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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/06/democrats-trash-the-flag-at-denver-convention/#comment-110986</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For years I wondered why people were so secretive about the political affilations. Now I understand why. I have seen more none sense this year than ever before. It was reported that those flags were not thrown away... they were unused.  People of all parties, races, genders, ages, and income levels love the United States. Were all proud to call ourselves Americans. Why are you publishing such ridiculous articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years I wondered why people were so secretive about the political affilations. Now I understand why. I have seen more none sense this year than ever before. It was reported that those flags were not thrown away&#8230; they were unused.  People of all parties, races, genders, ages, and income levels love the United States. Were all proud to call ourselves Americans. Why are you publishing such ridiculous articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For years I wondered why folks were so secretive about the political affilations. Now I understand why. I have seen more none sense this year that ever before. It was reported that those flags were not thrown away they were unused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years I wondered why folks were so secretive about the political affilations. Now I understand why. I have seen more none sense this year that ever before. It was reported that those flags were not thrown away they were unused.</p>
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		<title>By: THOSE PESKY FLAGS &#171; Texas Hold &#8216;Em Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>THOSE PESKY FLAGS &#171; Texas Hold &#8216;Em Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pictures of them in clear plastic trash bags ready to be tossed in the dumpster. Flopping Aces has another picture of flags rescued from the trash. Apparently, Democrats see the flag only as a prop to be discarded [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/06/democrats-trash-the-flag-at-denver-convention/#comment-110734</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>prouddemocrat:

Before you go flinging that &quot;stupid&quot; label around, you might want to study the issue more carefully.

Are you saying some guy grabbed 12,000 flags and shoved them in a bag?

And perhaps you are unaware that the Boy Scouts sorted and bundled the flags that were found AFTER A WEEK still sitting at Invesco Field.

I realize you are a bit defensive on this issue. But you might want to get a better grip on the facts before making such silly charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>prouddemocrat:</p>
<p>Before you go flinging that &#8220;stupid&#8221; label around, you might want to study the issue more carefully.</p>
<p>Are you saying some guy grabbed 12,000 flags and shoved them in a bag?</p>
<p>And perhaps you are unaware that the Boy Scouts sorted and bundled the flags that were found AFTER A WEEK still sitting at Invesco Field.</p>
<p>I realize you are a bit defensive on this issue. But you might want to get a better grip on the facts before making such silly charges.</p>
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		<title>By: prouddemocrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>prouddemocrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe how stupid (coming from Republicans) some of these comments are.  First off, a person who wished to remain &quot;anonymous&quot; dropped off the flags to be distributed to the RNC. How do you know this person did not just grab these flags and throw them in a bag?  Secondly, if the flags were to be discarded, why would they be folded as neatly as they were? Thirdly, the only flags that are to be burned are the flags that are used for display and ceremonies (I know this from military experience), not miniature paper flags or flag stickers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe how stupid (coming from Republicans) some of these comments are.  First off, a person who wished to remain &#8220;anonymous&#8221; dropped off the flags to be distributed to the RNC. How do you know this person did not just grab these flags and throw them in a bag?  Secondly, if the flags were to be discarded, why would they be folded as neatly as they were? Thirdly, the only flags that are to be burned are the flags that are used for display and ceremonies (I know this from military experience), not miniature paper flags or flag stickers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Independent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have 3 flag poles in our yard flying the US Flag, Marine Corps Flag and the Texas Flag.  Each have worn out over time.  The old ones have been folded up nicely until they are disposed of properly. These are just flying in my plain old suburb yard, no place special, but they are important flags and should be treated as such.  I thought 911 kind of drove that point back home for most folks.  We raised several Boy Scouts and that point was drilled into them and they&#039;re just kids!  It would seem adults should know better.  To be the devil&#039;s advocate I&#039;m sure they all left the convention and some cleaning crew came in, however, they should have left specific instructions about the flags. Considering how much the event cost what else did they throw out? Waste not, want not...recycle, recycle, recycle...make Al Gore happy, after all he&#039;s a Dem. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have 3 flag poles in our yard flying the US Flag, Marine Corps Flag and the Texas Flag.  Each have worn out over time.  The old ones have been folded up nicely until they are disposed of properly. These are just flying in my plain old suburb yard, no place special, but they are important flags and should be treated as such.  I thought 911 kind of drove that point back home for most folks.  We raised several Boy Scouts and that point was drilled into them and they&#8217;re just kids!  It would seem adults should know better.  To be the devil&#8217;s advocate I&#8217;m sure they all left the convention and some cleaning crew came in, however, they should have left specific instructions about the flags. Considering how much the event cost what else did they throw out? Waste not, want not&#8230;recycle, recycle, recycle&#8230;make Al Gore happy, after all he&#8217;s a Dem. <img src='http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norm: Curt&#039;s list is pretty impressive.

But I&#039;d boil down the issue to this:

McCain served and sacrificed for his country while wearing the uniform. That&#039;s something Obama can never say.

I realize you&#039;d rather play your little chickenshit game, but in doing so you merely highlight once again how little your &quot;community organizer&quot; has done to serve his country. Like most Dems, he&#039;s more interested in serving himself.

That&#039;s why the flag story is so important. To you goofballs the flag is a prop. To us it represents the service and sacrifice of good men like Senator McCain.

Unlike you we don&#039;t take the flag, or the blessings it represents, for granted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm: Curt&#8217;s list is pretty impressive.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d boil down the issue to this:</p>
<p>McCain served and sacrificed for his country while wearing the uniform. That&#8217;s something Obama can never say.</p>
<p>I realize you&#8217;d rather play your little chickenshit game, but in doing so you merely highlight once again how little your &#8220;community organizer&#8221; has done to serve his country. Like most Dems, he&#8217;s more interested in serving himself.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the flag story is so important. To you goofballs the flag is a prop. To us it represents the service and sacrifice of good men like Senator McCain.</p>
<p>Unlike you we don&#8217;t take the flag, or the blessings it represents, for granted.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When you look at the number of actual veterans that have served this country the “chicken hawk” right has little if any leg to stand on. Look at the record.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Must be why the majority of those in the military consistently vote Republican.

Currently,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whoserved.com/congress.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Military Service in the Congress by Party&lt;/a&gt;
(Combined House of Representatives and Senate):
&lt;blockquote&gt;Republicans with military service: 13.1%
	Democrats with military service: 10.5%
	Independants with military service: 0%&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Are you going to pull the asinine chickenhawk screed on McCain-Palin?  Accuse them of not having a personal stake in sending our servicemen and women off to war?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/11acdf10-67e7-4148-90fe-d9bc28d7dc0c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Consider also&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt; Sunday, August 24, 2008
OBAMA-BIDEN: FIRST TIME IN 68 YEARS A TICKET WITH NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE
Posted by: Michael Medved at 2:18 AM
THE OBAMA-BIDEN TICKET IS THE FIRST TICKET OF EITHER MAJOR PARTY IN SIXTY-EIGHT YEARS IN WHICH NEITHER THE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT EVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY! 

