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	<title>Comments on: Jesus Christ Was NOT a Community Organizer! [Reader Post]</title>
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		<title>By: liam</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/12/jesus-christ-was-not-a-community-organizer-reader-post/#comment-116416</link>
		<dc:creator>liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow mark, that was half rediculous and mostly inane. A governor is a politician that is not held to one standard that a community organizer is held to? Seriously?! What planet do you live on? Geez people, I would be embarrassed if my only accomplishment was being a &#039;community organizer&#039;. Its like trying to polish rust and calling it gold. Get over it. Given the fact that Palin is compared with Obama is friggin hilarious anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow mark, that was half rediculous and mostly inane. A governor is a politician that is not held to one standard that a community organizer is held to? Seriously?! What planet do you live on? Geez people, I would be embarrassed if my only accomplishment was being a &#8216;community organizer&#8217;. Its like trying to polish rust and calling it gold. Get over it. Given the fact that Palin is compared with Obama is friggin hilarious anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/12/jesus-christ-was-not-a-community-organizer-reader-post/#comment-116123</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with this statement deriding the idea of Jesus Christ as a community organizer is the same problem that the Republicans use (no I am not a Democrat) use to make weak points, basically grabbing one phrase from an entire book, speech or even philosophy and throwing it out for a dummied down analysis. Also, she is pulling from only one definition of community organizing, and even some of the other defining statements that are cited in the post do make at least me think that yes Jesus was doing that. But before I get to that, let me give you my definition of community organizing. Community organizing is a process that brings together the best parts of a community together under a common vision for good. It does this by organizing resources and people to help bring about that vision. Did Jesus Christ bring together the best aspects of his communities for the common good. Did HE bring people together to believe in a shared vision? Did he organize resources? (water to wine might be one) (bountiful harvest from a loaf of bread?).  Did he have a group of organizers that delegated and took on much of the work? (delegation of tasks is a hallmark of successful organizing) Well maybe we start with the 12 disciples? Also community organizing is only successful after the initial leader leaves and the institution that was created continues to exist and thrive. (I think maybe Christianity has stood the test of time.)

On the other hand there is no doubt that Sarah Palin is a governor, and this is not to say that merely being a governor is a bad thing, but governors are politicians that are not held to the one standard that a community organizer is held to, whether people on the ground are coming together, building a shared vision and creating a better community than existed before the movement began.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this statement deriding the idea of Jesus Christ as a community organizer is the same problem that the Republicans use (no I am not a Democrat) use to make weak points, basically grabbing one phrase from an entire book, speech or even philosophy and throwing it out for a dummied down analysis. Also, she is pulling from only one definition of community organizing, and even some of the other defining statements that are cited in the post do make at least me think that yes Jesus was doing that. But before I get to that, let me give you my definition of community organizing. Community organizing is a process that brings together the best parts of a community together under a common vision for good. It does this by organizing resources and people to help bring about that vision. Did Jesus Christ bring together the best aspects of his communities for the common good. Did HE bring people together to believe in a shared vision? Did he organize resources? (water to wine might be one) (bountiful harvest from a loaf of bread?).  Did he have a group of organizers that delegated and took on much of the work? (delegation of tasks is a hallmark of successful organizing) Well maybe we start with the 12 disciples? Also community organizing is only successful after the initial leader leaves and the institution that was created continues to exist and thrive. (I think maybe Christianity has stood the test of time.)</p>
<p>On the other hand there is no doubt that Sarah Palin is a governor, and this is not to say that merely being a governor is a bad thing, but governors are politicians that are not held to the one standard that a community organizer is held to, whether people on the ground are coming together, building a shared vision and creating a better community than existed before the movement began.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/12/jesus-christ-was-not-a-community-organizer-reader-post/#comment-113445</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My crystal ball tells me that Karen shares the revised version of the Keating Five scandal that has been floating about lately.

McCain was the only Republican involved in the Keating Five Scandal, he was cleared after a lengthy investigation by the Senate Ethics Panel.  Bob Bennett,  a democrat who served as special council during the investigation has often publically stated that he argued against the panel&#039;s charge that McCain &quot;exercised poor judgement.&quot;  Bennett also said that because McCain was the only Republican named in the Keating Five, the democrats who were then in control of the Senate insisted on issuing the charge because otherwise it would be viewed as a democratic scandal.  So you see, there are occasions where dems want to be bi-partisan.

