How Do The Hillary Fans Feel About Palin?

I ordered a $25 McCain/Palin ball cap today. I think she will do fine. Zach

Strong move by the GOP!

And Obama will take your $$ laughing all the way to the bank.

I have felt hopeless and disconnected from the democratic party since Hillary dropped from the race. I have been insulted on blogs and websites for being a Hillary supporter. Today one of the criticisms against Palin was that she was a mother of five which was quite irresponsible. Unbelievable. I am a mother of five and now I am supposed to be ashamed of that. I’m tired of the meaness and elite view of the Obama party. I’m tired of their petty views. I can’t even imagine what kind of presidency that would be. I am throwing my whole support to McCain/Palin on this election. I thank McCain for giving me a choice.

rap has his head firmly planted in his ass. i heard all day yesterdayhow shocked everyone was at mccains choice, it was a good shocked. people are talking and they are talking good things with this ticket. i love hearing all of the dems spouting off and showing their true sexist, american hationg nature. the dems are a bunch hate filled people hiding behind b.s.

REad this :
Rove said: ‘Undistinguished’ Small Town Mayor and Short-term Governor ‘Intensely Political Choice’
Turd Rove a.k.a ‘Mastermind’ Was Speaking About the Possible Choice of Gov. KAINE as OBAMA s VEEP Earlier This Month LOL

He Said Such a Pick Would Come From Someone ‘Not Concerned’ if Veep Choice Was ‘Capable of Being President’…

Now This Hockey mom, who was a beauty pageant and mayor of a town of 7000, might be smart and all, but if something happened to McCain, HOW CAN ANY AMERICAN BE SO STUPID TO believe that she can be the leader of the USA?? OMG, I am not sure this lady has never left the USA.

I am for womens equal pay and right to chose, but voting for this one because she is a woman is an insult to Hillary and her achievements. Those Hillary fans who would vote GOP just cause they dislike Obama, are not Hillary supporters, are angry, bitter and uninformed people with no reason whatsoever. You can’t get water out of a stone.

luva the scissors you are the one that sounds full of hate! I am laughing my ass off over this desperate pick of McCain’s.. It truly is a pick of pure desperation!!!!

Oh and by the way.. she is a HUGE flip flopper too…

would you like to know more about the bridge to no where story??

She was very much for it.. before she was against it… a flip flopper picked another flip flopper…

check this out!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080831/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_bridge_to_nowhere;_ylt=Am5ir2_yrKz_ZTBecPFV4idh24cA

Meredith. I am not sure you were answering to me, but I am all for Obama and not for McSame. My reference to Rove was to show the hypocrisy of his spins… when it s convenient for the GOP to make Obama look inexperienced or one of his potential Veep choices.. they ll do anything. As far as Hillarys supporters goes, I would listen to what Hillary said in her brilliant speech. “Did you just vote for me or for what I stand for?” … hence vote with me for Obama/Biden

Now Palin doesn’t even remotely have the qualifications Rove expected from the supposed Obamas VIP pick (Kaine) … But then… Rove is a thug and he should be tried for treason ASAP

It is time that we all stop watching what the TV feeds us and look at the integrity and the accomplishments of the candidates. If any Americans votes for the GOP this time again, he is obviously helplessly retarded. By the way you should all watch the Documentary/movie (UNCOUNTED The MOVIE) or watch the 10 minutes bits of the movie on YouTube.

Folks, when it comes down to Freedom, you should make sure that your vote gets counted and that elections results are auditable.

sieh also : Hacking Democracy ( by Blackbox.org… )

Here’s what I find so amusing.

If Palin is such a horrible choice, thus easily defeated in the Nov elections why all this spittle flecked gasping angst and hand-wringing emanating from the Leftie Fever Swamps?

If Palin is all of the things that her detractors are claiming then the opposition should be content to sit back, smile smugly among themselves, and watch with glee as the Republicans falter.

Did you notice that when Biden’s name was being floated, those on the Right didn’t fall apart. No, they smiled.

They smiled a Biden like smile, looked knowingly at one another, and said “Why yes, what a great choice.”

But instead of a self assured, confident reaction the Left is in a full blown hair-pulling, vein-popping Palin induced panic.

