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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts &amp; Reaction On Tonight&#8217;s Debate, Update: More Reaction</title>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115629</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, all the polls that you can show are completely irrelevant at this point. Whether from Fox or CNN or any other place you find them. Rachel explains perfectly the reason why in her comment #23 above:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Let’s face it, by now 85% of everybody has made up their minds. They either support one candidate/team or the other, and they will fight tooth and nail to tear down the opposition and/or defend their candidate of choice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And she&#039;s right. I know you watched the interviews of those who watched the debates, and if you turned to Fox for one second, you would have seen the two Obama-supporting women say: &quot;I think Obama was very articulate and didn&#039;t stutter once&quot; and &quot;McCain looked a little &#039;bumbly&#039;&quot;. This made me say, &quot;I&#039;m sorry, did we just watch the same debate?&quot; There are millions of videos of the debate and of Obama&#039;s behavior throughout the night that counters what those supporters say; you know it as well as anyone else here.

And those who vote in those polls are just like these two women; they&#039;re just going to glorify their candidate of choice, whether it&#039;s McCain or Obama. Unless all those polls are voted on by scholars, economists, and political scientists, those polls are irrelevant. There are people who support Obama just because he&#039;s a Democrat, not because of any policy reasons. I should know. My entire family (save for my own parents, thank God) thinks that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, all the polls that you can show are completely irrelevant at this point. Whether from Fox or CNN or any other place you find them. Rachel explains perfectly the reason why in her comment #23 above:</p>
<blockquote><p>Let’s face it, by now 85% of everybody has made up their minds. They either support one candidate/team or the other, and they will fight tooth and nail to tear down the opposition and/or defend their candidate of choice.</p></blockquote>
<p>And she&#8217;s right. I know you watched the interviews of those who watched the debates, and if you turned to Fox for one second, you would have seen the two Obama-supporting women say: &#8220;I think Obama was very articulate and didn&#8217;t stutter once&#8221; and &#8220;McCain looked a little &#8216;bumbly&#8217;&#8221;. This made me say, &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, did we just watch the same debate?&#8221; There are millions of videos of the debate and of Obama&#8217;s behavior throughout the night that counters what those supporters say; you know it as well as anyone else here.</p>
<p>And those who vote in those polls are just like these two women; they&#8217;re just going to glorify their candidate of choice, whether it&#8217;s McCain or Obama. Unless all those polls are voted on by scholars, economists, and political scientists, those polls are irrelevant. There are people who support Obama just because he&#8217;s a Democrat, not because of any policy reasons. I should know. My entire family (save for my own parents, thank God) thinks that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Skye</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115590</link>
		<dc:creator>Skye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No move in the polls so far for Obama. I&#039;m not sure this draw of a debate will favor Obama.  

I did borrow the Newsies talking points and posted them on MidnightBlue, Curt.

If this was such a slam dunk for Obama, why the text messages imploring his legions of fans to watch the debate on CNN, quickly followed by a second text message allowing the fans to watch it on whatever network they prefer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No move in the polls so far for Obama. I&#8217;m not sure this draw of a debate will favor Obama.  </p>
<p>I did borrow the Newsies talking points and posted them on MidnightBlue, Curt.</p>
<p>If this was such a slam dunk for Obama, why the text messages imploring his legions of fans to watch the debate on CNN, quickly followed by a second text message allowing the fans to watch it on whatever network they prefer?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill C</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115556</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So today I took my dog to a swim event.  A local health club opens their outdoor pools to the dogs the last day before they drain and sanitize them for the winter.  You would think it would be a politics free zone, right?

Wrong.