At a time of war, the Democrats give us something the nation hasn&#039;t seen in more than two generations: a ticket where neither of the the running mates ever wore a uniform of any kind.
 
Shouldn&#039;t Republicans make a big deal of this?
 
Consider the history--
 
2004 -- GOP -- Bush served in National Guard/ DEMS- Kerry served in the Navy
2000---GOP -- Bush served in National Guard/ Al Gore served in the Army
1996 ---GOP -- Dole served in the Army/ Gore (Clinton&#039;s running mate) served in the Army
1992--- GOP -- Bush Sr. served in the Navy/ Gore served in the Army
1988 -- GOP-- Bush Sr. served in Navy, Quayle served in National Guard/DEMS --Dukakis served in the Army and Bentsen served in the Army Air Corps
1984-- GOP -- Reagan, Army Reserves and active duty (Capt. Rank), Bush Sr. served in Navy/Mondale served in Army
1980--GOP -- Reagan, Army, Bush Sr. served in Navy/Carter served as Naval Officer,  Mondale in Army
1976--GOP --Ford servd in Navy, Dole in Army/ Carter, Navy, Mondale Army
1972--GOP -- Nixon served in Navy, and Spiro Agnew in Army/ McGovern, Army Air Corps
1968-- GOP-- Nixon, Navy, Agnew Army/DEMS-- Ed Muskie, Navy (Humphrey twied twice to enlist, turned down because of Hernia)
1964 -- GOP -- Goldwater, Major General in Air Force/ LBJ -- Navy
1960 -- GOP -- Nixon, Navy, H.C. Lodge - Lt. Col in Army/ JFK and LBJ both Naval officers
1956--  GOP--- Eisenhower (are you kidding?), and Nixon, Navy/DEMS --Stevesnon, Navy
1952-- GOP -- Eisenhower (five star general) and Nixon, NAvy/ Dems, Stevenson, Navy
1948-- GOP -- Earl Warren (Dewey&#039;s running mate). Army/ DEMS, Harry Truman, Army
1944--GOP --  John Bricker (Dewey&#039;s Running mate), Army Lt./ Harry Truman (FDR&#039;s running mate), Army artillery officer
 
finally, you have to go all the way back to 1940 to find a ticket with no military experience: FDR and the pro-Stalin Henry Wallace (though FDR had been Assistant Secretary of the Navy during WW I). His opponent, Wendell Wilkie, by the way, served in the army in WWI.
 
In other words, in the last 68 years of American history we&#039;ve had 32 tickets representing the two major parties. Every single one of those tickets featured at least one candidate -- often both of them -- with military experience. Obviously, the GOP ticket for 2008 will again feature a heroic veteran in one of its slots.
 
But the Democrats, at a time of war, offer us a modern first: a national ticket with two candidates who never served a day in uniform in any capacity.
 
And why didn&#039;t Joe Biden serve? He&#039;s a year younger than Dick Cheney, so even more subject to the Vietnam draft. Remember how Democrats reamed Cheney for his &quot;five deferments&quot; during the height of the war as he pursued his education.
 
So what about Biden? He graduated from the University of Delaware in 1965, just as the war began to escalate intensively and he would have been exposed to the draft. Instead, he attended law school (at Syracuse University) graduating in 1968-- the very height of the war and the Vietnam draft.
 
And why didn&#039;t Biden go to war -- instead beginning the practice of law and his political career?
 
If he were a Republican, the press would be all over this one... remember what they did to Dan Quayle because he served &quot;only&quot; in the National Guard.
 
Meanwhile, whatever Biden&#039;s story of draft avoidance (I&#039;ve told my own tale in that regard, very candidly, in RIGHT TURNS), you know that if he were running on a GOP ticket the press would be grilling him already on his lack of service.
 
The sad fact remains that for the first time in 68 years we see a national ticket for a major party where neither the Presidential nominee nor the Vice Presidential nominee spent time in military service of any kind.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When you look at the number of actual veterans that have served this country the “chicken hawk” right has little if any leg to stand on. Look at the record.</p></blockquote>
<p>Must be why the majority of those in the military consistently vote Republican.</p>
<p>Currently,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whoserved.com/congress.asp" rel="nofollow">Military Service in the Congress by Party</a><br />
(Combined House of Representatives and Senate):</p>
<blockquote><p>Republicans with military service: 13.1%<br />
	Democrats with military service: 10.5%<br />
	Independants with military service: 0%</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you going to pull the asinine chickenhawk screed on McCain-Palin?  Accuse them of not having a personal stake in sending our servicemen and women off to war?</p>
<p><a href="http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/11acdf10-67e7-4148-90fe-d9bc28d7dc0c" rel="nofollow">Consider also</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p> Sunday, August 24, 2008<br />
OBAMA-BIDEN: FIRST TIME IN 68 YEARS A TICKET WITH NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE<br />
Posted by: Michael Medved at 2:18 AM<br />
THE OBAMA-BIDEN TICKET IS THE FIRST TICKET OF EITHER MAJOR PARTY IN SIXTY-EIGHT YEARS IN WHICH NEITHER THE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT EVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY! </p>
<p>At a time of war, the Democrats give us something the nation hasn&#8217;t seen in more than two generations: a ticket where neither of the the running mates ever wore a uniform of any kind.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t Republicans make a big deal of this?</p>
<p>Consider the history&#8211;</p>
<p>2004 &#8212; GOP &#8212; Bush served in National Guard/ DEMS- Kerry served in the Navy<br />
2000&#8212;GOP &#8212; Bush served in National Guard/ Al Gore served in the Army<br />
1996 &#8212;GOP &#8212; Dole served in the Army/ Gore (Clinton&#8217;s running mate) served in the Army<br />
1992&#8212; GOP &#8212; Bush Sr. served in the Navy/ Gore served in the Army<br />
1988 &#8212; GOP&#8211; Bush Sr. served in Navy, Quayle served in National Guard/DEMS &#8211;Dukakis served in the Army and Bentsen served in the Army Air Corps<br />
1984&#8211; GOP &#8212; Reagan, Army Reserves and active duty (Capt. Rank), Bush Sr. served in Navy/Mondale served in Army<br />
1980&#8211;GOP &#8212; Reagan, Army, Bush Sr. served in Navy/Carter served as Naval Officer,  Mondale in Army<br />
1976&#8211;GOP &#8211;Ford servd in Navy, Dole in Army/ Carter, Navy, Mondale Army<br />
1972&#8211;GOP &#8212; Nixon served in Navy, and Spiro Agnew in Army/ McGovern, Army Air Corps<br />
1968&#8211; GOP&#8211; Nixon, Navy, Agnew Army/DEMS&#8211; Ed Muskie, Navy (Humphrey twied twice to enlist, turned down because of Hernia)<br />
1964 &#8212; GOP &#8212; Goldwater, Major General in Air Force/ LBJ &#8212; Navy<br />
1960 &#8212; GOP &#8212; Nixon, Navy, H.C. Lodge &#8211; Lt. Col in Army/ JFK and LBJ both Naval officers<br />
1956&#8211;  GOP&#8212; Eisenhower (are you kidding?), and Nixon, Navy/DEMS &#8211;Stevesnon, Navy<br />
1952&#8211; GOP &#8212; Eisenhower (five star general) and Nixon, NAvy/ Dems, Stevenson, Navy<br />
1948&#8211; GOP &#8212; Earl Warren (Dewey&#8217;s running mate). Army/ DEMS, Harry Truman, Army<br />
1944&#8211;GOP &#8212;  John Bricker (Dewey&#8217;s Running mate), Army Lt./ Harry Truman (FDR&#8217;s running mate), Army artillery officer</p>
<p>finally, you have to go all the way back to 1940 to find a ticket with no military experience: FDR and the pro-Stalin Henry Wallace (though FDR had been Assistant Secretary of the Navy during WW I). His opponent, Wendell Wilkie, by the way, served in the army in WWI.</p>
<p>In other words, in the last 68 years of American history we&#8217;ve had 32 tickets representing the two major parties. Every single one of those tickets featured at least one candidate &#8212; often both of them &#8212; with military experience. Obviously, the GOP ticket for 2008 will again feature a heroic veteran in one of its slots.</p>
<p>But the Democrats, at a time of war, offer us a modern first: a national ticket with two candidates who never served a day in uniform in any capacity.</p>
<p>And why didn&#8217;t Joe Biden serve? He&#8217;s a year younger than Dick Cheney, so even more subject to the Vietnam draft. Remember how Democrats reamed Cheney for his &#8220;five deferments&#8221; during the height of the war as he pursued his education.</p>
<p>So what about Biden? He graduated from the University of Delaware in 1965, just as the war began to escalate intensively and he would have been exposed to the draft. Instead, he attended law school (at Syracuse University) graduating in 1968&#8211; the very height of the war and the Vietnam draft.</p>
<p>And why didn&#8217;t Biden go to war &#8212; instead beginning the practice of law and his political career?</p>
<p>If he were a Republican, the press would be all over this one&#8230; remember what they did to Dan Quayle because he served &#8220;only&#8221; in the National Guard.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, whatever Biden&#8217;s story of draft avoidance (I&#8217;ve told my own tale in that regard, very candidly, in RIGHT TURNS), you know that if he were running on a GOP ticket the press would be grilling him already on his lack of service.</p>
<p>The sad fact remains that for the first time in 68 years we see a national ticket for a major party where neither the Presidential nominee nor the Vice Presidential nominee spent time in military service of any kind.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rofl....a perfect example of a selective list.  You forgot:

