Why? Because beating up the US is a popularity issue in Latin America today. The more we whine and moan about Chavez, the more popular he gets.
It’s called envy. Do you understand how that works? People who produce, have. People who don’t, want. When the people who don’t produce become the majority, and outnumber the people who do produce, they use the law to loot the wealth of the minority. That is how socialism and communism fester, and it is how fascism realized power in Nazi Germany. The ultimate result, of course, is that no one produces anything anymore and the economy fails. Read some Ayn Rand, maybe you’ll learn something.
The more we whine and moan about Chavez, the more popular he gets.
No, he is recognized by most in the US for what he is, evil. If that’s what some of the people in South America want in their leaders the responsibility for their fate falls on them, not anything we say about Chavez.
So Obama bows to the King of Saudi Arabia (some might say the President was teabagged by King Abdullah, but I digress) and now gives a warm handshake and quasi hug/embrace to a marxist dictator trying to overthrown the democratically elected government of another US ally, Columbia.
Obama now feels safe enough to take off his pretend centrism and go full throttle towards his better red than dead governance.
Steve Rowland
15 years ago
There’s that finger pull again…….
Missy: He gets more popular in Latin America, that is……
Now Hugo, about this “president for life” thing. Ya think I got a chance back home? I mean, yeah, I own the media, but that army stuff….that’s gonna be a bitch. Most of em didn’t vote for me, ya know. You think I can get away with just killing them??
Missy
15 years ago
Lost art of gifting. Chavez gives Obama a book, Gordon Brown snickers:
The 1971 book documents how European and American commercial interests have dominated and afflicted Latin America since the Spanish conquest, and it’s a favorite among left-leaning Latin Americans from Argentina to Mexico.
“He believes the book tells the truth, and he wants to give Obama the truth,” said Michael Shifter, a Latin America analyst at the Inter-American Dialogue group think tank in Washington.
Since Obama likes videos maybe a Latin American adaptation of Psycho would have been nice, or a boxed set of Chavez news clips, same thing.
Missy
15 years ago
I got spammed.
ruaqtpi2
15 years ago
Oops, I meant Venezuela; I’m obviously not a geography whiz, but I digress.
@Rodney,
Where did you find a scientifically vaild poll showing that Latin Americans love Chavez? How about his countrymen? Do you believe the people of Venezuela freely chose Chavez based on unbiased reports of how the country is performing under his rule?
I have cousins who have family connections in Central and South America, and they tell me that Chavez and his “associates” are feared – not loved. A fearful people are not a free people, and I question the veracity of Chavez’s government-owned media (a little more than I question the veracity of the United States leftist media.) Each seems pathologically incapable of objectivity.
@ruaqtpi2: Let’s just be honest about this: Many on the left simply DO NOT CARE if Chavez or Castro abuse their own people. They don’t care if press freedoms are destroyed or if courts and election boards are packed with pro-Chavez supporters or that state run companies routinely fire those who speak up against the regime.
They don’t care because they are doing the same thing here. If you need proof, just go to Minnesota where the votes for Franken are being counted by a different standard than the votes for Coleman. In Minnesota where George Soros bought and paid for the Secretary of State who is overseeing those elections.
The left in this country have long accused US of being fascists because that’s exactly what THEY ARE. So of course they aren’t at all bothered by Chavez. They want to emulate him.
These two jerks are alike in many ways lets start with the hair and the complexion, not too important now on to more serious things. Both are want-a-bee dictators, both are attempting to stiffle opposition, both oppose off-shore drilling for the United States, both favor stronger relations with Cuba, both favor more government controls on means of production and distribution, both want to control the airways,and both view the United States as being responsible for most of the worlds problems. Wish should just switch, but Chavez doesn’t speak english and would have to have an intrepeter guess that would work since Obama can’t speak with his TOTUS. Yes an exchange would work quite well.
mooseburger
14 years ago
Yeah, Obama is sucking up to bad people, OK. Republicans would NEVER do that…..
@mooseburger: ODD that you would bring that up Mossy. Forget that it happened 25 years ago when Saddam wasn’t our enemy.
