Obama Youth Brigades?

HAIL OBAMA!

I saw this a few days ago and the spam filter kept eating the posts. Notice they say Obama helped them become something as if he just snapped his fingers and it was so.

Notice they say Obama helped them become something as if he just snapped his fingers and it was so.

Well, no.

They say that he “inspired” them to “be the next” whatever it is they want to be when they grow up. Whether or not you like the idea of it, there are many people who find inspiration in the fact that a black man will likely be the next president of the United States. Would that all our leaders could be inspirational.

Second, this is a step team. Step teams have been around for a long time, and they have nothing to do with the Hitler youth movement.

“During the mid-20th century, traditionally Black fraternities and sororities on United States college campuses traditionally sang and chanted to celebrate “crossing over” into membership of their respective organizations. Notwithstanding its collegiate roots, stepping is also performed by schools, churches, cheerleading squads and drill teams.”

I could continue for 10 pages of what this Obama is all about… but I guess that by now, you’ve got my point.

Yes, I suppose you could. All of it, however, would be off the topic of my post. Gregory Dittman described what they were saying as, “Notice they say Obama helped them become something as if he just snapped his fingers and it was so.” That’s not at all what they say, and I was pointing that out. I’m not saying anything one way or the other about whether Obama in particular should inspire them, although I did mention that it would be nice for our leaders to be inspirational.

We don’t need no stinking reasons, were Obambi’s army. Seems I heard all this before, Seig heil. History means nothing unless you learn from it. it’s obvious some pay no attention to it, and that is not only scary, it’s suicidal.

I’ve checked the list that Dave Noble provided three times and, for the life of me, I have been unable to find a single person in there who consorted with, was close friends with, and worked for a person who bombed the Pentagon and the Capitol.

I also don’t find anyone in that list who sat for 20 plus years in a church pew every Sunday while someone like Jerry Wright was spewing hate.

There’s also not a person in your list who has accepted campaign money from foreign terror groups.

Perhaps I just missed that name, or perhaps your efforts at moral equivalence fail once again.

I’d bet on the latter.

Character calculator indeed.

Barrack Obama has never done anything in his life that would be inspirational to young blacks?

Not being the editor of the law review of one of the top five law schools in the country?

Not being a constitutional law professor for 12 years at what interestingly is one of the more conservative law schools in the country?

Not being a Illinois state senator who pushed through a law reguiring the videotaping of police station confessions? Which BTW is now the law in my state. And if you think that’s an anti-law and order requirement, I would suggest to you that it rather ensures that a jury can see the confession and not have a defense attorney make unfounded suggestions about what really took place at the station.

Not being a United States Senator who joined with Republican Senator Richard Lugar to co-sponsor a bill to expand the Nunn-Lugar program for monitoring nuclear stockpiles and keeping nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists?

Why, doggone, resumes like that are a dime a dozen.

Aye Chi,

Wrong on the “close friend” - “Friendly as in lived in the same neighborhood and their kids went to same schools” —-David Axelrod.

Substantiate the allegation of receiving campaign contributions from foreign terrorist groups.

Sorry to steer off-topic, but….

All men are flawed, Mata.

Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner.

How is that “a flaw”, other than by judging the 18th century by 20th and 21st century moral standards? Easy to do, today, armchaired by the distance of history.

Thomas Jefferson openly denounced slavery as a profound evil. To actually abolish slavery and free slaves was no simple task. In some places, it was legally impossible to do. Taking into consideration the context of the times that they lived in is vital to understanding why those who were against slavery were often at odds with the abolitionists, let alone with a world that “grew up” on the institution of slavery.

Thomas Sowell (“The Real History of Slavery”, in Black Rednecks and White Liberals):

One of the early battles that was lost [in the anti-slavery sentiments growing amongst colonialists] was Jefferson’s first draft of the Declaration of Independence, which criticized King George III for having enslaved Africans and for over-riding colonial Virginia’s attempt to ban slavery. The Continental Congress removed that phrase under pressure from representatives from the South.

When Jefferson drafted a state constitution for Virginia in 1776, his draft included a clause prohibiting any more importation of slaves an, in 1783, Jefferson included in a new draft of a Virginia constitution a proposal for gradual emancipation of slaves. He was defeated in both these efforts. on the national scene, Jefferson returned to the battle once again in 1784, proposing a law declaring slavery illegal in all western territories of the country as it existed at the that time. Such a ban would have kept slavery out of Alabama and Mississippi. The bill lost by one vote, that of a legislator too sick to come and vote. Afterwards, Jefferson said that the fate “of millions unborn” was “hanging on the tongue of one man, and heaven was silent in that awful moment.”

