NOTE: No teleprompters were used during the rally.
Another Saturday, another celebration of what is good about America in West Chester, Pa. It is mind boggling that some would consider this a ‘radical’ activity. Well, perhaps so, in the age of Obama.
Rich brought out his MOAF (Mother of All Flags). It is a replica of Civil War flag carried by a Pennsylvania regiment.
Post celebration photo op. A little disorganized, but it only brings out the character of this hearty bunch. It was good to be in West Chester today.
Join us! Every Saturday on the corner of High and Market Streets in West Chester, Pa.
We rally to celebrate America starting at 10:45 till Noon.
@Skye – I think it’s great that you are organising such campaigns – especially as most people are apathetic. However don’t you think some of the kids there look a bit young to be politicized? Do they know what they are campaigning for or against independently or are they just following without question what their parents believe?
I could say the same about the global warming indoctrination going on in schools in the UK and the USA. Our children remind me of my own childhood when I, along with my best friend, volunteered our help in numerous political campaigns in Philly. The father of my best friend at that time, was a Democrat Ward Leader.
This is the best, and unfortunately, the only way they will be exposed to a more measured look at issues ranging from politics to global warming. Also, they are quite helpful after the celebration in making sure the area is clean and tidy.
Your question is absurd to an unrecognizable degree. Perhaps, the daughters of Obama should live elsewhere than the White House, since there is no question they are being raised in a highly charged political environment. They are too young to be politicized as well, don’t you agree?
So, how many carbon credits have you purchased to offset your carbon emissions created by your post on FA?
I love the “Obama Lied, Economy Dies” sign.
P.S. Where is the full report from CPAC????
@Skye
What kids are taught at school is a valid point but another subject. I’m sure whatever kids are taught at school can be refuted by their parents when they get home, they can change school, do homeschooling if necessary. I’m sure it’s impossible to have any school curriculum where all parents are going to be happy. Do teachers only teach things which have no controversy attached (what would like leave in history for instance) or teachers teach kids every possible theory out there.
As for Obama kids – I don’t think that’s comparable to the same degree. Some jobs have the workplace and home combined. And where the parent is a public figure – they are going to on occasion have their family with them for support. However if Sasha and Malia start going to their father’s meeting/rallies and they personally hold up big posters with campaign slogans – like
‘Close Guantanamo’ or ‘Limbaugh doesn’t get it’ then I would think that is going to far and no doubt the Right would be appalled. Who knows – they might not even be into politics or might grow up Republicans.
I just think that parents giving their values to their kids is fine but its a fine line to cross when they start using them to publically epouse such values they probably haven’t fully worked out for themselves yet. Do they fully agree with or understand the comments that have been thrust in their hands to hold up? Can the understand the flip side as well before commiting to a certain view?
Whats your views on Palestinians using their kids to hold up placards denoucing Israel?
lol – And what’s carbon emissions got to do with this?
Re: GaffaUK
“What kids are taught at school is a valid point but another subject. I’m sure whatever kids are taught at school can be refuted by their parents when they get home, they can change school, do homeschooling if necessary.”
So then anything goes and others can teach your children anything they want? Any political or even extreme agenda if fine, so long as the parent knows that they are free to try to reprogram their kids later when they insist “But my teacher said ______!”? I guess you don’t really have a problem if children are taught about religion, abstinence, the right to life, etc..? Any kind of indoctrination is acceptable? You don’t even mind if Al Queda sympathizers or gang members were invited into the classroom to teach children what they know? It’s all ok with GaffaUK because hey, if you don’t like what your child was taught, you are free to pull them out of school, quite your job and try to do all the teaching yourself. (Even though you will not get a re-imbursement voucher, so it’s going to cost you even more.)
You DO understand historically how the children were indoctrinated by communist party teachers and Hitler youth programs? How fanatics have taught children how to become suicide bombers to serve jihad causes?
Are you really sure you’re fine with the politicizing and indoctrination of innocent children?
Proof positive that Skye’s little group is about advancing a partisan political agenda more than supporting out troops…
Piss poor attempt at a cheap shot, Fit. Any reason why the group cannot do both? It’s not like you have no “partisan political agenda”, ya know.
However I would dare say that da Sheepdogs see the conservative political agenda as an extension of supporting the troops. That you think differently is your right. We do still allow dissent in this country (for now…). However your snide comments do little but show how “intolerant” the liberal/progressives are … all while holding high the banner of “tolerance”, of course.
@Fit fit: You mean the two aren’t synonymous?! 😉
@GaffaUK:
Gaffa,
I agree with what you’re trying to point out; but do you not see a problem when teachers DON’T honestly present both sides, but push an agenda? Why are schools presenting only one side of a debate-not-over on the global warming issue? Or when they present “the other view”, it’s through a liberal’s interpretive lens? So “gay marriage” becomes the next civil rights struggle of our times and if you’re against federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, then you must be putting ideology over science.
While the anti-Obama sign show is true, they should not be part of a support the troops rally. That appears to be what the “other side” has been doing in West Chester for years.
