But even so – Vietnam had nothing to do with American freedom – unless you believe that the nation of Vietnam was a threat to America – 6000 miles away – are you THAT stupid? Does ANYONE still believe that we fought in Vietnam to protect American freedom?

Yes.

It had everything to do with stopping the spread of international communism:

The Domino Theory was accurate. After WWII, communism spread violently through all of eastern Europe. They conquered East Germany, Poland….Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Romania, Albania, Latvia….one domino after another. (The communist threat was resisted by the U.S. in Greece.)

China’s fall has spelled disastrous consequences.

The U.S. was being probed and tested, everywhere as the Soviet Union advanced its interests all over the world. After WWII, a war-weary U.S. was eager to demobilize; but the threat of international communism made it clear that they were hell-bent on world domination. Stalin wrote to Zhou Enlai on August 20, 1952 during the middle of the Korean War, about how Germans conquered France in 20 days; but in 2 years of fighting, Americans had yet to subdue North Korea;already people are weeping in the U.S over the body count. Stalin’s belief was America had lost the will to win large-scale wars and the will to protect its interest, as demonstrated by America’s inability to protect China from falling to communist rule.

The countries that comprised the Association of Southeast Asian Nations remained free of communism, thanks to the U.S. intervention in Vietnam. The Indonesians threw the Soviets out in 1966 because of America’s commitment to Vietnam. Without that commitment, Communism would have swept all the way to the Malacca Straits.

For all its failures and haunt on the American psyche, the Vietnam War was a turning point. It demonstrated a willingness on the part of the U.S. to stem the tide of what is estimated to have been responsible for the deaths of as many as 100 million people, most of the murders occurring after WWII.

Missy, you hit it on the head. WarDouche shows why those like him are traitors and anything but patriots. In time, the left will get theirs and it won’t be pretty.

Bush was CERTAINLY NOT proven to have never been AWOL – just the opposite – the story was burried by Bush-licking CBS in the so-called Rathergate incident. Even without the never-proven-to-be-forged Documents held by Rather, it was OBVIOUS that Bush was AWOL – and – for the record, serving in the texas national guard (while hiding out to drink beer and snort blow and chase tail) is not quite the same as serving in the military during a war…

McCain suffered in a Vietnamese prison camp so sub-human garbage like you would have the right to spew your mentally ill leftist propaganda.”

Keep telling yourself your sweet little lies. McCain served in a prison camp because his daddy ensured that he got a flight assignment after trashing numerous jets because he was foolish pilot. But even so – Vietnam had nothing to do with American freedom – unless you believe that the nation of Vietnam was a threat to America – 6000 miles away – are you THAT stupid? Does ANYONE still believe that we fought in Vietnam to protect American freedom? What a bunch of dopes!

“The financial crisis was primarily caused by the progressives and is being made worse by them.” Of course it was – after all, Republicans held the White House for the last 8 years and Congress for 12 of the last 14 – and we all know that Republicans are impotent – even when they hold all the power – it was ACORN – because they’re so MIGHTY – that a Republican administrationa and congress just FELL to their knees when confronted by the such a MIGHTY organization…

“The pathological denial of reality that you and other leftists display makes it clear you have no business running a lemmonade stand let alone the country. Your party’s time in power will be short due to you delusions of creating a utopia when you are only destroying America.”

republican congress and republican white house equals:

9/11
Katrina mismangement
Financial crises
bin laden stil free
two wars that have achieved little in the way of progressing American interests
and our constitution used as toilet paper…
yeah – I’m sure folks will miss you guys REAL BADLY!!!!

We WON in iraq! That’s the funniest revision I read all week! Yeah – we WON if our “mission” was to invade a nation crippled by a 1993 war and years of sanctions! We Lost if the plan was to find WMDs, or to create a nation that shares American values – would YOU suggest that the new iraqi Parliment is Israel friendly? Is hostile to iran? No longer shares the idea of world-wide Islam? You’re a moron if you think so. Bush is a hated figure in iraq – last week tens of thosuands of Sadr’s followers (you remember HIM – he was the Shia leader oppressed by Saddam) burned effiges of Bush in public. We didn’t even get a good SOFA deal and Blackwater guards are about to be put on trial for murder. In Afghanistan, attacks are way up – with al qaeda leading the way. I wonder how YOU define winning? Oh I know – not crawling out in shame…

Hold your head up HIGH!!!

