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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; The Ultimate Blockquote Post (or: The More Things Change&#8230;.)</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-147442</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; The Ultimate Blockquote Post (or: The More Things Change&#8230;.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now some are shedding a reluctance to puncture the liberal euphoria at being rid of President George W. Bush to say, in effect, that the new boss looks like the old boss. -cited from Politico in Scott&#8217;s post [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now some are shedding a reluctance to puncture the liberal euphoria at being rid of President George W. Bush to say, in effect, that the new boss looks like the old boss. -cited from Politico in Scott&#8217;s post [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-143153</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of that liberal tolerance at work.</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-143145</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post Missy-thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post Missy-thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-143143</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, oh, the they aren&#039;t liking Obama&#039;s pick, Rick Warren, to give the Invocation:

&quot;The list of suddenly awakened and outraged Lobotobot reports is astounding. Here’s just a sample:

Todd Beeton, A Spit in the Eye.

Lisa Derrick, Oh Puke! Rick Warren to Deliver Obama Invocation, Firedoglake. 

Ben Smith and Nia-Maliki Henderson, Gay leaders furious with Obama, The Politico. 

Allahpundit, Rick Warren to give invocation at Obama’s inauguration; Update: Gay groups go ballistic, Hot Air. 

Kevin Naff, Obama’s first big mistake, Washington Blade. 

Average Gay Joe, Gay Obamaniacs just got punk’d, Gay Patriot.
 
John Aravosis, Rick Warren to Give Obama Invocation, Angry Left Meltdown Ensues, JammieWearingFool.
 
Greg Sargent, Top Liberal Group Hammers Decision For Rick Warren To Deliver Obama’s Inaugural Invocation, TPM.
 
Sam Stein, Rick Warren, Obama Invocation Choice, Causing First Real Rift With Progressives, HuffPo.&quot;

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/18rick-warren-the-real-reason-theyre-so-surprised-is/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, oh, the they aren&#8217;t liking Obama&#8217;s pick, Rick Warren, to give the Invocation:</p>
<p>&#8220;The list of suddenly awakened and outraged Lobotobot reports is astounding. Here’s just a sample:</p>
<p>Todd Beeton, A Spit in the Eye.</p>
<p>Lisa Derrick, Oh Puke! Rick Warren to Deliver Obama Invocation, Firedoglake. </p>
<p>Ben Smith and Nia-Maliki Henderson, Gay leaders furious with Obama, The Politico. </p>
<p>Allahpundit, Rick Warren to give invocation at Obama’s inauguration; Update: Gay groups go ballistic, Hot Air. </p>
<p>Kevin Naff, Obama’s first big mistake, Washington Blade. </p>
<p>Average Gay Joe, Gay Obamaniacs just got punk’d, Gay Patriot.</p>
<p>John Aravosis, Rick Warren to Give Obama Invocation, Angry Left Meltdown Ensues, JammieWearingFool.</p>
<p>Greg Sargent, Top Liberal Group Hammers Decision For Rick Warren To Deliver Obama’s Inaugural Invocation, TPM.</p>
<p>Sam Stein, Rick Warren, Obama Invocation Choice, Causing First Real Rift With Progressives, HuffPo.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/18rick-warren-the-real-reason-theyre-so-surprised-is/" rel="nofollow">http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/18rick-warren-the-real-reason-theyre-so-surprised-is/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-139245</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fit fit;
I didn&#039;t say you were spouting radical left agenda, I was refering to your propensity during the campaign to mirror the positions on issues being set forth as the Obama-Biden platforms. Now he appears to your own party supporters as having no intention of adhere to the far left agenda he ran on by his selections of cabinet members. To which you come back with an, &quot;I knew it all along &amp; told you so&quot; stance. So I accused you of back-tracking. Where in your FA posts prior to the election did you predict that he would move to the left&#039;s version of &quot;center&quot; in his selection of cabinet members or on the policies after elected? In a quick review of your past posts, besides the campaign propaganda, it seemed you were more concerned with bashing Palin at every opportunity, giving us the same banal unfounded crap as the media &amp; Daily Kos, and ignoring any positives in her political history. Then after the election you began giving the Repubs here Lib Dem recipes on how the RNC should overhaul their party to be competitive.

Then in post 43 of this thread, you follow up your feeling offended post, by citing as source a link to a story via socialist George Soros&#039; mouthpiece Arianna Huffington&#039;s web-news, which turns out to be just another National Inquirer type rag opinion pieces disguised as news from Huffington&#039;s pool of biased reporters. So which is it? If you keep throwing us garbage like that instead of something substantial and factual based, then what you donate to debate is no better than what we get from the fly-by moonbats. 

