“We can all guess how he got in and who paid for it [O'Bunko's Harvard degree]“

I assume you refer to this?
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2008/08/obamas-saudi-connection.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2113237/posts

The Saudis own him.

Why can’t we let the kids enjoy a little bit of childhood and bonding years with parents before shoving them into the damn education mills? At what point does the government make themselves the Supreme Guardian over raising Children, and take the responsibility and right to raise your children totally away from you?

Great post Ditto. The answer is…..whenever we completely destroy the family, the basic unit of civilization.

That’s the real agenda behind “feminism” (which is why Sarah Palin, a REAL feminist, was such a threat and HAD to be destroyed). You can be pretty much be assured that most of the “left” agendas, from “political correctness” , day care, “education”, religious intolerance, to gay rights including gay marriage, are all intended to weaken and eventually destroy the family. When the family goes, so does civilized society.

Yonoson (#22), also makes excellent points.

As for you Larry:

I utterly disagree with the sentiments expressed by PDill (#18). Obama knows that, if he fails, he’ll set back the goal of full African-American integration into the highest levels of government and business for a generation. There is nothing in his career which indicates that he has had personal riches as a life’s goal. He could have made a fortune, taking a job with a major law firm coming out of Harvard. Instead, he went back the South Side of Chicago and worked as a community organizer. To say that he doesn’t care about his political legacy and that he’s willing to give birth to a catastrophe and then be content getting out of town and getting rich is entirely without foundation, regarding what he’s done with his carefully-planned life to this point

I will only “slightly” concede that my intention wasn’t to imply that Obama went into to politics to “get rich” only that he has already accomplished it as well as the means to stay rich. Remember, he didn’t go to Harvard Law until AFTER he was a “community organizer”, the crux of his education. We can all guess how he got in and who paid for it, admitting that only a few will ever know the real story behind it. If he did get in by his own means, there is certainly little to show for it.

I will agree that he’s had a more than “carefully-planned” life, right up to Michelle’s $317,000 job that created the patient- dumpingUrban Health Initiative.

Meanwhile, the program’s parents, Michelle Obama and David Axelrod, have moved to Washington. As the First Lady and the President’s closest advisor, they wield enormous power. Indeed, they may be the most powerful people in the Obama Administration, aside from the President himself. If these two characters were willing to betray their Chicago neighbors — the South Side’s most vulnerable citizens — with a disgraceful program like the Urban Health Initiative, what sort of mischief will they devise for the hapless denizens of flyover country?

On the other hand, if you are trying to convince me that anything Obama did in the South Side of Chicago was altruistic, I’m all ears. I see nothing but prep for the ultimate power grab. As for his political legacy, I suspect you still cannot see through his narcissism. Perhaps this will be of help.

Many politicians are egomaniacs from Nixon to Clinton. Samuel Vaknin, Ph.D., and a known expert on pathology and narcissism writes:

“David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao, Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler; They created a personality cult around themselves and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirers, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, invariably they brought them to their doom. When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don’t know it until it is too late.”

As for the African-American legacy in government, if or until, you understand that someone with the narcissism of Obama couldn’t possibly care about such things, you will, I suspect, continue to believe what the rest of us would love to believe albeit are contridicted by his actions.

When Obama speaks out against black genocide in and or strongly supports school vouchers for inner city kids, then maybe I will begin to believe that he has even the least amount of interest in the enhancement of his own race.

Sure some parents want to shirk responsibility over bringing up their children, and utilize the “free daycare” that lower education provides, but that doesn’t mean all parents do. Why can’t we let the kids enjoy a little bit of childhood and bonding years with parents before shoving them into the damn education mills? At what point does the government make themselves the Supreme Guardian over raising Children, and take the responsibility and right to raise your children totally away from you?

RIGHT! …and pretty much the same with all the others. Just listing problems doesn’t solve them, especially when nothing different from what caused the problems in the first place is being done. On the bright side, we can still sort of recognize what some of the problems are. When we can’t, we’ll know we are in trouble. (like thinking coal, oil and gas are bad, and fantasy green is good, for example).

John Stossel is great!

