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		<title>By: Arthurstone</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100342</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthurstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, quite rightly, typed:

&#039;Is “Arthur” making SMEARS again????&#039;



Quite right. Quite right.

My mistake.

What would P.J. O&#039;Rourke would think?

Probably take my side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, quite rightly, typed:</p>
<p>&#8216;Is “Arthur” making SMEARS again????&#8217;</p>
<p>Quite right. Quite right.</p>
<p>My mistake.</p>
<p>What would P.J. O&#8217;Rourke would think?</p>
<p>Probably take my side.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100330</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &quot;Arthur&quot; making SMEARS again????

Tsk, tsk, tsk!

For SHAME!

Always quick to point the finger at others you would think Artie would be a bit more careful himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#8220;Arthur&#8221; making SMEARS again????</p>
<p>Tsk, tsk, tsk!</p>
<p>For SHAME!</p>
<p>Always quick to point the finger at others you would think Artie would be a bit more careful himself.</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100323</link>
		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes McCain is a media whore, so is every politician.  Obama is a arrogant naive politician that thinks he is already president and the MSM follows him around like little puppy and slobbers on his feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes McCain is a media whore, so is every politician.  Obama is a arrogant naive politician that thinks he is already president and the MSM follows him around like little puppy and slobbers on his feet.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthurstone</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100316</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthurstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fit fit typed:

McCain used to be a media whore.



Still is.

But business is a little slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fit fit typed:</p>
<p>McCain used to be a media whore.</p>
<p>Still is.</p>
<p>But business is a little slow.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100305</link>
		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain used to be a media whore.  Now that &quot;his base&quot; has a new hero he&#039;s pouting like a spoiled brat.  He&#039;s even decided &lt;a href=&quot;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/tales_from_the_jv_squad_no_pre.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; to take his ball and go home&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain used to be a media whore.  Now that &#8220;his base&#8221; has a new hero he&#8217;s pouting like a spoiled brat.  He&#8217;s even decided <a href="http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/tales_from_the_jv_squad_no_pre.php" rel="nofollow"> to take his ball and go home</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100302</link>
		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t dispute anything Schippert had to say.  Steve Schippert is not John McCain.  John McCain consistantly confuses his facts on Iraq.  It does matter if anyone else in the universe writes wonderfully profound insights on Iraq, it doesn&#039;t  change the issue that John McCain struggles daily to get the facts straight in his own mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t dispute anything Schippert had to say.  Steve Schippert is not John McCain.  John McCain consistantly confuses his facts on Iraq.  It does matter if anyone else in the universe writes wonderfully profound insights on Iraq, it doesn&#8217;t  change the issue that John McCain struggles daily to get the facts straight in his own mind.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100285</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of  course likewise if 90% of Americans wish to watch the left of center news then I say let them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of  course likewise if 90% of Americans wish to watch the left of center news then I say let them.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100284</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans have many different choices from where to get there news however some seem to think that those choices should be somehow limited in the interest of &quot;fairness&quot;. Fox News attracts about 10% of the prime time news hour watchers. As for talk radio being &quot;unfair&quot; I have no problem with it I think it is a non issue, if 12 million Americans want to watch Rush  I say let them. If MSM wants to mock Bush and thinks that it can turn a profit doing so I say let them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans have many different choices from where to get there news however some seem to think that those choices should be somehow limited in the interest of &#8220;fairness&#8221;. Fox News attracts about 10% of the prime time news hour watchers. As for talk radio being &#8220;unfair&#8221; I have no problem with it I think it is a non issue, if 12 million Americans want to watch Rush  I say let them. If MSM wants to mock Bush and thinks that it can turn a profit doing so I say let them.</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
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		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Fit Fit,
Did you read anything that Steve Schippert wrote, or did you just pass over that and go to HUFFPO and slobber over their great historical prowess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Fit Fit,<br />
Did you read anything that Steve Schippert wrote, or did you just pass over that and go to HUFFPO and slobber over their great historical prowess.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100264</link>
		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stix1972,

You don&#039;t have to listen to Huffington, listen to McCain own words... This is not a &quot;gaffe&quot;, or poor reasoning, this is flat at wrong on the history.