So I&#039;m there pulling dogs out of the pool as they finish fetching the toys tossed in for them and some sow of a gal with a Obama shirt makes a comment to me akin to how the dogs flailing away at the pool edge trying to get out were like McCain and Palin somehow.  
I was flummoxed.
So I turn to her and asked with my brightest smile, &quot;Did you watch last nights debate?&quot;
&quot;Oh yes&quot; she replied.
I then enjoined her, &quot;I have to say I really agreed with Obama!  John McCain is right!&quot;
She stood there nodding in agreement for a second or two before her face went ashen Apparently thinking, &quot;OMG, it&#039;s one of THEM!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So today I took my dog to a swim event.  A local health club opens their outdoor pools to the dogs the last day before they drain and sanitize them for the winter.  You would think it would be a politics free zone, right?</p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m there pulling dogs out of the pool as they finish fetching the toys tossed in for them and some sow of a gal with a Obama shirt makes a comment to me akin to how the dogs flailing away at the pool edge trying to get out were like McCain and Palin somehow.<br />
I was flummoxed.<br />
So I turn to her and asked with my brightest smile, &#8220;Did you watch last nights debate?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Oh yes&#8221; she replied.<br />
I then enjoined her, &#8220;I have to say I really agreed with Obama!  John McCain is right!&#8221;<br />
She stood there nodding in agreement for a second or two before her face went ashen Apparently thinking, &#8220;OMG, it&#8217;s one of THEM!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TammyL</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115501</link>
		<dc:creator>TammyL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the debates last night with my daughter, who is 15 years old.  She is learning a little about politics through this coverage.  She being a naive one noticed and was upset by a habit of disrespect that Senator Obama directed towards Senator McCain throughout the entire debate.  That habit was Senator Obama continually referring to Senator McCain- a senior congressman and senator- as &quot;John, or Jim, or Uh.&quot; Very rarely did he address Senator McCain in this formal debate as Senator McCain.  However we noticed that Senator McCain always addressed Senator Obama as Senator Obama during the debate.  If he had addressed Senator by first name, I must have missed it.  I also noticed that none of the commentators even mentioned this deliberate or subconscious lack of respect for the senior statesman.  

Was Senator Obama properly instructed on the correct decorum of a presidential debate?

Maybe it was just me or the fact that my fifteen year old daughter noticed it and was upset but I am troubled that I have not seen any commentary on that.

Does anyone feel the way that I do?  Is he really ready for diplomatic endeavors if he can&#039;t really master diplomatic protocols during a presidental debate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the debates last night with my daughter, who is 15 years old.  She is learning a little about politics through this coverage.  She being a naive one noticed and was upset by a habit of disrespect that Senator Obama directed towards Senator McCain throughout the entire debate.  That habit was Senator Obama continually referring to Senator McCain- a senior congressman and senator- as &#8220;John, or Jim, or Uh.&#8221; Very rarely did he address Senator McCain in this formal debate as Senator McCain.  However we noticed that Senator McCain always addressed Senator Obama as Senator Obama during the debate.  If he had addressed Senator by first name, I must have missed it.  I also noticed that none of the commentators even mentioned this deliberate or subconscious lack of respect for the senior statesman.  </p>
<p>Was Senator Obama properly instructed on the correct decorum of a presidential debate?</p>
<p>Maybe it was just me or the fact that my fifteen year old daughter noticed it and was upset but I am troubled that I have not seen any commentary on that.</p>
<p>Does anyone feel the way that I do?  Is he really ready for diplomatic endeavors if he can&#8217;t really master diplomatic protocols during a presidental debate?</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115499</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOXNEWS:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
...
Analysts and voters were split over who technically won the tense debate Friday night at the University of Mississippi. Neither Barack Obama nor John McCain committed a major gaffe, and both delivered strong enough performances that each campaign confidently could declare victory.
...
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that&#039;s accurate.

I haven&#039;t seen &lt;em&gt;anywhere&lt;/em&gt;  FOX posting their &#039;text messaging survey&#039;, not in print, nor on the net.  They appear to backed away from it having any legitimacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOXNEWS:</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8230;<br />
Analysts and voters were split over who technically won the tense debate Friday night at the University of Mississippi. Neither Barack Obama nor John McCain committed a major gaffe, and both delivered strong enough performances that each campaign confidently could declare victory.<br />
&#8230;
</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that&#8217;s accurate.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen <em>anywhere</em>  FOX posting their &#8216;text messaging survey&#8217;, not in print, nor on the net.  They appear to backed away from it having any legitimacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Valentine</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115494</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MSM pundits in the tank for Obama are all declaring Obama won the debate. But the Nobama people texing for 2 hours on Fox gave thge real tally.....McCain 86% Obama 14%. I think that is about right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MSM pundits in the tank for Obama are all declaring Obama won the debate. But the Nobama people texing for 2 hours on Fox gave thge real tally&#8230;..McCain 86% Obama 14%. I think that is about right.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115492</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to the debate late, but watched the last 15 or 20 minutes.

