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	<title>Comments on: A President Who Won&#8217;t Produce His Birth Certificate? [Reader Post]</title>
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		<title>By: gaetano</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/04/a-president-who-wont-produce-his-birth-certificate-reader-post/#comment-139550</link>
		<dc:creator>gaetano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the SCOTUS better proove to every one in this country that Obamma is really legal or not,and just not by words such as denied,or put aside. both sides are waiting for the answers,and if it is not prooven by showing legal documents to the public,there is going to be a race war like nobody has ever seen,between blacks, whites, democrats and republicans.The SCOTUS is in for something bad if they think that they can get out of this with just words.We want answers and proof,no matter what the outcome.If this is just passed of with words,
    GOD  HELP US ALL

    TO MR. OBAMMA :   PRESENT THE FACTS OF YOUR LIFE,QUIT HIDING WHATEVER IT IS BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU LOOK GUILTY. SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the SCOTUS better proove to every one in this country that Obamma is really legal or not,and just not by words such as denied,or put aside. both sides are waiting for the answers,and if it is not prooven by showing legal documents to the public,there is going to be a race war like nobody has ever seen,between blacks, whites, democrats and republicans.The SCOTUS is in for something bad if they think that they can get out of this with just words.We want answers and proof,no matter what the outcome.If this is just passed of with words,<br />
    GOD  HELP US ALL</p>
<p>    TO MR. OBAMMA :   PRESENT THE FACTS OF YOUR LIFE,QUIT HIDING WHATEVER IT IS BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU LOOK GUILTY. SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/04/a-president-who-wont-produce-his-birth-certificate-reader-post/#comment-137342</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The denofrio case was denied on Monday dec 8th however, there are still three more cases regarding Obamas birth certificate and issues surrounding his citizenship before the supreme court.  Obama will NEVER be inauaurated.  The following case by Berg is not brought by a right wing person, Berg is a lifelong democrat.  Also, the two other cases are also brought by concerned citizens....
read about them all at www.naturalborncitizen.org


U.S. Supreme Court Update Regarding The December 01, 2008 Deadline 
Thursday, 04 December 2008 01:46 Webmaster Main - News    We understand everyone is eager to learn what occurred on December 1, 2008, at the U.S. Supreme Court. There is a rumor claiming Mr. Obama was Court Ordered by Justice Souter to turn over his birth certificate by December 1, 2008. This is NOT true.

When a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari is filed the Defendants automatically are given thirty (30) days to respond. They are not required to respond. The end of thirty (30) Days in the Berg v. Obama case was December 1, 2008. Keep in mind, the Defendants could have mailed in a response to the Petition for Writ of Certiorari and the Court allows approximately a week for mail. If this is the case, the envelopes must be postmarked December 1, 2008.

In the afternoon, December 1, 2008, Lisa, Mr. Berg&#039;s Assistant contacted the U.S. Supreme Court and spoke with the Clerk. The Clerk informed Lisa Mr. Berg&#039;s Petition for Writ of Certiorari would be distributed to all nine (9) Justices and a conference should be set within ten (10) days. As I&#039;m sure you are aware, during the conference the Justices will discuss Mr. Berg&#039;s Petition for the Writ of Certiorari and decide whether or not to grant or deny the Petition. It only takes four (4) out of nine (9) Justices to agree to grant Mr. Berg&#039;s Petition for Writ of Certiorari. The Justices can also make other Orders during the Conference.

Mr. Berg&#039;s Office also learned the Solicitor General is only representing the Federal Election Commission. 

