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		<title>By: Larry Weisenthal</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/how-democrats-are-attempting-to-steal-a-senate-seat/#comment-130986</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Weisenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were do the conservatives stand with regard to the Ted Stevens election?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=a4tLU.mMRFGk&amp;refer=home

- Larry W/HB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were do the conservatives stand with regard to the Ted Stevens election?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=a4tLU.mMRFGk&amp;refer=home" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=a4tLU.mMRFGk&amp;refer=home</a></p>
<p>- Larry W/HB</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/how-democrats-are-attempting-to-steal-a-senate-seat/#comment-130972</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you agree with MNGramma who said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;People here are talking about the new votes showing up all in Franken’s favor. Not just Republicans, even Democrats find it suspicious. Even strangers in the grocery store checkout line start talking about it!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And you have some nerve pointing fingers at Ohio when it is abundantly clear that the Dems in Minnesota could teach folks in Ohio lessons.

Can you say hypocrite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you agree with MNGramma who said:</p>
<blockquote><p>People here are talking about the new votes showing up all in Franken’s favor. Not just Republicans, even Democrats find it suspicious. Even strangers in the grocery store checkout line start talking about it!</p></blockquote>
<p>And you have some nerve pointing fingers at Ohio when it is abundantly clear that the Dems in Minnesota could teach folks in Ohio lessons.</p>
<p>Can you say hypocrite?</p>
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		<title>By: Real American Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/how-democrats-are-attempting-to-steal-a-senate-seat/#comment-130964</link>
		<dc:creator>Real American Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,
I have to agree with MNGramma here. 
There is very little chance that MN is facing voter fraud in this case.
Minnesota does have some really good checks and balances in the process. You are clearly barking up the wrong tree. 

Each vote will beginning next week be counted by hand. In Minnesota we do have a paper trail of all votes.  (unlike many states where votes cannot be verified) 

That is where I suspect more voter fraud occurs in this country. It&#039;s to easy to hack those voting machines and there is no way to check such votes for fraud. I suspect Ohio 2004, can you say Diebold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
I have to agree with MNGramma here.<br />
There is very little chance that MN is facing voter fraud in this case.<br />
Minnesota does have some really good checks and balances in the process. You are clearly barking up the wrong tree. </p>
<p>Each vote will beginning next week be counted by hand. In Minnesota we do have a paper trail of all votes.  (unlike many states where votes cannot be verified) </p>
<p>That is where I suspect more voter fraud occurs in this country. It&#8217;s to easy to hack those voting machines and there is no way to check such votes for fraud. I suspect Ohio 2004, can you say Diebold?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/how-democrats-are-attempting-to-steal-a-senate-seat/#comment-130877</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If a Republican tried this sort of thing there would be hell to pay.&quot; (Mike)

Of course, because leftist Dems are violent, they are fascist.   And they think that it is the Republicans that are like that... lol

Boy!   The Democrats think they are open-minded; nothing is so far away from truth.   Republicans are open-minded educated people and they are the only ones who have values.   Democrats stink!   The words &quot;Democrat&quot; and &quot;liberal&quot; does not apply to them at all.   It should be change to &quot;leftist&quot; and &quot;close-minded&quot; idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a Republican tried this sort of thing there would be hell to pay.&#8221; (Mike)</p>
<p>Of course, because leftist Dems are violent, they are fascist.   And they think that it is the Republicans that are like that&#8230; lol</p>
<p>Boy!   The Democrats think they are open-minded; nothing is so far away from truth.   Republicans are open-minded educated people and they are the only ones who have values.   Democrats stink!   The words &#8220;Democrat&#8221; and &#8220;liberal&#8221; does not apply to them at all.   It should be change to &#8220;leftist&#8221; and &#8220;close-minded&#8221; idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/how-democrats-are-attempting-to-steal-a-senate-seat/#comment-130869</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yonason: For some stupid reason the folks on our side are too afraid to pursue these cases as the Dems have been so successful in insisting that any effort to curtail criminality is tantamount to vote suppression.

We saw that in the pre-election discussions of ACORN.

I agree that we need to fight this stuff LOUDLY and not just whisper about it.

As you say, Dems only do it because they know they can get away with it.

It&#039;s no coincidence that these recounts always seem to faovr Democrats.

