McCain risked his political future just to be right on Iraq. Obama can’t say the same!

If you haven’t seen Wordsmith’s report on Obama still insisting that even though the surge worked he would still have opposed it if we had to do it all over again.

This calls to question the “judgement” that Obama claims makes him fit to lead.

McCain is hitting back hard (finally):



McCain: “I had the courage and political judgement to say that I would rather lose a political campaign than lose a war. It seems to me Senator Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign.”

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41 comments so far

SpideyTerry
 1 

Does the phrase “It’s on now” mean anything to anyone?

July 22nd, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Arthurstone
 2 

‘It seems to me’ that we have just over 3 months of Republican smears to endure before the election.

July 22nd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Leah
 3 

You mean alongside the Democratic flip-flops and inconsistencies?

July 22nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
 4 

Leah: In “Arthur’s” world any criticism of a Democrat is considered a smear.

In his world it’s only natural to show nothing but adoration and obedience to the messiah.

Sieg Heil Artie!

July 22nd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
yonason
 5 

FILTH & SMEARS GALORE

O’BUMMER IS A SCHEISS MAGNET, SO IF SOMEONE SUPPORTS HIM, YOU CAN PRETTY SURE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE “MADE OF”

July 22nd, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Scrapiron
 6 

Hussein O can flip flop, retreat. lie and say he didn’t say that, but he can’t change his position on the war. His life and the lives of his family are invested in doing whatever is necessary to lose. The Moonbat’s will kill him and his family as sure as he drives the knife deeper into their backs than he has already. I understand there is one man among the unbreathing that they considered a threat to Hussein.

I’m still confused on why he would release a phony (confirmed forgery) birth record. Was he even born in Hawaii? Hussein’s past record, or lack of records, stinks to high heaven. Could he have moved to an Islamic country in his mother’s stomach and not at a young age? No conspiricy, just a lot of unanswered question on the blogs that Hussein could clear up with a few honest answers, truth seems beyond his ability.

July 22nd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
yonason
 7 

Scrapiron

And Kerry has never released his complete mil record, either. Worms of a feather, and all that… It does make me want to see his real birth cirt., I mean if it’s illegal to be pres., without being a citizen, then I would think we have a right to take this to court, if need be. Maybe someone can organize a class action suit to demand it? That would be “sweet,” especially if it’s got info that would invalidate his candidacy.

Oh, oh! I had a terrible thought. What if Obama, who we all know is a useless nothing, isn’t the guy they want, but his VEEP will be? They wouldn’t even have to kill Obie, just produce his COLB after the election, and the VEEP would automatically be pres. (anyone use that idea for a thriller novel and I’ll let you know where to send the check for the idea).

July 22nd, 2008 at 4:35 pm
 8 

Just remember anything true about a Democrat is a smear. Just look at what they did the Swift Boat for Truth members.

Another comment jacking.

Go to Strata-sphere for information on the Birth Certificate. It is not a fake.
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5690

July 22nd, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Arthurstone
 9 

You kids are funny.

I make a little remark about three months of Republican smears and you fall all over yourselves proving me correct.

From Mike: “Sieg Heil’

From Scrapiron: John Kerry’s incomplete military records, Obama’s phony birth certificate and t he likelihood of his moving to a Muslim country in his mother stomach (sic.) Earth to Scrapiron: Babies don’t live in their Mother’s stomach! And that isn’t another Liberal lie. You can check.

stix1972: The ‘abuse’ of the Swift Boat for Truth’ members.

Well done folks!

July 22nd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
 10 

What abuse. Has anyone every proved them wrong??? And did Kerry ever release his Records. He said he would a few years ago.

And I think the whole Birth Certificate thing is ridiculous. It is not like “Rathergate”.

July 22nd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
 11 

AS usual Artie is distorting and bobbing and weaving.

I hope you don’t drive in that condition Artie.

Perhaps if you want to see what a real smear looks like you can examine the Obama web site, the link to which Yonason provided in comment #5 above:

The following is from the official Barack Hussein Obama web site:

The kike filth are trying to steal this election from us. But this is our time. The kike live in fear of peace. They fear happiness. The thought of people living happily in peace without killing each other frightens the horde of kike that runs our government. But when pieces of kike use their kike manipulation tactics to stop Barack, it is time to strike back. There is nothing a kike army can do when faced with progressive people who are determined to achieve peace. We will achieve lasting peace.

