Comments on: ‘Born Alive’ and ‘Partial Birth Abortion’ Barry Beckons! [Reader Post] http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:36:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Pam http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-106199 Pam Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:09:15 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-106199 I just heard this story and wanted to confirm what I thought I heard. This is so morally reprehensible that I cannot image anyone that would think that any woman should be given carte blanch abortion rights. More and more this election is bringing me back to the faith of my youth. It is unthinkable that this is happening here in the United States. If nothing else I thought that doctor's took an oath. It would seem that this goes against the oath to preserve human life. The truly sad thing is that there are men and women out there that are doing more to protect the life of animals then for babies. I will make sure that everyone I know has a way to get to the polls on election day. I just heard this story and wanted to confirm what I thought I heard. This is so morally reprehensible that I cannot image anyone that would think that any woman should be given carte blanch abortion rights. More and more this election is bringing me back to the faith of my youth. It is unthinkable that this is happening here in the United States. If nothing else I thought that doctor’s took an oath. It would seem that this goes against the oath to preserve human life. The truly sad thing is that there are men and women out there that are doing more to protect the life of animals then for babies. I will make sure that everyone I know has a way to get to the polls on election day.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-105709 Dennis Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:42:45 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-105709 Appalling is too weak a word for killing of unborn children. Criminal comes to mind for any abortion that is performed for any reason other than to save the life of the mother. Criminally insane comes to mind for the practice of partial birth abortion and live birth abortion. As members of the human experience we must put a stop to this immediately. As Catholics we must make voting a one issue task. Abortion should be the top concern of "political" issues in this country. Appalling is too weak a word for killing of unborn children. Criminal comes to mind for any abortion that is performed for any reason other than to save the life of the mother. Criminally insane comes to mind for the practice of partial birth abortion and live birth abortion. As members of the human experience we must put a stop to this immediately. As Catholics we must make voting a one issue task. Abortion should be the top concern of “political” issues in this country.

]]> By: Missy http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-105546 Missy Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:00:28 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-105546 This article provides a link to the recently found document that shows that Obama had voted against the BAIPA in committee, contrary to what he has on his campaign website. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2NmMGNkMTdkZWJkZWRkMjRkNjY5NjllNzZlYjkyNmY=&w=MQ== This article provides a link to the recently found document that shows that Obama had voted against the BAIPA in committee, contrary to what he has on his campaign website.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2NmMGNkMTdkZWJkZWRkMjRkNjY5NjllNzZlYjkyNmY=&w=MQ==

]]> By: yonason http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104987 yonason Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:42:03 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104987 stix1972 It's like the Demoncrat lie about "every vote counts" (as long as it won't cost us anything). The hard-core among them have no conscience, so your attempts to appeal to it in those are a waste of time. It's time better spent looking forward, because... When they have no plan for the future, they obsess over the imagined evils of the past... <BLOCKQUOTE>"Lithwick recommended a <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjcxOTZiNzVhMTYzNmM4MGQ1ZDgwNmIzNzgwMDliYmI=" rel="nofollow">massive retrospective investigation</a> of the Bush administration, <b>going through every piece of paper<em>, before moving forward:</em></b>"</BLOCKQUOTE> Not 'while moving forward' mind you, but BEFORE MOVING FORWARD (like "moving forward" would EVER be anything that they would even attempt, let alone accomplish). Their retrograde machinations would serve their purpose, though, and that is of continuing the distraction from actually having to DO anything productive, as well as distracting us from all the evil they wish to perpetrate until it was a done deal. But, what can one expect when the Democrat essence is hate? http://www.brookesnews.com/080906dems.html ...which is why the Black-hating murderous Margaret Sanger felt so at home among them (<a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104730" rel="nofollow">see my #44, above, about her</a>). stix1972

It’s like the Demoncrat lie about “every vote counts” (as long as it won’t cost us anything). The hard-core among them have no conscience, so your attempts to appeal to it in those are a waste of time. It’s time better spent looking forward, because…

When they have no plan for the future, they obsess over the imagined evils of the past…

“Lithwick recommended a massive retrospective investigation of the Bush administration, going through every piece of paper, before moving forward:“

Not ‘while moving forward’ mind you, but BEFORE MOVING FORWARD (like “moving forward” would EVER be anything that they would even attempt, let alone accomplish).

Their retrograde machinations would serve their purpose, though, and that is of continuing the distraction from actually having to DO anything productive, as well as distracting us from all the evil they wish to perpetrate until it was a done deal.