From the NYTimes:


The cloud of scandal did not lift until Nov. 20, 1991, when he was exonerated by the Senate Ethics Committee after an investigation that included weeks of televised hearings. The committee found that Mr. McCain had &#039;&#039;exercised poor judgment&#039;&#039; in attending, with four other senators, two meetings with federal banking regulators, but it found no improper action on his part. 

&#039;&#039;I found nothing in my investigation which caused me to question Senator McCain&#039;s integrity,&#039;&#039; said Robert Bennett, the Washington lawyer who was special counsel to the ethics panel during what is called the Keating Five investigation. Mr. Bennett, more recently, has been one of President Clinton&#039;s lawyers. 


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F05E7D9123CF932A15752C1A96F958260


Now, on to Rezco, Ayers, CAC.$160 million, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My crystal ball tells me that Karen shares the revised version of the Keating Five scandal that has been floating about lately.</p>
<p>McCain was the only Republican involved in the Keating Five Scandal, he was cleared after a lengthy investigation by the Senate Ethics Panel.  Bob Bennett,  a democrat who served as special council during the investigation has often publically stated that he argued against the panel&#8217;s charge that McCain &#8220;exercised poor judgement.&#8221;  Bennett also said that because McCain was the only Republican named in the Keating Five, the democrats who were then in control of the Senate insisted on issuing the charge because otherwise it would be viewed as a democratic scandal.  So you see, there are occasions where dems want to be bi-partisan.</p>
<p>From the NYTimes:</p>
<p>The cloud of scandal did not lift until Nov. 20, 1991, when he was exonerated by the Senate Ethics Committee after an investigation that included weeks of televised hearings. The committee found that Mr. McCain had &#8221;exercised poor judgment&#8221; in attending, with four other senators, two meetings with federal banking regulators, but it found no improper action on his part. </p>
<p>&#8221;I found nothing in my investigation which caused me to question Senator McCain&#8217;s integrity,&#8221; said Robert Bennett, the Washington lawyer who was special counsel to the ethics panel during what is called the Keating Five investigation. Mr. Bennett, more recently, has been one of President Clinton&#8217;s lawyers. </p>
<p><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F05E7D9123CF932A15752C1A96F958260" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F05E7D9123CF932A15752C1A96F958260</a></p>
<p>Now, on to Rezco, Ayers, CAC.$160 million, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: liam</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/12/jesus-christ-was-not-a-community-organizer-reader-post/#comment-113424</link>
		<dc:creator>liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libs defend everything with sarcasm, talking points, and protest anthems. Karen, you won&#039;t have to worry about &#039;seeing russia from your backyard&#039;. DC is about to turn into Moscow. I will be sure to thank you for it. Should I just submit my order to you for my car? I assume I will need one 10 years from now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libs defend everything with sarcasm, talking points, and protest anthems. Karen, you won&#8217;t have to worry about &#8217;seeing russia from your backyard&#8217;. DC is about to turn into Moscow. I will be sure to thank you for it. Should I just submit my order to you for my car? I assume I will need one 10 years from now.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Little</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/12/jesus-christ-was-not-a-community-organizer-reader-post/#comment-113417</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really leaning towards Jonathan Swift&#039;s essay, &quot;A Modest Proposal&quot;(Dean of St. Patricks in Dublin - 18th Century). It probably had the best answer to resolving issues for unwanted children (from rape, incest, the poor - who&#039;s children starved to death, etc). Gently boil with some veggies and serve up hot. 

Can you see Russia from your backyard, too? I mean, I live in Washington DC - so that makes me an expert in all things associated with this country.