Three years later, however, Congress compromised by passing the Northwest Ordinance, making slavery illegal in the upper western territories, while allowing it in the lower western territories. Congress was later authorized to ban the African slave trade and Jefferson, now President, urged that they use that authority to stop Americans “from all further participation in those violations of human rights which has been so long continued on the unoffending inhabitants of Africa. Congress followed his urging.

Abstract moral decisions are much easier to make on paper or in a classroom in later centuries than in the midst of the dilemmas actually faced by those living in very different circumstances, including serious dangers.

One way to understand the constraints of the times and their effects on public attitudes is to examine the difference between the way that many in nineteenth-century America saw the slave trade, as distinguished from the way that they saw slavery itself. If the institution of slavery and the presence of millions of slaves were facts of life, within which many decision-makers felt trapped by having inherited the consequences of decisions made by others in generations before them, the continuing trade in slaves, whether from Africa or within the United States, was a contemporary problem that was within their control. Thus, decades before slavery was abolished, the United States joined in the outlawing of the international slave trade. Even many Americans not yet ready to support the abolition of slavery as an institution nevertheless made the bringing of more slaves from Africa a capital offense in the United States.

The moral distinction between slave trading and the continuation of slavery as an institution might be hard for some in later centuries to understand because, in the abstract, there is no moral difference. Only in the concrete circumstances faced by the people of the times was there a practical social difference.

doug,

You totally missed the point. Or did you just skim what I wrote and what was blockquoted? Try putting yourself in the context of the times, and the social constraints of what was possible. Your casting moral judgment is anachronistic. Moral choices can be made only from options that are actually available to be made. More excerpts from Sowell’s Black Rednecks and White Liberals:

We cannot assume twenty-first century options, or even present-day knowledge, when judging decisions made in the 19th century. Nor can we assume that we have superior knowledge of the social realities of an earlier era that we never lived through, compared to the first-hand knowledge of those who confronted those realities daily and inescapably.

Moral Questions about slavery have been, almost exclusively, Western moral questions.. Non-Western societies had neither moral concerns about slavery nor, in most cases, the power to decide on the continuance or extinction of the institution for themselves during the era of European imperialism, when slavery was suppressed over most of the world by the West. Not only has the West’s crucial role in the destruction of slavery around the world gone largely unnoticed, standards applied almost exclusively to the West have been used to condemn European and European offshoot societies for having once had slavery.

Even those Western leaders who sought to end slavery are condemned by critics today for not having done it sooner or faster. The dangers and constraints of their times have too often been either ignored or brushed aside as mere excuses, as if elected leaders operating under the constitutional law could simply decree whatever they felt was right.

Even those slaveholders with aversions to slavery in principle were constrained by a strong tradition of stewardship, in which the family inheritance was not theirs to dispose of in their own lifetime, but to pass on to others as it had been passed on to them. George Washington was one of those who had inherited slaves and, dying childless, freed his slaves in his will, effective on the death of his wife. His will also provided that slaves too old or too beset with “bodily infirmities” to take care of themselves should be taken care of by his estate, and that the children were to be “taught to read and write” and trained for “some useful occupation”.

This is an important point to highlight, because some like Jefferson and Washington understood that simply freeing slaves without giving them the necessary tools and means to survive in society was more like abandonment than liberation. They did consider the possibility of sending freed slaves back to Africa. But the reality was, many of these slaves no longer had ties to Africa, either.

One concrete result of the back-to-Africa movement was the establishment of the colony of Liberia on the West African coast, to which freed American blacks were sent during the administration of James Monroe, for whom they named their capital Monrovia. These first settlers were decimated by African diseases to which they no longer had biological resistance- which was just one of the problems of trying to undo the past.

Frederick Douglass himself, refused the offer to be sent to Africa, seeing himself as an American.

[Washington's] estate in fact continued to pay for the support of some freed slaves for decades after his death, in accordance to his will.

The part of Washington’s will dealing with slaves filled almost three pages, and the tone as well as the length of it showed his concerns.

The language of the will was written in very legalistic terms; but when it came to speaking about what was to become of his slaves, he spoke with the passionate command of issuing an executive decree: “I do hereby expressly forbid the sale…of any Slave I may die possessed of, under any pretext whatsoever.”

