When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account.
DisagreeAgree
Connect with
I allow to create an account
When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account.
Another one or two years and “police state” here we come.
My prediction is that your teaparty protests, as they grow bigger, will see a crackdown by those loyal to dear overlord Obama.
First the media ridicules them, then when it does not work, legal action will be used to discourage them, then finally force.
The mainstream media wouldn’t do it. So we are trying to get your important messages to the American people. This post is a suggested read at, http://aresay.blogspot.com/ 6
ThomNJ
15 years ago
Yep – that is how it starts. The security guys do not or will not recognize the absurdity of what they are told to do and have no guts to say “no, I won’t do that” – and yes, I know they risk their jobs and all that, but the erosion starts with garbage like this, and as you so correclty point out, it is indeed one-sided. Think of the Columbia University speeches shouted down by liberals who have the temerity to shout that it is in the name of free speech. If those who are in a position to do the right thing refuse or fail to act uniformly for each side of a debate, then it is going to be a rapid fall to the bottom.
Steve Rowland
15 years ago
It’s coming folks. You heard it on Flopping Aces.
Tom
15 years ago
Wow, and you morons act as if Fox News doesn’t exist.
@Tom: I’m wondering the same thing that Aye is. Your comment just seems silly. And it’s way too early to be drinking. Are you that senseless ALL the time?
John ryan
15 years ago
It is sooo sad when conservatives are the victims of property tights. It just seems like everyday we hear another story about the victimization of conservatives.
Bill
15 years ago
I love your blog, but….
PLEASE don’t adopt the techniques of the dirtbag Left. Much as I admire Ziegler, he *was* trespassing, and that’s what he was arrested for. Call it civil disobedience. This piece uncomfortably resembles what one would expect from Kos: “Heroic Code Pink Activists’ Free Speech Silenced by RNC Nazi Police.”
Apparently the left is the only side entitled to demand their constitutional rights. Our side should just shut up and take it? How’s that been working out for us?
Only George Patton's Grandkid
15 years ago
Yes John Ryan and this is all about to come to an end.
Sigmund, about your post: Another one or two years and “police state” here we come.
When and if this gets to the point of use of force? It will be eyes, hair and teeth. California will be a battle zone, law enforcement will separate into two camps, military will separate into two camps and in my experience those who need the use of a sidearm in their daily jobs tend to be a bit more conservative by factors of 10 evidenced by Napolitano’s DHS report. Napolitano knows very well this could happen and in all likelihood, if they continue with this BS? Game on….
Sociologically speaking, if we the people of California or any State begin to see our first amendment rights being trampled via force, the US would cease to exist as we know it and the lone liberal will feel like a JStreet Jew during the Warsaw roundup. Other than their mouths and fingers…..really have no clue what this dynamic holds for them. Sure you have a few men in the apposing party like Sgt. Stolz but really nothing more threatening than a corps of Barney Frank’s.
I’m really not worried as we will feel some relief in 2010 and then again big relief in 2012.
Europe is now beginning to see through Obama like a sandwich baggy as he came back from G-20 achieving absolutely nothing and pissing off the Europeans with his arrogance coupled with his naivety and inexperience simultaneously.
We shall see but be prepared for anything. We are going to contact Mr. Zeigler and we are going to provide him a legal and personal protection team.
And to the honorable Ms. Napolitano, I’m a father of 4, Grandfather of 6 and employer of 1700. I am the first generation in my family of five generations that didn’t have to participate in any war to protect our freedoms as of YET…or I just could be the most important one of them all…
luva the scissors
15 years ago
been showing this at work to everyone, we are all scared. we know it is only a matter of time before we are living in a police state like cuba or the old soviet union. i heard a stat that gun sales in some states have risen more than 173%, makes you very worried.
Hard Right
15 years ago
Boy, the lefturds sure are cranky lately. I guess people waking up to their agenda upsets them.
IF he was on public property, than he was wronged. If it is private,
then of course they had a right to do what they did.
pdill
15 years ago
Aye that footage looks like USC to me, not UCLA. Feel free to correct me, but I wasn’t aware that USC took federal monies, which if true, would make Zeigler on private property.
Consequently, and as much as I hate to admit it, Zeigler would NOT have had a “right” to be there, unless via media obtained.
Regardless, it’s still a great preview of “what’s to come”, especially since half of the country (self included) have been made “enemies of the state” by JN this week.