&lt;blockquote&gt;McCain: I don&#039;t know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarlane (phonetic) was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that&#039;s just a matter of history. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The meeting he referenced took place months before the surge was even announced.  What&#039;s interesting is how arrogant McCain is in spewing his mistake.  His frustration on losing the one issue voters favored him on is palpable.  This is about him saving face, not winning the war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stix1972,</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to listen to Huffington, listen to McCain own words&#8230; This is not a &#8220;gaffe&#8221;, or poor reasoning, this is flat at wrong on the history.</p>
<blockquote><p>McCain: I don&#8217;t know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarlane (phonetic) was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that&#8217;s just a matter of history. </p></blockquote>
<p>The meeting he referenced took place months before the surge was even announced.  What&#8217;s interesting is how arrogant McCain is in spewing his mistake.  His frustration on losing the one issue voters favored him on is palpable.  This is about him saving face, not winning the war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100246</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Arthur&quot; that the first thing you have said in years that I agree with.

Don&#039;t you think folks like me warned McCain for YEARS that the media would turn on him the minute he stopped criticizing conservatives and ran for President against a Democrat?

We all know what two faced liars you lefties are and the media is no different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Arthur&#8221; that the first thing you have said in years that I agree with.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think folks like me warned McCain for YEARS that the media would turn on him the minute he stopped criticizing conservatives and ran for President against a Democrat?</p>
<p>We all know what two faced liars you lefties are and the media is no different.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthurstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthurstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Gramm was right.

McCain has gone steady with the alleged mainstream media for years. &#039;Maverick&#039;, &#039;straight shooter&#039;, &#039;Honest John&#039;, etc. All media contrived narratives obscuring the fact McCain is yet another in a seemingly endless list of reactionary conservatives. But a heckuva of nice guy. Whatever.

And now he isn&#039;t getting the proper attention &amp; it&#039;s fun to watch him try and recapture those golden moments.

Waaahhhhh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Gramm was right.</p>
<p>McCain has gone steady with the alleged mainstream media for years. &#8216;Maverick&#8217;, &#8217;straight shooter&#8217;, &#8216;Honest John&#8217;, etc. All media contrived narratives obscuring the fact McCain is yet another in a seemingly endless list of reactionary conservatives. But a heckuva of nice guy. Whatever.</p>
<p>And now he isn&#8217;t getting the proper attention &amp; it&#8217;s fun to watch him try and recapture those golden moments.</p>
<p>Waaahhhhh.</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/22/how-about-a-fairness-doctrine-for-the-mainstream-media/#comment-100225</link>
		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fir Fit get a life and do not take anything from The HUFFPO as truth

Sen. Obama, Meet Steve Schippert   [Andy McCarthy]

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mark Levin had this on the radio last night.  Our friend Steve Schippert, a former Marine who blogs at his terrific site, Threats Watch, as well as at the Tank on NRO, provided this stirring history lesson yesterday — debunking Obama&#039;s claim that the Anbar Awakening was somehow a result of his plan for encouraging Iraqi political progress:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I would remind the candidate that the Anbar Salvation Council (which later grew exponentially and developed into al-Sahwa al-Iraq - the Iraq Awakening) started with one man, Sheikh Abdul Sattar Abu al-Risha, and seventy men fighting al-Qaeda in defense of their families, not in pursuit of a ‘political’ anything. They simply wanted to live and end al-Qaeda’s assassination and murdering spree against their families and tribe. Sheikh Abdul Sattar, later assassinated by al-Qaeda in Iraq , had seen 10 family members, including 4 brothers, killed by al-Qaeda for their cooperation with US forces. He had had enough. 

