Denver surprise with Hillary as nominee?
The rumor mill rumbles of supers changing to HRC

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Caught this via a Luciannne to Alegre’s Corner to Powerline link… all hitting the blogosphere yesterday.

Politico documents the DNC happy face is all but that under the surface. It appears that the DNC leadership is feeling left out in the cold with BHO not checking in to coordinate his campaign talking points with them. And as the party leadership smiles, their underling staffers are whining:

Privately, however, there is a different message coming from some Democratic quarters on the Hill and on K Street. Some Democratic leadership staffers complain that, having defeated the vaunted Clinton political machine in the primaries, the Obama campaign now feels a “sense of entitlement” that leads to “arrogance.”

One Democratic aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity, compared the Obama campaign unfavorably to President Bush’s administration.

“At least Bush waited until he was in the White House before they started ignoring everybody,” the aide said.

“These relationships matter,” said a House Democrat close to the leadership. “I really hope these guys try to get off on the right foot. We all know what happened to [former President] Jimmy Carter and [former President] Bill Clinton. We don’t want to see a repeat of that.”

But the DCCC’s exec director, Brian Wolffe, really lays out the BS – saying “… that some of the “supposed arrogance” coming from the Obama camp is in reality a misinterpreted sense of confidence in the campaign’s plan for winning the Oval Office, including grass-roots mobilization, in-state political infrastructure, messaging and get-out-the vote operations.

uh huh…

Now a side trip to the NY Daily News article, where we find HRC is busy shuffling her leftover campaign cash… rolling it over into her “2012 Senate campaign”. Or would that really be a 2012 POTUS run?

That may all depend upon what happens by Aug 28th. Because that’s her deadline for the donors to respond to whether she may keep the cash for a future campaign. If they don’t agree, she returns it.

Let’s see… Aug 28th. How convenient that also happens to be the last day of the DNC Convention. Things that make you go hummmmmm….

Now another side trip. Blog news, unverified as far as I know. But the pro-Hillary site, Alegre’s Corner, claims eight supers are planning on casting their votes for HRC in Denver… assuming that they can, of course.

Big news folks – it looks like our efforts in contacting those Superdelegates are starting to pay off, so keep on writing to them (ok, maybe Donna B’s a waste of time). There are unconfirmed reports, based on phone banking efforts to reach out to Super Ds, that eight previously Obama SDs expressed that, given the opportunity, they would vote for Hillary at the convention.

I heard about an interview Will Bower of PUMA did recently, where he said delegates are starting to say they’ll vote for Hillary in Denver if the DNC did the right thing and ran an open and fair convention. That means a roll call vote with Hillary’s name put into nomination, and on the ballot.

So I shot an email to Bower to ask him where he got that info from, and here’s what he sent me regarding the efforts of a friend of his:

“A large phone banking effort to the super d’s combined with Obama’s flips and poor presumptive nominee performance, etc have yielded doubts within the super delegates, enough that 3 elected and 5 DNC members have confided that should they have the opportunity to do so, they will vote for Hillary.”

Maybe this is why BHO and the Toxic Trio are pushing so hard to keep Hillary off the roll call ballot eh? I’ve been wondering what they’re so afraid of now it looks like we have part of the answer.

UPDATE: This same story was posited by Will Bowers of PUMA (Party Unity My A$$) in a WorldNetDaily story on July 12th.

“There is a movement afoot,” Bower confided. “It hasn’t hit the ground yet, but we want to target down-ticket Democrats who have been complicit in the DNC’s dealings these past few months. You’ll probably be hearing more about that soon. Some of Obama’s original supporters are leaving him. Eight super-delegates left Obama this week. People are realizing Obama will be a dead weight to them and that’s why these eight delegates have switched back over to Hillary’s column. And I’m expecting there’ll be more to follow.”

Of course, PUMA’s logic isn’t all that… they also believe that the party is backing Obama because “they want a weakened executive branch and Obama is an inexperienced, manufactured candidate who’ll have to rely on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.” Rather a moot point as we find Obama ignoring the very same today, getting on their bad side….

Note… this is all unconfirmed. But I have been a believer – ever since HRC was running second in the primaries – that she will either stage a comeback at Convention time, or work under cover to help defeat His Messiahship so she can take a run at the Oval Office in 2012.

One has to remember… it is Obama who has annointed himself as the nominee. He does not have enough pledged delegates to win, and must depend upon the Supers to put him over the top. Yet the Supers do not vote until Convention time, and may change their mind at any point between now and then.

As I said… rumors abound in the blogosphere of delegates and the tests of their loyalty to BHO. I suspect, as many FA’ers here like to say, that the popcorn poppers or microwave bags will be in abundance at the end of August. And the fat lady? She’s still traversing the streets of Denver, and hasn’t even started a warbling warm up on the process for the official DNC nominee.

It’s been pretty quiet on the HRC front since her careful “suspension”. But the pot is simmering now, and it’s not impossible for an October surprise to end up an August surprise for the Jr. Senator from IL.

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i cannot be the only one that is absolutely giddy with the thought of such a wonderful mess…

hell, i might actually take the 28th off just to watch the fun

Obama has another problem and that’s unity. Superdelegates and delegates just don’t appear and vanish like some mystical entities. These are major planners with their own desires. If Obama wins the presidential election, he may end up taking orders from Hillary and those that support. Obama has already proven himself thin skinned and a walking puppet.Already his plan on Iraq and his health care plan are now based on Hillary’s plan.

Look for a credentials fight over Fl and Mi at the convention.

Also it is little noticed but in the Nelson vs Dean suit over Florida there are 4 states that slipped their primaries/caucus outside the authorized Dem windows for their dates and no action was taken on them.

Those 4 states will now be open to credentials challenge also.