Additional documents will be filed within the next couple of days. All Legal briefs will be posted on our website, so please continue checking back for updates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The denofrio case was denied on Monday dec 8th however, there are still three more cases regarding Obamas birth certificate and issues surrounding his citizenship before the supreme court.  Obama will NEVER be inauaurated.  The following case by Berg is not brought by a right wing person, Berg is a lifelong democrat.  Also, the two other cases are also brought by concerned citizens&#8230;.<br />
read about them all at <a href="http://www.naturalborncitizen.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturalborncitizen.org</a></p>
<p>U.S. Supreme Court Update Regarding The December 01, 2008 Deadline<br />
Thursday, 04 December 2008 01:46 Webmaster Main &#8211; News    We understand everyone is eager to learn what occurred on December 1, 2008, at the U.S. Supreme Court. There is a rumor claiming Mr. Obama was Court Ordered by Justice Souter to turn over his birth certificate by December 1, 2008. This is NOT true.</p>
<p>When a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari is filed the Defendants automatically are given thirty (30) days to respond. They are not required to respond. The end of thirty (30) Days in the Berg v. Obama case was December 1, 2008. Keep in mind, the Defendants could have mailed in a response to the Petition for Writ of Certiorari and the Court allows approximately a week for mail. If this is the case, the envelopes must be postmarked December 1, 2008.</p>
<p>In the afternoon, December 1, 2008, Lisa, Mr. Berg&#8217;s Assistant contacted the U.S. Supreme Court and spoke with the Clerk. The Clerk informed Lisa Mr. Berg&#8217;s Petition for Writ of Certiorari would be distributed to all nine (9) Justices and a conference should be set within ten (10) days. As I&#8217;m sure you are aware, during the conference the Justices will discuss Mr. Berg&#8217;s Petition for the Writ of Certiorari and decide whether or not to grant or deny the Petition. It only takes four (4) out of nine (9) Justices to agree to grant Mr. Berg&#8217;s Petition for Writ of Certiorari. The Justices can also make other Orders during the Conference.</p>
<p>Mr. Berg&#8217;s Office also learned the Solicitor General is only representing the Federal Election Commission. </p>
<p>Additional documents will be filed within the next couple of days. All Legal briefs will be posted on our website, so please continue checking back for updates.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rowland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warpublican Review:
Then let&#039;s see how it goes, as I said, Obama could have done this at any time. I don&#039;t believe he has one.</description>
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Then let&#8217;s see how it goes, as I said, Obama could have done this at any time. I don&#8217;t believe he has one.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rowland</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/04/a-president-who-wont-produce-his-birth-certificate-reader-post/#comment-137290</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warpublican Review:
Quite frankly I was not aware of the Bush/Cheney suit. Notwithstanding, whether two  running mates come from the same state, is IMHO, not the same as a foreign national running for president and winning. Since you have read up on the subject, why not read WHY the Framers specifically put this in the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warpublican Review:<br />
Quite frankly I was not aware of the Bush/Cheney suit. Notwithstanding, whether two  running mates come from the same state, is IMHO, not the same as a foreign national running for president and winning. Since you have read up on the subject, why not read WHY the Framers specifically put this in the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Warpublican Review</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/04/a-president-who-wont-produce-his-birth-certificate-reader-post/#comment-137178</link>
		<dc:creator>Warpublican Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t care if you are interested in what Berg or Keyes wants. But you should be very interested that he refuses to produce what should be quite simple if it’s factual.&quot;

I&#039;m not that interested. Nor would I be interested if McCain had won - remember that CONGRESS cleared him for this election - and I would have accepted that. Now - if the Supreme Court had demanded that Obama show his Long form BC, and he still could not, THEN I would be VERY interested - but until that time, i have no reason not to trust the guy - it&#039;s not like Berg or Keyes had NO DOG IN THIS FIGHT...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t care if you are interested in what Berg or Keyes wants. But you should be very interested that he refuses to produce what should be quite simple if it’s factual.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not that interested. Nor would I be interested if McCain had won &#8211; remember that CONGRESS cleared him for this election &#8211; and I would have accepted that. Now &#8211; if the Supreme Court had demanded that Obama show his Long form BC, and he still could not, THEN I would be VERY interested &#8211; but until that time, i have no reason not to trust the guy &#8211; it&#8217;s not like Berg or Keyes had NO DOG IN THIS FIGHT&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Warpublican Review</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/04/a-president-who-wont-produce-his-birth-certificate-reader-post/#comment-137176</link>
		<dc:creator>Warpublican Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, I despise Obama, I despise him because he is a created Marxist entity, and I daresay we will eventually see this come out in his policies, notwithstanding protestations to the contrary that he will govern from the center. He is taking a very low-key entry progressing to his swearing in but let’s wait a while. Come back and see me in, say, 8 months. The fact I despise him does not necessary follow that I want him out ‘by hook or crook’ full well knowing what the result would be.&quot;