If a Republican tried this sort of thing there would be hell to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yonason: For some stupid reason the folks on our side are too afraid to pursue these cases as the Dems have been so successful in insisting that any effort to curtail criminality is tantamount to vote suppression.</p>
<p>We saw that in the pre-election discussions of ACORN.</p>
<p>I agree that we need to fight this stuff LOUDLY and not just whisper about it.</p>
<p>As you say, Dems only do it because they know they can get away with it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no coincidence that these recounts always seem to faovr Democrats.</p>
<p>If a Republican tried this sort of thing there would be hell to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;What were your options?&quot;&lt;/em&gt; -- Craig

Like actually doing something instead of sitting back.  Mobilize your base, organize, get the word out.  They have doen NOTHING!  So of course we are loosing.  But it isn&#039;t hopeless, because Democrats still have to lie, cheat and steal covertly.  EXPOSE THEM!  But our &quot;leaders&quot; aren&#039;t leading.  If they did, this could have long ago been fixed, or at least reduced to a very managable size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;What were your options?&#8221;</em> &#8212; Craig</p>
<p>Like actually doing something instead of sitting back.  Mobilize your base, organize, get the word out.  They have doen NOTHING!  So of course we are loosing.  But it isn&#8217;t hopeless, because Democrats still have to lie, cheat and steal covertly.  EXPOSE THEM!  But our &#8220;leaders&#8221; aren&#8217;t leading.  If they did, this could have long ago been fixed, or at least reduced to a very managable size.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/how-democrats-are-attempting-to-steal-a-senate-seat/#comment-130851</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It could have been fixed. We didn’t try hard enough.&quot; (Yonason)

Like doing what?   Goliath against David!   Not so easy.   What were your options?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It could have been fixed. We didn’t try hard enough.&#8221; (Yonason)</p>
<p>Like doing what?   Goliath against David!   Not so easy.   What were your options?</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all the coincidences favor one side over the other, that&#039;s a sure sign of fraud.
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/11/09/minnesota-democrats-trying-to-steal-senate-election.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all the coincidences favor one side over the other, that&#8217;s a sure sign of fraud.<br />
<a href="http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/11/09/minnesota-democrats-trying-to-steal-senate-election.php" rel="nofollow">http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/11/09/minnesota-democrats-trying-to-steal-senate-election.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig

It could have been fixed.  We didn&#039;t try hard enough.  And every time we do nothing they get more control.  We will only have lost when they are completely in control, and prevent us from resisting them. Till then, it&#039;s our fault for doing nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig</p>
<p>It could have been fixed.  We didn&#8217;t try hard enough.  And every time we do nothing they get more control.  We will only have lost when they are completely in control, and prevent us from resisting them. Till then, it&#8217;s our fault for doing nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;&quot;Anyone else notice that these kinds of voter irregularities almost never favor Republicans?&quot;&lt;/B&gt;

I&#039;ve been seeing this exposed every 4 years, and no sooner than it&#039;s exposed, then everyone goes back to sleep.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&#039;How Democrats
steal elections&#039;&lt;/b&gt;
Veterans of hand recounts describe techniques used to change outcome

[origianlly]Posted: November 13, 2000
1:00 am Eastern

By Jon E. Dougherty and David Kupelian
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

&quot;Nolan and Haueter said Downs described three basic tactics:

    * &quot;The first rule is, you keep counting until you&#039;re ahead. And if that doesn&#039;t put you ahead, you recount, re-recount -- you keep counting until you&#039;re ahead. If you&#039;re behind, then you&#039;ve got nothing to lose.&quot;

    * Second, Nolan said, &quot;the more times those ballots are handled, the more chance there is that chads will break loose&quot; and hence disqualify the ballot.

    * Third, he said, &quot;the minute you&#039;re ahead, you stop and declare yourself the victor.&quot;

&quot;After that, you don&#039;t want the ballots handled any more,&quot; Nolan said, &quot;because some of the chads for your candidate might break loose. While you&#039;re behind it doesn&#039;t matter, but if you&#039;re ahead and more break off or become disqualified for your candidate, that&#039;s a bad thing.&quot;

A favorite tactic, said Nolan, is to ask election officials for ballots, &quot;allegedly so they can look at it more closely.&quot; When operatives do, often they will bend or crinkle ballots covertly in an effort to break another chad loose and thus have the ballot thrown out. &quot;

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17718
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whoever was paying attention knows that is what they were doing with those ballots in Florida when Gore tried to steal the election from Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;Anyone else notice that these kinds of voter irregularities almost never favor Republicans?&#8221;</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been seeing this exposed every 4 years, and no sooner than it&#8217;s exposed, then everyone goes back to sleep.</p>
<blockquote><p><b>&#8216;How Democrats<br />
steal elections&#8217;</b><br />
Veterans of hand recounts describe techniques used to change outcome</p>
<p>[origianlly]Posted: November 13, 2000<br />
1:00 am Eastern</p>
<p>By Jon E. Dougherty and David Kupelian<br />
© 2008 <a href="http://WorldNetDaily.com" title="http://WorldNetDaily.com" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">WorldNetDaily.com&#8230;</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Nolan and Haueter said Downs described three basic tactics:</p>
<p>    * &#8220;The first rule is, you keep counting until you&#8217;re ahead. And if that doesn&#8217;t put you ahead, you recount, re-recount &#8212; you keep counting until you&#8217;re ahead. If you&#8217;re behind, then you&#8217;ve got nothing to lose.&#8221;</p>
<p>    * Second, Nolan said, &#8220;the more times those ballots are handled, the more chance there is that chads will break loose&#8221; and hence disqualify the ballot.</p>
<p>    * Third, he said, &#8220;the minute you&#8217;re ahead, you stop and declare yourself the victor.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;After that, you don&#8217;t want the ballots handled any more,&#8221; Nolan said, &#8220;because some of the chads for your candidate might break loose. While you&#8217;re behind it doesn&#8217;t matter, but if you&#8217;re ahead and more break off or become disqualified for your candidate, that&#8217;s a bad thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>A favorite tactic, said Nolan, is to ask election officials for ballots, &#8220;allegedly so they can look at it more closely.&#8221; When operatives do, often they will bend or crinkle ballots covertly in an effort to break another chad loose and thus have the ballot thrown out. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17718" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17718</a>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Whoever was paying attention knows that is what they were doing with those ballots in Florida when Gore tried to steal the election from Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/how-democrats-are-attempting-to-steal-a-senate-seat/#comment-130845</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yonason,