Thank you BTW, in post 46 for actually providing something factual in support of one of your arguments for a change. Took me a little while to read through all the prepared speeches since I&#039;m also in preparing for the holidays mode, yet I don&#039;t see the failure to mention Afghanistan along with all the other serious issues being discussed as I position of non-support by the RNC for our troops. They may not always say it in words, but in deeds, Republicans seem much more likely to come out and sit down with the troops, take their pulse and actually find out what they are thinking, rather than hanging out with the officers and local officials for photo ops. 

In my 21+ years of service in the USAF, I found Repubs politicians much more likely to come out to the flightline and get involved in talking to the people with the sweat on their brow. Or to come out to a hanger and mention their support, discuss issues being pursued, &amp; goals that meant something to us, which would usually be followed by some Q&amp;A. Hell I even got a wake-up following a night shift once by a party going room-to-room checking out our living conditions. When Dems came out, the only way you actually found out they were there was by a write-up in the base newspapers. Or perhaps once in a while you might see a convoy of staff cars cruising by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fit fit;<br />
I didn&#8217;t say you were spouting radical left agenda, I was refering to your propensity during the campaign to mirror the positions on issues being set forth as the Obama-Biden platforms. Now he appears to your own party supporters as having no intention of adhere to the far left agenda he ran on by his selections of cabinet members. To which you come back with an, &#8220;I knew it all along &amp; told you so&#8221; stance. So I accused you of back-tracking. Where in your FA posts prior to the election did you predict that he would move to the left&#8217;s version of &#8220;center&#8221; in his selection of cabinet members or on the policies after elected? In a quick review of your past posts, besides the campaign propaganda, it seemed you were more concerned with bashing Palin at every opportunity, giving us the same banal unfounded crap as the media &amp; Daily Kos, and ignoring any positives in her political history. Then after the election you began giving the Repubs here Lib Dem recipes on how the RNC should overhaul their party to be competitive.</p>
<p>Then in post 43 of this thread, you follow up your feeling offended post, by citing as source a link to a story via socialist George Soros&#8217; mouthpiece Arianna Huffington&#8217;s web-news, which turns out to be just another National Inquirer type rag opinion pieces disguised as news from Huffington&#8217;s pool of biased reporters. So which is it? If you keep throwing us garbage like that instead of something substantial and factual based, then what you donate to debate is no better than what we get from the fly-by moonbats. </p>
<p>Thank you BTW, in post 46 for actually providing something factual in support of one of your arguments for a change. Took me a little while to read through all the prepared speeches since I&#8217;m also in preparing for the holidays mode, yet I don&#8217;t see the failure to mention Afghanistan along with all the other serious issues being discussed as I position of non-support by the RNC for our troops. They may not always say it in words, but in deeds, Republicans seem much more likely to come out and sit down with the troops, take their pulse and actually find out what they are thinking, rather than hanging out with the officers and local officials for photo ops. </p>
<p>In my 21+ years of service in the USAF, I found Repubs politicians much more likely to come out to the flightline and get involved in talking to the people with the sweat on their brow. Or to come out to a hanger and mention their support, discuss issues being pursued, &amp; goals that meant something to us, which would usually be followed by some Q&amp;A. Hell I even got a wake-up following a night shift once by a party going room-to-room checking out our living conditions. When Dems came out, the only way you actually found out they were there was by a write-up in the base newspapers. Or perhaps once in a while you might see a convoy of staff cars cruising by.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-138218</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true FF.  It&#039;s an opinion.  Little more than that, and based on word count in political speeches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true FF.  It&#8217;s an opinion.  Little more than that, and based on word count in political speeches.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-138211</link>
		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

Pointing fingers at Democrats isn&#039;t an answer to the oversight.  I&#039;m not a Democrat so find someone else  to defend that point.  

My &lt;em&gt;opinion&lt;/em&gt; is that it&#039;s been more than just lipservice that&#039;s been forgotten in Afghanistan.

I&#039;m trying to teach Hard Right the difference between fact and opinion.  