Keating Five - look it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really leaning towards Jonathan Swift&#8217;s essay, &#8220;A Modest Proposal&#8221;(Dean of St. Patricks in Dublin &#8211; 18th Century). It probably had the best answer to resolving issues for unwanted children (from rape, incest, the poor &#8211; who&#8217;s children starved to death, etc). Gently boil with some veggies and serve up hot. </p>
<p>Can you see Russia from your backyard, too? I mean, I live in Washington DC &#8211; so that makes me an expert in all things associated with this country.</p>
<p>Keating Five &#8211; look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: liam</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/12/jesus-christ-was-not-a-community-organizer-reader-post/#comment-113348</link>
		<dc:creator>liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well obviously Karen just needed to get her own self righteousness off her chest. If you are in the position to call others out on perceived blanket stereotypes, then it says to me that your view of yourself is above us &#039;self righteous conservative republican Christians&#039;... whats the difference right?

Would it be fair to label you a left-wing-nut baby killer with no real concept of reality, but only what the media feeds you? But then again, I would think anyone heartless enough to kill an innocent person would have no real concept of right or wrong. Thus, why would I want your party to run my country?

Logical deduction doesn&#039;t always lead to the truth, Karen. Especially when you are deducing from a &#039;false-truth&#039;. Class dismissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well obviously Karen just needed to get her own self righteousness off her chest. If you are in the position to call others out on perceived blanket stereotypes, then it says to me that your view of yourself is above us &#8217;self righteous conservative republican Christians&#8217;&#8230; whats the difference right?</p>
<p>Would it be fair to label you a left-wing-nut baby killer with no real concept of reality, but only what the media feeds you? But then again, I would think anyone heartless enough to kill an innocent person would have no real concept of right or wrong. Thus, why would I want your party to run my country?</p>
<p>Logical deduction doesn&#8217;t always lead to the truth, Karen. Especially when you are deducing from a &#8216;false-truth&#8217;. Class dismissed.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really have to add this from Fit&#039;s CNN article... OMG, what ineptness.  Either Peter Hamby is a total Obama campaign dude, or he&#039;s dumber than dirt.

Quotes from his article, when speaking of Palin

&lt;blockquote&gt;“We’re going to do a few new things also,” she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. “For instance, as Alaska’s governor, &lt;b&gt;I put the government’s checkbook online so that people can see where their money’s going. We’ll bring that kind of transparency, that responsibility, and accountability back.&lt;/b&gt; We’re going to bring that back to D.C.”

There’s just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online – somebody’s already done it. His name is Barack Obama.

In 2006 and 2007, Obama teamed up with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn to pass the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act, also known as “Google for Government.” The act created a free, searchable web site – USASpending.gov — that discloses to the public all federal grants, contracts, loans and insurance payments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obama didn&#039;t do sheeeeet.  Coburn, a GOP Senator did.  26 other GOP Senators signed on - including McCain -  and 21 other DNC Senators did too... including Obama.  

That is NOT &quot;...somebody&#039;s already done it.  His name is Barack Obama&quot;

And when you read the comments, the sheeple respond in kind.. never searching out the truth about the bill.

Not to mention, Palin didn&#039;t suggest putting the federal checkbook on line, as she did in her state, and the fed Congress did.  She suggested adding more of &quot;that kind of transparency&quot; to government.  Duh...

Transparency, my ass....  not in the media, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have to add this from Fit&#8217;s CNN article&#8230; OMG, what ineptness.  Either Peter Hamby is a total Obama campaign dude, or he&#8217;s dumber than dirt.</p>
<p>Quotes from his article, when speaking of Palin</p>
<blockquote><p>“We’re going to do a few new things also,” she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. “For instance, as Alaska’s governor, <b>I put the government’s checkbook online so that people can see where their money’s going. We’ll bring that kind of transparency, that responsibility, and accountability back.</b> We’re going to bring that back to D.C.”</p>
<p>There’s just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online – somebody’s already done it. His name is Barack Obama.</p>
<p>In 2006 and 2007, Obama teamed up with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn to pass the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act, also known as “Google for Government.” The act created a free, searchable web site – <a href="http://USASpending.gov" title="http://USASpending.gov" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">USASpending.gov&#8230;</a> — that discloses to the public all federal grants, contracts, loans and insurance payments.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama didn&#8217;t do sheeeeet.  Coburn, a GOP Senator did.  26 other GOP Senators signed on &#8211; including McCain &#8211;  and 21 other DNC Senators did too&#8230; including Obama.  </p>
<p>That is NOT &#8220;&#8230;somebody&#8217;s already done it.  His name is Barack Obama&#8221;</p>
<p>And when you read the comments, the sheeple respond in kind.. never searching out the truth about the bill.</p>
<p>Not to mention, Palin didn&#8217;t suggest putting the federal checkbook on line, as she did in her state, and the fed Congress did.  She suggested adding more of &#8220;that kind of transparency&#8221; to government.  Duh&#8230;</p>
<p>Transparency, my ass&#8230;.  not in the media, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s accomplishment??  Fit, this is beneath you.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-2590&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt; Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; had 47 Senate sponsors... almost half the dang body... on that bill.