What struck me was the groping for words and phrases by Obama.
It was like this was new ground to be tilled, but he could reuse old phrases if he could think of them fast enough.

To his credit, Obama wasn’t completely clueless, but on debating points, McCain blew Obama away. On details, McCain also had the lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to the debate late, but watched the last 15 or 20 minutes.</p>
<p>What struck me was the groping for words and phrases by Obama.<br />
It was like this was new ground to be tilled, but he could reuse old phrases if he could think of them fast enough.</p>
<p>To his credit, Obama wasn’t completely clueless, but on debating points, McCain blew Obama away. On details, McCain also had the lead.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115479</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;It was really surprising to me is that John McCain came in here with a disadvantage on the economy.&gt;&gt;

Did you see &quot;Quigley Down Under&quot;?  

&quot;I said I didn&#039;t much _care_ to use a .45....I didn&#039;t say I _couldn&#039;t_!&quot;

McCain said he doesn&#039;t feel he&#039;s very strong in economics.  Maybe that&#039;s because he knows enough to know there&#039;s a lot he _doesn&#039;t_ know.  Obama may not have reached that level of wisdom.  When has Obama ever stated that there&#039;s something he doesn&#039;t know about _anything_?

Given the economic crisis...how much do _you_ feel you know about economics???  Do you even understand the terms they toss around so blithely???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;It was really surprising to me is that John McCain came in here with a disadvantage on the economy.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Did you see &#8220;Quigley Down Under&#8221;?  </p>
<p>&#8220;I said I didn&#8217;t much _care_ to use a .45&#8230;.I didn&#8217;t say I _couldn&#8217;t_!&#8221;</p>
<p>McCain said he doesn&#8217;t feel he&#8217;s very strong in economics.  Maybe that&#8217;s because he knows enough to know there&#8217;s a lot he _doesn&#8217;t_ know.  Obama may not have reached that level of wisdom.  When has Obama ever stated that there&#8217;s something he doesn&#8217;t know about _anything_?</p>
<p>Given the economic crisis&#8230;how much do _you_ feel you know about economics???  Do you even understand the terms they toss around so blithely???</p>
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		<title>By: bill-tb</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115464</link>
		<dc:creator>bill-tb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had one adult and one fidgetty un-presidential man-child. 

The admiral kicked his butt.

Who do you want answer that 3AM call ?? It sure isn&#039;t Obama, he would place it on call forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had one adult and one fidgetty un-presidential man-child. </p>
<p>The admiral kicked his butt.</p>
<p>Who do you want answer that 3AM call ?? It sure isn&#8217;t Obama, he would place it on call forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115454</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t truly believe anyone is undecided. The Frank Luntz focus groups are retarded. Fox and Drudge are the biggest. What you can see is a mis-match of character here. JM is a man of principles. Those who aren&#039;t will side with Obamabi, plain and simple. You see most of Obamabi&#039;s supporters are not rooted in anything of importance. I&#039;m sorry, but thats what I have experienced. I spoke to a young man who said he didn&#039;t like Palin and I asked him to name 2 things that you don&#039;t like, he couldn&#039;t. That&#039;s my point! I spoke to a women and she said Palin scares her. I asked the same thing to her. She couldn&#039;t name 1 thing. No depth whatsoever.   Character and Judgement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t truly believe anyone is undecided. The Frank Luntz focus groups are retarded. Fox and Drudge are the biggest. What you can see is a mis-match of character here. JM is a man of principles. Those who aren&#8217;t will side with Obamabi, plain and simple. You see most of Obamabi&#8217;s supporters are not rooted in anything of importance. I&#8217;m sorry, but thats what I have experienced. I spoke to a young man who said he didn&#8217;t like Palin and I asked him to name 2 things that you don&#8217;t like, he couldn&#8217;t. That&#8217;s my point! I spoke to a women and she said Palin scares her. I asked the same thing to her. She couldn&#8217;t name 1 thing. No depth whatsoever.   Character and Judgement!</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, by now 85% of everybody has made up their minds. They either support one candidate/team or the other, and they will fight tooth and nail to tear down the opposition and/or defend their candidate of choice. That&#039;s politics. We seem to be locked at a perpetual 48%-48% virtual tie since the Reagan landslide. It&#039;s that other 15% of the voters who will decide this election as they do every election. They are not listening to any of this. They don&#039;t care about all these pedantic details. They care about whatever they care about, they watch whatever news they watch, they go about their lives with our candidates very low on their list of things that are important to them every day. They won&#039;t be swayed by all our finger-pointing. We are all preaching to the choir... or whistling past the graveyard; take your choice. I don&#039;t need any more reasons to love Sarah and therefore like John, or to find Obama unfit.