Sort of makes me wonder what they’re so afraid of.

Apparently Palin represents something that the Left is very, very afraid of.

You’re right Missy.

Its a veritable Moby Parade complete with purple feather boas, heavy makeup, and floppy clown shoes.

Thanks for your comment Andrea.

By the way, nice shoes.

Wow… Debating with no facts or personal attacks. How do you feel Missy when someone calls your opinion idiotic or delusional.
There is no debate when you don’t address the facts or reply with new fresh attacks, out of nowhere with false links. The fact that there is a website of dems for McCain doesn’t give any credit for anything.
Debating with attacks or offenses is juvenile and immature. So be that person then! Good for you.

That gives your arguments a lot of credibility. You vote for the candidate who called his wife a C.
and didn’t comment when some woman asked him how to beat the Bit*h, referring to Hillary.

Get real, Missy.

Hey Andrea, let’s play Who Said This?

“HOW CAN ANY AMERICAN BE SO STUPID TO believe that she can be the leader of the USA??”

“Those Hillary fans who would vote GOP just cause they dislike Obama, are not Hillary supporters, are angry, bitter and uninformed people with no reason whatsoever”

“If any Americans votes for the GOP this time again, he is obviously helplessly retarded”

the hypocrisy around prolifers is stunning. You stand up and call it murder when a human is killed only when it s convenient to you.

That’s an awfully bold statement to make about someone you know NOTHING about.

When Tibetan Monks get their skull fractured by a Government unchallenged by your GOP leaders you dont blink an eye.

The US Gov’t didn’t challenge the gov’t of Tibet?

Really?

Are you sure?

when your fellow christians are massacred in IRAQ as consquences to the war you don’t even stand up for them.

It is truly a tragic event when anyone is murdered by terrorists or by an oppressive government. The people in the article you linked were not murdered as a consequence of any war. They were murdered due to the bloodthirsty nature of the enemy that we face.

It seems that you are only considering the civilian deaths that are occurring in Iraq now rather than looking at all of the death and oppression which occurred under Hussein’s regime.

How many lives have we saved because we had the moral courage to step up and do the right thing in Iraq and Afghanistan? That is the more important question, but the answer to that question doesn’t fit your self-serving template.

As to the abortion issue, I haven’t been “manipulated” by anyone.

I believe that human life is sacred. I believe that life begins at conception. Science and medicine back my position.

I believe that there are only very rare occasions where unwanted pregnancies cannot be prevented.

Without regard to the circumstances, giving “partial birth” to a child and then sucking its brains out of the back of its perforated skull is barbaric and is nothing short of murder. The people who perform these procedures pull the baby out of the womb feet first so that only the head remains inside the mother. That way they can complete their procedure with complete culpability. If the baby could only travel a few more crucial inches and escape the birth canal, it would be considered “alive” by those who dismiss human life when it’s convenient to do so.

The Born Alive Infant Protection Act would have protected babies who were born alive after surviving an earlier abortion attempt. Obama says that it would have been perfectly OK for a newborn baby to be shelved and left to die.

How a civilized society can justify these procedures is beyond my comprehension but Obama says that it’s perfectly fine.

This man’s soul is a hollow, dark place yet his minions are willing to follow him blindly into the abyss.

You rail on and on about your “rights” yet you’re willing to deny LIFE to the most innocent.

In case you’ve forgotten, the right to LIFE is addressed in the US Constitution.

The right to “live and let live” is not.

Aye Chihuahua. You are truly deluded. It is not only my own opinion that the War was initiated on false pretenses. You and Missy both, have to stop debating cause you found an excuse not to go watch the facts I offered, cause you just Looove to keep your head in the sand. You are part of that 20% of fools who would justify anything your government does, as long as the one doing the act, has a bible in his right hand and a gun in the left. So you, hypocrite prolifer who are brainwashed and influenced by images of partial abortion mutilated baby parts (Partial abortion which is the only one that I agree should be revised), you are the real betrayers of this country who has sacrificed more than 4150 lifes of beautiful and young men to fight a stupid war. How dare you typing on this medium, in front of the whole world your heresies of uneducated fools, who have most likely never been outside of your own country?? Am I wrong??