And that includes &lt;b&gt; McCain as a co-sponsor.&lt;/b&gt;

An Obama accomplishment???  Just as much as it was a McCain accomplishment.  Thank you.

BTW, if I may clarify... &lt;b&gt;the bill was introduced by Sen. Thomas Coburn [R-OK].&lt;/b&gt;  Uh... that would be GOP for the English letter challenged....

All Obama did was sign on with the other 21 Dems.  On the other hand, in addition to Coburn, there were 26 other GOPers.

Nice leaderships, Obama... NOT!  Congrats for bucking so many of your party to add a dang website...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s accomplishment??  Fit, this is beneath you.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-2590" rel="nofollow"><b> Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 </b></a> had 47 Senate sponsors&#8230; almost half the dang body&#8230; on that bill.</p>
<p>And that includes <b> McCain as a co-sponsor.</b></p>
<p>An Obama accomplishment???  Just as much as it was a McCain accomplishment.  Thank you.</p>
<p>BTW, if I may clarify&#8230; <b>the bill was introduced by Sen. Thomas Coburn [R-OK].</b>  Uh&#8230; that would be GOP for the English letter challenged&#8230;.</p>
<p>All Obama did was sign on with the other 21 Dems.  On the other hand, in addition to Coburn, there were 26 other GOPers.</p>
<p>Nice leaderships, Obama&#8230; NOT!  Congrats for bucking so many of your party to add a dang website&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/palins-transparency-proposal-already-exists-in-dc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;One of my favorite Obama accomplishments...FFAT 2006&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/palins-transparency-proposal-already-exists-in-dc/" rel="nofollow">One of my favorite Obama accomplishments&#8230;FFAT 2006</a></p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Like what career? Name one thing that Barack has actually done. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Me me!  Pick me!  I know the answer!!!!  LOL

Educational reform... NOT.... with the CAC.  But he sure blew a wad of money trying, along with his bud, William Ayers.

Now that is something he&#039;s &quot;actually done&quot; that is relevant to his qualifications as a POTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Like what career? Name one thing that Barack has actually done. </p></blockquote>
<p>Me me!  Pick me!  I know the answer!!!!  LOL</p>
<p>Educational reform&#8230; NOT&#8230;. with the CAC.  But he sure blew a wad of money trying, along with his bud, William Ayers.</p>
<p>Now that is something he&#8217;s &#8220;actually done&#8221; that is relevant to his qualifications as a POTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/12/jesus-christ-was-not-a-community-organizer-reader-post/#comment-113240</link>
		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Conservative Christian Republicans refuse to acknowledge Obama’s accomplishments&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Would you kindly make a list of those for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Conservative Christian Republicans refuse to acknowledge Obama’s accomplishments</p></blockquote>
<p>Would you kindly make a list of those for me?</p>
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		<title>By: WadeHM</title>
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		<dc:creator>WadeHM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I mean the Republicans who belittled Obama’s career and then have the audacity to say Palin is qualified because she is a governor&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Like what career? Name one thing that Barack has actually done. As far as belittling Barack&#039;s career, his claim to the Presidency, in his own words, he was a community organizer and he wrote a really great resume. His claim to foreign policy experience is visiting and campaigning outside the US.