Bill
15 years ago
Aye Chihuahua:
Nope: it was USC, not UCLA. USC is a *private* college.
luva the scissors
15 years ago
it just shows the beginning of the end of free speech in this nation. oh, i’m sorry, how foolish of me i had forgotten that the left are the only ones that are allowed free speech. our founding fathers would be rolling in their graves if they knew what was really going on and how their intentions had been twisted.
trizzlor
15 years ago
@Aye Chihuahua: Aside from the fact that this wasn’t even a public university, your train of thought is moronic – public colleges have the right to bar non-students from participating in campus activities or attending campus events. Much in the same way that you can’t barge into any room of a high-school, microphone in hand, and start demanding answers. What next, public universities need to keep their chemistry labs free and open 24 hours a day for public access?
Ziegler was being disruptive at the event – in fact his very purpose there was to interrupt an event to which he had not been invited. Next week I’d like to see him burst in on a deliberating jury at a (public) court-house and interview them too.
Frankly, this looks like some gas-bag demagogue trying to make a scene to gin up some publicity for his movie, and then playing the victim of a fascist state after he is repeatedly told to leave by security. I don’t much care what his politics are, he’s a moron and he’s giving a bad name to whatever cause he purports to represent.
@trizzlor: You seem to have a pretty low threshold for “disruption.” Ziegler was NOT inside the hall where the event was taking place. He was on a sidewalk outside. He was not preventing people from entering. He was one man asking questions. People could refuse to answer his questions and proceed inside.
As Curt points out the left has a clear double standard where free speech is involved. They feel empowered to take any action, even shutting down the speech of others and regard their action as a right.
Ziegler never sought to deprive others of their rights.
But we will keep your definition in mind next time some lefty starts a “disruption” and wait to hear you condemn it.
trizzlor
15 years ago
@Mike’s America: As a representative of the media, Ziegler was allowed access to a specific area – a regulation which he repeatedly disobeyed. Yes, I would call breaking the regulations of an event “disturbing” it.
But we will keep your definition in mind next time some lefty starts a “disruption” and wait to hear you condemn it.
Personally, I think that accosting someone as they’re entering an event or storming the stage of a debate, is ineffective and generally just bullying for it’s own sake. I think it’s silly to require someone to condemn every act that is done in their name, but you certainly won’t find me supporting those tactics. Obviously this is different in your case: we’ve had “free speech zones” since before Bush, is it just coincidence that only now do you complain about a fascist state?
@trizzlor: Would you like to show me who was “accosted” here?
Are you on record as registering similar concern about Code Pink or any of the other circus freaks of the left who feel their rights trump ours? If so, please point me to the link where you have expressed that view.
Another one or two years and “police state” here we come.
My prediction is that your teaparty protests, as they grow bigger, will see a crackdown by those loyal to dear overlord Obama.
First the media ridicules them, then when it does not work, legal action will be used to discourage them, then finally force.
The mainstream media wouldn’t do it. So we are trying to get your important messages to the American people. This post is a suggested read at, http://aresay.blogspot.com/ 6
Yep – that is how it starts. The security guys do not or will not recognize the absurdity of what they are told to do and have no guts to say “no, I won’t do that” – and yes, I know they risk their jobs and all that, but the erosion starts with garbage like this, and as you so correclty point out, it is indeed one-sided. Think of the Columbia University speeches shouted down by liberals who have the temerity to shout that it is in the name of free speech. If those who are in a position to do the right thing refuse or fail to act uniformly for each side of a debate, then it is going to be a rapid fall to the bottom.
It’s coming folks. You heard it on Flopping Aces.
Wow, and you morons act as if Fox News doesn’t exist.
@Tom:
What, precisely, does Fox News have to do with this discussion?
Why are you acting as if the First Amendment doesn’t exist?
@Tom: I’m wondering the same thing that Aye is. Your comment just seems silly. And it’s way too early to be drinking. Are you that senseless ALL the time?
It is sooo sad when conservatives are the victims of property tights. It just seems like everyday we hear another story about the victimization of conservatives.
I love your blog, but….
PLEASE don’t adopt the techniques of the dirtbag Left. Much as I admire Ziegler, he *was* trespassing, and that’s what he was arrested for. Call it civil disobedience. This piece uncomfortably resembles what one would expect from Kos: “Heroic Code Pink Activists’ Free Speech Silenced by RNC Nazi Police.”
Let me understand this now.
Ziegler was on the campus of the University of California.
The University of California is funded, at least in part, by the taxpayers of the state of CA and the US.
The University of California, by virtue of being funded by the taxpayer, is a public institution.
Thus the property is public.
Ziegler was NOT being disruptive to the event and was exercising his rights under the First Amendment.
Good try, but your meme is broken.
@Bill:
Apparently the left is the only side entitled to demand their constitutional rights. Our side should just shut up and take it? How’s that been working out for us?
Yes John Ryan and this is all about to come to an end.
Sigmund, about your post: Another one or two years and “police state” here we come.
