Obama Writes A Winner In The NYT’s Today

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Obama wrote an editorial in the pages of the New York Times today and boy can he dance.

In the 18 months since President Bush announced the surge, our troops have performed heroically in bringing down the level of violence. New tactics have protected the Iraqi population, and the Sunni tribes have rejected Al Qaeda — greatly weakening its effectiveness.

But the same factors that led me to oppose the surge still hold true. The strain on our military has grown, the situation in Afghanistan has deteriorated and we’ve spent nearly $200 billion more in Iraq than we had budgeted. Iraq’s leaders have failed to invest tens of billions of dollars in oil revenues in rebuilding their own country, and they have not reached the political accommodation that was the stated purpose of the surge.

Oh please. Obama opposed the surge because he didn’t think it would work.

“I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse.” (MSNBC’s “Response To The President’s Speech On Iraq,” 1/10/07)

We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a civil war. And until we acknowledge that reality — we can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops, I don’t know any expert on the region or any military officer that I’ve spoken to privately that believes that that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground.” (CBS’ “Face The Nation,” 1/14/07)

“[E]ven those who are supporting — but here’s the thing, Larry — even those who support the escalation have acknowledged that 20,000, 30,000, even 40,000 more troops placed temporarily in places like Baghdad are not going to make a long-term difference.” (CNN’s “Larry King Live,” 3/19/07)

“And what I know is that what our troops deserve is not just rhetoric, they deserve a new plan. Governor Romney and Senator McCain clearly believe that the course that we’re on in Iraq is working, I do not.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks To The Coalition Of Black Trade Unionists Convention, Chicago, IL, 5/25/07)

“My assessment is that the surge has not worked and we will not see a different report eight weeks from now.” (NBC’s “The Today Show,” 7/18/07)

“Finally, in 2006-2007, we started to see that, even after an election, George Bush continued to want to pursue a course that didn’t withdraw troops from Iraq but actually doubled them and initiated a search and at that stage I said very clearly, not only have we not seen improvements, but we’re actually worsening, potentially, a situation there.” (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 11/11/07)

He was wrong and instead of admitting this fact he hems and haws about the cost, the war in Afghanistan, and the political situation which by the way is moving along quite well as the US Embassy report stated 15 of the 18 benchmarks have been met. As for Afghanistan, if he cared that much about the country you think maybe he would of voted aye in May of 07 instead of nay?

Obama Voted Against Providing $94.4 Billion In Critical Funding For The Troops In Iraq And Afghanistan. (H.R. 2206, CQ Vote #181: Passed 80-14: R 42-3; D 37-10; I 1-1, 5/24/07, Obama Voted Nay)

His op-ed was wrong on the assertion that Maliki stated he wanted a withdrawal of our troops:

The call by Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki for a timetable for the removal of American troops from Iraq presents an enormous opportunity.

Woops:

The key statement cited by Mr Obama and others was made by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki last Monday in his address to Arab ambassadors in the United Arab Emirates.

The prime minister was widely quoted as saying that in the negotiations with the Americans on a Status of Forces Agreement to regulate the US troop presence from next year, “the direction is towards either a memorandum of understanding on their evacuation, or a memorandum of understanding on a timetable for their withdrawal”.

That was the version of Mr Maliki’s remarks put out in writing by his office in Baghdad.

It was widely circulated by the news media, and caught much attention, including that of Mr Obama.

There is only one problem. It is not what Mr Maliki actually said.

In an audio recording of his remarks, heard by the BBC, the prime minister did not use the word “withdrawal”.

What he actually said was: “The direction is towards either a memorandum of understanding on their evacuation, or a memorandum of understanding on programming their presence.”

Even the Iraqi National Security Adviser said something that sound suspiciously like what Bush and McCain have been saying for quite some time:

He said the talks were focused on agreeing on “timeline horizons, not specific dates”, and said that withdrawal timings would depend on the readiness of the Iraqi security forces.

To put his foot in his mouth even more Obama wrote:

Iraq is not the central front in the war on terrorism, and it never has been.

Cough. Osama said this about Iraq a few years ago:

“Third World War is raging”

And Zawahiri said the following in a letter to Zarqawi:

I want to be the first to congratulate you for what God has blessed you with in terms of fighting battle in the heart of the Islamic world, which was formerly the field for major battles in Islam’s history, and what is now the place for the greatest battle of Islam in this era

Seems the terrorists think Iraq is the central front, why don’t you Senator?

Shoddy piece of work by a shoddy politician. Basically he strung together a bunch of old tired Democrat talking points and then threw it all into a op-ed….sad

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Oh please. Obama opposed the surge because he didn’t think it would work.

