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Kurtz: “Gibson Used Palin’s Own Words Against Her”…

Posted by: Curt @ 2:33 pm in Uncategorized

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The media establishment is coming out in support of Charlie Gibson’s horrible interview of Sarah Palin last night. Not all of them, but some….like Howard Kurtz who writes this unfortunate piece:

After switching to Fox, I learned that part of the interview was controversial.

GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, “Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.” Are we fighting a holy war?

PALIN: You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.

GIBSON: Exact words.

PALIN: But the reference there is a repeat of Abraham Lincoln’s words when he said — first, he suggested never presume to know what God’s will is, and I would never presume to know God’s will or to speak God’s words.

On Fox, Newt Gingrich called this “a sad commentary on the growing anti-religious hostility of the news media.” I would call it asking the governor about her own words.

Really? When her own words were NOT the “exact” words she used, as Charlie so smugly stated last night, then I think you may be stepping in it Howie. Her exact words:

“pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

Come on Howie, if your gonna gin up some outrage at least get the damn controversy right.

At least some in the media are not behind Charlie here.

Which media outfits?

Are you sitting down?

The New York Times:

Gibson, who sat back in his chair and wriggled his foot impatiently, had the skeptical, annoyed tone of a university president who agrees to interview the daughter of a trustee, but doesn’t believe she merits admission.

And the LA Times:

In the sit-down with Gibson, she faced questions about statements on the Iraq war that she made at an Assembly of God church that she sometimes attends in her hometown, Wasilla, of which she is a former mayor.

A video shows Palin asking a group to pray that the nation’s leaders were sending troops to Iraq “on a task that is from God.”

Gibson, however, mischaracterized her as simply asserting that the nation’s leaders were sending troops to Iraq on a task from God.

“Are we fighting a holy war?” he asked.

After Palin disputed his characterization, she paraphrased Abraham Lincoln, saying she meant, “Let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God’s side.”

Gibson went on to take a second part of her comments out of context. Palin had asked the group to pray “that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.”

But Gibson dropped her reference to praying — and instead quoted Palin as saying the war was God’s plan. He asked if she believed the country was sending her son on a task from God.

Amazing.

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 1Reply to this comment  

That son of a bitch Gibson is just like a terrorist who hides behind women and detonates an IED. No wonder the MSM is going down the tube. People want to see honest questions and answers, not some numb nut trying to belittle a candidate.

I would love to squeeze Gibson’s head till all the shit popped out.

Chuck

September 12th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
doug
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Holding a reporter’s notebook, and acting reporter-like, by asking tough probing questions. God forbid!

While there was a thin air of snobbishness that Gibson let leak out during his interview, what does one expect when an individual claims to be ready, to be capable, prepared of running the most powerful country in the world? Gibson wasn’t there to preside of a high school interview. She’s not the VP yet.

One needs to applaud him that he tested her fiber. He was not condescending, nor abrasive, but with notebook on lap– he was quizzing her, probing her to find out what she knows, whether she is prepared, to see what she made of. What’s wrong with that?

Again, as I mentioned before, let us remember what she said about Hillary and “excess criticism”:
“…Fair or unfair, I think she does herself a disservice … you got to plow throught all that. [Any] perceived whine… well, you got to work harder. …”
http://www.newsweek.com/id/156190

Basically, she was a bit nervous throughout most of the interview. The biggest ‘tell’ that indicated she’s not ready for ‘prime time’ came when she was asked what she thought about the ‘Bush Doctrine’, she then gave a ‘deer in the headlights’ stare and was simply lost, needing bearings from Gibson; not being familiar with it, or needing reminding she then rambled with sophomoric political talking-points. Here she, factually, stumbled, I found it embarrassing. Now that’s not to say she’s dumb or anything, she’s tough and smart I really believe —probably made of Senatorial stuff, down the road. But here and now, she’s out of her league.

She’ll be dispensed with more caution now.

September 12th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
doug
 3Reply to this comment  

Would some one please fish out my post from the drink?

September 12th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
 4Reply to this comment  

In your dreams only, Doug… but keep trying. Even when striving for the impossible, perserverance is always a positive trait.

September 12th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
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BTW, I’m well read, and even I don’t know from one pundit to the next what the “Bush Doctrine” is supposed to be. It’s a media phrase by Krauthammer, picked up and mutilated by every talking head on the planet.

And I’ve not been busy running the state of Alaska….

