Another problem with the left is that they are often more likely to use obscenities in their speech and writing.

Right, because speech and writings are better monotonous and unimpassioned.

Neither do mosts of the other Leftists, of whom he is only one of MANY, who are trying to “control” free markets (at which pt they are no longer “free”) rather than focusing on punishing bad behavior.

Another problem with the left is that they are often more likely to use obscenities in their speech and writing.

“Funny! Naturally, that’s how I view your version of Democracy and capitalism.” –M.D.

NATURALLY

The Left is trying.

Assemblyman Lloyd Levine is an asshole who obviously doesn’t understand economics if it came and bit him on the ass.

So we agree that forcing people to switch would be wrong. I trust the markets enough to make owning an old light the economic equivalent of using Lead Acid batteries to power a cell phone.

Like when Gene Wilder, in “Frisco Kid” was carrying a knife and chasing a wild bird, saying, “Here, chicken. I don’t want to hurt you. I just want to make you Kosher.“

Funny! Naturally, that’s how I view your version of Democracy and capitalism.

Bingo!

Like when Gene Wilder, in “Frisco Kid” was carrying a knife and chasing a wild bird, saying, “Here, chicken. I don’t want to hurt you. I just want to make you Kosher.”

The sad part is, DePaula probably believes his own propaganda.

“Who is forcing you to buy brand X of lightbulbs, cars, toilets, showerheads, etc? “ — MD

The Left is trying.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/31/tech/main2418348.shtml

…for the “good of the planet” …yeah, right! …like any of them knows what is “good for the planet.” …talk about arrogance.

But then, they don’t care that the money they receive to destroy the world is dirtier than that from those who are trying to build it. But at least they now know that we know, and care.

Who is forcing you to buy brand X of lightbulbs, cars, toilets, showerheads, etc? To my knowledge you are free to buy whatever the hell is sold, but that doesn’t make you immune to paying for electric, gas, and water bills (respectively) when they come. Not all options are created equally. If you’re going to be wasteful with the resources you have access to, well then, you’ll pay for that wastefulness. Simple economy, my friend.

Perhaps destruction of capitalism would be more accurate that would also result in the destruction of the freedoms, and democracy, of the West.

Another strawman. No one wants to destroy democracy, capitalism, et. al. But I do think that your version of them is pretty shitty.

Are you perhaps referring to Yonason’s comment #22 where he said that the goal of environmentalists is: “destruction of the West”???

Perhaps destruction of capitalism would be more accurate that would also result in the destruction of the freedoms, and democracy, of the West.

State control and planning over every element of our lives is already becoming commonplace and environmentalists want to jack it up another few notches.

They have already decreed what kind of lightbulbs we can buy. What kind of cars we can drive. How our toilets and shower heads will work and what kind of washing machine and air conditioners we can own.

They already threaten private property rights which are the most basic set of freedoms that have enabled our capitalist system to be so much more successful than any other form of government.

And it’s that success which has generated all of the great discoveries that have helped to alleviate disease, povery, illiteracy and hunger worldwide.

Environmentalists would risk tossing all that away without even realizing it and then we would be left incapable of being the benefactor the world in times of need.

You think the Chinese are going to pick up the slack?

Think again. Unless of course you think forced organ donations from the hundreds of thousands put to death by the Chinese in the past decades has been a boon to mankind.

You’ve deluded yourselves to absurd proportions my friends. And what do you have to show for it?

Well, if they didn’t before, they do now. But then, they don’t care that the money they receive to destroy the world is dirtier than that from those who are trying to build it. But at least they now know that we know, and care.

“I am sure just like the anti-war funding from Communist and Marxists does not deter them either.” — Stix1972 (#30, below)

Not only that, they’re hearts probably skip a beat at the thrill.

Interesting you should ask. Here’s some info…

Who the Lefty environmental groups are…
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?catId=60&type=group

This section of DiscoverTheNetworks explores the biocentric (as opposed to anthropocentric) agenda of radical environmentalism, a movement whose goal is not the advancement of human health, human happiness, and human life, but rather the creation of a world where “nature” is deemed to have “inherent value” that ought to be revered for its own sake, irrespective of any benefit to mankind. Radical environmentalists espouse “deep ecology,” which asserts that the environment is an end in itself and that man is an intruder—if not a rapist and despoiler– who should have no greater priority than any other species. From this axiom, they reason that any human action that changes the environment is necessarily immoral.

Where they get their money…
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Thinkmap%20SDK%202.5%20Standard%20Edition/webapp/TM-1VER/index.asp?keyword=Ford%20Foundation

(That last is a little “busy” but it’s packed with informaiton. Use patience, and be amazed at who is funding, and by how very much, the destruction of America in particular and Western culture in general.)

Busy little beavers, aren’t they?!

“Sorry, I have a hard time taking seriously groups that receive funding from the oil and gas industry.” — Michael DePaula

You believe that lie?

LOL.

Then you probably believe Al Gore is doing what he does out of the kindness of his idda bitty heart?

That’s all I need to know who you are, and the level of your “expertise.”
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The choice….

I can believe these guys
http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2007/globalwarming/SkepticalScientists.asp
…or some conspiricy theorist socialist gad-fly off the street

Oh WHY am I faced with such DIFFICULT decisions???!!!

And where does all the money come from for environmentalists????

Invest your time in learning material from people who actually know what they are talking about….
http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=394
…and avoid investing time in long winded drivel that tells you nothing, or short pissy saying based on that nothing.

Sorry, I have a hard time taking seriously groups that receive funding from the oil and gas industry.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Friends_of_Science

The late Natalie Grant Wraga once wrote, “Protection of the environment has become the principal tool for attack against the West and all it stands for. Protection of the environment may be used as a pretext to adopt a series of measures designed to undermine the industrial base of developed nations. It may also serve to introduce malaise by lowering their standard of living and implanting communist values.”

And who was this person?

Natalie Grant Wraga (who died in 2002 at age 101) was an internationally-recognized expert on the art of disinformation. In her Washington Post obituary, Herbert Romerstein — veteran intelligence expert in the legislative and executive branches of government — described Grant/Wraga as “one of our leading authorities” on Soviet deceit.

FROM The Marxist Roots of the Global Warming Scare

In short, the conservation movement has been hijacked by socialist extremists, and their usfull idiots, as a vehicle for the destruction of the West.