Obama Plans to Bring Back Slavery Through Required “Volunteerism” – [Reader Post]

Indentured servitude … Wasn’t that outlawed along with slavery?

He needs someway of indoctrinating his brown shirt youth.

Indentured servants are the ideal way to do it

Jose–

It also clearly states “by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year”

—last I checked, require means you have to do it — not much choice there.

I apologize, I did not realize you were still in middle school. I can see where you might have a problem doing community service in High School as well.

@Jose:

The age of the person being pressed into mandatory service is moot Jose.

The issue is that REQUIRED service is strictly prohibited by Amendment XIII of the US Constitution except when it is imposed as a penalty for a crime.

True volunteerism is a great thing for any and all ages who wish to do it.

Being pressed into service whether you want to or not isn’t a great thing.

Jose:

So you are apologizing?? Looks like your ‘apology’ has you scratching your lip with that middle finger at the same time, just like your hero….

@Jose:

What would you call being “REQUIRED” to do community service?

I call it a form of slavery.

You may not have a problem with a program which is a direct violation of the Constitution but I do.

Look, if we are going back to “Slavery” may be we can ask Obama to resurrect another fine old custom? That fine old custom would be “Hiring a Substitute for the Draft”.

Frankly, I read this an laughed. If he can get my two high school kids to get off there butts thru mandatory compulsive service that is okay with me. BTW, my kids high school (CA) already has a yearly requirement for comminity service. So, my boys will be VERY interested to see if the O’s new shtick will count toward their HS obligation. LOL!

Lincoln, through the Emancipation Proclamation, only freed the slaves in the states of which he was NOT then President, to wit, the Confederate States of America. Didn’t do diddly for slaves in NY state, Rhode Island, etc.

It was a PR stunt to tweak Jefferson Davis.

I don’t know if the website was changed, or if the original screenshot that aye chihuaha provided was a photoshop job, but it currently does not say anything about “requiring” service. I’m too tired to see if google has changelogs of the site, but this looks like a hype job. I’m no Obama defender, but if I’m going to argue his policies, I want to use accurate information.

From http://change.gov/americaserves/ (the same link aye chihuahu provided)

America Serves
“When you choose to serve — whether it’s your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood — you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That’s why it’s called the American dream.”
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.

@aye chihuahua

My bad, and my apologies. It WAS changed. I must be tired because I’m starting to think real conspiracies ARE just paranoia. I checked the google cache and the screen shot was right. As they say, just cuz you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean someone really isn’t out to get you.

google the the link you provided, then click on the cache link instead of the headline. They must have caught wind of attention and changed it just a short time ago.

Jose,

Hey girl, get use to your communist President, this is only the beginning. Women like you irritate me. Did you now that 66% of American women voted for the THE MESSIAH? Yes, 66% despite the fact that he treated Hillary and Sarah in the most despicable manners. Makes you wonder what these women are thinking.

Aye,

Don’t be surprised, most of the videos I had in reserve, magically disappeared from the Internet and specially the ones on You Tube. Only 3 days after his election he is starting to clean out the Net of everything that could affect is reign.

Craig that is proof to me that too many women want a “daddy” to take care of them. They thought they saw that in obama.

Hard Right, it’s obvious you don’t know the right women then Real women don’t faint, don’t want a “daddy” and can do anything they set their minds to. Those are the kind of women you really need to look for.

Fifty bucks says by the end of his first term, you guys will be criticizing him for saying “God Bless America”-”what ever happened to seperation of church and state?”.

I don’t get it. If there is a $4,000 attachment to it, than it is not a mandatory community service… it is a paid job. Words matters. Well paid job: $4,000 for 100 hours.

Happened to see this on O’s web site http://factcheck.barackobama.com/

“I want to campaign the same way I govern, which is to respond directly and forcefully with the truth,”
~ Barack Obama, 11/08/07

Chilling. Who’s truth and wonder what he means by “forcefully”?

Your right, and I just thought of something else, when in the heck has he ever governed?

@ Craig

Guess that just about guts that statement! LOL

This female voted for Palin =)

@ras:

What kind of truck did you just fall off of?

Apparently you missed what was plainly said on Obama’s site.

The word “REQUIRE” eliminates the whole idea of “volunteer”. This is like the Sesame Street game “Which of these things is not like the other?”

No, members of the US military and the PTA are not slaves. Don’t be absurd. They volunteered. Furthermore, servicemen and women get paid for the job that they volunteered for. That makes your example even more ridiculous.

Volunteerism, when truly voluntary, is an excellent ideal.

Forced, or REQUIRED, volunteerism is not volunteerism at all, but involuntary servitude at best, slavery at worst.

Are you willing to allow the gov’t to violate the 13th amendment by creating programs which REQUIRE you to participate in them?

If so, then I’m sure you’ll have no problem with the Obama administration when they begin to trample on the first and second amendments as well.

YMMV, but I am not willing to give one inch when it comes to the Constitution, original intent of the founding fathers, freedom, and liberty.

I am not a radical conspirator who believes we are all to be ensalved. That is like believing we never landed on the moon or that Obama is a member of a white supremist group. To believe that nonsense is absolutely hurting yourself with inside deliusion. What the heck is with you? However I do realize I did the same thing after Bush was first appointed the presidency and looked for every thing bad in him and actually believed he was in favor of the new world order his dad spoke of. Then with the second term I became very afraind for our nation’s security in the hands of incompetence. So with that I do indeed understand your thought process and can assure you it beocmes easier. The only difference here is that Bush lived up to the negativity he so dearly enforced on the people. The change in our legal rights, the wanting to alter the constitution regarding the burning of the flag, the unwillingness to listen to the real experts such as Powell, McCain etc.
My case of dislike was vindicated as Bush left office with the nation packing his bags for him. The overwhelming victory of Obama will indeed feed fear into the hearts on the tunnel visioned people who continue to believe in their selective government and hear only what they wish to hear. To actually believe we are to be enslaved by Obama and then see the country vote to be enslaved may add light to your dark world.

Why is it that people are so willing to consign other people’s children to compulsory labor? Middle school is grade 6 through 8 or 9, and high school covers grades 9 or 10 through grade 12 (10 years through 18 years old all told). Children are way too over committed now – the last thing they need is to be charged with even more obligations, let alone indoctrination. God knows the school day is way too full of social agendas and far too little actual knowledge as it is. As for college students, they are adults. Paying adults, who are contracting for an education – and no one has a right to force them to give time to some unknown collective agenda. When I was in college I had time for work and time for study – and darn little else. Forcing an adult to work for free or for pay – against his or her will, is a form of slavery. As for those who argue that the government subsidizes college education and can made such demands, well, far better and far cheaper educations were available prior to so much government monetary contamination. But if government money is an excuse for compulsory labor, then freedom is lost-Federal government money taints everything. Absolutely everything. Think carefully, for once freedom, any freedom, is gone – it may not be back, ever.

@Cary:

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