Lots of other stuff in the mix also but don’t want to cloud it up here with too many issues at one time.

Remember none of the delegates are locked in here. Not just the Super Ds.

Any of the early primary/caucus states that got buyers remorse over say Rev Wright and such and the way Hill was treated could flip and zip on him….

Popcorn supplies..extra large

“Cloud” away, JustADude. Got some links? Or, if you think it’s a worthy post, why not submit it to Curt via the “Reader Post” route. I’m unaware of any other states that slipped their primary/caucus dates beyond what they were allowed. Which ones are they?

Inquiring minds wanna know….

Less arrogance, more leading.

With the Democratic party though, I think leading is the more complicated part.

Now that Obama has annointed himself and is proceeding to expose himself, I do not want HRC returning in a bum’s rush to take the nomination in the 11th hour. Barry is getting easier to defeat by the hour. Despite all the negatives, Clinton is still harder to beat with McCain.

I do not want HRC returning in a bum’s rush to take the nomination in the 11th hour. Barry is getting easier to defeat by the hour. Despite all the negatives, Clinton is still harder to beat with McCain.

Two thoughts come to my mind here, Indigo… You might add them to your mulling process.

1: If HRC walked away with the nomination after BHO’s presumptive, self-annointed nominee status … accepted as irrefutable by all these past weeks… the split in the DNC party would be unfathomable. While HRC supporters feel robbed now, that wouldn’t come close to describing BHO supporters’ outrage at the nomination being ripped away from Obama.

If Hillary doesn’t get the BHO supporters, she’d have no chance of winning the election anyway, and the DNC will point fingers at each side for decades to follow. And dang… that rip in the DNC fabric would be a joy to behold. All based on gender vs race, and “every vote must count”… then made more complex by their own asinine primary/caucus rules where discerning a clear winner is as vague as their leadership.

2: Either a DNC or GOP candidate will occupy the WH come Jan 09. I personally would feel better that it is HRC v JSM. Simply because, if Mac loses, I would most certainly prefer Hillary over Obama for the health of the nation.

I can’t believe I just said that….. LOL

Is it just me or is this the craziest presidential election season ever? This even beats the Bush-Gore election year. I mean, you have this crazy fight over on the democratic side; you have Obama flipping and flopping; there is craziness from his associates, the far left, and HRC; then you have McCain who has made a couple of mistakes especially with conservatives; and conservatives in quandary. I almost expect zombies, space aliens, and sasquatch to be involved in this election year.

they can’t figure shit out, let alone the problems of this country. we need a proven leader, and then we go to mccain. obama would be crappin’ in his knickers if they did a roll call vote for hillary. she put up a good fight though and deserves that much from them.

Thomas, we already have those. The aliens are in contact with Ron Paul, the zombies are known as Obamabots and Code Pink is possibly the closest things to sasquatches that we will see outside a deep forrest or mountain top.

“We all know what happened with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton…” What in the world is this staffer thinking?? These two would not have been helped by democrat party “guidance.” The treasonous stupidity of Carter and the felonious lechery and utter criminality of slick Willie would have shown themselves with or without the “help” of the party machine. A president Obama would be the cardboard cutout representative of the big money homosexual and Marxist donors who have bankrolled his campaign. Evidently democratic party types have not figured this out quite yet.

If Hillary’s name is not put in nomination,John Mccain will be our next president! Our country can’t Afford all of o’s bills. The Global poverty bill is a good example850billion dollars? chairty starts at home! Wealth distribution? taking from the rich and giving it to the poor? A new ROBIN HOOD! I personally don’t want something others have worked for!

UNLESS the Precious commits such a grave and destructive error between now and the convention, that even the more addicted BO supporters see him as unelectable… it will be folly to try and nominate HRC. I agree, the Obamabots would riot.

With that said, it is clear that BO is unqualified and anointed and this has been one of the most shamefully corrupt primaries in the history of the DNC. When BO loses this election I want to see many heads roll, including HD, Brazile, Pelosi…

but if I were advising HRC, I would not grab for the golden ring at the convention unless there is a groundswell rejection of Barry O by not only the public at large but his devotees.

THE PUMAS ARE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED …

1. Contrary to what Obamabots say …
Obama and Hillary were in a dead heat,
when the DNC pressured Hillary into not
only conceding, but campaigning for Obama.
2. Obama is once again in a dead heat, but now
with McCain, even though Obamabots act like
Obama has already won (like they did in the
primaries against Hillary). So, this means that
half of the Democrats, and all the Republicans
(3/4 of America) dIdn’t want Obama. Plus, he
didn’t even win the popular vote, and refused a
revote in Michigan and Florida.
3. Obama has the thinnest resume in politics, and
he won state legislature and Senator by
disqualifications of his opponents, not by earned
experience, or votes.
4. Obama’s one claim to fame is being a community
organizer, where he boasts of registering voters.
Then he took their votes away from them, by
disqualifying his opponents on technicalities, prior
to the election.
5. Obama’s mentor of 20 years, was an anti-American
racist … not to mention other unsavory associations.
6. Obama is simply buying the election, since he’s
good at fund raising … hardly a qualification to be
President of the United States.
7. The media never vetted Obama, and they are
giving him a free ride, plus more than twice the
print and air time as McCain, as they did against
Hillary.
8. 90% of blacks are voting for Obama, because he is
black, while the campaign gained ground by
accusing most opponents of racism.
9. Obamabots were, and are extremely nasty and sarcastic
towards Hillary supporters, as well as McCain supporters.
10. Pumas should be applauded for putting country before party …
especially a party that did not represent them, and a party
which highjacked the nomination for Obama.

REPLACE OBAMA WITH HILLARY AT THE CONVENTION !!!