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	<title>Comments on: Denver surprise with Hillary as nominee?  The rumor mill rumbles of supers changing to HRC</title>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE PUMAS ARE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED ...

1. 	Contrary to what Obamabots say ...
	Obama and Hillary were in a dead heat,
	when the DNC pressured Hillary into not
	only conceding, but campaigning for Obama.
2. 	Obama is once again in a dead heat, but now
	with McCain, even though Obamabots act like
	Obama has already won (like they did in the
	primaries against Hillary). So, this means that
	half of the Democrats, and all the Republicans
	(3/4 of America) dIdn&#039;t want Obama. Plus, he
	didn&#039;t even win the popular vote, and refused a
	revote in Michigan and Florida.
3. 	Obama has the thinnest resume in politics, and
	he won state legislature and Senator by
	disqualifications of his opponents, not by earned
	experience, or votes.
4.	Obama&#039;s one claim to fame is being a community
	organizer, where he boasts of registering voters.
	Then he took their votes away from them, by
	disqualifying his opponents on technicalities, prior
	to the election.
5.	Obama&#039;s mentor of 20 years, was an anti-American
	racist ... not to mention other unsavory associations.
6.	Obama is simply buying the election, since he&#039;s
	good at fund raising ... hardly a qualification to be
	President of the United States.
7. 	The media never vetted Obama, and they are
	giving him a free ride, plus more than twice the
	print and air time as McCain, as they did against
	Hillary.
8. 	90% of blacks are voting for Obama, because he is
	black, while the campaign gained ground by
	accusing most opponents of racism.
9.       Obamabots were, and are extremely nasty and sarcastic
          towards Hillary supporters, as well as McCain supporters.
10.     Pumas should be applauded for putting country before party ...
           especially a party that did not represent them, and a party
           which highjacked the nomination for Obama.

REPLACE OBAMA WITH HILLARY AT THE CONVENTION !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE PUMAS ARE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED &#8230;</p>
<p>1. 	Contrary to what Obamabots say &#8230;<br />
	Obama and Hillary were in a dead heat,<br />
	when the DNC pressured Hillary into not<br />
	only conceding, but campaigning for Obama.<br />
2. 	Obama is once again in a dead heat, but now<br />
	with McCain, even though Obamabots act like<br />
	Obama has already won (like they did in the<br />
	primaries against Hillary). So, this means that<br />
	half of the Democrats, and all the Republicans<br />
	(3/4 of America) dIdn&#8217;t want Obama. Plus, he<br />
	didn&#8217;t even win the popular vote, and refused a<br />
	revote in Michigan and Florida.<br />
3. 	Obama has the thinnest resume in politics, and<br />
	he won state legislature and Senator by<br />
	disqualifications of his opponents, not by earned<br />
	experience, or votes.<br />
4.	Obama&#8217;s one claim to fame is being a community<br />
	organizer, where he boasts of registering voters.<br />
	Then he took their votes away from them, by<br />
	disqualifying his opponents on technicalities, prior<br />
	to the election.<br />
5.	Obama&#8217;s mentor of 20 years, was an anti-American<br />
	racist &#8230; not to mention other unsavory associations.<br />
6.	Obama is simply buying the election, since he&#8217;s<br />
	good at fund raising &#8230; hardly a qualification to be<br />
	President of the United States.<br />
7. 	The media never vetted Obama, and they are<br />
	giving him a free ride, plus more than twice the<br />
	print and air time as McCain, as they did against<br />
	Hillary.<br />
8. 	90% of blacks are voting for Obama, because he is<br />
	black, while the campaign gained ground by<br />
	accusing most opponents of racism.<br />
9.       Obamabots were, and are extremely nasty and sarcastic<br />
          towards Hillary supporters, as well as McCain supporters.<br />
10.     Pumas should be applauded for putting country before party &#8230;<br />
           especially a party that did not represent them, and a party<br />
           which highjacked the nomination for Obama.</p>
<p>REPLACE OBAMA WITH HILLARY AT THE CONVENTION !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UNLESS the Precious commits such a grave and destructive error between now and the convention, that even the more addicted BO supporters see him as unelectable... it will be folly to try and nominate HRC.   I agree, the Obamabots would riot.

With that said, it is clear that BO is unqualified and anointed and this has been one of the most shamefully corrupt primaries in the history of the DNC.  When BO loses this election I want to see many heads roll, including HD, Brazile, Pelosi...  