No, he opposed the surge because he didn’t want it to work. After all, the dims talked down the surge weeks before it even started saying it was a failure. And they have talked down the Iraq war from almost the very beginning. They cannot allow Bush to win this war. They cannot allow Bush to bring peace to the ME. It would give him and the republican party too much prestige.

Well, the dims have worked hard to brainwash the American public and succeeded to a point. If Bush had been the type of politician who raised his finger into the air to see which way the wind was blowing they might have succeeded but he was not. He stood firm against the worst onslaught of abuse ever sent a president’s way from both his party and the dims. He succeeded in spite of it. When history compares him to Clinton, thre will be no question of who is great and who is not. History will call Clinton narcissistic and self-centered and they will call Bush a man who stood firm for his principles. Bush will be one of the great presidents

In the article Obambi said:
“I would consult with commanders on the ground and the Iraqi government to ensure that our troops were redeployed safely, and our interests protected.”

Just wondering what interests is he talking about and how does he intend to protect them ?
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Oh yeah, what a hawk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZVqGuwRqnw

Hey Curt, note to whom he spoke… and when:

Snip:

One way to relieve this stress is to increase the size of the Army and Marine Corps. Obama’s plans for a 65,000-person increase in the Army and a 27,000-person increase in the Marine Corps match plans already underway. He said he is not sure about personnel levels for the Navy and Air Force, but “I don’t anticipate a reduction” for those two services.add that he wanted to increase the military after his cost concerns.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/07/military_obama_070708/

Gee, I remember when he and Romney had a ‘who will add the most troops’ contest last year… after that sex-ed in kindergarten thingie.

Flashback:

re: Obama’s 2007 speech to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702027.html

You left out the civilian service jackboots.

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/007818.html

Obama got it right. Mostly.

To begin with let’s declare SOFA kaput for Bush Administration wrangling. Let’s therefore say, since it’s now hanging by a thread, Iraqis won and Bush (and McCain, too) lost. Why do I say this? Quite simply because a long-term occupation of Iraq was the goal for the Administration, and it failed. That’s the good news; it’s needs to be proclaimed.

Those that say otherwise, that long-term intentions were not in their game plan, weren’t playing enough attention. At the end of 2008, the United Nation’s security mandate authorizing American combat operations will expire. To replace the mandate Bush and Maliki issued a “Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship” in November of 2007. Based on this Declaration, the administration and the Iraqi government were working to issue a SOFA Agreement by the end of July. The Declaration is broader than the SOFA would have been. Therefore we already know the general goal of the Administration’s efforts were to secure an arrangement where the US would “stabilize” Iraq on the long term models of South Korea and Germany US militarization.

Therefore, like all a long-day’s light it must end, it’s required to come to a twilight, it’s the natural designs of things that they cannot endure more than what their intended purpose calls for. For there to have been an arranged long-term occupation of Iraq by Bush and Maliki, Iraq would have had to have been a US military based proxy for the United States. Yet such a conceptual configuration only ends in contradiction if the legitimated terms for such a longterm occupation result in a denial of sovereignty. And they do.

The BBC piece Curt quotes from illustrates the tremendous pressures Maliki was under and how his balancing act is a continuous inartful stumble as he tries to walk back his public statements in his press releases that advocate an impatience with foreign troops on his soil:

I say forget worrying about whether or not Maliki’s using the word ‘withdrawal’ in the speech =it’s simply irrelevant= …just listen to what the gist of what he said: “The goal is to end the presence [of foreign troops].” That’s been his montra ever since SOFA leaks fell on Iraqi ears and Sistani was awoken.

So, now Maliki wants out of the Declaration of Principles, he wants out of SOFA; if he’s not out of them, isn’t pushing for a troop goal exit, he’s out of office.

The pact that the US and Iraq will now probably have will probably only make it to fall or winter of ’09, no more. By that time the new president will have been hammering away at a new SOFA, new terms, dates, hopes, goals and so on. And most certainly, the public pressure isn’t going to let up. So, that it– who gives a sh*t now on about a time-table. (Anyway, if Sistani says ‘go!’, we go– He’s had a significant impact on the development of this security scenario, yet never a word about him on right wing blogs. It’s as if denial were a conservative virus here.)

Again, Maliki, out of public pressure and the gravity of the elections, has cut the Bush administration’s own demands on Iraq beyond the bone, and then thrown the bone to the next president. That’s what has happened. What’s now being forged is on a ‘paper napkin’, it’s formality is TEMPORARY–less than a year’s time.