Missy, Miss Thing.. you wanted to debate and I gave you facts to support my judgments and of course, surprise surprise, you said: no, I don’t want to hear your arguments..I am right, Andrea is wrong. You both are the perfect results of Rovian tactics, stubborn and jaded individuals who have no happiness in their lives and have to go preach others how to live and vote for those who can do it for you. You are lost in your one sided bigoted Godly crusade supported by no evidence of facts but by the values of an entity whose existence is based only on myths. (see Zeitgeist, the free video.. a must see for open minded people… a devilish movie for Missy and Aye Krishna.

You should both be ashamed of yourself, at this point in History, still trying to argue that the War was necessary and that 1 Million and more Iraqi civilians had to die for what you call just cause. You are actually the people who still allow people and our soldiers to die in vain, not only due to your cluelessness, but due to your GOP politicians who are only allowing this war to endure, so that more contractors can rip off the US government and steal your tax money.

What is immensely sad is that there are too many Americans and real christians, who don’t stand up to the wackos of your kind and tell you once and for all to shut the F**k up, you and your false preachers who talk about family values and then go Jer*off in a public restroom.

There is nothing more appalling than the arrogance of the cowards.. yours. More people should take the time to tell you that you are deluded, morally bankrupt and clueless !

Aye Chihuahua. You are truly deluded. ….

So sorry… as a former northern Cal resident, this is about as far as I could get without losing it! Hearing this from someone who is proud to admit she’s from San Francisco…. uh oh… I feel it coming on again!

H/T to Wordsmith, da MAN! Just had to borrow your little guy!

When Tibetan Monks get their skull fractured by a Government unchallenged by your GOP leaders you dont blink an eye.

Wanna launch into your DNC Pres, and his int’l community buds about Rwanda now? How about Darfur, of which this admin labels genocide, but your int’l friends in the UN refuse to recognize because… shudder… that may require action!

Beware all those rocks when you reside in a glass house.

Shazam! I’ve been outside of this country so I guess that makes me right! Phew!

On a serious note. If you want to topic hop, get yourself a chatroom, blog posting functions differently.

I read through your links, watched the you tubes and spent a few minutes looking at sources other than Dan Rather’s old 60 Minutes. Responding to all that crap will drag this thread all over the place, can’t you stay on task? Sheesh! Just making a wild guess here, but if your material was an interesting topic for discussion, the hosts of this blog probably would have it posted.

This thread is about How Do the Hillary Fans Feel About Palin.

Unbelievable… Ms or Mr. Andrea in SF sez:

It is time that we all stop watching what the TV feeds us and look at the integrity and the accomplishments of the candidates. If any Americans votes for the GOP this time again, he is obviously helplessly retarded. By the way you should all watch the Documentary/movie (UNCOUNTED The MOVIE) or watch the 10 minutes bits of the movie on YouTube.

Well, there ya go. It’s all about whining over the era of the hanging chads…. Altho I have to say that if someone can’t figure out how to punch a ballot correctly, I’d say wrapping the mind around the issues is pretty much out of that voter’s reach.

Yep. You’d have to dust the cobwebs off their brains about 911. But the 2000 election? It still eats at their soul like it happened yesterday. Huh?

How was it Andrea put it?

Folks, when it comes down to Freedom, you should make sure that your vote gets counted and that elections results are auditable.

Let’s see… FL, MI to start. Then let’s pile on the DNC unofficially declaring a nominee without having the superdelegates vote (which is the only way Obama ever won)… Oh wait! That’s right. Obama went into last minute re’negotiations with Hillary to cut the roll call vote short. Meaning he made sure they *couldn’t* vote. Yeah, I remember now. I guess that all that donor money he’s been blowing thru, not resulting in much poll bounce, made him nervous.

And of course, he couldn’t drag her into court and systematically question every petition signature… er, vote… to officially eliminate her as competition like he did in his IL Senate run. So what’s a man to do, right?

With this recent history, any Obama supporter wandering up to me with the “every vote must count” mantra dribbling off their lips has got to be looking for one of those “hopeless retards” to entertain with fiction. So I suggest they start repeating that crap to the mirror.

Andrea? Why don’t you first clean up your own party, and the cess pool where you reside, before lecturing the rest of us about being “hopelessly retarded”.