Upon doing some reading on this, I found that Bush and Cheney were sued because, according to the Constitution, both candidates CAN&#039;T be from the same state (texas) - the suit was turned donw because - you guessed it - the LEFTIES who brought the suit had no standing. I seriously doubt you would&#039;ve wanted that suit to go to trial. If you despise Obama because of his polices that&#039;s as American as Apple pie - but this rear-quard attack dressed as a concern for the constitution smells of pure fakery. Unlike a lot of lefties, i was THRILLED that even though Bush won in 2004, and I sure didn&#039;t support him, he won a clean election (or clean enough). You may think I have my head in the sand, but I&#039;ve read agreat deal on this issue (now that the election is over, i need SOMETHING to obsess on), and from everything I can see, this is a pure non-starter...

far less, IMHO, than the Bush debacle of 2000 (which, BTW, I accepted the Supreme&#039;s final decision. I NEVER felt Bush STOLE the election)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, I despise Obama, I despise him because he is a created Marxist entity, and I daresay we will eventually see this come out in his policies, notwithstanding protestations to the contrary that he will govern from the center. He is taking a very low-key entry progressing to his swearing in but let’s wait a while. Come back and see me in, say, 8 months. The fact I despise him does not necessary follow that I want him out ‘by hook or crook’ full well knowing what the result would be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Upon doing some reading on this, I found that Bush and Cheney were sued because, according to the Constitution, both candidates CAN&#8217;T be from the same state (texas) &#8211; the suit was turned donw because &#8211; you guessed it &#8211; the LEFTIES who brought the suit had no standing. I seriously doubt you would&#8217;ve wanted that suit to go to trial. If you despise Obama because of his polices that&#8217;s as American as Apple pie &#8211; but this rear-quard attack dressed as a concern for the constitution smells of pure fakery. Unlike a lot of lefties, i was THRILLED that even though Bush won in 2004, and I sure didn&#8217;t support him, he won a clean election (or clean enough). You may think I have my head in the sand, but I&#8217;ve read agreat deal on this issue (now that the election is over, i need SOMETHING to obsess on), and from everything I can see, this is a pure non-starter&#8230;</p>
<p>far less, IMHO, than the Bush debacle of 2000 (which, BTW, I accepted the Supreme&#8217;s final decision. I NEVER felt Bush STOLE the election)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Ivanovich</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/04/a-president-who-wont-produce-his-birth-certificate-reader-post/#comment-136429</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Ivanovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something tells me that Warpublican would be satisfied if Obama produced a document which said that he was born on September 16, 1787 thereby fullfilling the &quot;at the time of the Adoption&quot; clause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something tells me that Warpublican would be satisfied if Obama produced a document which said that he was born on September 16, 1787 thereby fullfilling the &#8220;at the time of the Adoption&#8221; clause.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lebanese files lawsuit alleging Obama is not American by birth 
http://www.arabisto.com/p_blogEntry.cfm?blogEntryID=1373</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lebanese files lawsuit alleging Obama is not American by birth<br />
<a href="http://www.arabisto.com/p_blogEntry.cfm?blogEntryID=1373" rel="nofollow">http://www.arabisto.com/p_blogEntry.cfm?blogEntryID=1373</a></p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warpublic/jabelson said:
&lt;blockquote&gt; I’m also sure that Obama need not satisfy the folks at Hot Air or Flopping Aces merely because they want him to...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The hell he doesn&#039;t. I&#039;m a citizen of the US, and this man wants to be my President.  He *will* answer the courts if they do not throw it out, or you&#039;ll find me on the side of Berg and Keyes in short order.

I agree.  Berg&#039;s somewhat of a leftist lunatic.  However I am a firm believe that no one pays lawyers off to bypass our system.  As of now, he&#039;s hired lawyers to make arguments in court as to why he doesn&#039;t have to comply with proving his birth.  Bad juju, as far as I&#039;m concerned. He&#039;d impress me more if he&#039;d just prove his birth, and be done with it all.  Now I&#039;m suspicious.

The Berg case ended up in the SCOTUS because they threw it out for standing.  That&#039;s a big difference for it being dismissed for lack of evidence.  Obama and his legal team have spent big buck&#039;s fighting what should be a simple disclosure.