But, what can one expect when the Democrat essence is hate?
http://www.brookesnews.com/080906dems.html
…which is why the Black-hating murderous Margaret Sanger felt so at home among them (see my #44, above, about her).

]]> By: stix1972 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104986 stix1972 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:27:48 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104986 DW haveyou seen waht they are doing in Eurabia, especially that haven of Soclialized Medicine England. thay are refusing to take in people they deem to be not worthy of medical care. The government is saying who gets medical care or not. And they are also euthanizing thse that they deem a burdon on society. It is a slippery slope when you go down this road. DW haveyou seen waht they are doing in Eurabia, especially that haven of Soclialized Medicine England. thay are refusing to take in people they deem to be not worthy of medical care. The government is saying who gets medical care or not.

And they are also euthanizing thse that they deem a burdon on society. It is a slippery slope when you go down this road.

]]> By: yonason http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104983 yonason Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:37:27 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104983 <a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27955" rel="nofollow"><b>UPDATE</b> (to #50</a>) UPDATE (to #50)

]]> By: yonason http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104942 yonason Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:10:21 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104942 <a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/08/obama-on-premature-babies-theyre-not.html" rel="nofollow">OBAMA KILLED THE BILL</A> ...so he could allow the killing of live-born babies. ...and he's LIED about it for the last 4 years!!! OBAMA KILLED THE BILL

…so he could allow the killing of live-born babies.

…and he’s LIED about it for the last 4 years!!!

]]> By: DW 5000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104923 DW 5000 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:55:17 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104923 <blockquote> And don’t think they will stop there. Soon, where they aren’t already, they will be euthanizing the “usless” old people (or just not bothering to keep them alive), and then anyone who they consider “useless.” Then, those who are “dangerous” will be next on their list, a-al Stalin. </blockquote> The next step: flaying conservatives alive and making lampshades out of their skins!

And don’t think they will stop there. Soon, where they aren’t already, they will be euthanizing the “usless” old people (or just not bothering to keep them alive), and then anyone who they consider “useless.” Then, those who are “dangerous” will be next on their list, a-al Stalin.

The next step: flaying conservatives alive and making lampshades out of their skins!

]]> By: Anonymous Female http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104912 Anonymous Female Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:32:24 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104912 <blockquote>That’s your experience. And I’m sorry. I know women who consider having an abortion one of the the best decisions they have made.</blockquote> Did they ever tell you why they felt that way? If that was some years ago, do you suppose they still feel that way now?

That’s your experience. And I’m sorry.

I know women who consider having an abortion one of the the best decisions they have made.

Did they ever tell you why they felt that way? If that was some years ago, do you suppose they still feel that way now?

]]> By: yonason http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104754 yonason Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:09:53 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104754 ZEIG HEINZ, ZERO-BOMBERS A woman who has an unwanted baby and kills it immediately on being born goes to jail for murder. If the same thing happens in an abortion clinic, with the Dr., doing the killing, it's perfectly legal, as per the pro-death Demoncrats like Obama. And don't think they will stop there. Soon, where they aren't already, they will be euthanizing the "usless" old people (or just not bothering to keep them alive), and then anyone who they consider "useless." Then, <a HREF="http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2057819/posts" rel="nofollow">those who are "dangerous" will be next on their list</A>, a-al Stalin. Ain't "change" great?!. ZEIG HEINZ, ZERO-BOMBERS

A woman who has an unwanted baby and kills it immediately on being born goes to jail for murder. If the same thing happens in an abortion clinic, with the Dr., doing the killing, it’s perfectly legal, as per the pro-death Demoncrats like Obama.

And don’t think they will stop there. Soon, where they aren’t already, they will be euthanizing the “usless” old people (or just not bothering to keep them alive), and then anyone who they consider “useless.” Then, those who are “dangerous” will be next on their list, a-al Stalin.

Ain’t “change” great?!.

]]> By: Wordsmith http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104747 Wordsmith Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:29:04 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104747 *ahem* Now who's feeding the moonbats, Mike? *ahem*

Now who’s feeding the moonbats, Mike?

]]> By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104742 Mike's America Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:19:56 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104742 "Arthur" believes allowing a woman to choose to let her live born baby die is a "choice" she should be allowed to make. So what about Andrea Yates who drowned her five children. Was it her "choice" to do that or is there some age limit for the child you would like to impose. A baby that lives one hour outside the womb can be left to die but a child who lives longer is considered murder? Only "Arthur" would defend the indefensible. “Arthur” believes allowing a woman to choose to let her live born baby die is a “choice” she should be allowed to make.