Sarah Palin runs a STATE, which the left wing main stream media mistakenly calls one of the US&#039;s smallest states. Obama runs nothing. These aren&#039;t scare tactics, these are truths. You want scare tactics, YOUR side belittles Sarah Palin because she has 5 kids, was a small town mayor, refused to get an abortion, and OH MY GOD, she dares to want to be vice-president while she has family. GOD FORBID!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I mean the Republicans who belittled Obama’s career and then have the audacity to say Palin is qualified because she is a governor</p></blockquote>
<p>Like what career? Name one thing that Barack has actually done. As far as belittling Barack&#8217;s career, his claim to the Presidency, in his own words, he was a community organizer and he wrote a really great resume. His claim to foreign policy experience is visiting and campaigning outside the US.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin runs a STATE, which the left wing main stream media mistakenly calls one of the US&#8217;s smallest states. Obama runs nothing. These aren&#8217;t scare tactics, these are truths. You want scare tactics, YOUR side belittles Sarah Palin because she has 5 kids, was a small town mayor, refused to get an abortion, and OH MY GOD, she dares to want to be vice-president while she has family. GOD FORBID!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it is very interesting that most of you take the button so literally; however, not surprising. Conservative Christians believe themselves superior to all (even among themselves) and love any opportunity to attack and oppress. If you care, which I am sure you don&#039;t, but I just cannot live with myself if I do not say this...The button does not say Obama is Jesus and Palin is Pilate. It merely puts things into perspective - the conservative Christians, sorry, I mean the Republicans who belittled Obama&#039;s career and then have the audacity to say Palin is qualified because she is a governor - need a little wake up call. Conservative Christian Republicans refuse to acknowledge Obama&#039;s accomplishments and instead use scare tactics (like they/you do) to make sure your &quot;Operation Oppression&quot; is still in full force. Get off your pulpits, get educated, and start acting like Christians not bullies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it is very interesting that most of you take the button so literally; however, not surprising. Conservative Christians believe themselves superior to all (even among themselves) and love any opportunity to attack and oppress. If you care, which I am sure you don&#8217;t, but I just cannot live with myself if I do not say this&#8230;The button does not say Obama is Jesus and Palin is Pilate. It merely puts things into perspective &#8211; the conservative Christians, sorry, I mean the Republicans who belittled Obama&#8217;s career and then have the audacity to say Palin is qualified because she is a governor &#8211; need a little wake up call. Conservative Christian Republicans refuse to acknowledge Obama&#8217;s accomplishments and instead use scare tactics (like they/you do) to make sure your &#8220;Operation Oppression&#8221; is still in full force. Get off your pulpits, get educated, and start acting like Christians not bullies.</p>
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		<title>By: WadeHM</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/12/jesus-christ-was-not-a-community-organizer-reader-post/#comment-112019</link>
		<dc:creator>WadeHM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama may not be THE deceiver, but he certainly is a deceiver and a very good one at that. This brings to light why he is so proud of his community organizer title and why he believes that his position as one makes him the best choice for president. If people want the best deceiver as president, Obama is the choice. If people want the change that Obama wants to bring, a Marxists-Socialist country, then Obama is the choice.

Obama&#039;s goals are clear now as to what his change really means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama may not be THE deceiver, but he certainly is a deceiver and a very good one at that. This brings to light why he is so proud of his community organizer title and why he believes that his position as one makes him the best choice for president. If people want the best deceiver as president, Obama is the choice. If people want the change that Obama wants to bring, a Marxists-Socialist country, then Obama is the choice.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s goals are clear now as to what his change really means.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Ariel.  I&#039;ve read Melanie Phillips in the past,  others  in my net haunts have been encouraging us to read some of her work regarding Obama, which I will do.  As I&#039;ve mentioned before, he is my senator.   Prior to his election to the US Senate, some of the information that is coming out now was circulating then in local outlets.  Now there is much more to study, nothing about him surprises me.

He&#039;s made his way to where he is now with a lot of IL Dem party help and luck.  He really shouldn&#039;t be where he is today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Ariel.  I&#8217;ve read Melanie Phillips in the past,  others  in my net haunts have been encouraging us to read some of her work regarding Obama, which I will do.  As I&#8217;ve mentioned before, he is my senator.   Prior to his election to the US Senate, some of the information that is coming out now was circulating then in local outlets.  Now there is much more to study, nothing about him surprises me.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s made his way to where he is now with a lot of IL Dem party help and luck.  He really shouldn&#8217;t be where he is today.</p>
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