Forget that it was just Rumsfeld and not a President.
But remember all the lefty rage about that handshake from all those years ago by a low level official (at the time) of the U.S. Government.
Now, we have a PRESIDENT, shaking hands with a man who says he wants to see the end of the United States as we know it and from lefties like you we don’t hear a PEEP!
These two goons are leftist wanna-be-dictators. Not a dimes worth of difference between the two, only thing I see is that one doesn’t speak english and the other doesn’t speak spanish. Personally I prefer Chavez—at least he tells the truth about where he is coming from.
mooseburger
14 years ago
Mike: True enough that it is a lower official VS the President.
Point is, as long as it’s a tyrant dictator that serves our interests, we kind of turn our back on the bad stuff they do as a matter of US policy.
Saddam served our interests against Iran at the time Rummy got the handshake, but he was still the same brutal thug then as he was when we went to war against him.
Gaddafi has gotten back into better graces with the US. Who knows down the road where we will end up with Chavez, even though we don’t like him at this point in time?
I don’t think I’m practicing hypocrisy, the long view of history indicates that we may indeed decide he ((Chavez) is the best thing since sliced bread if he becomes useful to the US interests. We have certainly done that before.
What’s with the “soul handshake”? Obama is meeting one of the more despised “leaders” of South America, yet this welcome reception says to the world “Hey, this guy is cool, just like me!”
He is unbelievably clueless and classless, and not deserving of representing the admiration of the world. I wonder how the oppressed Argentinians feel about this friendly connection? What about others around the world who seek democracy and freedom from oppression?
It’s maddening, really maddening. 2010 and 2012 cannot get here soon enough!
Jeff V
@ruaqtpi2: I’m surprised they didn’t do the fist bump thing or the secret commie handshake.
Of course Obama loves the guy. Chavez could have written the sermons Obama listened to in Rev. Wright’s church.
And they obviously read the same books:
Don’t forget Chavez is a man who wants America to fail!
“The United States empire is on its way down and it will be finished in the near future, inshallah,” Chavez told reporters, ending the statement with the Arabic phrase for “God willing.”
Two of the same kind.
Sad that people cannot see it.
We chinese have observed marxist dictators for decades and we know what they look and sound like.
Obama is trying his best to be one. He’s not there yet, but he is getting there.
I have an idea. Why don’t you guys list five or ten reasons why Latin Americans shouldn’t be bitter towards America. In 2005 Chavez was named the second most admired Latin American leader behind Castro by Latin Americans. Why? Because beating up the US is a popularity issue in Latin America today. The more we whine and moan about Chavez, the more popular he gets.
@Rodney
It’s called envy. Do you understand how that works? People who produce, have. People who don’t, want. When the people who don’t produce become the majority, and outnumber the people who do produce, they use the law to loot the wealth of the minority. That is how socialism and communism fester, and it is how fascism realized power in Nazi Germany. The ultimate result, of course, is that no one produces anything anymore and the economy fails. Read some Ayn Rand, maybe you’ll learn something.
@Rodney:
No, he is recognized by most in the US for what he is, evil. If that’s what some of the people in South America want in their leaders the responsibility for their fate falls on them, not anything we say about Chavez.
Obama plays the fool quite well.
So Obama bows to the King of Saudi Arabia (some might say the President was teabagged by King Abdullah, but I digress) and now gives a warm handshake and quasi hug/embrace to a marxist dictator trying to overthrown the democratically elected government of another US ally, Columbia.
Obama now feels safe enough to take off his pretend centrism and go full throttle towards his better red than dead governance.
There’s that finger pull again…….
Missy: He gets more popular in Latin America, that is……
Barry is SUCH a disgrace.
He has yet to meet a Terrorist he doesn’t like.
Now Hugo, about this “president for life” thing. Ya think I got a chance back home? I mean, yeah, I own the media, but that army stuff….that’s gonna be a bitch. Most of em didn’t vote for me, ya know. You think I can get away with just killing them??
