Comments on: Shock and Awe: SarahCuda WON the Debate! http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:55:13 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117440 Mike's America Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:01:31 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117440 Doug knows that stuff is crap and yet he cannot help himself. Says alot about his credibility does it not? Maybe we should put up a poll here at Flopping Aces... It would have just as much validity as the stuff Doug is digging out of the drains. Doug knows that stuff is crap and yet he cannot help himself.

Says alot about his credibility does it not?

Maybe we should put up a poll here at Flopping Aces… It would have just as much validity as the stuff Doug is digging out of the drains.

]]> By: MataHarley http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117436 MataHarley Sat, 04 Oct 2008 04:53:42 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117436 I see you still suffer from that fetish for impatience, eh Doug? All the pundits and talking heads I hear say you won't see anything until at least Monday. Mike'sA, who also shares your poll passion, sez next Wednesday. Are you gonna annoy us every hour on the hour with somebody's premature numbers?? LOL I see you still suffer from that fetish for impatience, eh Doug?

All the pundits and talking heads I hear say you won’t see anything until at least Monday. Mike’sA, who also shares your poll passion, sez next Wednesday.

Are you gonna annoy us every hour on the hour with somebody’s premature numbers?? LOL

]]> By: doug1 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117435 doug1 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 04:46:00 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117435 The Kansas City Star rounds up the VP polls: <blockquote> Two additional polls to report: Survey USA Biden 51% Palin 32% Undecided 17% MediaCurves.com tracked independent voters, showing them breaking to Biden 67% to Palin 33%. Original report: Random and non-random polls for the vice presidential debate declare Biden the winner over Palin in the vice-presidential debate. Non-random (unscientific) polls on AOL and MSNBC web sites show Biden winning 48 to 45 and 78.6 to 18.9 respectively. Randomly selected subjects on three other polls also show Biden winning: CNN/Opinion Research Biden 51 Palin 36 CBS Biden 46 Palin 21 Fox Biden 61 Palin 39 ... </blockquote> http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2299 Post debates polls indicate Biden won, came away with higher ratings. Luntz was wrong, Palin did NOT get a "shift" in the polls, nor a bounce, "in the next 24 hours" for the campaign, as Luntz predicted. As a matter of fact, based on what we already have, I'll _predict_ the next Pres. tracking polls for Monday and Tuesday --prior the Tuesday evening's debate-- will have Obama's camp either further ahead, at +49, or will remain unchanged at 49. Either way, there will be no "shift" for the McCain campaign, no gain. Simply at this point, there is no evidence -none- that Palin's effort was, or will be, a game-changer. Luntz was simply wrong. The Kansas City Star rounds up the VP polls:

Two additional polls to report:

Survey USA Biden 51% Palin 32%
Undecided 17%

MediaCurves.com… tracked independent voters, showing them breaking to Biden 67% to Palin 33%.

Original report:
Random and non-random polls for the vice presidential debate declare Biden the winner over Palin in the vice-presidential debate.

Non-random (unscientific) polls on AOL and MSNBC web sites show Biden winning 48 to 45 and 78.6 to 18.9 respectively.

Randomly selected subjects on three other polls also show Biden winning:

CNN/Opinion Research Biden 51 Palin 36
CBS Biden 46 Palin 21
Fox Biden 61 Palin 39
…

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2299

Post debates polls indicate Biden won, came away with higher ratings. Luntz was wrong, Palin did NOT get a “shift” in the polls, nor a bounce, “in the next 24 hours” for the campaign, as Luntz predicted.

As a matter of fact, based on what we already have, I’ll _predict_ the next Pres. tracking polls for Monday and Tuesday –prior the Tuesday evening’s debate– will have Obama’s camp either further ahead, at +49, or will remain unchanged at 49. Either way, there will be no “shift” for the McCain campaign, no gain.

Simply at this point, there is no evidence -none- that Palin’s effort was, or will be, a game-changer. Luntz was simply wrong.

]]> By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117353 Mike's America Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:35:16 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117353 Doug: I'll tell you on Wednesday. Doug: I’ll tell you on Wednesday.