The &lt;em&gt;fact&lt;/em&gt; is no one mentioned Afghanistan.  What that means or says about the  GOP is an &lt;em&gt;opinion&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>Pointing fingers at Democrats isn&#8217;t an answer to the oversight.  I&#8217;m not a Democrat so find someone else  to defend that point.  </p>
<p>My <em>opinion</em> is that it&#8217;s been more than just lipservice that&#8217;s been forgotten in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to teach Hard Right the difference between fact and opinion.  </p>
<p>The <em>fact</em> is no one mentioned Afghanistan.  What that means or says about the  GOP is an <em>opinion</em></p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-138174</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fit, don&#039;t misconstrue that *I* don&#039;t think our NATO troops in Afghanistan don&#039;t matter.  *All* troops of *all* countries matter to me.  And the US isn&#039;t &quot;in charge&quot; of Afghanistan&#039;s security, but must coordinate strategy with NATO leadership.

What I am saying is that the biggest beef about Iraq is the &quot;unilateral&quot; perception.  Therefore, the onus of victory or failure falls solely on US shoulders as the leader of that theatre.  Remember, most don&#039;t have a problem with the Afghanistan theatre.  Thus it&#039;s not addressed much by either party, or the press.  And when it is, it&#039;s to blame America for NATO&#039;s failures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fit, don&#8217;t misconstrue that *I* don&#8217;t think our NATO troops in Afghanistan don&#8217;t matter.  *All* troops of *all* countries matter to me.  And the US isn&#8217;t &#8220;in charge&#8221; of Afghanistan&#8217;s security, but must coordinate strategy with NATO leadership.</p>
<p>What I am saying is that the biggest beef about Iraq is the &#8220;unilateral&#8221; perception.  Therefore, the onus of victory or failure falls solely on US shoulders as the leader of that theatre.  Remember, most don&#8217;t have a problem with the Afghanistan theatre.  Thus it&#8217;s not addressed much by either party, or the press.  And when it is, it&#8217;s to blame America for NATO&#8217;s failures.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-138173</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right Fitfit.  No one at the 2008 DNC convention ever said the word, &quot;victory&quot; either.  Point here is that words do not equal deeds.  A person can say they&#039;re going to &quot;end the war in Iraq&quot; 1000 times or more, but the question is: when elected, do they actually do it, or do they suddenly backtrack, caveat, nuance, and do so in name only?  This is important as the blood is far more real than the words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Fitfit.  No one at the 2008 DNC convention ever said the word, &#8220;victory&#8221; either.  Point here is that words do not equal deeds.  A person can say they&#8217;re going to &#8220;end the war in Iraq&#8221; 1000 times or more, but the question is: when elected, do they actually do it, or do they suddenly backtrack, caveat, nuance, and do so in name only?  This is important as the blood is far more real than the words.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-138161</link>
		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our troops there don&#039;t matter because it&#039;s not unilateral?  Weak arguement.  Try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our troops there don&#8217;t matter because it&#8217;s not unilateral?  Weak arguement.  Try again.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-138158</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe that&#039;s because Afghanstan became a NATO war in the summer of 2006, Fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe that&#8217;s because Afghanstan became a NATO war in the summer of 2006, Fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-138123</link>
		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to recall you are unable to distingush between fact and opinion.

I got some facts that will take you places you don&#039;t want to go.

Here&#039;s a fact for you:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://portal.gopconvention2008.com/speech/default.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No one&lt;/a&gt; delivering speeches at the 2008 GOP Convention acknowledged the war in Afghanistan.

No one thanked the troops or promised victory or even mention the word Afghanistan.

Forgotastan indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to recall you are unable to distingush between fact and opinion.</p>
<p>I got some facts that will take you places you don&#8217;t want to go.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a fact for you:</p>
<p><a href="http://portal.gopconvention2008.com/speech/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">No one</a> delivering speeches at the 2008 GOP Convention acknowledged the war in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>No one thanked the troops or promised victory or even mention the word Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Forgotastan indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-138060</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I was going to ask you that myself unFit.
FYI, I go where the facts take me. You believe only what fits into your fantasy world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I was going to ask you that myself unFit.<br />
FYI, I go where the facts take me. You believe only what fits into your fantasy world.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/08/liberals-voice-concerns-about-obama/#comment-137866</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep dreaming Larry!    Obama is a two of spade.</description>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/09/obama-birth-certificate-k_n_149651.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KOokS indeed&lt;/a&gt;.  

That&#039;s twice I&#039;ve agreed with you, you must be having a rather lucid day.  Have they worked out your medication?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/09/obama-birth-certificate-k_n_149651.html" rel="nofollow">KOokS indeed</a>.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s twice I&#8217;ve agreed with you, you must be having a rather lucid day.  Have they worked out your medication?</p>
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