When and if this gets to the point of use of force? It will be eyes, hair and teeth. California will be a battle zone, law enforcement will separate into two camps, military will separate into two camps and in my experience those who need the use of a sidearm in their daily jobs tend to be a bit more conservative by factors of 10 evidenced by Napolitano’s DHS report. Napolitano knows very well this could happen and in all likelihood, if they continue with this BS? Game on….
Sociologically speaking, if we the people of California or any State begin to see our first amendment rights being trampled via force, the US would cease to exist as we know it and the lone liberal will feel like a JStreet Jew during the Warsaw roundup. Other than their mouths and fingers…..really have no clue what this dynamic holds for them. Sure you have a few men in the apposing party like Sgt. Stolz but really nothing more threatening than a corps of Barney Frank’s.
I’m really not worried as we will feel some relief in 2010 and then again big relief in 2012.
Europe is now beginning to see through Obama like a sandwich baggy as he came back from G-20 achieving absolutely nothing and pissing off the Europeans with his arrogance coupled with his naivety and inexperience simultaneously.
We shall see but be prepared for anything. We are going to contact Mr. Zeigler and we are going to provide him a legal and personal protection team.
And to the honorable Ms. Napolitano, I’m a father of 4, Grandfather of 6 and employer of 1700. I am the first generation in my family of five generations that didn’t have to participate in any war to protect our freedoms as of YET…or I just could be the most important one of them all…
been showing this at work to everyone, we are all scared. we know it is only a matter of time before we are living in a police state like cuba or the old soviet union. i heard a stat that gun sales in some states have risen more than 173%, makes you very worried.
Boy, the lefturds sure are cranky lately. I guess people waking up to their agenda upsets them.
IF he was on public property, than he was wronged. If it is private,
then of course they had a right to do what they did.
Aye that footage looks like USC to me, not UCLA. Feel free to correct me, but I wasn’t aware that USC took federal monies, which if true, would make Zeigler on private property.
Consequently, and as much as I hate to admit it, Zeigler would NOT have had a “right” to be there, unless via media obtained.
Regardless, it’s still a great preview of “what’s to come”, especially since half of the country (self included) have been made “enemies of the state” by JN this week.
Aye Chihuahua:
Nope: it was USC, not UCLA. USC is a *private* college.
it just shows the beginning of the end of free speech in this nation. oh, i’m sorry, how foolish of me i had forgotten that the left are the only ones that are allowed free speech. our founding fathers would be rolling in their graves if they knew what was really going on and how their intentions had been twisted.
@Aye Chihuahua: Aside from the fact that this wasn’t even a public university, your train of thought is moronic – public colleges have the right to bar non-students from participating in campus activities or attending campus events. Much in the same way that you can’t barge into any room of a high-school, microphone in hand, and start demanding answers. What next, public universities need to keep their chemistry labs free and open 24 hours a day for public access?
Ziegler was being disruptive at the event – in fact his very purpose there was to interrupt an event to which he had not been invited. Next week I’d like to see him burst in on a deliberating jury at a (public) court-house and interview them too.
Frankly, this looks like some gas-bag demagogue trying to make a scene to gin up some publicity for his movie, and then playing the victim of a fascist state after he is repeatedly told to leave by security. I don’t much care what his politics are, he’s a moron and he’s giving a bad name to whatever cause he purports to represent.
Too bad being disruptive is only a bad thing when it’s a conservative doing it
@trizzlor: You seem to have a pretty low threshold for “disruption.” Ziegler was NOT inside the hall where the event was taking place. He was on a sidewalk outside. He was not preventing people from entering. He was one man asking questions. People could refuse to answer his questions and proceed inside.
As Curt points out the left has a clear double standard where free speech is involved. They feel empowered to take any action, even shutting down the speech of others and regard their action as a right.
Ziegler never sought to deprive others of their rights.
But we will keep your definition in mind next time some lefty starts a “disruption” and wait to hear you condemn it.
@Mike’s America: As a representative of the media, Ziegler was allowed access to a specific area – a regulation which he repeatedly disobeyed. Yes, I would call breaking the regulations of an event “disturbing” it.
Personally, I think that accosting someone as they’re entering an event or storming the stage of a debate, is ineffective and generally just bullying for it’s own sake. I think it’s silly to require someone to condemn every act that is done in their name, but you certainly won’t find me supporting those tactics. Obviously this is different in your case: we’ve had “free speech zones” since before Bush, is it just coincidence that only now do you complain about a fascist state?
@trizzlor: Would you like to show me who was “accosted” here?
Are you on record as registering similar concern about Code Pink or any of the other circus freaks of the left who feel their rights trump ours? If so, please point me to the link where you have expressed that view.