So what about Andrea Yates who drowned her five children. Was it her “choice” to do that or is there some age limit for the child you would like to impose.

A baby that lives one hour outside the womb can be left to die but a child who lives longer is considered murder?

Only “Arthur” would defend the indefensible.

]]> By: yonason http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104730 yonason Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:05:45 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104730 DEMOCRAT NAZI MARGARET SANGER'S "LOVE" OF BLACK AMERICANS... http://whygrr.blogspot.com/2007/03/liberals-meet-your-heroes-vol-1.html ...supporting documentation http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/2007/07/margaret-sanger-to-ku-klux-klan-mission.html http://www.klanparenthood.com/Planned_Parenthood_Ku_Klux_Klan_KKK_Nazis/ http://www.spectacle.org/997/richmond.html http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6738 http://www.bloomington.in.us/~lgthscac/plannedparenthood.htm OBAMA IS NOT BETTER... http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/2008/07/jill-stanek-pro-life-expert-on-obama.html DEMOCRAT NAZI MARGARET SANGER’S “LOVE” OF BLACK AMERICANS…
http://whygrr.blogspot.com/2007/03/liberals-meet-your-heroes-vol-1.html

…supporting documentation
http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/2007/07/margaret-sanger-to-ku-klux-klan-mission.html
http://www.klanparenthood.com/Planned_Parenthood_Ku_Klux_Klan_KKK_Nazis/
http://www.spectacle.org/997/richmond.html
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6738
http://www.bloomington.in.us/~lgthscac/plannedparenthood.htm

OBAMA IS NOT BETTER…
http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/2008/07/jill-stanek-pro-life-expert-on-obama.html

]]> By: yonason http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104723 yonason Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:49:37 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104723 Stoner Stammered -- <blockquote>Yonason typed: ABORTION IS ALMOST ALWAYS MURDER! ‘Almost always’? Either is or isn’t. Clearly it isn’t.</blockquote> It looks like my response really didn't get posted due to system glitching. Oh, well, it was... In the event one has to abort in order to save the life of the mother it is a case of self defense, and is hence not murder. Perhaps one could consider abortion in cases of rape, as well but if it can't be considered "self defense" it is murder. Stoner Stammered —
Yonason typed:

ABORTION IS ALMOST ALWAYS MURDER!

‘Almost always’?

Either is or isn’t.

Clearly it isn’t.

It looks like my response really didn’t get posted due to system glitching. Oh, well, it was…

In the event one has to abort in order to save the life of the mother it is a case of self defense, and is hence not murder. Perhaps one could consider abortion in cases of rape, as well but if it can’t be considered “self defense” it is murder.

]]> By: mlajoie2 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/07/%e2%80%98born-alive%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98partial-birth-abortion%e2%80%99-barry-beckons-reader-post/#comment-104344 mlajoie2 Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:28:17 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=6488#comment-104344 Should one of my "choices" or "rights" be to kill the innocent? What's my rationale? What are the ramifications? I have the "right" to free speech, but is that right "absolute"; do I have the "right" to yell fire in a crowded room? Of course not! Where does my right to life conflict with your freedom of choice? Is it only the voiceless or powerless whose right to life means nothing in the face of my freedom to choose? You're beginning to be a real bother to me; I have to support you, feed you, put up with you. No more! I'm going to 'terminate' you, to 'solve' the problem you are. I have the choice. I have the right. Why? because....I SAY SO. You think slavery is wrong? Don't have a slave! It's my choice! It's my right! Dred Scott SAYS I can do it. It's clear it's going nowhere soon and there's nothing you can do about it. So shut up and go away....Sound familiar??? Should one of my “choices” or “rights” be to kill the innocent? What’s my rationale? What are the ramifications? I have the “right” to free speech, but is that right “absolute”; do I have the “right” to yell fire in a crowded room? Of course not! Where does my right to life conflict with your freedom of choice? Is it only the voiceless or powerless whose right to life means nothing in the face of my freedom to choose? You’re beginning to be a real bother to me; I have to support you, feed you, put up with you. No more! I’m going to ‘terminate’ you, to ’solve’ the problem you are. I have the choice. I have the right. Why? because….I SAY SO.

You think slavery is wrong? Don’t have a slave! It’s my choice! It’s my right! Dred Scott SAYS I can do it. It’s clear it’s going nowhere soon and there’s nothing you can do about it. So shut up and go away….Sound familiar???

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