Lost art of gifting. Chavez gives Obama a book, Gordon Brown snickers:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gX-4_ui8Q2B-elFX5A6fpoYLCJsgD97L3O6G4
Since Obama likes videos maybe a Latin American adaptation of Psycho would have been nice, or a boxed set of Chavez news clips, same thing.
I got spammed.
Oops, I meant Venezuela; I’m obviously not a geography whiz, but I digress.
@Rodney,
Where did you find a scientifically vaild poll showing that Latin Americans love Chavez? How about his countrymen? Do you believe the people of Venezuela freely chose Chavez based on unbiased reports of how the country is performing under his rule?
I have cousins who have family connections in Central and South America, and they tell me that Chavez and his “associates” are feared – not loved. A fearful people are not a free people, and I question the veracity of Chavez’s government-owned media (a little more than I question the veracity of the United States leftist media.) Each seems pathologically incapable of objectivity.
Jeff V
@ruaqtpi2: Let’s just be honest about this: Many on the left simply DO NOT CARE if Chavez or Castro abuse their own people. They don’t care if press freedoms are destroyed or if courts and election boards are packed with pro-Chavez supporters or that state run companies routinely fire those who speak up against the regime.
They don’t care because they are doing the same thing here. If you need proof, just go to Minnesota where the votes for Franken are being counted by a different standard than the votes for Coleman. In Minnesota where George Soros bought and paid for the Secretary of State who is overseeing those elections.
The left in this country have long accused US of being fascists because that’s exactly what THEY ARE. So of course they aren’t at all bothered by Chavez. They want to emulate him.
These two jerks are alike in many ways lets start with the hair and the complexion, not too important now on to more serious things. Both are want-a-bee dictators, both are attempting to stiffle opposition, both oppose off-shore drilling for the United States, both favor stronger relations with Cuba, both favor more government controls on means of production and distribution, both want to control the airways,and both view the United States as being responsible for most of the worlds problems. Wish should just switch, but Chavez doesn’t speak english and would have to have an intrepeter guess that would work since Obama can’t speak with his TOTUS. Yes an exchange would work quite well.
Yeah, Obama is sucking up to bad people, OK. Republicans would NEVER do that…..
@mooseburger: ODD that you would bring that up Mossy. Forget that it happened 25 years ago when Saddam wasn’t our enemy.
Forget that it was just Rumsfeld and not a President.
But remember all the lefty rage about that handshake from all those years ago by a low level official (at the time) of the U.S. Government.
Now, we have a PRESIDENT, shaking hands with a man who says he wants to see the end of the United States as we know it and from lefties like you we don’t hear a PEEP!
Seems to me you folks have a hypocrisy problem.
@Mike’s America:
Mike, you’re correct.
Many on the left truly do not care about what Castro and Chavez are all about. They don’t want to know what goes on behind the curtain.
In fact, through willful ignorance, the left has elevated Che Guevera into a cultural icon.
These two goons are leftist wanna-be-dictators. Not a dimes worth of difference between the two, only thing I see is that one doesn’t speak english and the other doesn’t speak spanish. Personally I prefer Chavez—at least he tells the truth about where he is coming from.
Mike: True enough that it is a lower official VS the President.
Point is, as long as it’s a tyrant dictator that serves our interests, we kind of turn our back on the bad stuff they do as a matter of US policy.
Saddam served our interests against Iran at the time Rummy got the handshake, but he was still the same brutal thug then as he was when we went to war against him.
Gaddafi has gotten back into better graces with the US. Who knows down the road where we will end up with Chavez, even though we don’t like him at this point in time?
I don’t think I’m practicing hypocrisy, the long view of history indicates that we may indeed decide he ((Chavez) is the best thing since sliced bread if he becomes useful to the US interests. We have certainly done that before.
@mooseburger: Just admit that your comparison is absurd.
By the way… which of your lefty love sites posted that walk down memory lane?
By the way… which of your lefty love sites posted that walk down memory lane?
None that I know of.
They don’t seem as fixated on stuff like this as you, Alex Jones, and a few others do
So you came up with that lame absurdity all on your own? Good for you!