But you, in your blind faith, minimize the importance of this.  I don&#039;t care if Keyes has a beef or axe to grind, or not.  Anyone can be sued in this country on false charges.  But when you are charged, you *will* have the respect for the court system... innocent or guilty.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I trust Obama because I believe in him - and also - when I read the “charges” against him - and the proof offered, I’m not convinced that there’s any “there” there. And I have read quite a lot on this - it’s been going on for months and.... &lt;i&gt;snip the BS here &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


The more you comment, the more the voters of this country worry me, Warpublican/jabelson.  If they are all lacking the healthy curiousity you are, plus the irreverence applied to minimizing the judicial process and it&#039;s outcome, we be in deep shit.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not interested in what berg wants - I believe that he’s a political operative looking to get his name in the newspapers - I’m not really interested in his paranoid fantasies. Obama has no responsibility to mr. berg - or that fool from new jersey and certainly not Alan keyes. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t care if you are interested in what Berg or Keyes wants.  But you should be very interested that he refuses to produce what should be quite simple if it&#039;s factual.

And you are totally wrong.  If you don&#039;t think Obama has &quot;responsibility&quot; to show Keyes... or even we, the commoner here in the US... what the lawsuit demands in a court of law, you are nothing more than a trusting fool.  It is such attitudes as yours that will be the death of us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warpublic/jabelson said:</p>
<blockquote><p> I’m also sure that Obama need not satisfy the folks at Hot Air or Flopping Aces merely because they want him to&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>The hell he doesn&#8217;t. I&#8217;m a citizen of the US, and this man wants to be my President.  He *will* answer the courts if they do not throw it out, or you&#8217;ll find me on the side of Berg and Keyes in short order.</p>
<p>I agree.  Berg&#8217;s somewhat of a leftist lunatic.  However I am a firm believe that no one pays lawyers off to bypass our system.  As of now, he&#8217;s hired lawyers to make arguments in court as to why he doesn&#8217;t have to comply with proving his birth.  Bad juju, as far as I&#8217;m concerned. He&#8217;d impress me more if he&#8217;d just prove his birth, and be done with it all.  Now I&#8217;m suspicious.</p>
<p>The Berg case ended up in the SCOTUS because they threw it out for standing.  That&#8217;s a big difference for it being dismissed for lack of evidence.  Obama and his legal team have spent big buck&#8217;s fighting what should be a simple disclosure.</p>
<p>But you, in your blind faith, minimize the importance of this.  I don&#8217;t care if Keyes has a beef or axe to grind, or not.  Anyone can be sued in this country on false charges.  But when you are charged, you *will* have the respect for the court system&#8230; innocent or guilty.</p>
<blockquote><p>I trust Obama because I believe in him &#8211; and also &#8211; when I read the “charges” against him &#8211; and the proof offered, I’m not convinced that there’s any “there” there. And I have read quite a lot on this &#8211; it’s been going on for months and&#8230;. <i>snip the BS here </i></p></blockquote>
<p>The more you comment, the more the voters of this country worry me, Warpublican/jabelson.  If they are all lacking the healthy curiousity you are, plus the irreverence applied to minimizing the judicial process and it&#8217;s outcome, we be in deep shit.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not interested in what berg wants &#8211; I believe that he’s a political operative looking to get his name in the newspapers &#8211; I’m not really interested in his paranoid fantasies. Obama has no responsibility to mr. berg &#8211; or that fool from new jersey and certainly not Alan keyes. </p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if you are interested in what Berg or Keyes wants.  But you should be very interested that he refuses to produce what should be quite simple if it&#8217;s factual.</p>
<p>And you are totally wrong.  If you don&#8217;t think Obama has &#8220;responsibility&#8221; to show Keyes&#8230; or even we, the commoner here in the US&#8230; what the lawsuit demands in a court of law, you are nothing more than a trusting fool.  It is such attitudes as yours that will be the death of us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The man claiming the job of POTUS, Barack Hussein Obama, has already admitted his dual citizenship at birth and his Indonesian citizenship through adoption in his writings, interviews, and on his website. These multiple citizenships at birth and throughout his life instantly disqualify him from the office of POTUS under Article II of the Constitution of the United States.&quot;

Dr. Kate: STAND BY ME
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/stand-by-me/#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The man claiming the job of POTUS, Barack Hussein Obama, has already admitted his dual citizenship at birth and his Indonesian citizenship through adoption in his writings, interviews, and on his website. These multiple citizenships at birth and throughout his life instantly disqualify him from the office of POTUS under Article II of the Constitution of the United States.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr. Kate: STAND BY ME<br />
<a href="http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/stand-by-me/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/stand-by-me/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rowland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warpublican Review:
After this, you can have the last word since its not matter of my changing your point of view nor your changing mine.