Only the desperate for scandal types is going to fall for this one. Because I bet if you put out a test as to what the ‘Bush Doctrine’ is supposed to be, the average American will fail…

September 12th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Curt
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That was another of Charlie’s foopahs…trying to state what the Bush Doctrine is when there is no definitive paper from the WH that states what the doctrine is. Most liberals love Wikipedia so hell, why not look there:

The Bush Doctrine is a term used to describe various related foreign policy principles of United States president George W. Bush, enunciated in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks. The phrase initially described the policy that the United States had the right to treat countries that harbor or give aid to terrorist groups as terrorists themselves, which was used to justify the invasion of Afghanistan.[1] Later it came to include additional elements, including the controversial policy of preventive war, which held that the United States should depose foreign regimes that represented a supposed threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate (used to justify the invasion of Iraq), a policy of supporting democracy around the world, especially in the Middle East, as a strategy for combating the spread of terrorism, and a willingness to pursue U.S. military interests in a unilateral way.[2][3][4]

Being the liberals favorite I love the line that the justification used to go into Iraq was for preemption reasons. Baloney. But even the libs favorite rags tell us the Bush Doctrine has meant many different things at different times and depending on who is telling you what the doctrine is.

Hell, the guy who coined the term says Charlie and the libs have it wrong:

The New York Times got it wrong. And Charlie Gibson got it wrong.

There is no single meaning of the Bush doctrine. In fact, there have been four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of this administration — and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in common usage today. It is utterly different.

~~~

…I was the first to use the term. In the cover essay of the June 4, 2001, issue of the Weekly Standard entitled, “The Bush Doctrine: ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism,” I suggested that the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush doctrine.

Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of the war on terror. In his address to the joint session of Congress nine days after 9/11, President Bush declared: “Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.” This “with us or against us” policy regarding terror — first deployed against Pakistan when Secretary of State Colin Powell gave President Musharraf that seven-point ultimatum to end support for the Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan — became the essence of the Bush doctrine.

Until Iraq. A year later, when the Iraq war was looming, Bush offered his major justification by enunciating a doctrine of preemptive war. This is the one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine.

It’s not. It’s the third in a series and was superseded by the fourth and current definition of the Bush doctrine, the most sweeping formulation of the Bush approach to foreign policy and the one that most clearly and distinctively defines the Bush years: the idea that the fundamental mission of American foreign policy is to spread democracy throughout the world. It was most dramatically enunciated in Bush’s second inaugural address: “The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world.”

~~~

If I were in any public foreign policy debate today, and my adversary were to raise the Bush doctrine, both I and the audience would assume — unless my interlocutor annotated the reference otherwise — that he was speaking about the grandly proclaimed (and widely attacked) freedom agenda of the Bush administration.

Not the Gibson doctrine of preemption.

Not the “with us or against us” no-neutrality-is-permitted policy of the immediate post-9/11 days.

Not the unilateralism that characterized the pre-9/11 first year of the Bush administration.

Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The only fixed “doctrines” in American history are the Monroe and the Truman doctrines which come out of single presidential statements during administrations where there were few other contradictory or conflicting foreign policy crosscurrents.

Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.

Sarah did just fine with the smug “it’s exact” professor

probably made of Senatorial stuff, down the road.

Pretty much describes Obama to a T, and he is running for the top job. You dem’s really messed up with this pick. It could of been a cakewalk for you guys if Hillary had been nominated, but now….it won’t be any cakewalk.

September 12th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Wordsmith
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Holding a reporter’s notebook, and acting reporter-like, by asking tough probing questions. God forbid!

That, I don’t mind. But what is it with reporters who want to subject conservatives to a religious test, then misrepresent and mischaracterize the answers? George Bush has been subjected to it throughout his presidency, so that his actual words and context have been distorted to mean what the secular anti-religious left want his words to mean. He says one thing, and secular militants hear what they want to hear out of it.

While there was a thin air of snobbishness that Gibson let leak out during his interview, what does one expect when an individual claims to be ready, to be capable, prepared of running the most powerful country in the world? Gibson wasn’t there to preside of a high school interview. She’s not the VP yet.

Obama claims to be ready and capable of running my country. Given his touting of “community organizer” as qualifications for executive experience and the denigration of small towns to minimize the executive experience of Palin, would Gibson conduct the same level of “air of snobbishness” probing into Obama’s readiness?