“There is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of it.” Washington once said, in regards to slavery as a national issue. The moral question for him was easy; but how to carry it out with compassion and foresight planning was a complex matter. Only through legislation, did Washington see it as a realistic possibility to end the institution; and he said that the legislator who could achieve that, would get his vote.

During his public life, Washington was known to leave behind slaves he brought with him on his travels to the north, in effect, freeing them. His behavior as a slaveowner is also noted in Richard Brookhiser’s Founding Father:

Beginning in the early 1770’s, he rarely bought a slave and he would not sell one, unless the slave consented, which never happened. not selling slaves was an economic loss. Slave labor on a plantation with soil as poor as Mount Veronon brought in little or nothing…The only profit a man in his position would make was by selling slaves to states where agriculture was more flourishing. Washington would not. “I am principled against selling negroes as you would do cattle at a market…” From 1775 until his death, the slave population at Mount Vernon more than doubled.

Wordsmith, few drop bottom to an absolute and full cultural and historical anthropological construction of human morality than I. Yet, Jefferson and Washington cannot be equated to typical slave owners, being men of many means.

Obviously, I’m going to disagree with Sowell and many of his thoughts. (If you want to discuss his ideas after the election, I’ll be game then.)

Can’t have that sort of thing out there now, can we…! Looks like the poster might have been “caught”…guess Missouri has a lot of Obama supporters.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/06/middle-school-teacher-suspended-obama-frat-spat/

Gotta wonder about lots of things about this…the article says the teacher was sent a letter telling him not to post the video…why? who else received the letter? what did the letter say?
Is race a factor here? all the boys on the “team” are black, and the school is a charter school…is everybody there black? is the teacher? the superintendant? Given the comment about the coach who intends to vote for Obama based solely on his race, is that a factor here?

Don Ess,

You have forgotten to ask Dave about Obama and Odinga connections. That dictator in Kenya, where Obama went in 2006 with your tax money to help him win the election.

“What should Americans make of Mr. Obama’s Kenyan connection? If he has been putting tribal or family considerations above America’s national interest by supporting Mr. Odinga’s anti-Western candidacy, it raises serious questions about his judgement.

If Mr. Obama did not know about Mr. Odinga’s electoral deal with the Kenyan Islamists when he offered his support, then he should have known. If he did know, then he is guilty of lending the prestige of his office to America’s enemies in the global war on terror. We need to know exactly what Mr. Obama knew about Mr. Odinga, and precisely when he knew it.”

Read the rest:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/atlas-sighting.html

These look like the fat Albert Kids…… german hitler youth ?

Obama will make a geat president to me i dont care about some one he met when he was 8 so quite with the crying already all you pubican do his cry and wine you all make me laugh like your doing actual detective work and then listen to on air idiots about there personal live I dont give a heck about there personal business ass long as they can run this country who care what they do on there own time sorry for the fast write down but in a hurry LOL you all really make me laugh that you all gettin work up over this election crap who ever it is mckain a scare away from the heart attack rather have obama if he drop the ball atleast biden there for help sorry palin and her red lipstick can go home to me

Ummm…..

He didn’t meet Ayers when he was eight.

You really don’t have a clue do you?

Imagine how the Millhouse supporters will act if their canidate looses…………

maybe someone should put this on tv as a commercial. scary doesnt even come close.

if you love your personal and civil rights wake up and vote!!!

This is the scariest thing I’ve ever seen. We cannot let this man into the White House. We cannot.

Don Ess (#32),

Those 18 items in your list should make a perfect ad for McCain.

The title could be:
WHAT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW ABOUT OBAMA
Imagine viewers reading that list on TV as it would unroll?

Dave Noble’s Obama accomplishments:

Not being the editor of the law review of one of the top five law schools in the country?

This is an accomplishment, yes. Is it a swooner for anyone? I doubt any one of these kids idolizes Obama because he was an editor of an elite law rag.

Not being a constitutional law professor for 12 years at what interestingly is one of the more conservative law schools in the country?

I’m sorry… I didn’t realize Obama was the first black professor…. LOL I also didn’t realize professors had such world wide inspirational appeal.

Not being a Illinois state senator who pushed through … snip

Funny about that Obama IL state record. His correspondence and records are unavailable… destroyed, I hear. But according to most accounts, his record as a state Senator are about as listless and scant as his US record. Not much being touted on the campaign trail either.