]]> By: doug1 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117343 doug1 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:33:15 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117343 Yeah, Mike, I'm interested in them too. Yet, you posted the video of Luntz's statements. I'm simply watching where he is getting his information for such a claim. Yeah, Mike, I’m interested in them too.

Yet, you posted the video of Luntz’s statements. I’m simply watching where he is getting his information for such a claim.

]]> By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117328 Mike's America Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:08:41 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117328 Doug: The only polls I am interested in seeing right now are the three day rolling average tracking polls put out by Gallup and Rasmussen. They only begun post-debate polling today and won't give a full report until Monday. I'll give them one or two more days to work out the weekend blips which are a bit unreliable and hope to see something more solid by Wednesday. The state by state polls typically follow the trend in the national tracking polls. Doug: The only polls I am interested in seeing right now are the three day rolling average tracking polls put out by Gallup and Rasmussen. They only begun post-debate polling today and won’t give a full report until Monday. I’ll give them one or two more days to work out the weekend blips which are a bit unreliable and hope to see something more solid by Wednesday.

The state by state polls typically follow the trend in the national tracking polls.

]]> By: doug1 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117325 doug1 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:57:50 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117325 Just saw Luntz on FOX a few minutes ago... He was saying 'the numbers are really looking good for Palin ...that in a couple of hours we will have more information, but now it appears she's getting a pop in the polls.' Of course, there was no mention of the "polls" he was referring to, just a consistent harping of her 'numbers looking good.' As more polls are laid out in the next hour or so, for the 6.30 news cycle, keep in mind the names of those polls Luntz is talking about. Here's another one he can't use: http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/ Just saw Luntz on FOX a few minutes ago…

He was saying ‘the numbers are really looking good for Palin …that in a couple of hours we will have more information, but now it appears she’s getting a pop in the polls.’

Of course, there was no mention of the “polls” he was referring to, just a consistent harping of her ‘numbers looking good.’

As more polls are laid out in the next hour or so, for the 6.30 news cycle, keep in mind the names of those polls Luntz is talking about.

Here’s another one he can’t use:
http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/

]]> By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117313 Mike's America Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:15:38 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117313 Yes, how dare I believe what I say.... I should always listen to you because YOU are NEVER WRONG! Yes, how dare I believe what I say…. I should always listen to you because YOU are NEVER WRONG!

]]> By: Fit fit http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117309 Fit fit Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:02:07 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117309 It's meant as a warning, not an insult... It’s meant as a warning, not an insult…

]]> By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117307 Mike's America Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:47:13 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117307 Fit Fit: Thanks for reminding me why it is such a mistake to agree with you on anything. No class FF! Fit Fit: Thanks for reminding me why it is such a mistake to agree with you on anything.

No class FF!

]]> By: Craig http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117281 Craig Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:09:09 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117281 Palin says she doesn't wan't to get out of Michigan. DO WE HAVE TO? http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html Palin says she doesn’t wan’t to get out of Michigan.

DO WE HAVE TO?
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html

]]> By: Craig http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117273 Craig Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:54:35 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117273 The DRUGE report: WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE? http://www.drudgereport.com/ PALIN: 70% (329, 729) BIDEN: 28% (134, 618) EITHER: 2% (8, 681) The DRUGE report:

WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?
http://www.drudgereport.com/

PALIN: 70% (329, 729)

BIDEN: 28% (134, 618)

EITHER: 2% (8, 681)

]]> By: Fit fit http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117270 Fit fit Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:42:45 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117270 But you are often foolish enough to believe your own hype... But you are often foolish enough to believe your own hype…

]]> By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117269 Mike's America Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:40:24 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117269 H.R. The folks here have been on to his game since the get go. Not too many of us are foolish enough to allow ourselves to be manipulated by our opponents. H.R. The folks here have been on to his game since the get go. Not too many of us are foolish enough to allow ourselves to be manipulated by our opponents.

]]> By: Hard Right http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/shock-and-awe-sarahcuda-won-the-debate/#comment-117268 Hard Right Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:38:16 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=9673#comment-117268 Remember folks, Doug's mission here is to obfusicate and discourage. Shut out the troll voice and vote McCain. Remember folks, Doug’s mission here is to obfusicate and discourage. Shut out the troll voice and vote McCain.

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