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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/01/kids-for-obama-sing-to-dear-leader-messiah/#comment-118715</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh he has been accused of plagiarism. There are several videos on youtube of him stealing speech rhetoric from Deval Patrick and others. Just type in the words Obama &amp; plagiarism and see how many hits there are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh he has been accused of plagiarism. There are several videos on youtube of him stealing speech rhetoric from Deval Patrick and others. Just type in the words Obama &amp; plagiarism and see how many hits there are.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Dittman</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/01/kids-for-obama-sing-to-dear-leader-messiah/#comment-117077</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Dittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More indoctrination.  Scroll down to the youtube video.  Notice they say Obama let them get where they want to be:
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2008/10/02/revealed_uk_ambassadors_verdict_on_barack_obama_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More indoctrination.  Scroll down to the youtube video.  Notice they say Obama let them get where they want to be:<br />
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2008/10/02/revealed_uk_ambassadors_verdict_on_barack_obama_</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Dittman</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/01/kids-for-obama-sing-to-dear-leader-messiah/#comment-117040</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Dittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another indoctrination video.  Notice the kids saying because of Obama they will be able to do this and that.  Scroll down to the Youtube video.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2008/10/02/revealed_uk_ambassadors_verdict_on_barack_obama_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another indoctrination video.  Notice the kids saying because of Obama they will be able to do this and that.  Scroll down to the Youtube video.<br />
<a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2008/10/02/revealed_uk_ambassadors_verdict_on_barack_obama_" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2008/10/02/revealed_uk_ambassadors_verdict_on_barack_obama_</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/01/kids-for-obama-sing-to-dear-leader-messiah/#comment-116880</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocky_B,

The link you have given us in your comment #27 is really worth reading.   Incredible!   Obama&#039;s campaign seems to be a copy/paste of Hitler&#039;s campaign.    The same tactics, the same words, the same hope of change, the same gesture... and the same financial situation in Germany than the one in the States now.
Obama&#039;s campaign is so alike, that I wonder how come he wasn&#039;t accused of plagia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocky_B,</p>
<p>The link you have given us in your comment #27 is really worth reading.   Incredible!   Obama&#8217;s campaign seems to be a copy/paste of Hitler&#8217;s campaign.    The same tactics, the same words, the same hope of change, the same gesture&#8230; and the same financial situation in Germany than the one in the States now.<br />
Obama&#8217;s campaign is so alike, that I wonder how come he wasn&#8217;t accused of plagia?</p>
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		<title>By: Mundy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t believe the libs.... they make me sick... and this is clearly exploitation of children.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailyantikos.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Daily AntiKos&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t believe the libs&#8230;. they make me sick&#8230; and this is clearly exploitation of children.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailyantikos.com" rel="nofollow">The Daily AntiKos</a></p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoot, my post is in the filter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoot, my post is in the filter.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/01/kids-for-obama-sing-to-dear-leader-messiah/#comment-116752</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder  if these parents have thought ahead to if Obama isn&#039;t the one chosen to as Wordsmith said:

&quot;What I found particularly nauseating, is liberal indoctrination in those videos. The idea that Barack will end war, famine, and dis-ease; that he will unite the country and the planet under a banner of peace and prosperity in our times, and we’ll be able to prance through gumdrop forests and giant daffodils; and dance with fuzzy bunnies and frolic through perpetual sunshine.&quot;

The event and the promises in the song was over the top, the influence it obviously had on these children could be problematic come January 20.  I hope these children will have a smooth adjustment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder  if these parents have thought ahead to if Obama isn&#8217;t the one chosen to as Wordsmith said:</p>
<p>&#8220;What I found particularly nauseating, is liberal indoctrination in those videos. The idea that Barack will end war, famine, and dis-ease; that he will unite the country and the planet under a banner of peace and prosperity in our times, and we’ll be able to prance through gumdrop forests and giant daffodils; and dance with fuzzy bunnies and frolic through perpetual sunshine.&#8221;</p>
<p>The event and the promises in the song was over the top, the influence it obviously had on these children could be problematic come January 20.  I hope these children will have a smooth adjustment.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>youtube killed off the videolink: This one works though:
http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40860