THIRD PARENT: Why are we going to let the system that’s already failed our children, educationally in this country, K through 12, why are we going to let them start with our 4-year-olds?
STOSSEL: Good question.Tuesday, even the President admitted-
PRESIDENT OBAMA: We let our grades slip, our schools crumble, our teacher quality fall short, and other nations outpace us.
LEVY: Government is providing K through 12 education. And unfortunately, we are in the toilet.
STOSSEL: That’s point two. Government-run education isn’t doing very well.
LEVY: To say that they are the ones to define what quality is laughable. [Clip of Levy with kids on playground] What are you having for lunch?
STOSSEL: Nia Levy’s not only a parent. She runs six preschools. [to Levy] I’m surprised you’re against this. You would make money on this. Free government money.
LEVY: I don’t want to have to answer to the government. Our programs are so far superior, that it isn’t even funny. Now, with the economy, being what it is, you’re telling me that we’re going to devote billions of dollars that we don’t have? It’s a waste of money.
CUOMO: A lot of passion there.
STOSSEL: I agree with her. It’s a waste of money and a government conceit that they can parent better than we can.
CUOMO: So, it comes down to how do you spend that money best, to help the kids, give them the best head start?
STOSSEL: Right.

Education reform is an investment.
…and more of the same Leftist policies that screwed up education in the first place will accelerate the deterioration. Paying teachers more, and neglecting what students learn, is not gonna help.

I’d like to know from Larry how implementing universal pre-K is considered “reform we can believe in”. How is fingerpainting and what amounts to universal daycare for other people’s children “an investment” we can or should afford?

Just a couple of points.

Green energy is an investment.
…and a bad one. There is no “Green energy,” except perhaps for solar in the west where the sun shines all day every day. Starving ourselves for energy by restricting what we have now is no way to develop what we don’t have, especially when we need energy to explore for whatever might be there.

Education reform is an investment.
…and more of the same Leftist policies that screwed up education in the first place will accelerate the deterioration. Paying teachers more, and neglecting what students learn, is not gonna help.

And infrastructure is surely an investment.
…or so it might seem, but everywhere I’ve been, I haven’t seen any gross neglect that needs attention. Perhaps there is, but I would like to see the documentation.

All of these have been put off for way too long.
…and better to put off a little longer till someone who knows what they are doing is in charge.

Past energy policy has been a failure.
…and it is/was one designed by, and in keeping with the current Democrat agenda.

Past education policy has been a failure.
…as will the “change” we will see approved by those who gave us the past failure.

Infrastructure neglect has been very harmful.
…and again I would like to see the evidence, as it’s not obvious to me anywhere I’ve been that this is the case. It could be, but I haven’t seen it.

The health care system is broken.
…because of skyrocketing costs due in large part to the FOR PROFIT insurance middlemen and outlandish malpractice insurance rates caused by frivolous law suits and exorbitant cash settlements, things the Dems either won’t change, or will make worse.

And we are in a major recession.
…caused by Democrat policies which they now want to scale up.

Sorry, Larry, but your thesis just doesn’t hold water.

WANT TO KNOW WHERE O’BUNKO WANTS TO TAKE AMERICA?
Check it out…
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2009/03/post-apocalyptic-detroit-progressivism.html
“O is for Oz. Do you want to visit the wonderful far-off Land of Oz where the wizard lives and scarecrows can dance and the road is made of yellow bricks and everything is emerald green? Well, you can’t because there is no Land of Oz and there is to tin woodsman and THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS! Maybe someday you can go to Detroit. “ — Shel Silverstein

also see…
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/07/photo-gallery-results-of-obamas.html
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/07/let-me-put-it-in-pictures-for-our.html
“Now extend that kind of failure to the entire United States.”

Re #1 To be fair, the need for an oath of office “Do over” was not Obama’s fault.

Re #2. Let’s not forget that Bill Richards was not vetted by the Democrats party before or during the primaries. Granted all the problem’s with Obama’s other Nominees, the Dems only want to talk about vetting if Sara Palin’s name is included.

# 23. If this is going to be the modus operandus during his whole term, American’s and our Constitution are in a world of hurt. God knows what they and the MSM are going to try to sneak past us.