Notice the difference Artie?

Now that Artie has been educated, we will return this thread to the topic of the post.

July 22nd, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Fit fit
 12 

My Friends,

McCain would rather let American troops die than lose this campaign.

July 22nd, 2008 at 7:20 pm
yonason
 13 

Precisely, Mike’s America!

Stoner has no objection when one of his fellow floaters makes a much bigger and more toxic stink than anything we are capable of, though are falsely accused of by them all the time.

July 22nd, 2008 at 7:29 pm
yonason
 14 

“Go to Strata-sphere for information on the Birth Certificate. It is not a fake.” — stix1972

He didn’t say it wasn’t a fake, and if he did, he shouldn’t have.

He said only that one can’t tell EITHER WAY from an internet copy, which means that unless Obie produces the real thing, presents it to the proper witnesses and has them validate it, it might as well be fake. As the copy itself says, “any alterations invalidate this cirtificate” and an un-notarized copy is a form of “alteration.” So, yes, it is a fraud.

July 22nd, 2008 at 7:44 pm
DW 5000
 15 

The following is from the official Barack Hussein Obama web site:

The kike filth are trying to steal this election from us. But this is our time. The kike live in fear of peace. They fear happiness. The thought of people living happily in peace without killing each other frightens the horde of kike that runs our government. But when pieces of kike use their kike manipulation tactics to stop Barack, it is time to strike back. There is nothing a kike army can do when faced with progressive people who are determined to achieve peace. We will achieve lasting peace.

Hmm. Possibly. It’s hard to tell, though, because your link goes to Atlas Shrugs, while her link goes to Doug Ross’s blog, which in turn links to Little Green Footballs, which doesn’t turn that page up anywhere. That’s what you call a “wingnut circle jerk.” Your poutrage feeds off someone else’s which fed off someone else’s which started–where?

July 22nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
DW 5000
 16 

Could he have moved to an Islamic country in his mother’s stomach and not at a young age?

???!!!???

I hail thee, Scrapiron, oh, King of the Nuts!

July 22nd, 2008 at 7:59 pm
yonason
 17 

WD40

“Your poutrage feeds off someone else’s which fed off someone else’s which started–where?”

The reason, as I’m sure you know, is that when people get offended, and it attracts attention, then they erase the evidence, which is why the screen shots were taken OF OBAMA’S WEB SITE (which is the “where” it started) rather than relying on the link being there.

And that is just one of many examples of the scum Obama attracts. Some of those in the Black community see the objectionable characters who gravitate to Obama, and are sounding the alarm about it.

If only there were more.

Note that if WD were honest, he/she/it would look for more examples. Using a know propaganda technique to “expose” a legitimate counter espionage one shows WD for what he/she/it is, “one of them” (or a useful idiot, which in effect is the same thing).

http://husaria.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/obama-campaign-sanctioned-anti-semitic-and-other-hate-speech/
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/06/hate-mongers-for-obama-or-obamas-anti.html
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/06/08/will-media-report-anti-semitic-article-obamas-website
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2028539/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1987939/posts
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/obamas_website_hub_for_hate_terror_and_antisemitism/index.html
etc., etc.

July 22nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
 18 

Oh yeah Dim Wit… all those folks who posted the link to the Obama page with the “kike” rant were lying….

Just another example of how you folks exempt yourselves from the standards you daily demand of us.

Now, if you don’t mind, I am going to repeat the last line of the post:

McCain: “I had the courage and political judgement to say that I would rather lose a political campaign than lose a war. It seems to me Senator Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign.”

You can push your conspiracy theories about right wingers faking Obama web pages some other time.

July 22nd, 2008 at 8:47 pm
DW 5000
 19 

The reason, as I’m sure you know, is that when people get offended, and it attracts attention, then they erase the evidence, which is why the screen shots were taken OF OBAMA’S WEB SITE (which is the “where” it started) rather than relying on the link being there.