I suspect we are all doing this stuff, both sides, just to make ourselves feel better because we all - both sides - feel we will vomit if the other side wins. And we will vomit. I know I will. But I also know we won&#039;t affect that 15% with all this avalanche of internet diarrhea.

Our side is furiously digging in Obama&#039;s past - as his team is digging into Palin&#039;s past - to find that bombshell or smoking gun that will be so horrible that even that 15% will take notice. It is difficult for me to think they will find anything horrible in Sarah&#039;s past. Just some cheesy stuff that everybody&#039;s life holds. You know... stuff we are not very proud of, but certainly not &quot;horrible&quot; enough to sway voters away. Obama, on the other hand, already has a ton of seriously bad stuff in his past. But the media just won&#039;t touch it because they want him in and that&#039;s that for them. This is tantamount to the system being rigged... and it is. Again.

We can only hope that more of that 15% will opt for McCain and his team than the other guy&#039;s team. It will, I am sure, come down to 1% of that 15%! If that 15% doesn&#039;t think bringing the &quot;Chicago gang&quot; to DC is a bad idea by now, if they don&#039;t think Obama&#039;s ranking as the second highest recipient of collapsing Fannie Mae&#039;s dirty money is bad enough, or that his adult-life-long association with anti-American figures is bad enough, none of this other stuff will do it. I don&#039;t know what it will take to convince them. Murder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it, by now 85% of everybody has made up their minds. They either support one candidate/team or the other, and they will fight tooth and nail to tear down the opposition and/or defend their candidate of choice. That&#8217;s politics. We seem to be locked at a perpetual 48%-48% virtual tie since the Reagan landslide. It&#8217;s that other 15% of the voters who will decide this election as they do every election. They are not listening to any of this. They don&#8217;t care about all these pedantic details. They care about whatever they care about, they watch whatever news they watch, they go about their lives with our candidates very low on their list of things that are important to them every day. They won&#8217;t be swayed by all our finger-pointing. We are all preaching to the choir&#8230; or whistling past the graveyard; take your choice. I don&#8217;t need any more reasons to love Sarah and therefore like John, or to find Obama unfit.</p>
<p>I suspect we are all doing this stuff, both sides, just to make ourselves feel better because we all &#8211; both sides &#8211; feel we will vomit if the other side wins. And we will vomit. I know I will. But I also know we won&#8217;t affect that 15% with all this avalanche of internet diarrhea.</p>
<p>Our side is furiously digging in Obama&#8217;s past &#8211; as his team is digging into Palin&#8217;s past &#8211; to find that bombshell or smoking gun that will be so horrible that even that 15% will take notice. It is difficult for me to think they will find anything horrible in Sarah&#8217;s past. Just some cheesy stuff that everybody&#8217;s life holds. You know&#8230; stuff we are not very proud of, but certainly not &#8220;horrible&#8221; enough to sway voters away. Obama, on the other hand, already has a ton of seriously bad stuff in his past. But the media just won&#8217;t touch it because they want him in and that&#8217;s that for them. This is tantamount to the system being rigged&#8230; and it is. Again.</p>
<p>We can only hope that more of that 15% will opt for McCain and his team than the other guy&#8217;s team. It will, I am sure, come down to 1% of that 15%! If that 15% doesn&#8217;t think bringing the &#8220;Chicago gang&#8221; to DC is a bad idea by now, if they don&#8217;t think Obama&#8217;s ranking as the second highest recipient of collapsing Fannie Mae&#8217;s dirty money is bad enough, or that his adult-life-long association with anti-American figures is bad enough, none of this other stuff will do it. I don&#8217;t know what it will take to convince them. Murder?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 06:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAZMD,