Secretary of State Colin Powell - US Army. Vietnam War. 4-Star General (Ret.). Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1989-1993). Awarded the Defense Distinguished Service Medal, Army Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal, Legion of Merit, Solder&#039;s Medal, the Bronze Star and Purple Heart.

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge - US Army. Vietnam War. Awarded the Bronze Star for Valor, Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry and the Combat Infantry Badge.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld - US Navy. Naval aviator. Served from 1954-1957.

Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK) - US Air Force. World War II. Awarded two Distinguished Flying Crosses, two Air Medals, and the Yuan Hai Medal awarded by the Republic of China.

Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) (Ret.) - US Army. World War II. Awarded two Purple Hearts and the Bronze Star.

President Gerald Ford - US Navy. World War II. Served from 1942-1946.

Senator John McCain (R-AZ) - US Navy. Vietnam War. Awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.

Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) - US Army. Vietnam War. Awarded two Purple Hearts and several other decorations.

Congressman Duke Cunningham (R-CA) - US Navy. Vietnam War. Nominated for the Medal of Honor. Awarded the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations.

Congressman Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD) - US Marine Corps. Vietnam War. Awarded the Purple Heart, Bronze Star, and Navy Commendation Medal.

Congressman Sam Johnson (R-TX) - US Air Force. Korean and Vietnam War. POW in Hanoi from April 1966 to February 1973.

Oliver North - LTCol, USMC, Vietnam Veteran

Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) - US Army Reserves. Served from 1973-1986.

Congressman Mark Steven Kirk - Congressman Kirk is a Naval Reserve intelligence officer who served during conflicts with Iraq, Haiti, and Bosnia. He served four tours at sea and three in Panama. The U.S. Navy named Kirk &#039;Intelligence Officer of the Year&#039; in 1999 for his combat service in Kosovo. Kirk flew on missions over Iraq and continues to serve one weekend a month in the Pentagon. Kirk is the only member of Congress to serve stateside during Operation Iraqi Freedom and was an air crewman over Iraq during Operation Northern Watch.



Hell....lets go by State shall we?  Here&#039;s a list &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/369a8c188ed91e9a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;put together&lt;/a&gt; in 2002:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Alabama

Senator Jeff Sessions   R     USAR, 1973-86, CPT
Sonny Callahan           R-1  USN, 1952-54, enlisted
Terry Everett              R-2  USAF, 1955-59, enlisted
Robert E. &#039;Bud&#039; Cramer Jr.   D-5  USAR, 1976-1978, CPT
Spencer Thomas Bachus III  R-6  National Guard, 1969-1971

Alaska

Senator Ted Stevens               R  USAF, 1943-1946, 1LT
Senator Frank H. Murkowski  R  Coast Guard, 1955-1956
Donald E. &#039;Don&#039; Young            R-1  USA, 1955-1957

Arizona 

Senator John S. McCain     R National War College, Wash, DC, 1973-1974
        BS, United States Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD, 1958
       Senate Navy Liaison, 1977-1981
        Pilot &amp; Captain, United States Navy, 1958-1981,
        received Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart,
and the
        Distinguished Flying Cross
        Prisoner of War in Vietnam, 1967-1973
Bob Stump                         R-3  USN, 1943-1946
John B. Shadegg                 R-4  Air National Guard, 1969-1975
James T. &#039;Jim&#039; Kolbe           R-5  USN, 1968-1969, Vietnam
                                                   USNR, 1970-1977

Arkansas

DR. Victor F. &#039;Vic&#039; Snyder, MD R-2  USMC, 1967-1969, CPL, Thailand

California

Stephen &#039;Steve&#039; Horn      R-38  USAR, 1954-1962, SPC-7
Gary G. Miller                R-41  USA, 1967-1968
Duncan L. Hunter         R-52  USA, 1969-1971, LT

Colorado 

Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell R  USAF, 1951-1953, enlisted
                               (Cpt of 1964 US Olypmic Judo Tm)

Connecticut

Robert Ruhl &#039;Rob&#039; Simmons    R-2  USA, 1965-1968
                      USAR, 1969-1995, COL
                      CIA, 1969-1979, Operations Off.