Below, for you viewing pleasure, Andrea’s evidence… You may want to make some popcorn first, and throw on a Bab’s LP.

ABOUT SARA PALIN : VERY INTERESTING ! PLS FWD:
I hope I am not using precious space onthis blog but i found this extremely eye opening and worth sharing.

“This is an email I received from a good friend in New York City. She is a Bryn Mawr graduate, and is a physician currently engaged in cancer research. This is an email she received from a Bryn Mawr classmate of hers who lives in Alaska.
Because you, like me, may never have heard of Sarah Palin until today, you may find this an interesting perspective from an Alaskan resident.

Dear classmates -

As an Alaskan, I am writing to give all of you some information on Sarah Palin, Senator McCain’s choice for VP. As an Alaska voter, I now more than most of you about her and, frankly, I am horrified that he picked her.

The most accurate description of her is red neck. Her husband works in the oil fields of Prudhoe Bay and races snow mobiles. She is a life time member of the NRA and has worked tirelessly to allow indiscriminate hunting of wildlife in Alaska, particularly wolves and bears. She has spent millions of Alaska state dollars on aerial hunting of these predators from helicopters and airplanes, dollars that should have been spent, for example, on Alaska’s failing school system.We have the lowest rate of high school graduation in the country. Not all of you may think aerial predator hunting is so bad, but how anyone (other than Alaska wolf-haters, of which there are many, most without teeth), could think this use of funds is appropriate is beyond me. If you want to know more about the aerial hunting travesty, let me know and I will send some links to informative web sites.

She has been a strong supporter of increased use of fossil fuels, yet the McCain campaign has the nerve to say she has ‘green’ policies. The only thing green about Sarah Palin is her lack of experience. She has consistently supported drilling in ANWR, use of coal-burning power plants (as I write this, a new coal plant is being built in her home town of Wasilla), strip mining, and almost anything else that will unnecessarily exploit the diminishing resources of Alaska and destroy its environment.
Prior to her one year as governor of Alaska, she was mayor of Wasilla, a small red neck town outside Anchorage.The average maximum education level of parents of junior high school kids in Wasilla is 10th grade.
Unfortunately, I have to go to Wasilla every week to get groceries and other supplies, so I have continual contact with the people who put Palin in office in the first place. I know what I’m talking about. These people don’t have a concept of the world around them or of the serious issues facing the US. Furthermore, they don’t care. So long as they can go out and hunt their moos e every fall, kill wolves and bears and drive their snow mobiles and ATVs through every corner of the wilderness, they’re happy. I wish I were exaggerating.

Sarah Palin is currently involved in a political corruption scandal. She fired an individual in law enforcement here because she didn’t like how he treated one of her relatives during a divorce. The man’s performance and ability weren’t considered; it was a totally personal firing and is currently under investigation. While the issue isn’t close to the scandal of Ted Steven’s corruption, it shows that Palin isn’t ‘squeaky clean’ and causes me to think there may be more issues that could come to light. Clearly McCain doesn’t care.

When you line Palin up with Biden, the comparison would be laughable if it weren’t so serious. Sarah Palin knows nothing of economics(admittedly a weak area for McCain) , or of international affairs, knows nothing of national government, Social Security, unemployment, health care systems – you name it. The idea of her meeting with heads of foreign governments around the world truly frightens me. In an increasingly dangerous world, with the economy in shambles in the US, Sarah Palin is uniquely UNqualified to be vice president. JohnMcCain is not a young man. Should something happen to him such that the vice president had to step in, it would destroy our country and possibly the world to have someone as inexperienced and inappropriate as Sarah Palin. The choice of Palin is a cheap shot by McCain to try to get Hillary supporters to vote for him. when McCain introduced her today, Palin had the nerve to compare herself with Hillary and
Geraldine Ferraro.

Sarah Palin, you are no Hillary Clinton.