I don&#039;t in any shape nor form expect the SCOTUS to overturn the election. Not going to happen. I and many, many other citizens would simply like to see a ruling on the matter. The matter has concrete grounds and is valid and deserves a hearing. I don&#039;t see it as &quot;arcane interpretations of law&quot;.

Sigh (running hand thru hair)...I did not jsut fall off the turnip truck and I am quite aware that should the SCOTUS &#039;throw&#039; an election, even one where most of the electorate did not know who the hell they were voting for, but were caught up in fantasyland, would result not in some &#039;serious street fighting&#039; but wholesale rioting, burning, looting and the associated shenanigans of the philosophy of Saul Alinsky. 

I and others would like to know who it is who has been elected to the presidency. the Hussein Obama we see is NOT the one who is. That is all down pat in his past for all to see if they even care to do so. 

Yes, I despise Obama, I despise him because he is a created Marxist entity, and I daresay we will eventually see this come out in his policies, notwithstanding protestations to the contrary that he will govern from the center.  He is taking a very low-key entry progressing to his swearing in but let&#039;s wait a while. Come back and see me in, say, 8 months. The fact I despise him does not necessary follow that I want him out &#039;by hook or crook&#039; full well knowing what the result would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warpublican Review:<br />
After this, you can have the last word since its not matter of my changing your point of view nor your changing mine.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t in any shape nor form expect the SCOTUS to overturn the election. Not going to happen. I and many, many other citizens would simply like to see a ruling on the matter. The matter has concrete grounds and is valid and deserves a hearing. I don&#8217;t see it as &#8220;arcane interpretations of law&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sigh (running hand thru hair)&#8230;I did not jsut fall off the turnip truck and I am quite aware that should the SCOTUS &#8216;throw&#8217; an election, even one where most of the electorate did not know who the hell they were voting for, but were caught up in fantasyland, would result not in some &#8217;serious street fighting&#8217; but wholesale rioting, burning, looting and the associated shenanigans of the philosophy of Saul Alinsky. </p>
<p>I and others would like to know who it is who has been elected to the presidency. the Hussein Obama we see is NOT the one who is. That is all down pat in his past for all to see if they even care to do so. </p>
<p>Yes, I despise Obama, I despise him because he is a created Marxist entity, and I daresay we will eventually see this come out in his policies, notwithstanding protestations to the contrary that he will govern from the center.  He is taking a very low-key entry progressing to his swearing in but let&#8217;s wait a while. Come back and see me in, say, 8 months. The fact I despise him does not necessary follow that I want him out &#8216;by hook or crook&#8217; full well knowing what the result would be.</p>
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		<title>By: Warpublican Review</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/04/a-president-who-wont-produce-his-birth-certificate-reader-post/#comment-135966</link>
		<dc:creator>Warpublican Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This article will concentrate on the admitted fact that Barack Obama was born with dual citizenship.” 

I&#039;m not concerned with this article - arcane interpretations of law doesn&#039;t interest me - particularly when they lead with: &quot;Let me observe here that if my theory is correct...&quot; This is just another opinion in the White noise of the internet. 

If you really believe that the Supreme Court will overturn this election based on this nonsense...