Obama’s plan - unoriginal and pieced together like a quilt from others against the Iraq war - was entirely Baghdad-centric, about laws and revenue sharing and conferences. The Anbar Awakening had nothing to do with Baghdad when they began and when they turned the neighborhood tides in Ramadi and elsewhere in Anbar province. It was about killing the terrorists before the terrorists killed them. One must, after all, live to ultimately see progress on any scale beyond one’s neighborhoods.

Obama wanted laws written, press conferences, and an immediate pull back of US troops. As Senator Chuck Schumer so brilliantly said at the time about ‘the plan,’ US forces were to withdraw post-haste to the periphery “in more of a counterterrorism role.” This would have abandoned the Anbar Salvation Council - and Anbar Sunnis and Shi’a alike - entirely. It would have been feeding them to the bloodthirsty wolves of al-Qaeda so that domestic American political figures could champion themselves as ‘ending a war’ and conducting business “in more of a counterterrorism role.” 

This is precisely what I tried to scream when I wrote “This Is Counterterrorism, Senator” over a year ago for National Review Online. And winning the counterinsurgency is about aligning a population with us. Neither of these, counterterrorism nor counterinsurgency, could have been successfully addressed by ‘The Plan’ put forth by Obama and others in opposition to The Surge. The Surge was all about protecting the population within their own neighborhoods, while ‘The Plan’ was about abandoning said population to complete animals unassisted. Yet Obama - and surely others - would oppose it all over again.

The Iraqis have done what they have done for themselves in spite of the likes of Obama, Schumer, Pelosi and all the rest. What’s more, now that The Surge has accomplished much of what it set out to do to help the Iraqis - again in spite of Obama, Schumer, Pelosi and the rest - a presidential candidate who opposed the surge, would still oppose The Surge and had absolutely no clue about the Anbar Salvation Council when it was pleading and begging for US support (since at least September of 2006) wants to champion their success as somehow his brainchild and a sign of the political development he envisioned? 

One is left to suppose that he overlooks the fact that so many in Anbar and throughout Iraq are alive in spite of attempts to push such a sacrificial ‘Plan.’ There’s no other way to describe it. Dead people - crucified, baked and beheaded - do not live to contribute to ‘political progress.’ Sheikh Abdul Sattar - and today, his brother Sheikh Ahmed al-Rishawi - understood this. Too many Americans seem flip to dismiss this comfortably from afar.

The Anbar Salvation Council didn’t have a damn thing to do with political resolution. It needed to simply survive first; family by family, town by town, tribe by tribe. The movement that eventually saved Iraq laid ignored and unsupported until General David Petraeus changed that when he arrived to command The Surge that Obama said he would still oppose. 

Obama’s (et al) ‘plan’ and ‘political’ demands would have fed them to the wolves, slaughtered with their families while we were to have breathed a sigh of relief that the war was finally over. Funny thing about the Iraqis: They want to live, no matter what our politicians profess.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