Florida  

Clifford B. &#039;Cliff&#039; Stearns  R-6  USAF, 1963-67, CPT
Michael Bilirakis              R-9  USAF, 1951-55
C. W. Bill Young             R-10  National Guard, 1948-57
Porter J. Goss                 R-14  USA, 1960-1966
                                       CIA, 1962-1971
                                    Clandestine Services Officer
Dr David J. &#039;Dave&#039; Weldon Jr., MD R-15  USA, 1981-1987, MAJ
       USAR, 1987-1994

Georgia

Michael Allen &#039;Mac&#039; Collins  R-3  National Guard, 1964-1970 E-4
John H. &#039;Johnny&#039; Isakson  R-6  National Guard, 1966-1972, SSG
Bob Barr    R-7  CIA, 1971-1978, Analyst
Nathan Deal    R-9  USA, 1966-1968, CPT
Dr Charles W.  Norwood Jr., DDS R-10  USA, 1968-1969, CPT, Vietnam

Idaho

Senator Larry E. Craig  R  National Guard, 1971-1973,E-3
C.L. &#039;Butch&#039; Otter   R-1  National Guard, 1968-1973, enlisted

Illinois 

Henry John Hyde   R-6  USN, 1942-1946, ENSIGN
       USNR, 1946-1976, CMDR
Dr Philip M. Crane, Ph.d  R-8  USA, 1954-56, CPL
Mark Steven Kirk   R-10  USNR, LCmdr, present
John M. Shimkus   R-20  USA, 1980-1985, CPT
       USAR, 1985-Present, MAJ
       USA Academy Grad 1980

Indiana

Senator Richard G. Lugar  R  USN, 1957-1960, LTJG
Stephen E. &#039;Steve&#039; Buyer  R-5  USAR, 1980-present, LTC
       USA, 1984-1987, CPT
       USA, 1990-1991, MAJ (Gulf War)
       The Citadel, 1980, grad
Dan L. Burton    R-6  USA, 1957-1958
       USAR, 1958-1962

Iowa 

John &#039;Greg&#039; Ganske   R-4  USAR, 1986-present, LTC

Kansas

Senator Pat Roberts   R  USMC, 1958-62, LT

Kentucky

Edward &#039;Ed&#039; Whitfield   R-1  USAR, 1967-1973, 100th DIV, 1LT
Ron Lewis    R-2  USN, 1972
Dr Ernest Lee &#039;Ernie&#039; Fletcher , MD R-6  USAF, 1974-1980

Louisiana

William J. Jefferson   D-2  USA, 1969-1975, CPT
Dr John C. Cooksey, MD  R-5  USAF, 1967-1969
       USAFR, 1969-1972

Maryland 

Wayne T. Gilchrest   R-1  USMC, 1964-1968, SGT, Vietnam

Michigan

Nick Smith    R-7  USAF, 1959-61, CPT
       Intelligence Officer
Mike Rogers    R-8  USA, CPT
       FBI, Special Agent, Chicago
Joseph K. &#039;Joe&#039; Knollenberg  R-11  USA, 1955-57, CPL

Minnesota

James M. &#039;Jim&#039; Ramstad  R-3  USAR, 1968-74, LT

Mississipp

Senator Thad Cochran   R  USN, 1959-61, LTJG
Roger F. Wicker   R-1  USAF, 1976-1980, CPT
       USAFR, 1980-Present, LTC


Missouri 

W. Todd Akin    R-2  USA, 1973-1983

Nebraska 

Senator Charles T. &#039;Chuck&#039; Hagel R  USA, 1967-68, SGT
Douglas K. &#039;Doug&#039; Bereuter  R-1  USA, 1963-1965, 1LT
Dr Thomas W  Osborne, Ph.d  R-3  USAR, 1960-1968
       Wash. Redskins, 1960-1968
       49ers 1959

Nevada

James A. &#039;Jim&#039; Gibbons  R-2  USAF, 1967-1971, CPT
       Air Nat Guard, 1975-1991, COL

New Hampshir

Senator Robert C. &#039;Bob&#039; Smith R  USN, 1965-1967, Vietnam, ENSIGN
       USNR, 1962-1965, 1967-1969

New Jersey

Rodney P. Frelinghuysen  R-11  USA, 1969-1971, PRIVATE
       93rd Eng. BN, VIETNAM

New Mexico

Dr Heather A. Wilson , Ph.d  R-1  USAF, 1978-1989
       BS, USAF Academy, 1982.
       Rhodes Scholar, 1985, Ph.d
Joseph R. &#039;Joe&#039; Skeen   R-2  USN, 1945-1946, enlisted
       USAFR, 1945-1946

New York 

Peter T. King    R-3  USAR, 1968-73
Benjamin A. Gilman   R-20  National Guard, 1981-Present, COL
       USA, 1943-1945, PRIVATE
Sherwood L. &#039;Sherry&#039; Boehlert R-23  USA, 1956-1958
Amory &#039;Amo&#039; Houghton Jr.  R-31  USMC, 1944-1946, PFC

North Carolina

Senator Jesse Helms   R  USN, 1942-45
John Howard Coble   R-6  Coast Guard, 1952-1956, 1977-1978
       Coast Guard Res, 1960-1981, O-6

Ohio 

Paul E. Gillmor   R-5  USAF, 1965-1966, CPT
David Lee &#039;Dave&#039; Hobson  R-7  Air National Guard, 1958-1963
Ralph Regula    R-16  USN, 1944-1946

Oklahoma 

Senator Don Nickles   R  National Guard, 1970-76;
Senator James M. Inhofe  R  USA, 1954-1956
Wesley &#039;Wes&#039; Watkins   R-3  Air National Guard, 1960-1967, 2LT

Pennsylvania 

Senator Arlen Specter   R  USAF, 1951-53, 1LT
John E. Peterson   R-5  USA, 1957, SPC
       USAR, 1958-1964
Donald L. &#039;Don&#039; Sherwood  R-10  USA, 1964-1966, 1LT
Joseph R. Pitts    R-16  USAF SAC, 1963-1969, CPT
George W. Gekas   R-17  USA, 1953-1955, CPL

South Carolina 

Senator Strom Thurmond  R  USA, 1942-46, LTC
       USAR, 1924-41, 1947-65; Maj Gen
Henry Edward Brown Jr.  R-1  NAT. GUARD, 1953- 1962
Floyd Davidson Spence  R-2  USNR, 1952-1988, CAPTAIN
(Korean Conflict, 1952-1954)
Lindsey O. Graham   R-3  Air Nat Guard, 1989-present, MAJ

Tennessee    11:  4R, 2D

William Lewis &#039;Bill&#039; Jenkins  R-1  USA, 1960-1962, LT MPs
John James &#039;Jimmy&#039; Duncan Jr. R-2  USAR, 1970-1987, CPT
William V. &#039;Van&#039; Hilleary  R-4  USAF, 1982-1984, CPT
       USAFR, 1984-present, MAJ
Edward G. &#039;Ed&#039; Bryant  R-7  USA, 1970-1978, CPT

Texas   

Samuel Robert &#039;Sam&#039; Johnson  R-3  USAF, 1951-1979, COL

Utah 

Senator Robert F. Bennett  R  National Guard, 1957-61, 1LT
James V. Hansen   R-1  USN, 1951-1955

Virginia    

Senator John W. Warner  USN, 1944-1946
       USMC, 1950-1952
Edward L. &#039;Ed&#039; Schrock  USN, 1964-1988, CAPTAIN
Frank Rudolph Wolf   USA, 1962-1963, USAR, 1963-1967
Thomas M. &#039;Tom&#039; Davis III  R-11  USA, 1971-1972, 2LT
       National Guard, 1972-1979
       USAR, 1972-1979

Washington 

Doc Hastings    R-4  USAR, 1963-1969, SPC

Wyoming  

Senator Craig Thomas   R  USMC, 1955-1959, LT
Senator Michael B. Enzi  R  Air National Guard, 1968-1973 

Congresswoman Heather Wilson (R-NM) - US Air Force. Served from 1978-1989.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can spin your crap anyway you want to but the fact is that the majority of those who serve this country in our armed forces almost always turn out to be Republicans.  They want a strong country, not a weak (hope everyone loves us) country as many Democrats want.