Oh and for a humorous parody see this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLprurE7EVI&amp;eurl=http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2394</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>youtube killed off the videolink: This one works though:<br />
<a href="http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40860" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40860</a></p>
<p>Oh and for a humorous parody see this one:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLprurE7EVI&amp;eurl=http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2394" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLprurE7EVI&amp;eurl=http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2394</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/01/kids-for-obama-sing-to-dear-leader-messiah/#comment-116735</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes thanks for the link. That is what we are talking about. The blind support, empty promises, vague on the issues, the hero status, etceteras. The next page in the article is particularly poignant:
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/elect.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes thanks for the link. That is what we are talking about. The blind support, empty promises, vague on the issues, the hero status, etceteras. The next page in the article is particularly poignant:<br />
<a href="http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/elect.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/elect.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, my God, BuckerStreet, that article you just linked (#25),  simply gives goose pimples.    The story of the German Great Depression is identical to the USA crisis today... and then:  &quot;Hitler knew his time had come&quot;.

I suggest everyone reads this article... it is so identical, it&#039;s really scary.    And then Obama knew his time had come...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, my God, BuckerStreet, that article you just linked (#25),  simply gives goose pimples.    The story of the German Great Depression is identical to the USA crisis today&#8230; and then:  &#8220;Hitler knew his time had come&#8221;.</p>
<p>I suggest everyone reads this article&#8230; it is so identical, it&#8217;s really scary.    And then Obama knew his time had come&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BukerStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>BukerStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Example

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/begins.htm

I would quote it - but the sites terms of use do not allow it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Example</p>
<p><a href="http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/begins.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/begins.htm</a></p>
<p>I would quote it &#8211; but the sites terms of use do not allow it <img src='http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BukerStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>BukerStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The contrast with conservatives really doesn’t work as well in the context of the time period I mentioned.

I don’t “indoctrinate” my children – and I have been a father to seven.  I have imparted ethics and moral principles on them, while giving them a freedom of choice.  2 of my children are independents, 3 democrats, and 2 are still under 18.  I love them just the same.  I am a “landmark” Baptist at heart – but my children have all found their own niches/beliefs as adults – and I still love them the same.

&lt;blockquote&gt;How many of us sometimes complain about how much we wish young people took a more active (not activist) role in being informed on American history, government, geography, and yes, politics? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Add world history, religion and change politics to political history/theory – that’s about where I am with my wishes.  My BIG DEAL is teaching my children to THINK for themselves, be responsible, and be accountable for their actions.  Other things as well – but those are the big ones.

In my book – it’s fair to expose children to politics only if you allow them to see all the sides in a fair manner and allow them to form their own opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The contrast with conservatives really doesn’t work as well in the context of the time period I mentioned.</p>
<p>I don’t “indoctrinate” my children – and I have been a father to seven.  I have imparted ethics and moral principles on them, while giving them a freedom of choice.  2 of my children are independents, 3 democrats, and 2 are still under 18.  I love them just the same.  I am a “landmark” Baptist at heart – but my children have all found their own niches/beliefs as adults – and I still love them the same.</p>
<blockquote><p>How many of us sometimes complain about how much we wish young people took a more active (not activist) role in being informed on American history, government, geography, and yes, politics? </p></blockquote>
<p>Add world history, religion and change politics to political history/theory – that’s about where I am with my wishes.  My BIG DEAL is teaching my children to THINK for themselves, be responsible, and be accountable for their actions.  Other things as well – but those are the big ones.</p>
<p>In my book – it’s fair to expose children to politics only if you allow them to see all the sides in a fair manner and allow them to form their own opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and those on the left like to draw similar historical comparisons and relativism about Bushitler.

I think the photos Mike&#039;s America posted are over the top.  Certainly, I see some truth into the notions associating Obama with Marxism and socialism.  

How would the Hitler/dictator comparisons be (mis?)construed coming from the left, photoshopping/linking Bush, Palin, or McCain?

We all &quot;indoctrinate&quot; our children with our values and beliefs.  How many of us instill our brand of conservatism into our children?  

How many of us sometimes complain about how much we wish young people took a more active (not activist) role in being informed on American history, government, geography, and yes, politics?