your deluded. That&#039;s fine. What I don&#039;t get is - even if your despise Obama, why you&#039;d want to try to win in this manner. At the very least, to throw an election - after the votes have been cast (by citizens, not the electoral college) would result in some serious street fighting - as well it should. if you believe that the question of who is a natural born citizen has not been settled - and it obviously has not, let&#039;s settle it. But this has NOTHING to do with the constitution nor concern with it - the same folks who are SO concerned with the constitution, SNEER at those who felt that Gitmo was a constitutional disgrace - so please - at least be HONEST - you want Obama out by hook or crook...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This article will concentrate on the admitted fact that Barack Obama was born with dual citizenship.” </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not concerned with this article &#8211; arcane interpretations of law doesn&#8217;t interest me &#8211; particularly when they lead with: &#8220;Let me observe here that if my theory is correct&#8230;&#8221; This is just another opinion in the White noise of the internet. </p>
<p>If you really believe that the Supreme Court will overturn this election based on this nonsense&#8230;</p>
<p>your deluded. That&#8217;s fine. What I don&#8217;t get is &#8211; even if your despise Obama, why you&#8217;d want to try to win in this manner. At the very least, to throw an election &#8211; after the votes have been cast (by citizens, not the electoral college) would result in some serious street fighting &#8211; as well it should. if you believe that the question of who is a natural born citizen has not been settled &#8211; and it obviously has not, let&#8217;s settle it. But this has NOTHING to do with the constitution nor concern with it &#8211; the same folks who are SO concerned with the constitution, SNEER at those who felt that Gitmo was a constitutional disgrace &#8211; so please &#8211; at least be HONEST &#8211; you want Obama out by hook or crook&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rowland</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/04/a-president-who-wont-produce-his-birth-certificate-reader-post/#comment-135963</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warpublican Review:
 
&quot;Good People Sleep Peaceably In Their Beds At Night,
Only Because Honorable Men Stand Ready To Speak And Present The Truth On Their Behalf.&quot;

George Orwell

For the record, no i did not believe that George Bush was responsible for 9/11. I would suggest that that shows that Berg doesn&#039;t play favorites. &#039;Paranoid fantasies&#039; is a term that is relative to which side of the matter one is viewing the proceedings. Read &#039;The Trojan Candidate&#039; (linked above) and let&#039;s have a discussion of that. 

I don&#039;t believe that this is about Obama, to me, its about the constitution. I didn&#039;t vote for Obama, not by any stretch, and while he has been elected, he is not yet POTUS. It would be ironical if the candidate of the left who actually won an election, turned out to be bogus. Um....that&#039;s not strange to me.

I saw this comment on another blog: &quot;My fiancee has recently tired of listening to me talk about this. So... she just called the FEC to find out why they don&#039;t require any proof. The FEC referred her to the California Elections Commission. So... she called them to ask the same question. She spoke with Cathy Mitchell, who claimed to be the Director of Elections. Cathy got agitated and declared that &quot;Barack Obama is definitely a US Citizen&quot;. She stated that &quot;we already know that (he) is a US citizen&quot;. Then she stated that &quot;it&#039;s not a matter of him having to prove it, but that somebody would need to prove otherwise&quot;. She suggested that somebody would have to sue him. Though my fiance was quite polite, Cathy Mitchell was angry, irritable, and rude. She also suggested, &quot;Maybe you should just write a letter to the editor&quot;.&quot;

Maybe Obama is totally above board (although according to his own history, he is not) but just suppose he is... such lax vigilance upon candidates qualifications can easily assure that a political party can set up a stealth candidate, be it republican or democrat and possibly getting them elected. The scrutiny that Obama is receiving will assure that in the future the qualifications of candidates are as outlined in the constitution and that We The People care served by that constitution as the Framers intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warpublican Review:</p>
<p>&#8220;Good People Sleep Peaceably In Their Beds At Night,<br />
Only Because Honorable Men Stand Ready To Speak And Present The Truth On Their Behalf.&#8221;</p>
<p>George Orwell</p>
<p>For the record, no i did not believe that George Bush was responsible for 9/11. I would suggest that that shows that Berg doesn&#8217;t play favorites. &#8216;Paranoid fantasies&#8217; is a term that is relative to which side of the matter one is viewing the proceedings. Read &#8216;The Trojan Candidate&#8217; (linked above) and let&#8217;s have a discussion of that. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that this is about Obama, to me, its about the constitution. I didn&#8217;t vote for Obama, not by any stretch, and while he has been elected, he is not yet POTUS. It would be ironical if the candidate of the left who actually won an election, turned out to be bogus. Um&#8230;.that&#8217;s not strange to me.</p>
<p>I saw this comment on another blog: &#8220;My fiancee has recently tired of listening to me talk about this. So&#8230; she just called the FEC to find out why they don&#8217;t require any proof. The FEC referred her to the California Elections Commission. So&#8230; she called them to ask the same question. She spoke with Cathy Mitchell, who claimed to be the Director of Elections. Cathy got agitated and declared that &#8220;Barack Obama is definitely a US Citizen&#8221;. She stated that &#8220;we already know that (he) is a US citizen&#8221;. Then she stated that &#8220;it&#8217;s not a matter of him having to prove it, but that somebody would need to prove otherwise&#8221;. She suggested that somebody would have to sue him. Though my fiance was quite polite, Cathy Mitchell was angry, irritable, and rude. She also suggested, &#8220;Maybe you should just write a letter to the editor&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe Obama is totally above board (although according to his own history, he is not) but just suppose he is&#8230; such lax vigilance upon candidates qualifications can easily assure that a political party can set up a stealth candidate, be it republican or democrat and possibly getting them elected. The scrutiny that Obama is receiving will assure that in the future the qualifications of candidates are as outlined in the constitution and that We The People care served by that constitution as the Framers intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Warpublican Review</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/04/a-president-who-wont-produce-his-birth-certificate-reader-post/#comment-135962</link>
		<dc:creator>Warpublican Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;OBAMA HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE, PERIOD. &quot;