Face it, the days of the JFK Democrat are done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rofl&#8230;.a perfect example of a selective list.  You forgot:</p>
<p>Secretary of State Colin Powell &#8211; US Army. Vietnam War. 4-Star General (Ret.). Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1989-1993). Awarded the Defense Distinguished Service Medal, Army Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal, Legion of Merit, Solder&#8217;s Medal, the Bronze Star and Purple Heart.</p>
<p>Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge &#8211; US Army. Vietnam War. Awarded the Bronze Star for Valor, Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry and the Combat Infantry Badge.</p>
<p>Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld &#8211; US Navy. Naval aviator. Served from 1954-1957.</p>
<p>Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK) &#8211; US Air Force. World War II. Awarded two Distinguished Flying Crosses, two Air Medals, and the Yuan Hai Medal awarded by the Republic of China.</p>
<p>Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) (Ret.) &#8211; US Army. World War II. Awarded two Purple Hearts and the Bronze Star.</p>
<p>President Gerald Ford &#8211; US Navy. World War II. Served from 1942-1946.</p>
<p>Senator John McCain (R-AZ) &#8211; US Navy. Vietnam War. Awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.</p>
<p>Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) &#8211; US Army. Vietnam War. Awarded two Purple Hearts and several other decorations.</p>
<p>Congressman Duke Cunningham (R-CA) &#8211; US Navy. Vietnam War. Nominated for the Medal of Honor. Awarded the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations.</p>
<p>Congressman Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD) &#8211; US Marine Corps. Vietnam War. Awarded the Purple Heart, Bronze Star, and Navy Commendation Medal.</p>
<p>Congressman Sam Johnson (R-TX) &#8211; US Air Force. Korean and Vietnam War. POW in Hanoi from April 1966 to February 1973.</p>
<p>Oliver North &#8211; LTCol, USMC, Vietnam Veteran</p>
<p>Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) &#8211; US Army Reserves. Served from 1973-1986.</p>
<p>Congressman Mark Steven Kirk &#8211; Congressman Kirk is a Naval Reserve intelligence officer who served during conflicts with Iraq, Haiti, and Bosnia. He served four tours at sea and three in Panama. The U.S. Navy named Kirk &#8216;Intelligence Officer of the Year&#8217; in 1999 for his combat service in Kosovo. Kirk flew on missions over Iraq and continues to serve one weekend a month in the Pentagon. Kirk is the only member of Congress to serve stateside during Operation Iraqi Freedom and was an air crewman over Iraq during Operation Northern Watch.</p>
<p>Hell&#8230;.lets go by State shall we?  Here&#8217;s a list <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/369a8c188ed91e9a" rel="nofollow">put together</a> in 2002:</p>
<blockquote><p>Alabama</p>
<p>Senator Jeff Sessions   R     USAR, 1973-86, CPT<br />
Sonny Callahan           R-1  USN, 1952-54, enlisted<br />
Terry Everett              R-2  USAF, 1955-59, enlisted<br />
Robert E. &#8216;Bud&#8217; Cramer Jr.   D-5  USAR, 1976-1978, CPT<br />
Spencer Thomas Bachus III  R-6  National Guard, 1969-1971</p>
<p>Alaska</p>
<p>Senator Ted Stevens               R  USAF, 1943-1946, 1LT<br />
Senator Frank H. Murkowski  R  Coast Guard, 1955-1956<br />
Donald E. &#8216;Don&#8217; Young            R-1  USA, 1955-1957</p>
<p>Arizona </p>
<p>Senator John S. McCain     R National War College, Wash, DC, 1973-1974<br />
        BS, United States Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD, 1958<br />
       Senate Navy Liaison, 1977-1981<br />
        Pilot &#038; Captain, United States Navy, 1958-1981,<br />
        received Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart,<br />
and the<br />
        Distinguished Flying Cross<br />
        Prisoner of War in Vietnam, 1967-1973<br />
Bob Stump                         R-3  USN, 1943-1946<br />
John B. Shadegg                 R-4  Air National Guard, 1969-1975<br />
James T. &#8216;Jim&#8217; Kolbe           R-5  USN, 1968-1969, Vietnam<br />
                                                   USNR, 1970-1977</p>
<p>Arkansas</p>
<p>DR. Victor F. &#8216;Vic&#8217; Snyder, MD R-2  USMC, 1967-1969, CPL, Thailand</p>
<p>California</p>
<p>Stephen &#8216;Steve&#8217; Horn      R-38  USAR, 1954-1962, SPC-7<br />
Gary G. Miller                R-41  USA, 1967-1968<br />
Duncan L. Hunter         R-52  USA, 1969-1971, LT</p>
<p>Colorado </p>
<p>Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell R  USAF, 1951-1953, enlisted<br />
                               (Cpt of 1964 US Olypmic Judo Tm)</p>
<p>Connecticut</p>
<p>Robert Ruhl &#8216;Rob&#8217; Simmons    R-2  USA, 1965-1968<br />
                      USAR, 1969-1995, COL<br />
                      CIA, 1969-1979, Operations Off.</p>
<p>Florida  </p>
<p>Clifford B. &#8216;Cliff&#8217; Stearns  R-6  USAF, 1963-67, CPT<br />
Michael Bilirakis              R-9  USAF, 1951-55<br />
C. W. Bill Young             R-10  National Guard, 1948-57<br />
Porter J. Goss                 R-14  USA, 1960-1966<br />
                                       CIA, 1962-1971<br />
                                    Clandestine Services Officer<br />
Dr David J. &#8216;Dave&#8217; Weldon Jr., MD R-15  USA, 1981-1987, MAJ<br />
       USAR, 1987-1994</p>
<p>Georgia</p>
<p>Michael Allen &#8216;Mac&#8217; Collins  R-3  National Guard, 1964-1970 E-4<br />
John H. &#8216;Johnny&#8217; Isakson  R-6  National Guard, 1966-1972, SSG<br />
Bob Barr    R-7  CIA, 1971-1978, Analyst<br />
Nathan Deal    R-9  USA, 1966-1968, CPT<br />
Dr Charles W.  Norwood Jr., DDS R-10  USA, 1968-1969, CPT, Vietnam</p>
<p>Idaho</p>
<p>Senator Larry E. Craig  R  National Guard, 1971-1973,E-3<br />
C.L. &#8216;Butch&#8217; Otter   R-1  National Guard, 1968-1973, enlisted</p>
<p>Illinois </p>
<p>Henry John Hyde   R-6  USN, 1942-1946, ENSIGN<br />
       USNR, 1946-1976, CMDR<br />
Dr Philip M. Crane, Ph.d  R-8  USA, 1954-56, CPL<br />
Mark Steven Kirk   R-10  USNR, LCmdr, present<br />
John M. Shimkus   R-20  USA, 1980-1985, CPT<br />
       USAR, 1985-Present, MAJ<br />
       USA Academy Grad 1980</p>
<p>Indiana</p>
<p>Senator Richard G. Lugar  R  USN, 1957-1960, LTJG<br />
Stephen E. &#8216;Steve&#8217; Buyer  R-5  USAR, 1980-present, LTC<br />
       USA, 1984-1987, CPT<br />
       USA, 1990-1991, MAJ (Gulf War)<br />
       The Citadel, 1980, grad<br />
Dan L. Burton    R-6  USA, 1957-1958<br />
       USAR, 1958-1962</p>
<p>Iowa </p>
<p>John &#8216;Greg&#8217; Ganske   R-4  USAR, 1986-present, LTC</p>
<p>Kansas</p>
<p>Senator Pat Roberts   R  USMC, 1958-62, LT</p>
<p>Kentucky</p>
<p>Edward &#8216;Ed&#8217; Whitfield   R-1  USAR, 1967-1973, 100th DIV, 1LT<br />
Ron Lewis    R-2  USN, 1972<br />
Dr Ernest Lee &#8216;Ernie&#8217; Fletcher , MD R-6  USAF, 1974-1980</p>
<p>Louisiana</p>
<p>William J. Jefferson   D-2  USA, 1969-1975, CPT<br />
Dr John C. Cooksey, MD  R-5  USAF, 1967-1969<br />
       USAFR, 1969-1972</p>
<p>Maryland </p>
<p>Wayne T. Gilchrest   R-1  USMC, 1964-1968, SGT, Vietnam</p>
<p>Michigan</p>
<p>Nick Smith    R-7  USAF, 1959-61, CPT<br />
       Intelligence Officer<br />
Mike Rogers    R-8  USA, CPT<br />