One needs to applaud him that he tested her fiber. He was not condescending, nor abrasive, but with notebook on lap– he was quizzing her, probing her to find out what she knows, whether she is prepared, to see what she made of. What’s wrong with that?

Nothing. Overall, I don’t have a problem with the interview. And I think she did just fine.

September 12th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Timothy
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CG came off as a snobby professor.

Hey Chalie, you gonna act like that to Obama or Biden…..NOT :)

I believe Gov. Palin, earned a B.

Did the MSM ever zap Carter’s or Clinton’s “Foreign policy experience” on the campagin trail?

I seem to recall that Stephanopolis and CG gave softball questions to Obama and Edwards.

I think what CG did was only emphasized what many are thinking about the MSM.

September 12th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
doug
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Ok, gang, so what you are telling me is that she wasn’t as ignorant of the ‘Bush Doctrine’ as she was perplexed by its own ambiguity and lack of meaningfulness.

I can accept that.

September 13th, 2008 at 7:39 am
Neo
 10Reply to this comment  

You’ve really got to go look at the unedited transcript of the Gibson/Palin interview.

ABC is trash. Charlie Gibson should go to Candy Mountain.

September 13th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
 11Reply to this comment  

Neo, I’ve been looking for a full transcript. Have you got a link? Many thanks…

September 13th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Missy
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Here you go Mata:

Newsbusters shows a few portions of the interview that were edited out by ABC, obviously to portray her as inept.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview

Entire transcript with the portions of the interview bolded on Mark Livins site:

http://marklevinshow.com/gibson-interview/

September 13th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Missy
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This is interesting. From the interviews Gibson did with both Obama and Palin we can see the difference in the type of questions he asked in each of the interviews. He soft balled his interview with Obama and hit Palin.

The Newsweek article is also taken apart, btw.

http://theanchoressonline.com/2008/09/12/side-by-side-gibson-questions-more/

September 13th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
 14Reply to this comment  

When you have two turds like Kurtz and Gibson who actually, undeniably believe they are intellectually superior to anyone but their own clique, how can you not expect them to act in a snobbish self-righteous better than thou manner?
This brood of vipers never give anyone outside their own group any consideration of honesty, fair play and decency.
The average citizen doesn’t watch or listen to these reprobates because they are too involved with their every day life responsibilities. That is one redeeming factor that may just aid Sarah and John.

September 13th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
yonason
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zero-Bumpkin can pretend to pray that G-d “make me an instrument of Your will.”, but Sarah Palin can’t pray that what America is doing is right?

“Come on my show to be interviewed. I really know how to ‘interview’. Heh Heh Heh.”Chucky Gibson.

Oh, and yeah, we need to be more like Europe, too… NOT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnMtc_QJ4-E&amp

That’s probably why the American Left wants to be more like Europe, because they want to be as effective parasites as the EU con-men are.

September 13th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
 16Reply to this comment  

The “Bush Doctrine” question, among others was unprofessional. Mr. Gibson didn’t know enough about the “Bush Doctrine” to field a question. Mr. Gibson had to answer Governor Palin’s question about specifics, with yet another question. Either Charlie Gibson was unprepared to talk about the “Bush Doctrine,” or he was so intent on leading the interview or both, that when Ms. Palin asked for clarification Charlie blew it. By tossing what everyone could tell was an erroneous question back into her lap, Mr. Gibson looked at least like a lazy journalist. So, I’m not surprised Charlie Gibson misquoted the prayer either. Sarah Palin did an excellent job of articulating her take on the “Bush Doctrine.” And, that’s what she was called upon to do. Don’t do your homework, it’ll show. The whole tone of the interview was just plain rude. Oh, and I’m onboard with the demeaning camera techniques too. I had to do a double take to see whether they hadn’t sawed the legs off Ms. Palin’s chair: http://theseedsof9-11.com

September 15th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
yonason
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ALASKA DEMOCRAT DEFENDS PALIN

Against a virulently hateful mob, one lone Alaska Democrat stands up for our next VP.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/09/alaskan-democra.html

The interview where he speaks is here
http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2008/09/you-have-to-listen-to-this-interview.html

I guess there is still at least one good one left, so there might be more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpBXYcgXV8M&
(too bad he goes off onto a Libertartian nut-job rant at the end, though - still, despite that, he’s STILL LESS LOONIE THAN THE DEMS!!!)

September 15th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

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