Don&#039;t worry about the Medias.    Nobody cares about their opinion anymore.   We all know they are biased.    The important thing is how the public will judge her.   And the public likes her, because she is genuine and it&#039;s shows.   She is the breath of fresh air that all Americans have been waiting for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAZMD,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about the Medias.    Nobody cares about their opinion anymore.   We all know they are biased.    The important thing is how the public will judge her.   And the public likes her, because she is genuine and it&#8217;s shows.   She is the breath of fresh air that all Americans have been waiting for.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 06:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama strong on economy?   You gotta be kidding Doug!   The Dems are the one responsible for this financial crisis.     Dems are ZERO on economy, always were, always will.   Poor Doug, where in the world do you get your informations from?   In a popcorn box?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama strong on economy?   You gotta be kidding Doug!   The Dems are the one responsible for this financial crisis.     Dems are ZERO on economy, always were, always will.   Poor Doug, where in the world do you get your informations from?   In a popcorn box?</p>
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		<title>By: SAZMD</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/26/thoughts-reaction-on-tonights-debate/#comment-115255</link>
		<dc:creator>SAZMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 06:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter how well Sarah Palin does at the VP debate,  she will lose the spin. If she uses talking points or steps on her words, then the current impression will be etched in media stone. If she speaks well and gives specifics, the MSM will ignore that and focus on something else, like her appearance or demeanor. If she comes across aggressive or strong, the media will attack her for being shrill or mean (like her convention speech). Too laid back and she will be cast as weak and not a leader. The questions will focus on foreign policy and the bailout, and also on any social issues that make her look extreme. Energy will be little mentioned, and reform issues will focus on what she didn&#039;t do in Alaska, instead of what she did. Remember, Gwen Iffel will be the moderator. I&#039;m not looking forward to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter how well Sarah Palin does at the VP debate,  she will lose the spin. If she uses talking points or steps on her words, then the current impression will be etched in media stone. If she speaks well and gives specifics, the MSM will ignore that and focus on something else, like her appearance or demeanor. If she comes across aggressive or strong, the media will attack her for being shrill or mean (like her convention speech). Too laid back and she will be cast as weak and not a leader. The questions will focus on foreign policy and the bailout, and also on any social issues that make her look extreme. Energy will be little mentioned, and reform issues will focus on what she didn&#8217;t do in Alaska, instead of what she did. Remember, Gwen Iffel will be the moderator. I&#8217;m not looking forward to it.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 06:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find a fox poll on the debate. could you show the link, Rob?

Here&#039;s more polls:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/27/Early_polls_call_Obama_winner_of_debate/UPI-45301222489321/

Here McCain comes out on top:
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/149767.asp?from=blog_last3

End the end, I think Charles Krauthammer was correct when he said that 
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...a tie helped Obama.

But first, Krauthammer deftly contrasted their styles. &quot;McCain is a guy who hits, he hammers, he jabs,&quot; he said. &quot;Obama is smooth, he&#039;s very elegant, he was very nimble.&quot;

Obama was never flustered or at a loss, Krauthammer added.

&quot;I think he comes out of this neutral, and thus ahead,&quot; Krauthammer said. &quot;We&#039;re now going to have the debates on the economy, which will are going to be his strong area, and McCain will be on the defensive.&quot;

Krauthammer said the debate was a draw that helped remove a potential Obama liability on foreign policy. &quot;I&#039;d be surprised if McCain gets a jump in the polls as a result of this,&quot; Krauthammer said.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find a fox poll on the debate. could you show the link, Rob?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s more polls:<br />
<a href="http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/27/Early_polls_call_Obama_winner_of_debate/UPI-45301222489321/" rel="nofollow">http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/27/Early_polls_call_Obama_winner_of_debate/UPI-45301222489321/</a></p>
<p>Here McCain comes out on top:<br />
<a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/149767.asp?from=blog_last3" rel="nofollow">http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/149767.asp?from=blog_last3</a></p>
<p>End the end, I think Charles Krauthammer was correct when he said that </p>
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&#8230;a tie helped Obama.</p>
<p>But first, Krauthammer deftly contrasted their styles. &#8220;McCain is a guy who hits, he hammers, he jabs,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Obama is smooth, he&#8217;s very elegant, he was very nimble.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama was never flustered or at a loss, Krauthammer added.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think he comes out of this neutral, and thus ahead,&#8221; Krauthammer said. &#8220;We&#8217;re now going to have the debates on the economy, which will are going to be his strong area, and McCain will be on the defensive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Krauthammer said the debate was a draw that helped remove a potential Obama liability on foreign policy. &#8220;I&#8217;d be surprised if McCain gets a jump in the polls as a result of this,&#8221; Krauthammer said.
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