       FBI, Special Agent, Chicago<br />
Joseph K. &#8216;Joe&#8217; Knollenberg  R-11  USA, 1955-57, CPL</p>
<p>Minnesota</p>
<p>James M. &#8216;Jim&#8217; Ramstad  R-3  USAR, 1968-74, LT</p>
<p>Mississipp</p>
<p>Senator Thad Cochran   R  USN, 1959-61, LTJG<br />
Roger F. Wicker   R-1  USAF, 1976-1980, CPT<br />
       USAFR, 1980-Present, LTC</p>
<p>Missouri </p>
<p>W. Todd Akin    R-2  USA, 1973-1983</p>
<p>Nebraska </p>
<p>Senator Charles T. &#8216;Chuck&#8217; Hagel R  USA, 1967-68, SGT<br />
Douglas K. &#8216;Doug&#8217; Bereuter  R-1  USA, 1963-1965, 1LT<br />
Dr Thomas W  Osborne, Ph.d  R-3  USAR, 1960-1968<br />
       Wash. Redskins, 1960-1968<br />
       49ers 1959</p>
<p>Nevada</p>
<p>James A. &#8216;Jim&#8217; Gibbons  R-2  USAF, 1967-1971, CPT<br />
       Air Nat Guard, 1975-1991, COL</p>
<p>New Hampshir</p>
<p>Senator Robert C. &#8216;Bob&#8217; Smith R  USN, 1965-1967, Vietnam, ENSIGN<br />
       USNR, 1962-1965, 1967-1969</p>
<p>New Jersey</p>
<p>Rodney P. Frelinghuysen  R-11  USA, 1969-1971, PRIVATE<br />
       93rd Eng. BN, VIETNAM</p>
<p>New Mexico</p>
<p>Dr Heather A. Wilson , Ph.d  R-1  USAF, 1978-1989<br />
       BS, USAF Academy, 1982.<br />
       Rhodes Scholar, 1985, Ph.d<br />
Joseph R. &#8216;Joe&#8217; Skeen   R-2  USN, 1945-1946, enlisted<br />
       USAFR, 1945-1946</p>
<p>New York </p>
<p>Peter T. King    R-3  USAR, 1968-73<br />
Benjamin A. Gilman   R-20  National Guard, 1981-Present, COL<br />
       USA, 1943-1945, PRIVATE<br />
Sherwood L. &#8216;Sherry&#8217; Boehlert R-23  USA, 1956-1958<br />
Amory &#8216;Amo&#8217; Houghton Jr.  R-31  USMC, 1944-1946, PFC</p>
<p>North Carolina</p>
<p>Senator Jesse Helms   R  USN, 1942-45<br />
John Howard Coble   R-6  Coast Guard, 1952-1956, 1977-1978<br />
       Coast Guard Res, 1960-1981, O-6</p>
<p>Ohio </p>
<p>Paul E. Gillmor   R-5  USAF, 1965-1966, CPT<br />
David Lee &#8216;Dave&#8217; Hobson  R-7  Air National Guard, 1958-1963<br />
Ralph Regula    R-16  USN, 1944-1946</p>
<p>Oklahoma </p>
<p>Senator Don Nickles   R  National Guard, 1970-76;<br />
Senator James M. Inhofe  R  USA, 1954-1956<br />
Wesley &#8216;Wes&#8217; Watkins   R-3  Air National Guard, 1960-1967, 2LT</p>
<p>Pennsylvania </p>
<p>Senator Arlen Specter   R  USAF, 1951-53, 1LT<br />
John E. Peterson   R-5  USA, 1957, SPC<br />
       USAR, 1958-1964<br />
Donald L. &#8216;Don&#8217; Sherwood  R-10  USA, 1964-1966, 1LT<br />
Joseph R. Pitts    R-16  USAF SAC, 1963-1969, CPT<br />
George W. Gekas   R-17  USA, 1953-1955, CPL</p>
<p>South Carolina </p>
<p>Senator Strom Thurmond  R  USA, 1942-46, LTC<br />
       USAR, 1924-41, 1947-65; Maj Gen<br />
Henry Edward Brown Jr.  R-1  NAT. GUARD, 1953- 1962<br />
Floyd Davidson Spence  R-2  USNR, 1952-1988, CAPTAIN<br />
(Korean Conflict, 1952-1954)<br />
Lindsey O. Graham   R-3  Air Nat Guard, 1989-present, MAJ</p>
<p>Tennessee    11:  4R, 2D</p>
<p>William Lewis &#8216;Bill&#8217; Jenkins  R-1  USA, 1960-1962, LT MPs<br />
John James &#8216;Jimmy&#8217; Duncan Jr. R-2  USAR, 1970-1987, CPT<br />
William V. &#8216;Van&#8217; Hilleary  R-4  USAF, 1982-1984, CPT<br />
       USAFR, 1984-present, MAJ<br />
Edward G. &#8216;Ed&#8217; Bryant  R-7  USA, 1970-1978, CPT</p>
<p>Texas   </p>
<p>Samuel Robert &#8216;Sam&#8217; Johnson  R-3  USAF, 1951-1979, COL</p>
<p>Utah </p>
<p>Senator Robert F. Bennett  R  National Guard, 1957-61, 1LT<br />
James V. Hansen   R-1  USN, 1951-1955</p>
<p>Virginia    </p>
<p>Senator John W. Warner  USN, 1944-1946<br />
       USMC, 1950-1952<br />
Edward L. &#8216;Ed&#8217; Schrock  USN, 1964-1988, CAPTAIN<br />
Frank Rudolph Wolf   USA, 1962-1963, USAR, 1963-1967<br />
Thomas M. &#8216;Tom&#8217; Davis III  R-11  USA, 1971-1972, 2LT<br />
       National Guard, 1972-1979<br />
       USAR, 1972-1979</p>
<p>Washington </p>
<p>Doc Hastings    R-4  USAR, 1963-1969, SPC</p>
<p>Wyoming  </p>
<p>Senator Craig Thomas   R  USMC, 1955-1959, LT<br />
Senator Michael B. Enzi  R  Air National Guard, 1968-1973 </p>
<p>Congresswoman Heather Wilson (R-NM) &#8211; US Air Force. Served from 1978-1989.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can spin your crap anyway you want to but the fact is that the majority of those who serve this country in our armed forces almost always turn out to be Republicans.  They want a strong country, not a weak (hope everyone loves us) country as many Democrats want.</p>
<p>Face it, the days of the JFK Democrat are done.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/06/democrats-trash-the-flag-at-denver-convention/#comment-110452</link>
		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding me? When you look at the number of actual veterans that have served this country the &quot;chicken hawk&quot; right has little if any leg to stand on. Look at the record.
Democrats:
    * President Jimmy Carter-US Naval Academy
    * John Kennedy-decorated WWII veteran
    *  Sen. John Kerry: Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat.
    * President-elect Al Gore: enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an army journalist, assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade headquartered at Bien Hoa, an airbase twenty miles northeast of Saigon.
    * House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt: Missouri Air National Guard, 1965-71.
    * Rep. David Bonior: Staff Sgt., United States Air Force 1968-72
    * Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., U.S. Air Force SAC 1969-72
    * Sen. Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g., U.S. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam
    * Sen. Daniel Inouye, US Army 1943-&#039;47: Medal of Honor, World War Two
    * Rep. Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., U.S. Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea
    * Sen. Max Cleland*: Captain, U.S. Army 1965-68; Silver Star &amp; Bronze Star, Vietnam. Lost both legs and one arm.
    * Sen. George McGovern*: one of the elite few Air Force bomber pilots to fly the maximum 35 successful bombing missions in WW II. Stephen Ambrose, who wrote a book about him, called him &quot;one of the greatest patriots I know.&quot;
    * Sen. Ted Kennedy: U.S. Army, 1951-1953.
    * Sen. Tom Harkin: Lt., U.S. Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
    * Sen. Jack Reed: U.S. Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91
    * Sen. Fritz Hollings: served as a U.S. Army officer in World War II, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
    * Rep. Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., U.S. Army 1956-76; two tours in Vietnam, two Distinguished Flying Crosses as a helicopter pilot, two Bronze Stars, and the Soldier&#039;s Medal.
    * Rep. Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW, Ambassador to Viet Nam, and recipient of the Purple Heart, the Silver Star and the Legion of Merit.
    * Rep. Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant/platoon leader with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, U.S. Army; was wounded and received a Purple Heart.
    * Candidate for Governor Bill McBride: volunteered and served as a U.S. Marine in Vietnam; awarded Bronze Star with a combat &quot;V.&quot;
    * Gov. Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam; received Bronze Star.
    * Rep. Pete Stark: served in the Air Force 1955-57. 