Pure conjecture on your part - nothing more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;OBAMA HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE, PERIOD. &#8221;</p>
<p>Pure conjecture on your part &#8211; nothing more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Warpublican Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warpublican Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve says:
&quot;The Phillip Berg suit of which people are generally familiar was thrown out brought up some interesting facts about Obama: Obama has not released any of his medical records. Mr. Berg believes that the reason is is because you will find Obama’s birth place on his medical records. &quot;

So? - Berg also believed that Bush was responsible for 9/11 - did YOU? I didn&#039;t.


&quot;Obama has not released his college records. Mr. Berg believes you will find that Obama received foreign aid listed on his college records.&quot;


I&#039;m not particularly interested in what berg thinks - why are you?  Berg is just another guy who wants to cause trouble. It&#039;s not Obama&#039;s job to please the Phil bergs. I just wonder if Kos made similar claims against a candidate you supported if you would be just as sanguine... Something telss me you wouldn&#039;t. This is purly political intrigue - nothing more and nothing less...


&quot;Mr. Berg wanted Obama to do just one simple thing - produce a copy of his original birth certificate. Obama for some reason just won’t produce it. Strange, huh?&quot;

Strange to you - not to me. I&#039;m not interested in what berg wants - I believe that he&#039;s a political operative looking to get his name in the newspapers - I&#039;m not really interested in his paranoid fantasies.  Obama has no responsibility to mr. berg -  or that fool from new jersey and certainly not Alan keyes. if a court orders Obama to produce a birth certificate - and the man refuses, then let&#039;s have a discussion about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve says:<br />
&#8220;The Phillip Berg suit of which people are generally familiar was thrown out brought up some interesting facts about Obama: Obama has not released any of his medical records. Mr. Berg believes that the reason is is because you will find Obama’s birth place on his medical records. &#8221;</p>
<p>So? &#8211; Berg also believed that Bush was responsible for 9/11 &#8211; did YOU? I didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama has not released his college records. Mr. Berg believes you will find that Obama received foreign aid listed on his college records.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not particularly interested in what berg thinks &#8211; why are you?  Berg is just another guy who wants to cause trouble. It&#8217;s not Obama&#8217;s job to please the Phil bergs. I just wonder if Kos made similar claims against a candidate you supported if you would be just as sanguine&#8230; Something telss me you wouldn&#8217;t. This is purly political intrigue &#8211; nothing more and nothing less&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Berg wanted Obama to do just one simple thing &#8211; produce a copy of his original birth certificate. Obama for some reason just won’t produce it. Strange, huh?&#8221;</p>
<p>Strange to you &#8211; not to me. I&#8217;m not interested in what berg wants &#8211; I believe that he&#8217;s a political operative looking to get his name in the newspapers &#8211; I&#8217;m not really interested in his paranoid fantasies.  Obama has no responsibility to mr. berg &#8211;  or that fool from new jersey and certainly not Alan keyes. if a court orders Obama to produce a birth certificate &#8211; and the man refuses, then let&#8217;s have a discussion about it&#8230;</p>
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