Gov ‘Hot Rod’ – “So anyway, I’m planning on having a private auction for “that thing” at the Governor’s Mansion and you can consider this an formal invitation to attend. I’m anxious to hear some good offers.”

Alternate:

Obama – “I only offered to sit in as your defense attorney to keep you from revealing something stupid that might implicate me. You’re lucky I got the case moved to Washington where they think I’m a “real” lawyer. Just keep your mouth shut and don’t worry about the verdict. If it goes bad, we’ll appeal, then if that fails, I’ll just pardon your ass.”

I would say the person in the center is Biden watching cartoons.

More fun with this:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_12_07-2008_12_13.shtml#1228972243

It depends on what the meaning of the word “Contact” is.

Obama claimed Tuesday:

“I had no contact with the governor or his office and, so we were not – I was not aware of what was happening,” Obama said.

Now Politico reports that he did have contact [though, to be clear to those who might not read the rest of the post, I do not think that this contact indicates that Obama discussed the Senate seat directly with Blagojevich]:

Obama and Blagojevich both attended the National Governors Association meeting last week in Philadelphia and were photographed shaking hands at the event.

Before the meeting, Blagojevich was quoted saying he had asked Obama’s transition team for federal stimulus aid of $3 billion over the next three years to help fill Illinois’ estimated $2 billion deficit.
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All this leads me to wonder if Obama is becoming like Clinton?

When Obama says that “I had no contact,” does he mean that I DID have contact, but it was indirect so I don’t have to admit it to you?

And when Obama says that “I was not aware of what was happening,” does he mean that I WAS aware of what was happening, but not to a level of certainty that I could be meet a legal “knowledge” standard beyond a reasonable doubt? (see DRJ at Patterico on this point)

And when Obama says that “I had no contact with the governor or his office and . . . I was not aware of what was happening,” does he mean that my staff DID have contact with the governor or his office and they WERE aware of what was happening?

As with Clinton, should we presume that Obama is saying something that is technically not a lie, but that the full truth is closer to the opposite of what he is trying to make us think?

I suppose “It depends on what the meaning of the word [‘contact’] is” and “what the meaning of the word [‘aware’] is.”

Blagojevich was discussing large sums of money, with Obama, but not as part of the senatorial “package deal”. I find that a little hard to swallow. Hmmm, wonder into whom’s pockets that deficit money went? The way Rod was going after “quick money” and actually expecting in his phone conversations he might be impeached before he could finish his next two years as governor, one would think he had several other things to hide. Perhaps a costly cocaine habit to support?… What I don’t get is why he was concidering holding onto the senator appointment for himself as a golden parachute he could step down and take before the end of his term in office. How would that give him any “special protections”?

Who are the names of the ABCs & 123s given in the indictment? Maybe these helps:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_12_07-2008_12_13.shtml#1228894031

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/speculation-whos-who-in-the-blago-complaint/

This looks like a good analysis too:
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/blagogate-whos-who/

But, but, obama, I have some killer weed!

Nice!

Can you get this to work, and do so without putting a lot of the info off-screan?
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/maprerout.htm

Obama to Blago: “So you appoint my pal to the Senate and I’ll make sure Fitzgerald is fired on January 20th.”

And Tom, I mentioned this in the post above but will repeat:

The NYTimes did a nifty interactive chart of MOST of the characters in this latest con:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/12/09/us/20081209_corruption.html

The only problem is that they left out one character who is at the center of the whole mess. Care to guess who that is?

I almost puke reading you. How can someone be so mentally sick and still think he is right? Boy, there is some wackos in the States. Where do you get all that ill information? Why are you writing on this site? What is your goal? Do you really think that we will buy your stuff? So what is your point? You want some attention? Or what?

My advice to you is get some education and get inform before you make a comment, it will avoid you looking like an ignorant idiot.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/12/congressman-ell.html

http://www.iranian.com/main/singlepage/2008/valerie-jarrett

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/12/federal_sources.html

UH, WELL, MAYBE LET’S NOT?