Republicans: 

    *  President George W. Bush: used his family connections to get into the Air National Guard. He then deserted his post and received an Honorable Discharge two months early. (For more info, see www.awolbush.com).
    *  Vice President Dick Cheney: sought graduate school deferment.
    * House Speaker Newt Gingrich: sought graduate school deferment, did not serve.
    * House Majority Leader Dick Armey: avoided the draft, did not serve.
    * House Majority Leader Tom Delay: avoided the draft, did not serve.
    * Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott: avoided the draft, did not serve.
    * Convicted Iran-Contra liar Elliott Abrams: sought deferment (for bad back).
    * Drug Czar Bill Bennett: sought graduate school deferment.
    * Drug addict Rush Limbaugh: sought deferment (because of a cyst on his tail end).
    * Blowhard Patrick Buchanan: sought deferment (for bad knee).
    * Sen. Phil Gramm: sought marriage deferment.
    * Rep. &amp; VP Candidate Jack Kemp: sought medical deferment (while playing in the NFL).
    * Vice President Dan Quayle: Family got him into the Reserves.
    *  Pat Robertson: his father, a US Senator, got him out of Korea as soon as the shooting began.
    * Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr: sought deferment (for psoriasis!).
    * Actor John Wayne: sought deferment (to further his acting career).
    * Rep. Vin Weber: sought deferment (for asthma).
    * Journalist George Will: sought graduate school deferment. 