It cannot be fixed because the people who are behind that are too powerful.   They are the extreme leftist associations that helped Obama to become President.   Acorn, Ayers and all those miserable despicable people.   With the Democrat trifecta in the White House don&#039;t count on them to fix it, they are part of it.   It would take someone like Sarah to get rid of all that leftist corruption that is crumbling your country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yonason,</p>
<p>It cannot be fixed because the people who are behind that are too powerful.   They are the extreme leftist associations that helped Obama to become President.   Acorn, Ayers and all those miserable despicable people.   With the Democrat trifecta in the White House don&#8217;t count on them to fix it, they are part of it.   It would take someone like Sarah to get rid of all that leftist corruption that is crumbling your country.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have know about how they steal elections in detail, and for a VERY LONG TIME!  

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/

http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud

http://www.nodnc.com/modules.php?name=Content&amp;pa=list_pages_categories&amp;cid=24

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/duke/050819

So, my question is, WHY HAVEN&#039;T WE BEEN DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT?

As I read on another blog, Democrats steal elections because ...
(1) no one will stop them,  and ...
(2) they need to in order to win.  

After the debacle of 2000, I thought for sure something would be done, but it wasn&#039;t.  After 2004 and the shenannigans kept up, and in some cases got a lot worse, still nothing.  And now, in 2008 the fruit of our inaction is Barack HUSSEIN Obama, and Old Joe Baldilocks.  So, don&#039;t anyone start talking about how we&#039;re going to turn this around in 2012 unless you have a plan to fix what we&#039;ve been doing wrong for a lot longer than the past 8 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have know about how they steal elections in detail, and for a VERY LONG TIME!  </p>
<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/" rel="nofollow">http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud" rel="nofollow">http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nodnc.com/modules.php?name=Content&amp;pa=list_pages_categories&amp;cid=24" rel="nofollow">http://www.nodnc.com/modules.php?name=Content&amp;pa=list_pages_categories&amp;cid=24</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/duke/050819" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/duke/050819</a></p>
<p>So, my question is, WHY HAVEN&#8217;T WE BEEN DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT?</p>
<p>As I read on another blog, Democrats steal elections because &#8230;<br />
(1) no one will stop them,  and &#8230;<br />
(2) they need to in order to win.  </p>
<p>After the debacle of 2000, I thought for sure something would be done, but it wasn&#8217;t.  After 2004 and the shenannigans kept up, and in some cases got a lot worse, still nothing.  And now, in 2008 the fruit of our inaction is Barack HUSSEIN Obama, and Old Joe Baldilocks.  So, don&#8217;t anyone start talking about how we&#8217;re going to turn this around in 2012 unless you have a plan to fix what we&#8217;ve been doing wrong for a lot longer than the past 8 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/how-democrats-are-attempting-to-steal-a-senate-seat/#comment-130831</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful Larry... agreeing with conservatives can be habit forming.

MNGramma: Don&#039;t be shy about commenting as often as you like. I only bite liberals so you don&#039;t need to worry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful Larry&#8230; agreeing with conservatives can be habit forming.</p>
<p>MNGramma: Don&#8217;t be shy about commenting as often as you like. I only bite liberals so you don&#8217;t need to worry.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Weisenthal</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/how-democrats-are-attempting-to-steal-a-senate-seat/#comment-130819</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Weisenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want to take another relatively rare opportunity to agree.

This appears to be a rather blatant case of vote tampering on the part of Democratic partisans.

- Larry W/HB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to take another relatively rare opportunity to agree.</p>
<p>This appears to be a rather blatant case of vote tampering on the part of Democratic partisans.</p>
<p>- Larry W/HB</p>
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		<title>By: MnGramma</title>
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		<dc:creator>MnGramma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Msg I posted to Mikes America maybe stuck in spam?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Msg I posted to Mikes America maybe stuck in spam?</p>
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