Not being a United States Senator who joined with Republican Senator Richard Lugar to co-sponsor a bill to expand the Nunn-Lugar program for monitoring nuclear stockpiles and keeping nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists?

Oh, you mean the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction Act of 2005 that went to the Committee for Armed Services and was never heard from again? The same one that had 38 other sponsors, besides Obama and not including Lugar? This is what you’re giving him credit for?

That bill wasn’t designed to do anything but modify where they could use program funds. Are you under some impression it’s an accomplishment for any of the 40 bipartisan Senators? ANd where the heck did you get the notion that flipping around the program funds would “keep nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists”?? It’s a budget issue. Oh, and perhaps an over exaggerated Obama talking point. He doesn’t have much else to talk about.

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Now, compare Obama’s lackluster career with Clarence Thomas… another lawyer. Obama got out of school… sorta, as profs never really leave school… and tied himself up with the Chicago political machine and ACORN as a community organizer fundraiser.

Clarence Thomas was graduated from Yale, then became an Asst AG in Missouri. It seems the law firms didn’t want to take his Yale degree seriously because they thought it was just affirmative action. Obama, of course, did not have that problem in Harvard…. different era, different world. Hardly as “uphill”

But that hasn’t stopped Obama from complaining that America is not what it once was… good thing for his butt, or that law review editor gig wouldn’t have been.

A few years later, Thomas became Danforth’s Legislative Asst. After that, he was in Reagan’s Education Dept as Asst. Secy of Education for the Office of Civil Rights. And he did all that by the time he was 34 years old.

Where was Obama by that age? He was newbie fresh with ACORN training experience, and part of alegal support team defense in suing banks for redlining…. the perfect experience for getting tapped by fellow Woods Fund board member, William Ayers, to help funnel $160 mil of funds to political friends with the CAC money.

Thomas was four years younger than Obama is today when he was appointed to the SCOTUS. Today Obama’s riding the media wave frenzy with no notable experience but a good speech in 2004. He’s been a drive thru member in the IL Senate, and the same in the US Senate.

Inspiration has always been there for those that were looking. It just didn’t come packaged in flash and rock star stage settings. ANd I find it sad that someone like Thomas can be discarded, and an empty suit like Obama becomes an idol.

Other than that, I agree with “what the”… it’s good these kids are inspired and have some direction. I’m just sorry they think they couldn’t do it without Obama. Fact is, they never needed him. There were so many around with far more to offer.

I do not need a marxist like obama to inspire me. god can do that. the marxist obama with other people’s money can rent people to say and do any thing that he want them to say or do.
then they can go out and buy them some more crack with the money.

I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR THE LONGEST TIME!!! PEOPLE — LISTEN!!! CANT FOLKS SEE BY GIVING THE FAR LEFT DEMOCRATS THE PRESIDENCY AND A FILIBUSTER PROOF CONGRESS IS THE EQUAL TO HOW HITLER BEGAN??? AND WHO THIS TIME WILL THEY PICK TO PERSECUTE ??? WHO NOW WILL SUFFER?

listen to this crap!!!!!!
Author: THE LIGHT
Comment:
ARE ALL OF YOU SERIOUS WITH YOUR IGNORANT RHETORIC!!! THIS IS ACTUALLY CALLED STEPPING. IT’S IN THE OLD TRADITION WITHIN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY THAT IS UTILIZED IN FRATERNAL ORGANIZIONS AND THE LIKE. I CAN ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE WONDERFUL REBUPLICAN SPIN ON A TRADITION TO SIDE WITH THAT GREAT IMPOSTER OF A MAVERICK! THIS IS IGNORANCE AT IT’S FINEST!

DUH

AN OLD TRADITION—FROM WHO??? HITLER YOUTH SQUADS !!!
WE HAVE AMERICAN TRADITIONS —- WE DONT NEED ANY ETHNIC TRADITIONS!!!!
WE ARE ALL AMERICANS AND ONLY LIBS LOVE TO DIVIDE US

I’M SORRY PROFESSOR. SOMEHOW I OVERLOOKED A MINOR GRAMMATICAL ERROR. THE ESSENCE OF STEPPING INCLUDES CHANTING. I UNDERSTAND HOW THIS MAY BE A LITTLE INTIMIDATING FOR YOU AND CHET ESPECIALLY, WHO DOESN’T NEED ANY ETHNIC TRADITIONS!