At the age of 5-12, I agree that these kids really can&#039;t possibly know much better, and are only parroting what they&#039;ve been told and taught to believe about Obama.


What I found particularly nauseating, is &lt;i&gt;liberal&lt;/i&gt; indoctrination in those videos.  The idea that Barack will end war, famine, and dis-ease; that he will unite the country and the planet under a banner of peace and prosperity in our times, and we&#039;ll be able to prance through gumdrop forests and giant daffodils; and dance with fuzzy bunnies and frolic through perpetual sunshine.

That kind of naiveté will get us all killed.  It&#039;s grown ups instilling &quot;books not bombs&quot; and &quot;peace is patriotic&quot; bumpersticker, empty-headed nonsense.

I do agree that &quot;brainwashing&quot; children in general is a disservice, without getting children to actual apply critical thinking to the &quot;why&#039;s&quot; of what they are being taught, and understanding the flip side to arguments.



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In this case, I just really find it despicable to interject kids into politics.  Don&#039;t like it when I see them touted at rallies as &quot;supporters&quot; either... like they really know who&#039;d theyd&#039; vote for. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean like this:

&lt;center&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/CondorJoe2/political%20cartoons/BushMakesMeCry.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and those on the left like to draw similar historical comparisons and relativism about Bushitler.</p>
<p>I think the photos Mike&#8217;s America posted are over the top.  Certainly, I see some truth into the notions associating Obama with Marxism and socialism.  </p>
<p>How would the Hitler/dictator comparisons be (mis?)construed coming from the left, photoshopping/linking Bush, Palin, or McCain?</p>
<p>We all &#8220;indoctrinate&#8221; our children with our values and beliefs.  How many of us instill our brand of conservatism into our children?  </p>
<p>How many of us sometimes complain about how much we wish young people took a more active (not activist) role in being informed on American history, government, geography, and yes, politics?</p>
<p>At the age of 5-12, I agree that these kids really can&#8217;t possibly know much better, and are only parroting what they&#8217;ve been told and taught to believe about Obama.</p>
<p>What I found particularly nauseating, is <i>liberal</i> indoctrination in those videos.  The idea that Barack will end war, famine, and dis-ease; that he will unite the country and the planet under a banner of peace and prosperity in our times, and we&#8217;ll be able to prance through gumdrop forests and giant daffodils; and dance with fuzzy bunnies and frolic through perpetual sunshine.</p>
<p>That kind of naiveté will get us all killed.  It&#8217;s grown ups instilling &#8220;books not bombs&#8221; and &#8220;peace is patriotic&#8221; bumpersticker, empty-headed nonsense.</p>
<p>I do agree that &#8220;brainwashing&#8221; children in general is a disservice, without getting children to actual apply critical thinking to the &#8220;why&#8217;s&#8221; of what they are being taught, and understanding the flip side to arguments.</p>
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In this case, I just really find it despicable to interject kids into politics.  Don&#8217;t like it when I see them touted at rallies as &#8220;supporters&#8221; either&#8230; like they really know who&#8217;d theyd&#8217; vote for. </p></blockquote>
<p>You mean like this:</p>
<p><center><img src="http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/CondorJoe2/political%20cartoons/BushMakesMeCry.jpg" alt="" /></center></p>
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		<title>By: Yomi Mizuhara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yomi Mizuhara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BukerStreet is correct. Including the fact that the German people were displeased with the Weimar Republic for being, essentially, &quot;whipped&quot; by the Western powers. They were angry that they were losing their money, and that their government was not working for them. Then, Hitler comes along. 

I think another apt comparison could be with Mao Zedong as well. Cults of personality, the lot of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BukerStreet is correct. Including the fact that the German people were displeased with the Weimar Republic for being, essentially, &#8220;whipped&#8221; by the Western powers. They were angry that they were losing their money, and that their government was not working for them. Then, Hitler comes along. </p>
<p>I think another apt comparison could be with Mao Zedong as well. Cults of personality, the lot of them.</p>
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		<title>By: BukerStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>BukerStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense - but their are a lot of comparisons between Hitler and Obama if you look at Hitler prior to taking over Germany</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense &#8211; but their are a lot of comparisons between Hitler and Obama if you look at Hitler prior to taking over Germany</p>
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