07/23 06:45 AM
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fir Fit get a life and do not take anything from The HUFFPO as truth</p>
<p>Sen. Obama, Meet Steve Schippert   [Andy McCarthy]</p>
<blockquote><p>Mark Levin had this on the radio last night.  Our friend Steve Schippert, a former Marine who blogs at his terrific site, Threats Watch, as well as at the Tank on NRO, provided this stirring history lesson yesterday — debunking Obama&#8217;s claim that the Anbar Awakening was somehow a result of his plan for encouraging Iraqi political progress:</p>
<blockquote><p>I would remind the candidate that the Anbar Salvation Council (which later grew exponentially and developed into al-Sahwa al-Iraq &#8211; the Iraq Awakening) started with one man, Sheikh Abdul Sattar Abu al-Risha, and seventy men fighting al-Qaeda in defense of their families, not in pursuit of a ‘political’ anything. They simply wanted to live and end al-Qaeda’s assassination and murdering spree against their families and tribe. Sheikh Abdul Sattar, later assassinated by al-Qaeda in Iraq , had seen 10 family members, including 4 brothers, killed by al-Qaeda for their cooperation with US forces. He had had enough. </p>
<p>Obama’s plan &#8211; unoriginal and pieced together like a quilt from others against the Iraq war &#8211; was entirely Baghdad-centric, about laws and revenue sharing and conferences. The Anbar Awakening had nothing to do with Baghdad when they began and when they turned the neighborhood tides in Ramadi and elsewhere in Anbar province. It was about killing the terrorists before the terrorists killed them. One must, after all, live to ultimately see progress on any scale beyond one’s neighborhoods.</p>
<p>Obama wanted laws written, press conferences, and an immediate pull back of US troops. As Senator Chuck Schumer so brilliantly said at the time about ‘the plan,’ US forces were to withdraw post-haste to the periphery “in more of a counterterrorism role.” This would have abandoned the Anbar Salvation Council &#8211; and Anbar Sunnis and Shi’a alike &#8211; entirely. It would have been feeding them to the bloodthirsty wolves of al-Qaeda so that domestic American political figures could champion themselves as ‘ending a war’ and conducting business “in more of a counterterrorism role.” </p>
<p>This is precisely what I tried to scream when I wrote “This Is Counterterrorism, Senator” over a year ago for National Review Online. And winning the counterinsurgency is about aligning a population with us. Neither of these, counterterrorism nor counterinsurgency, could have been successfully addressed by ‘The Plan’ put forth by Obama and others in opposition to The Surge. The Surge was all about protecting the population within their own neighborhoods, while ‘The Plan’ was about abandoning said population to complete animals unassisted. Yet Obama &#8211; and surely others &#8211; would oppose it all over again.</p>
<p>The Iraqis have done what they have done for themselves in spite of the likes of Obama, Schumer, Pelosi and all the rest. What’s more, now that The Surge has accomplished much of what it set out to do to help the Iraqis &#8211; again in spite of Obama, Schumer, Pelosi and the rest &#8211; a presidential candidate who opposed the surge, would still oppose The Surge and had absolutely no clue about the Anbar Salvation Council when it was pleading and begging for US support (since at least September of 2006) wants to champion their success as somehow his brainchild and a sign of the political development he envisioned? </p>
<p>One is left to suppose that he overlooks the fact that so many in Anbar and throughout Iraq are alive in spite of attempts to push such a sacrificial ‘Plan.’ There’s no other way to describe it. Dead people &#8211; crucified, baked and beheaded &#8211; do not live to contribute to ‘political progress.’ Sheikh Abdul Sattar &#8211; and today, his brother Sheikh Ahmed al-Rishawi &#8211; understood this. Too many Americans seem flip to dismiss this comfortably from afar.</p>
<p>The Anbar Salvation Council didn’t have a damn thing to do with political resolution. It needed to simply survive first; family by family, town by town, tribe by tribe. The movement that eventually saved Iraq laid ignored and unsupported until General David Petraeus changed that when he arrived to command The Surge that Obama said he would still oppose. </p>
<p>Obama’s (et al) ‘plan’ and ‘political’ demands would have fed them to the wolves, slaughtered with their families while we were to have breathed a sigh of relief that the war was finally over. Funny thing about the Iraqis: They want to live, no matter what our politicians profess.</p></blockquote>
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<p>07/23 06:45 AM<br />
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why do they keep covering up for McCain?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/22/mccain-gets-history-of-th_n_114419.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why do they keep covering up for McCain?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/22/mccain-gets-history-of-th_n_114419.html" rel="nofollow">LINK</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best phrase I&#039;ve heard so far when talking about Obama&#039;s trip on KCAL 9:

&quot;Obama&#039;s mystical magic tour&quot;

That made me laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best phrase I&#8217;ve heard so far when talking about Obama&#8217;s trip on KCAL 9:</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama&#8217;s mystical magic tour&#8221;</p>
<p>That made me laugh.</p>
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