To those of you who, like me, supported Hillary and were upset that she did not get the nomination, please don’t think that Sarah Palin is a worthy substitute. If you supported Hillary, regardless of what you think the media and the Democratic party may have done to undermine her campaign, the person to support now is Obama, not Sarah Palin. To those of you who are independent or undecided, don’t let the choice of Palin sway you in favor of McCain. Choosing her shows how unqualified McCain is to be president. To those of you who are conservative, Iguess you have no choice for president. But please try to see how the poor choice of Palin tells us a great deal about McCain’s judgment. While the political posturing inherent in the choice of Palin is obvious, the more serious issue is the fact that the VP is, literally, a heartbeat away from the presidency. Sarah Palin is totally and unequivocally unqualifi ed to be vice president, let alone president.

I know this is a lengthy and emotional email, but the stakes are high. I thought it might help for all of you, regardless of political affiliation, to know something about Palin from someone who has to live with her administration in Alaska on a daily basis.”

(signed)

As a formal veteran of Desert Storm Era I am appalled at how veterans are treated when they come home. Barack Obama has fought for veterans claiming benefits for PTSD, which is Post Tramactic Stress Disorder. Republicans didn’t want to pay vets for this diagnosis. My ex- husband is also a formal vet who possibly was exposed to something called Mycoplasma fermentans, while serving in the Persian Gulf. This was possibly transferred to me and the child we had a few years later, who have most of the symptoms. None of these things are addressed. The republicans never talked about this. As a Marine I was diagnosed with PTSD by VA, hospitalized while serving and medicated. They still denied my benefits. I served my country for four consecutive years. And I’m recognized as a war-time vet, with good conduct medals. However, I may have to pay a co-pay for any medical services I recieve at the VA Medical Centers. THis is an outrage. I wonder if John Mccain has a co-pay? McCain is not the only vet that served hard. No i wasn’t a POW but I may have symptoms, post military, that I may have to live with for the rest of my life. As well as my ex-husband and child. My heart goes out to the vets that are coming home after this senseless war. I call it PART 2 of the Bush Family Fueds. IT is a hard transition. THere is no red carpet and it is hard as HELL to even get a job. I have never used my veteran’s preferance. That really means nothing. Barack Obama has fought for Vets for years, google it.

I’m a Veteran of the United States of America and I back Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.

There are more qualified Republican women holding local or national positions. To select a women who is less qualified simply because the fact she has 5 children resonates more with a faction within the GOP is insulting to the rest of us women who want the world to see that women can accomplish much, much more than being a mother.

Please note that Hillary did NOT make motherhood the central point of her candidacy. She was accomplishment oriented, leadership oriented, experience oriented….the fact that she also leads a fulfilling life as mother was bonus.

Feminists of any degree should be insulted that the GOP thought picking anything but the most qualified female was acceptable.

There are more qualified Republican women holding local or national positions.

There are more qualified people out there, women and men, than any of the candidates we currently have. But this being a democracy, politics is about more than just your resume. Having a particular image can matter; acknowledging that is not an insult to anyone.

Feminists of any degree should be insulted

Don’t they live in a perpetual state of umbrage anyway? Regardless, I’m thinking that self-identified feminists weren’t going to be voting for McCain in any case.

How dare anyone believe in their wildest dreams that Palin can ever be a stand up woman such as Hillary Clinton.

Not sure what your definition of ’stand up’ is, but someone who busted members of her own party for corruption definitely qualifies. Hillary is successful, but can you show me one instance of her standing for principles at a cost to her or her party? (pursuing naked ambition at a cost to the Democrats doesn’t count).

Hillary platform is to heal America and Americans; not destroy them.

Right, I forgot about that ‘destroy Americans’ plank in the Republican platform. But why are we talking about Hillary’s platform anyway – as I recall she isn’t in the running any more…

My my, the estrogen imbalance is really flowing on this thread, eh? LOL

First off, ladies, Curt said nothing about Hillary. He was merely quoting what Hillary supporters are saying. You can whine all you want about how Palin and Hillary are world’s apart. But the fact is, there are many (i.e. No Quarter, HillaryForum, and PUMA) that find her quite appealing.

Some do it because they despise not only Obama, but what the DNC party has become. Others do it for a forward strategy… defeat Obama in 08, run Hillary in 12. And even others find her pretty darned competitive.

But I suggest each of you speak for yourselves, and yourselves only. Because obviously you’re not in touch with what many other HRC supporters on the other forums are saying…. a small example of which is the subject of this post.