This looks like a screenshot from the Obama site, as well. IT MUST BE TRUE, THEN!!! I can’t believe that Obama had the guts to post those quotes. He’s a brave man.

Note to Mike: by your own petard shall ye be hoist.

Note that if WD were honest, he/she/it would look for more examples.

Following three or four consecutive links seemed like enough to establish the jerking of the circle. It’s not my fault if you can’t link to anything other than links to other links to further links. I’m not interested in doing your job for you.

Using a know propaganda technique to “expose” a legitimate counter espionage one shows WD for what he/she/it is, “one of them”

…And that just reads like one of those badly-translated instruction manuals for putting together a stereo. Dude: that’s not even English. You get to edit your posts. Give it a try.

July 22nd, 2008 at 8:59 pm
yonason
 20 

OH DIM OF WIT

Obama didn’t post those. His sick supporters did. He is a magnate for garbage and hate. And I gave you other references.

Also, consider his other supporters…

Paleostinian terrorists
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/barack-obamas-gaza-campaign-office/
Hamas
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/04/020315.php
Libya
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7378960543702619484
socialists
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/07/somethings-not-quite-right-about-that.html
crooks
http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=20080404_barack_obama.htm
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/29/ayers-obama-philanthropy-corruption-what-big-media-refuses-to-disclose-about-obamas-checkered-past-in-chicago-machine-politics/
thugs
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/2008/06/barack-obama-condones-coordinated.html
domestic terrorists
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/04/ayres_and_obamaits_not_the_cri.html
Racists
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/04/barack_hussein_3.html
Black Supremists and other racists
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_o.html
etc., etc.

And he’s a liar.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/unbelievable-obama-denies-he-flip.html

If all we had were that one web site, you might have a case, but because all his friends are VERY VERY BAD PEOPLE, you’re objection is the objection of a fool or al liar.

Now, will sombody please hit that droid’s reset button!

July 22nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
yonason
 21 

You['ve] get to edit your posts. Give it a try

GOT ME THERE, BUT…

…you have to edit your conscience, if you have one. (see my previous post when they dig it out of spam-block).

July 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 pm
 22 

Again, Dim Wit’s effort is yet another transparent effort to hijack this post and distract us all from one simple message:

McCain: “I had the courage and political judgement to say that I would rather lose a political campaign than lose a war. It seems to me Senator Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign.”

July 22nd, 2008 at 10:13 pm
yonason
 23 

LOLOLOL

Thanks! Good one!

P.S. can you dig my last one out of spam-block? It ws to this thread. Thx, and g’night.

I LIKED IT BETTER THE OTHER WAY!

July 22nd, 2008 at 10:14 pm
yonason
 24 

O’Bomber’s supporters are apparently all idiots (or malicious)
http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/04/25/the-total-witlessness-of-obama-apologists/

July 22nd, 2008 at 10:21 pm
 25 

“all idiots (or malicious)”

Or?

July 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
yonason
 26 

lol
both, of course

July 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Wordsmith
 27 

Mike shouted:

McCain: “I had the courage and political judgement to say that I would rather lose a political campaign than lose a war. It seems to me Senator Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign.”

Can you post that any louder, Mike?

People should keep in mind how pessimistic public opinion was, at the time President Bush announced the new strategy and troop surge, and how McCain did stake his political neck out on it.

July 22nd, 2008 at 11:47 pm
 28 

You can make a billboard out of it and the trolls will still spout out nonsense.

July 23rd, 2008 at 6:35 am
 29 

Wordsmith: I think Stix’s answer pretty much says it.

You will have noticed that every time we get a very clear and irrefutable distinction between McCain and Obama the neocommies show up wiuth their noise machine.

They’re like children who don’t want to hear something and stick their fingers in their ears and shout “lalalalalalalalala” to keep from hearing anything that might upset their apple cart.

They’ve built Obama’s candidacy like a house of cards. Or I as like to say, a house of canards.

And they can’t afford to let the wind of truth blow too close to that fragile construction of lies, false hopes and demagougery.

July 23rd, 2008 at 7:20 am
Arthurstone
 30 

Mike-

How much courage does it take to *say* I would rather lose a political campaign than a war?