Piss poor attempt at reason, Mata. Supporting the troops has nothing to do with the economy. There’s nothing intolerant about pointing that out either. I never said they had no right to support either view or both.
If I were holding a rally to support immigration reform, I wouldn’t want people showing up with pro choice banners.
My understanding was the West Chester rallies were to support the troops. That would also entail supporting friends of America (such as Israel) and opposing enemies of America (Iran, Jihadists, etc.) But it is a reach to say that would extend to protesting ‘The One’s’ economic program.
The other side held sway in West Chester for many years before Rich Davis showed up. They not only protested the war, but President Bush, the American free enterprise system, the life of the unborn, etc. Personally, I see no reason to dilute the pro-troops message by picking other fights.
Yes, I agree with the lady’s sign that BO is talking down the economy.
Isn’t it a Republican rally in all but name?
It is a celebration of America, Gaffa. Something you would not understand, just like you Global Warming ideations.
What is clear by the virtual absence of the Chester County Prison Movement since November, and by the words of their Dear Leader, Karen Porter, is the CCPM was nothing but a Democrat political front:
It is all about hatred and liberal Dem politics. Nothing at all to do with Peace.
The difference between the two groups is everything.
@Skype
Ah America….
What things do I like about America….
* Friendly people
* Opportunity
* Optimism
* Hollywood
* Fast Food
* Big cities with character
* Countryside and the size of the place
* The history (War of Independence, Civil war, WWII etc)
* English speaking with British roots
* Weather – at least in California/Florida
* Freedom of speech
* Mixture of cultures
* American TV (Sopranos/Lost/Frasier etc)
* American accents
* American clothes – jeans etc
* American music (Fleetwood Mac/Simon&Garfunkel/Tori Amos etc)
* Long road trips
* US humour (Bill Hicks, Emo Philips etc)
Hmmm – but because I’m a liberal then maybe I don’t get it.
Thanks for sharing your superficial appreciation of America, I expected no less from a liberal such as yourself.
so all that is superficial? Ah well – you reach out but all you get is a clenched fist.
GaffaUK,
Remember it’s the “libs” who are all angry and hate filled…
Gaffa and Fit,
You see a fist, I see a case of tough love. Liberals, like addicts, aren’t aware of the destruction caused by their actions. Pandering is soo liberal, Gaffa.
Reasonable, law-abiding, and peaceful people do not allow this behavior in their midst. I certainly will not tolerate liberals or their isms in my presence – online or offline.
As soon as individuals who consider themselves liberals shake off their dependency of racial discord, violence against those they differ politically (I know this first hand), xenophobia, blind hatred of freedom, and the preference of death over life in every circumstance. When libs do this, of course that includes making amends for the destruction and injustice they caused in the world, then former liberals can take their place in a just and peaceful society.
Until then, pond scum has more relevance and benefit to mankind then a liberal.
@Skye
If you treat a liberal as being responsible for all things that other liberals have done which you disagree with – then can I treat you being responsible for all the bad things that any conservative has done or said?
You are treating the world as if it is in two camps – Conservative or Liberal – as two tribes at war who all think the same within their own camp.
You know the world and individuals ar more complex than that.
I’m not dependent on racial discord, I don’t use violence or condone violence against others who have differeent views, I don’t think I’m particularly xenophobic, I don’t have a blind hatred of freedom and I don’t have a preference of death actually. lol
C’mon lighten up and tried seeing a spectrum of views and distinguish between political badges and people:)
Fit, there is only one sign in the pictures above that has to do with the economy. And it is being displayed by an adult. So frankly, I don’t see where you get your comment about troops and agenda being solely devoted to differences in the economic political agenda.
However, on that note – (and this goes for you too, Emmanuel #11) –
I tend to think the economy has much to do with the troops. i.e. military budgets for advanced technology, replacing worn equipment, etal. Per the SOFA, Iraq can.. in the middle of the Bush/Iraq agreed to withdrawal… request for re’escalation if they get into trouble. The US needs to honor that request per the agreement. Or else Obama must give them one year’s notice to terminate the SOFA.
This means that while Obama is escalating Afghanistan… on the budget anticipation Iraq will not need a new surge for add’l security… all is going to be accomplished on his proposed military budget cuts. ooookay….
Quite frankly, math is not Obama’s forte. His projected revenue is based on unreal economic projections, and his estimated costs are deliberately low. This means that the gap will ever widen with reality. And one of the worst manifestations for the troops would be a resurge in violence in Iraq, combined with Obama’s Afghanistan surge.
Will the government, which can’t seem to adequately handle govt run VA health care, be able to throw in civilian health care without the VA suffering further with budget? Another economy/troops issue.
Then, of course, there is a veteran’s home that is in just as much danger as others… another economy issue. Altho any veteran facing difficulties should make his/her first call to the VA INRE transfers and hardships.
Veterans are also citizens, and Obama’s approach to the economy is just as important to troops as it is to a civilian. As I said, I can see a conservative agenda being synonymous with troop support.