but if I were advising HRC, I would not grab for the golden ring at the convention unless there is a groundswell rejection of Barry O by not only the public at large but his devotees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UNLESS the Precious commits such a grave and destructive error between now and the convention, that even the more addicted BO supporters see him as unelectable&#8230; it will be folly to try and nominate HRC.   I agree, the Obamabots would riot.</p>
<p>With that said, it is clear that BO is unqualified and anointed and this has been one of the most shamefully corrupt primaries in the history of the DNC.  When BO loses this election I want to see many heads roll, including HD, Brazile, Pelosi&#8230;  </p>
<p>but if I were advising HRC, I would not grab for the golden ring at the convention unless there is a groundswell rejection of Barry O by not only the public at large but his devotees.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Hillary&#039;s name is not put in nomination,John Mccain will be our next president!  Our country can&#039;t Afford all of o&#039;s bills. The Global poverty bill is a good example850billion dollars? chairty starts at home!  Wealth distribution? taking from the rich and giving it to the poor? A new ROBIN HOOD! I personally don&#039;t want something others have worked for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Hillary&#8217;s name is not put in nomination,John Mccain will be our next president!  Our country can&#8217;t Afford all of o&#8217;s bills. The Global poverty bill is a good example850billion dollars? chairty starts at home!  Wealth distribution? taking from the rich and giving it to the poor? A new ROBIN HOOD! I personally don&#8217;t want something others have worked for!</p>
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		<title>By: OLDPUPPYMAX</title>
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		<dc:creator>OLDPUPPYMAX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We all know what happened with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton...&quot;  What in the world is this staffer thinking?? These two would not have been helped by democrat party &quot;guidance.&quot; The treasonous stupidity of Carter and the felonious lechery and utter criminality of slick Willie would have shown themselves with or without the &quot;help&quot; of the party machine.  A president Obama would be the cardboard cutout representative of the big money homosexual and Marxist donors who have bankrolled his campaign. Evidently democratic party types have not figured this out quite yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We all know what happened with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton&#8230;&#8221;  What in the world is this staffer thinking?? These two would not have been helped by democrat party &#8220;guidance.&#8221; The treasonous stupidity of Carter and the felonious lechery and utter criminality of slick Willie would have shown themselves with or without the &#8220;help&#8221; of the party machine.  A president Obama would be the cardboard cutout representative of the big money homosexual and Marxist donors who have bankrolled his campaign. Evidently democratic party types have not figured this out quite yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Dittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Dittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, we already have those.  The aliens are in contact with Ron Paul, the zombies are known as  Obamabots and Code Pink is possibly the closest things to sasquatches that we will see outside a deep forrest or mountain top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, we already have those.  The aliens are in contact with Ron Paul, the zombies are known as  Obamabots and Code Pink is possibly the closest things to sasquatches that we will see outside a deep forrest or mountain top.</p>
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		<title>By: luva the scissors</title>
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		<dc:creator>luva the scissors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they can&#039;t figure shit out, let alone the problems of this country.  we need a proven leader, and then we go to mccain.  obama would be crappin&#039; in his knickers if they did a roll call vote for hillary.  she put up a good fight though and deserves that much from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they can&#8217;t figure shit out, let alone the problems of this country.  we need a proven leader, and then we go to mccain.  obama would be crappin&#8217; in his knickers if they did a roll call vote for hillary.  she put up a good fight though and deserves that much from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or is this the craziest presidential election season ever?  This even beats the Bush-Gore election year.  I mean, you have this crazy fight over on the democratic side; you have Obama flipping and flopping; there is craziness from his associates, the far left, and HRC; then you have McCain who has made a couple of mistakes especially with conservatives; and conservatives in quandary.  I almost expect zombies, space aliens, and sasquatch to be involved in this election year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or is this the craziest presidential election season ever?  This even beats the Bush-Gore election year.  I mean, you have this crazy fight over on the democratic side; you have Obama flipping and flopping; there is craziness from his associates, the far left, and HRC; then you have McCain who has made a couple of mistakes especially with conservatives; and conservatives in quandary.  I almost expect zombies, space aliens, and sasquatch to be involved in this election year.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I do not want HRC returning in a bum’s rush to take the nomination in the 11th hour. Barry is getting easier to defeat by the hour. Despite all the negatives, Clinton is still harder to beat with McCain.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Two thoughts come to my mind here, Indigo...  You might add them to your mulling process.

1:  If HRC walked away with the nomination after BHO&#039;s presumptive, self-annointed nominee status ... accepted as irrefutable by all these past weeks... the split in the DNC party would be unfathomable.  While HRC supporters feel robbed now, that wouldn&#039;t come close to describing BHO supporters&#039; outrage at the nomination being ripped away from Obama.   

If Hillary doesn&#039;t get the BHO supporters, she&#039;d have no chance of winning the election anyway, and the DNC will point fingers at each side for decades to follow.  And dang... that rip in the DNC fabric would be a joy to behold.  All based on gender vs race, and &quot;every vote must count&quot;... then made more complex by their own asinine primary/caucus rules where discerning a clear winner is as vague as their leadership.

2:  Either a DNC or GOP candidate will occupy the WH come Jan 09.  I personally would feel better that it is HRC v JSM.  Simply because, if Mac loses, I would most certainly prefer Hillary over Obama for the health of the nation.