Talk about meaningless rhetoric.

July 23rd, 2008 at 9:25 am
 31 

Athurstone do you have a clue???? Obama is saying anything ande verything to everone to get elected and McCain is taking a stand on principle.

We do not elect people to do exactly waht we sayand tell them to do. That is mob rule, we have a Democratic Republic, in which we vote people to vote their conscience, not for us to tell them exactly what to do. And if that means losing an election as McCain has said, that is how the country should work. More power to him. I can not stand politicians changing their views every other day as Obama has.

We need more history lessons here again.

Come by when you actually get out of Obama crotch long enough to actually say something intelligent.

July 23rd, 2008 at 9:32 am
 32 

McCain didn’t give a speech “Arthur.”

McCain is standing on a record of ACTION.

Compare that to the empty suit you worship blindly.

July 23rd, 2008 at 9:40 am
Wordsmith
 33 

Arthur,

Do you recall the time period when McCain had made that statement? After Bush’s SotU 2007 speech about the new change in strategy, only 38% of Americans approved of it according to Gallup; and for the first time, a plurality of Americans- 47-49%, believed that the U.S. was likely to lose the war. With the war being unpopular, political cowards who blow with the wind, could easily cast their lot in with the mood of the public. McCain didn’t do that. He staked his presidential-aspirant neck out, because he put the importance of America winning a war as being far more important than his presidential aspiration.

That takes character, Arthur. It doesn’t mean you have to vote for him, or agree with his politics. But it should command some goddamn respect out of your partisan peabrain.

July 23rd, 2008 at 9:56 am
Arthurstone
 34 

Mike, defying reality, typed:

McCain didn’t give a speech “Arthur.”

I hate to break it to you Mike but McCain did indeed give a speech and you provided an actual quote of the speech where he *said* what he said.

But hey it’s your thread and if I’ve learned anything about you it’s to that you will ignore your own words as they become, as one of your heroes would say, ‘inoperative’.

July 23rd, 2008 at 10:10 am
Arthurstone
 35 

wordsmith re: John McCain typed:

That takes character, Arthur. It doesn’t mean you have to vote for him, or agree with his politics. But it should command some goddamn respect out of your partisan peabrain.

Respect? For the tag line where he suggests his political opponent is a traitor?

I am giving the man exactly the respect he deserves.

I particularly enjoy the ‘victory’ and ‘honor’ part.

I also enjoy the blurring and exaggeration of just what the ’surge’ has accomplished.

July 23rd, 2008 at 10:21 am
 36 

“Arthur” You’re just playing your silly little game again in an attempt to refocus attention away from McCain’s words.

Yes, he uttered the WORDS in a speech, but his RECORD is one of ACTIONS.

Again, I realize in the fantasy world of la la liberalism that you inhabit the distinction between a man’s record and a man’s speeches are lost.

In McCain, his words match his actions and his record.

And since Wordsmith asked if I could shout this any louder I am going to give it a try. Perhaps you ought to read the words and reflect on McCain’s record before trotting your ignorance out for all to see again Artie!

McCain: “I had the courage

and political judgement to say

that I would rather lose a

political campaign than

lose a war.

It seems to me Senator

Obama would rather

lose a war in order to

win a political campaign.”

July 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Arthurstone
 37 

What size is that font Mike?

July 23rd, 2008 at 12:21 pm
yonason
 38 

Stoner is just one of those smarmy arrogant narcissists who prefer to mock others rather than contribute anything. And why would he try to contribute, anyway, when, with his limited abilities, he would only embarrass himself? I mean, just go back and look at his ignorant comments on who lead Civil Rights, or how we are exaggerating the bigotry and hate of Obama’s supporters. Did he step in it then, or what?! Yes, it’s safer for him to just make irrelevant snide remarks from an intellectual distance that stroke his overblown ego without revealing the profound depth of his ignorance and malice.

But, guess what, stoner, you haven’t gotten what you stepped in off your paws. We can still smell ya.

July 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm
 39 

Yonason: You brilliantly captured the essence of “Arthur” and most of the leftwing nattering nabobs of negativism that lurk here.

July 23rd, 2008 at 6:35 pm

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