WELL CHET, IF WE DO NOT NEED ANY ETHNIC TRADITIONS, YOU DO NOT NEED AMERICA APPARENTLY! HAVE YOU HAD ANY ITALIAN DISHES LATELY? SOME CHINESE TAKEOUT MAYBE? RIDE A RAILROAD LATELY? WEAR ANY CLOTHING MADE OF COTTON? THE FABRIC OF THIS COUNTRY IS BUILT ON A MULTITUDE OF ETHNICITIES. MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE A GANDER AT THE PICTURE POSTED BELOW THE YOUTUBE CLIP. DOES IT LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU? AMOST LIKE LOOKING INTO A MIRROR, HUH?

Light, that should be “I’m sorry COMMA professor” unless you’re trying to say you are a sorry professor. BUT I do agree 100% with you about the fabric of this great country being built on a multitude of ethnicities. As you know, a great deal of what makes our country unique (and great) comes from that diversity. Compare the benefits and freedom we enjoy as Americans with a culture where there is allowed just one ethnicity, oh, let’s say, as in every Muslim country? Do not fool yourself with the thought that Lil’ Barry Hussein Obama has forsaken his Muslim roots. He has too many unexplained (and mainstream media-ignored) ties with shady Muslims. Or does that not bother you? Do you know how he got into Harvard Law School?
Let me tell you. He had the assistance of Khalid Al-Mansour, a Black Muslim and Black Nationalist, a mentor to the founders of the Black Panther party.

Btw, the FEC asked the Obama campaign to verify a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified as “Will, Good” from Austin, Texas. Mr. Goodwill made more than 1,000 contributions of $25 with the same credit card. “Pro Doodad” also gave similar contributions, as did many, many others. There are 11,500 listed contributions of more than $34 million from Iran, Saudi Arabia and Middle Eastern countries. Any of THAT bother you?

Can any of you posters affix a time, or date to this very chilling video clip.

Yeah,

Obama inspired them the same way Reverend Wright inspired him! Maybe they are students from one of the schools that Obama funded with William Ayres!

Here’s what aired on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 last night.

If the left leaning CNN can find this much damning info, one can only imagine how much more remains that they wouldn’t air.

Some of the things said by Mark Levin and others on this site, and the radio station, (WMAL, D.C.),
I listen to sometime each day, are racist comments. Hannity, Limbaugh, etc., have been
assinating Senator Obama’s character since before this Presidential race began. And now it is
actually unbelievable some of the things I hear you guys say about this man. When all of you
conservatives say that Obama is friends with a terrorist, you are basically saying that Obama is
a TERRORIST. You all know that is not true. You say he attends a racist church. People go
to church to worship. What Reverend Wright has to say, and what you have to say about his
church, should be directed to Reverend Wright, and not Senator Obama.

You conservatives swear you are the MOST INTELLIGENT minds in the world.
You concervatives think you are the only ones that love this great country of America.
I am sure most liberals love this country as much if not more that all of you.
I am here to tell you that if you all are so intelligent, why aren’t YOU RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT ?

I am sick of all the garbage all of you guys spit out each day.

Here on this site you say that a bunch of kids in camoflage pants, supporting Obama is
“SCARY”. You need to get a grip. If you want to be afraid of something and publish it, you
should be putting some utube videos of those racist Skinheads para-military training. But,
I know, that probably does not frighten you.

Obama’s not scary, but the majority of you are. You pray for God not to elect someone you don’t like? Who are you to tell God what his will is? You call Obama un-American, yet sing praises of Palin who praised her husbands party that wanted to succeed from America, whose leader said he wouldn’t be buried under the US flag. Palin also praises a witch hunter who laid hands on her, this witch hunter drove out a poor woman in Africa for being ‘a witch’, thought we stopped that in Salem 300 years ago? This is your icon?

You guys then go on to question Obama’s background? McCain has so many skeletons in his closet it’s not funny, do yourself a favor and look up Keating 5. He ditched his wife after she was in an accident.

Palin saying Obama ‘pals around with terrorists’, a person at her rally calling for Obama’s death, you guys comparing him to Hitler? You guys are the most frightning thing about this country, those who refuse change and threaten it with violence, or slander it with lies.

Hahahahaahahaha. I think its true. All the black people voted for Obama because hes black. So itll happen.