I can&#039;t believe I just said that.....  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do not want HRC returning in a bum’s rush to take the nomination in the 11th hour. Barry is getting easier to defeat by the hour. Despite all the negatives, Clinton is still harder to beat with McCain.</p></blockquote>
<p>Two thoughts come to my mind here, Indigo&#8230;  You might add them to your mulling process.</p>
<p>1:  If HRC walked away with the nomination after BHO&#8217;s presumptive, self-annointed nominee status &#8230; accepted as irrefutable by all these past weeks&#8230; the split in the DNC party would be unfathomable.  While HRC supporters feel robbed now, that wouldn&#8217;t come close to describing BHO supporters&#8217; outrage at the nomination being ripped away from Obama.   </p>
<p>If Hillary doesn&#8217;t get the BHO supporters, she&#8217;d have no chance of winning the election anyway, and the DNC will point fingers at each side for decades to follow.  And dang&#8230; that rip in the DNC fabric would be a joy to behold.  All based on gender vs race, and &#8220;every vote must count&#8221;&#8230; then made more complex by their own asinine primary/caucus rules where discerning a clear winner is as vague as their leadership.</p>
<p>2:  Either a DNC or GOP candidate will occupy the WH come Jan 09.  I personally would feel better that it is HRC v JSM.  Simply because, if Mac loses, I would most certainly prefer Hillary over Obama for the health of the nation.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe I just said that&#8230;..  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Obama has annointed himself and is proceeding to expose himself, I do not want HRC returning in a bum&#039;s rush to take the nomination in the 11th hour. Barry is getting easier to defeat by the hour. Despite all the negatives, Clinton is still harder to beat with McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Obama has annointed himself and is proceeding to expose himself, I do not want HRC returning in a bum&#8217;s rush to take the nomination in the 11th hour. Barry is getting easier to defeat by the hour. Despite all the negatives, Clinton is still harder to beat with McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Hamiliton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Hamiliton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less arrogance, more leading. 

With the Democratic party though, I think leading is the more complicated part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less arrogance, more leading. </p>
<p>With the Democratic party though, I think leading is the more complicated part.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cloud&quot; away, JustADude.  Got some links?  Or, if you think it&#039;s a worthy post, why not submit it to Curt via the &quot;Reader Post&quot; route.  I&#039;m unaware of any other states that slipped their primary/caucus dates beyond what they were allowed.  Which ones are they?

Inquiring minds wanna know....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cloud&#8221; away, JustADude.  Got some links?  Or, if you think it&#8217;s a worthy post, why not submit it to Curt via the &#8220;Reader Post&#8221; route.  I&#8217;m unaware of any other states that slipped their primary/caucus dates beyond what they were allowed.  Which ones are they?</p>
<p>Inquiring minds wanna know&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JustADude</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustADude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember none of the delegates are locked in here.  Not just the Super Ds.

Any of the early primary/caucus states that got buyers remorse over say Rev Wright and such and the way Hill was treated could flip and zip on him....

Popcorn supplies..extra large</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember none of the delegates are locked in here.  Not just the Super Ds.</p>
<p>Any of the early primary/caucus states that got buyers remorse over say Rev Wright and such and the way Hill was treated could flip and zip on him&#8230;.</p>
<p>Popcorn supplies..extra large</p>
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		<title>By: JustADude</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustADude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look for a credentials fight over Fl and Mi at the convention.

Also it is little noticed but in the Nelson vs Dean suit over Florida there are 4 states that slipped their primaries/caucus outside the authorized Dem windows for their dates and no action was taken on them.

Those 4 states will now be open to credentials challenge also.

Lots of other stuff in the mix also but don&#039;t want to cloud it up here with too many issues at one time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look for a credentials fight over Fl and Mi at the convention.</p>
<p>Also it is little noticed but in the Nelson vs Dean suit over Florida there are 4 states that slipped their primaries/caucus outside the authorized Dem windows for their dates and no action was taken on them.</p>
<p>Those 4 states will now be open to credentials challenge also.</p>
<p>Lots of other stuff in the mix also but don&#8217;t want to cloud it up here with too many issues at one time.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Dittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Dittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has another problem and that&#039;s unity.  Superdelegates and delegates just don&#039;t appear and vanish like some mystical entities.  These are major planners with their own desires.  If Obama wins the presidential election, he may end up taking orders from Hillary and those that support.  Obama has already proven himself thin skinned and a walking puppet.Already his plan on Iraq and his health care plan are now based on Hillary&#039;s plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has another problem and that&#8217;s unity.  Superdelegates and delegates just don&#8217;t appear and vanish like some mystical entities.  These are major planners with their own desires.  If Obama wins the presidential election, he may end up taking orders from Hillary and those that support.  Obama has already proven himself thin skinned and a walking puppet.Already his plan on Iraq and his health care plan are now based on Hillary&#8217;s plan.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cannot be the only one that is absolutely giddy with the thought of such a wonderful mess...

hell, i might actually take the 28th off just to watch the fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cannot be the only one that is absolutely giddy with the thought of such a wonderful mess&#8230;</p>
<p>hell, i might actually take the 28th off just to watch the fun</p>
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