More patriotic, give me a break...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me? When you look at the number of actual veterans that have served this country the &#8220;chicken hawk&#8221; right has little if any leg to stand on. Look at the record.<br />
Democrats:<br />
    * President Jimmy Carter-US Naval Academy<br />
    * John Kennedy-decorated WWII veteran<br />
    *  Sen. John Kerry: Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat.<br />
    * President-elect Al Gore: enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an army journalist, assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade headquartered at Bien Hoa, an airbase twenty miles northeast of Saigon.<br />
    * House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt: Missouri Air National Guard, 1965-71.<br />
    * Rep. David Bonior: Staff Sgt., United States Air Force 1968-72<br />
    * Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., U.S. Air Force SAC 1969-72<br />
    * Sen. Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g., U.S. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam<br />
    * Sen. Daniel Inouye, US Army 1943-&#8217;47: Medal of Honor, World War Two<br />
    * Rep. Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., U.S. Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea<br />
    * Sen. Max Cleland*: Captain, U.S. Army 1965-68; Silver Star &amp; Bronze Star, Vietnam. Lost both legs and one arm.<br />
    * Sen. George McGovern*: one of the elite few Air Force bomber pilots to fly the maximum 35 successful bombing missions in WW II. Stephen Ambrose, who wrote a book about him, called him &#8220;one of the greatest patriots I know.&#8221;<br />
    * Sen. Ted Kennedy: U.S. Army, 1951-1953.<br />
    * Sen. Tom Harkin: Lt., U.S. Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.<br />
    * Sen. Jack Reed: U.S. Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91<br />
    * Sen. Fritz Hollings: served as a U.S. Army officer in World War II, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.<br />
    * Rep. Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., U.S. Army 1956-76; two tours in Vietnam, two Distinguished Flying Crosses as a helicopter pilot, two Bronze Stars, and the Soldier&#8217;s Medal.<br />
    * Rep. Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW, Ambassador to Viet Nam, and recipient of the Purple Heart, the Silver Star and the Legion of Merit.<br />
    * Rep. Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant/platoon leader with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, U.S. Army; was wounded and received a Purple Heart.<br />
    * Candidate for Governor Bill McBride: volunteered and served as a U.S. Marine in Vietnam; awarded Bronze Star with a combat &#8220;V.&#8221;<br />
    * Gov. Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam; received Bronze Star.<br />
    * Rep. Pete Stark: served in the Air Force 1955-57. </p>
<p>Republicans: </p>
<p>    *  President George W. Bush: used his family connections to get into the Air National Guard. He then deserted his post and received an Honorable Discharge two months early. (For more info, see <a href="http://www.awolbush.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.awolbush.com</a>).<br />
    *  Vice President Dick Cheney: sought graduate school deferment.<br />
    * House Speaker Newt Gingrich: sought graduate school deferment, did not serve.<br />
    * House Majority Leader Dick Armey: avoided the draft, did not serve.<br />
    * House Majority Leader Tom Delay: avoided the draft, did not serve.<br />
    * Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott: avoided the draft, did not serve.<br />
    * Convicted Iran-Contra liar Elliott Abrams: sought deferment (for bad back).<br />
    * Drug Czar Bill Bennett: sought graduate school deferment.<br />
    * Drug addict Rush Limbaugh: sought deferment (because of a cyst on his tail end).<br />
    * Blowhard Patrick Buchanan: sought deferment (for bad knee).<br />
    * Sen. Phil Gramm: sought marriage deferment.<br />
    * Rep. &amp; VP Candidate Jack Kemp: sought medical deferment (while playing in the NFL).<br />
    * Vice President Dan Quayle: Family got him into the Reserves.<br />
    *  Pat Robertson: his father, a US Senator, got him out of Korea as soon as the shooting began.<br />
    * Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr: sought deferment (for psoriasis!).<br />
    * Actor John Wayne: sought deferment (to further his acting career).<br />
    * Rep. Vin Weber: sought deferment (for asthma).<br />
    * Journalist George Will: sought graduate school deferment. </p>
<p>More patriotic, give me a break&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Democrats did is awful. But it looks like Sarah Palin is no better. Look at the research that I just completed. First time in my life I have been so angry:

http://palinflag.110mb.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Democrats did is awful. But it looks like Sarah Palin is no better. Look at the research that I just completed. First time in my life I have been so angry:</p>
<p><a href="http://palinflag.110mb.com/" rel="nofollow">http://palinflag.110mb.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarbaraS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a flag flying on my house.  I have found it in the yard on two occassions.  Someone came and took it down and threw it on the ground.  There was no way it could have come down on its own or been blown down.  I put it back up each time.  I will not let anyone stop me from flying my flag.

Also I found a small flag that was once on a car&#039;s antenna in my yard.  It must have come loose. I could not bring myself to throw that tiny little plastic flag in the garbage.  I put it away in a chest.  When I was a child we were taught to revere the flag and our country.  That is not taught today.  I get tears in my eyes when I see Old Glory or hear the national anthem and my heart feels like it is bursting.  It&#039;s a shame that young people today do not have this feeling of pride and joy.  There is nothing like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a flag flying on my house.  I have found it in the yard on two occassions.  Someone came and took it down and threw it on the ground.  There was no way it could have come down on its own or been blown down.  I put it back up each time.  I will not let anyone stop me from flying my flag.</p>
<p>Also I found a small flag that was once on a car&#8217;s antenna in my yard.  It must have come loose. I could not bring myself to throw that tiny little plastic flag in the garbage.  I put it away in a chest.  When I was a child we were taught to revere the flag and our country.  That is not taught today.  I get tears in my eyes when I see Old Glory or hear the national anthem and my heart feels like it is bursting.  It&#8217;s a shame that young people today do not have this feeling of pride and joy.  There is nothing like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrown Away Democrat American Flags Rescued By Camp McCain &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Barracuda Patrol!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrown Away Democrat American Flags Rescued By Camp McCain &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Barracuda Patrol!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] covering: Betsy&#8217;s Page, Ace Of Spades, Flopping Aces, The Moderate Voice, Gateway Pundit, Blue Crab Boulevard, and Little Green Footballs.  Sphere: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry MataH. You&#039;re safe on this side of the fence. I&#039;ll get the new post up later tonight.

One of my military correspondents mentioned that the Dems could have donated the flags to be used to decorate military graves:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://s80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/mikesamerica/?action=view&amp;current=74337661.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/mikesamerica/74337661.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

But of course that would never have occurred to these Dems now would it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry MataH. You&#8217;re safe on this side of the fence. I&#8217;ll get the new post up later tonight.</p>
<p>One of my military correspondents mentioned that the Dems could have donated the flags to be used to decorate military graves:</p>
<p><a href="http://s80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/mikesamerica/?action=view&#038;current=74337661.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/mikesamerica/74337661.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"/></a></p>
<p>But of course that would never have occurred to these Dems now would it?</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t hurt me, Mikey!  LOL   I was just pointing out the defense spin the DNC gave, ya know.  Rather reminds me of the public relations clean up they had to do after parking &quot;honey pots&quot; on the police memorial in Portland, OR. 

They called these flags the victims of thieves.  Pretty weak when you consider the alternatives. Like I said, if they weren&#039;t stolen, the attendees are either ignorant to flag etiquette, or just plain consider Old Glory a disposable piece of garbage.

Not one of the explanations goes down the gullet well. Glad to hear Old Glory was treated better at the conventions you witnessed.   I&#039;m such a maniac about this stuff that when my flags that I fly on my m&#039;cycle get damaged, I save them all and take them to my local Fire Dept, where they give them the proper ceremonial disposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t hurt me, Mikey!  LOL   I was just pointing out the defense spin the DNC gave, ya know.  Rather reminds me of the public relations clean up they had to do after parking &#8220;honey pots&#8221; on the police memorial in Portland, OR. </p>
<p>They called these flags the victims of thieves.  Pretty weak when you consider the alternatives. Like I said, if they weren&#8217;t stolen, the attendees are either ignorant to flag etiquette, or just plain consider Old Glory a disposable piece of garbage.</p>
<p>Not one of the explanations goes down the gullet well. Glad to hear Old Glory was treated better at the conventions you witnessed.   I&#8217;m such a maniac about this stuff that when my flags that I fly on my m&#8217;cycle get damaged, I save them all and take them to my local Fire Dept, where they give them the proper ceremonial disposal.</p>
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