Gaffa, mind if I do a bit of friendly editing on your “list”?? LOL
* Friendly people… check
* Opportunity… under assault… unless you qualify for affirmative action, that is
*
Optimismnot with daily doom n gloom from the delegator in chief* Hollywood
* Fast Food… under assault
* Big cities with character
* Countryside and the size of the place
* The history (War of Independence, Civil war, WWII etc)
* English speaking with British roots
* Weather – at least in California/Florida
* Freedom of speech…. under assault from stealth legislation
* Mixture of cultures
* American TV (Sopranos/Lost/Frasier etc)
* American accents… we have “accents”??? LOL yeah, I know. Demographic speak is vast
*
AmericanChinese/Taiwan clothes – jeans etc* American music (Fleetwood Mac/Simon&Garfunkel/Tori Amos etc)
* Long road trips… under assault when you may be forced into an electric car…
* US humour (Bill Hicks, Emo Philips etc)
The ever insightful Mata has pointed out a huge problem facing Veterans in the age of Obama:
Jonn at This Ain’t Hell spells out the gory details:
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=8595
I do believe some pertinent excerpts are in order from your link, Ms. Skye.
Let’s consider that “no official proposal” bit…. Like, for example, how does this affect Obama’s budget math for his civilian health care proposal? i.e. was he counting on increased costs being borne by the US warriors as part of the plan?
Again, the gap between Obama’s proposed spending, and his anticipated revenue, will widen with reality.
BTW, I’m with Mike (much to his chagrin, no doubt… LOL) Where’s the CPAC report, girl?? Surely you and your dancing stillettos have had time to recoup.
from Syke’s link:
Here is something from 2005 (Military.com)
I would not call the age of Obama any different from the age of Bush, Clinton etc. Veterans have always paid the price, regardless of who was in the WH.
blast, it differs because it didn’t happen in 2005.
I would dearly love to believe that it won’t happen under Obama either, and will be overjoyed if it doesn’t. However the Bush admin wasn’t pushing for nationalized health care that could severely cramp the VA health care benefits.
Look to the Romney’s MA health care debacle to see how projecting health care costs tend to be notoriously low. Then compound it with a boomer age about to swamp social security and medicare. Then figure the economy is apt to stay on a decline for years, and tax revenues are not going to be growing. Then cross your fingers that Iraq will not re’escalate along with Afghanistan, and our casualties and injuries rise astronomically.
That’s a lot of potential “what if’s” founded around what we already know is Obama’s underfunded health care agenda. The age of Obama promises this to warrant concern because he’s more desperate for cash for his socialized medicine.
Ummm…
I seem to recall caveats in health care coverage that state that the insurer will not be responsible for injuries which occur as a result of “act of war.”
Now, wouldn’t service-related injuries fall into that category?
Ummm…..
Mike, as in Mike’s America Mike?
Someone should have told me.
This I am always crossing my fingers for.
@MataHarley
Haha – fair enough.
Optimism – well yes everyone is feeling the global doom & gloom at the moment. But I reckon Americans traditionally have more of a ‘can do’ attitude.
American Clothes – yes I guess China it’s the world’s workshop for sometime when it comes to clothes and now just about everything else. But as I’m referring to the casual style of jeans, T-shirt which is worn the world over now.
A lot of countries/people (like the French) sneer and fight at US culture/words etc. I said bring it on. Things I’m not keen on in the US is the Bible Belt, Sport, Country music, Rap and certain US foreign policy decisions. However I don’t think a genuine appreciation of US culture, geography, history & people is superficial even if I don’t agree with every American or every decsion from an elected american government – be it Republican or Democrat.
Gaffa, if you’re looking for American cotton in tees, it’s hard to find. Even made in USA jeans has been getting hard to find.
So yes, you are correct in that you are admiring American “style” trends. However, they are not necessarily American made anymore.
But it’s nice to hear that, amidst our many disagreements, you find the “colonialists” admirable in many ways. And we here, across the puddle, hope we can keep it that way.
@MataHarley
Cheers. At the moment I living amongst the Aussies and their a pretty friendly bunch as well. I reckon the English speaking countries should stick closer together – is that xenophobic?
As for China – it’s tricky as what do you do? As if you believe in a free market then it makes sense. However I am concerned at just how much the world relies on Chinese goods and much the West is getting itself more dependent on such countries as China and Russia for money, goods and/or resources.
I reckon the English speaking countries should stick closer together – is that xenophobic?
Liberals, like addicts, don’t believe they have a problem. You can say (or type) whatever you believe to be the truth.
@Skye
So Skye – what’s the 10 step plan in becoming a good conservative? Or is it too late – am I going to be damned with the horrendous addiction to freedom of thought and reasoning forever?;)
Or is it too late – am I going to be damned with the horrendous addiction to freedom of thought and reasoning forever?;)
I’ve seen no evidence of your thoughts straying from liberal doctrine.
@Skye
I support the death penalty…how many points does that get me?