# 25 was that Vlad Putin or Vlad the Impaler?

# 30 Pure foolishness on the Obama Administration. What the hell did they think the Swiss Bankers would do? Roll over because Obama’s has people fawning over him? They’ve been in the business for over 300 years and don’t give a damn what a fledgling politician like Obama has to say about it. Arrogance and stupidity are poor bedfellows.

# 37 The Las Vegas economy took a hard hit and has been was down ever since 9/11. There was a slight rise in the middle of Bush’s presidency, (mostly on the back of a housing boom during this last decade as people poured in from California and other states,) but the Casino/Entertainment business started dipping down again soon after. Now the houses are over priced, foreclosures are rampant, and the water supply is dwindling. While Obama’s statement doesn’t help, It isn’t really fair to blame it on him.

# 38 Shades of Marie Antoinette.

* …43, …47, 49….. Hypocrisy is S.O.P with many Democrats

I utterly disagree with the sentiments expressed by PDill (#18). Obama knows that, if he fails, he’ll set back the goal of full African-American integration into the highest levels of government and business for a generation. There is nothing in his career which indicates that he has had personal riches as a life’s goal. He could have made a fortune, taking a job with a major law firm coming out of Harvard. Instead, he went back the South Side of Chicago and worked as a community organizer. To say that he doesn’t care about his political legacy and that he’s willing to give birth to a catastrophe and then be content getting out of town and getting rich is entirely without foundation, regarding what he’s done with his carefully-planned life to this point.

- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA

Hmmmm… Larry I have a question: Is it just the GOP that says he can’t do it all?

You might want to take a glance at my latest post on the subject.

Instead of blaming the GOP for being obstructionists you might need to consider that even Obama’s own supporters in the business and “news” media think his strategy is wrong.

I guess you are having a hard time kicking the hopey-changey Kool Aid habit.

Besides, much of his damage won’t even be noticable until the next 5 years, so he’d actually be smart not to be around longer than necessary.

Actually, I do wish more politicians would take the “one term approach”, albeit in the “other direction.”

You’ve obviously spent a considerable amount of time and/or brain power concerning Obama and his plan. I agree with most of your conclusions, but I’d like to debate a few fine points:

1) Keynesianism as a stimulus policy can work well, but as a long-term policy it lacks equilibrium for societies unable or unwilling to pay down debt. Actually, that’s an oversimplification; debt is not the problem per se, but the psycho-social penalty of staying “in hock” is what ultimately leads to its demise. Society sees debt as more than a financial burden. The fear of defaulting on a debt or not being able to service the debt adequately leads to paralysis. A nation/society without significant debt feels freer to take risks and to form bold new ideas for the future. The key to success in a Keynesian economy is the formation of export industry that competes internationally and has the elimination of Keynesianism as a clear, attainable goal. This is why a large nation cannot exist under a service economy; not enough real wealth is generated to pay off the Keynesian debt while imports greatly exceed exports.

2) We haven’t come close to paying off our WWII Keynesian debt. The New Deal Economy gains are illusory until that debt is paid, and we will not pay the debt off until we rebuild our manufacturing base (by renegotiating free trade agreements) or print funny money and force our creditors to “take it or leave it”. The ultimate indicator of debt/GDP turns us into indentured servants if we keep expanding debt without a serous committment to increasing GDP and minimizing our trade deficit. No matter how the economy goes, corruption and weath-grabbing will be the greatest impediment to growth and empowerment of the lower and middle classes The fight is going to be very nasty and difficult, but it must be fought if we ever wish to free ourselves from the rule of special interests over human liberties.

3) Obama and the Democratic Party have been successful at diverting attention through pitting far-right factions of the Republican party against more moderate conservatives, and the media have largely been complicit in the process. Obama’s stumbling gets very little attention, whereas the right wing politicians get laughed at and even scorned by the media at every opportunity (e.g., Bush II, and esp. Gerald Ford).

All in all, I think we agree as to Obama’s intentions. He’s definitely being bold, and for the sake of this country I hope he is not an abject failure.

One thing we certainly agree on: it will be an interesting 3-3/4 years.

Jeff V

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