Of course, Maliki and Bush are hoping that this temporary protocol will now be able to circumvent full parliamentary review and a two-thirds vote Maliki has promised for a SOFA. Will it? If so, this way at least something legally binding gets through. If it gets that far, then the rest is up to GOP and McCain– if they can will the election.

(After all is said and done, when one thinks about it, the enduring testament of the Bush administration’s legacy ends here on Iraq: by almost any means necessary it pushed the U.S. towards a long-term occupation of a foreign country, while actively circumventing the democratic procedures and sentiment of both countries that oppose it, yet it failed.

So, will the 2009 pact accent withdrawals, be condition based, as well as ‘horizon time-lined’, be approved by Parliament, will it be authoritative, structured, construed…? Who knows at this point. Certainly there will be attempts for a language that will try to force Iraq to maintain a heavy troop base presence. But can it be done without the public and parliament finding out …and yet another public backlast over the occupation– can Maliki even afford it? You have to wonder.

Therefore, here Bush lost. It’s now in the hands of the next president.

BTW– O’Hanlon, reportedly ‘livid’ over Obama’s NYT’s piece, wonders why Obama wrote the piece just before going to Iraq: the above explains why. O’Hanlon knows it, too. He’s just too angry, along with many others, to see the facts as they are yet.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/republican-national-committee-they-said/story.aspx?guid=%7B7BC2273B-B9CD-4B46-BBF7-6287310A5131%7D&dist=hppr

Doug, guy… you having a bad couple of days or something?? Generally you have something to substantiate your statements. But lately, you’re clinging to your own “bitter” opinions and piss poor analyses instead of facts.

First off: SOFAs… it matters not if they don’t come to agreement or not. They can either renew the UN mandate to let the next POTUS battle it out, or not renew and we can come home. But there are issues the US needs to battle for on behalf or *our* troops in these SOFAs. You place too much on the contentious negotiations, and again are premature with your doom ‘n’ gloom.

Quite frankly, none of this negotiating should be a surprise. Since they know Bush’s is going to be gone, they may just prefer to do more pushing/shoving to delay, and telegraph what they want to the next POTUS. Nothing outrageous about that. And if it’s a President Obama, I fear they will get all they want and more…. hanging our troops and contractors – and their protection – out to dry.

You sweat the SOFAs overly much – casting them as the lead player in your fantasy play of “Bush Failure”. You present them as the harbinger of strategic loss. If they don’t come to agreement, Iraq is on it’s own, sans US help. I wish they were that confident, but I believe they aren’t to that point yet. So there will be much pushing and shoving in order to get the upper hand on the final agreement in Bush’s final days, or in the pre-assumption days of the new POTUS.

But the fat lady ain’t on stage yet. She’s not even in the wings, but merely knocking at the stage door. Your “expertise” in this is biased, and based on nothing but what you think you see in your own crystal ball.

But you, my friend, constantly root for the wrong side, IMHO. I must ask you… just what is this unseeming glee you derive from foreseeing a US failure?

Also, you bet your tuckus that Maliki, or any leader of a Muslim country, has to do a careful wire act of balance between working with the US – and the perception of that relationship with the country’s citizens. Pakistan’s Musharraf is a prime example of a “hostile” ally, so to speak. If you expect anything different from a “Muslim” ally, then your naivety is beyond words. At best, we can only hope for quiet cooperation behind the scenes, and public chastising for show. i.e… do you see your predicted fallout for the raid that killed a Maliki relative? You do remember your doom ‘n’ gloom forecasts for that event, yes? We got a public “tut tut” in strong words, and it has slipped quietly into the night and out of the front page headlines. So your seer skills are decidedly lacking, and your credibility fer sheeeet on your predictions.

Secondly, your statement:

Quite simply because a long-term occupation of Iraq was the goal for the Administration, and it failed

Just plain an outright lie, Doug. Really now. Again, you rely on a piss poor analysis of the Declaration of Principles. No permanent bases has always been the plan from this administration.

If you don’t believe you’re propagating an outright lie, that means you can only defend your statement by parsing the words, “long term”…. ala a 2008 version of “it all depends on what the meaning of *is*.. is”.

If the 2007 Declaration of Principles is your foundation for your perceived “long term occupation of Iraq was the goal”, then even the anti-free-Iraq Obama is on the same page for what is a reasonable plan for Iraq stability. Such is a proven method for stablizing a nation after regime change. Yet you spit it out like it’s annexing Iraq as the 51st State… or the 58th in the case of Obama’s nation.

“long term occupation” my ass. You deliberately misrepresent something in order to portray this US President as some sort of land grabber/empire builder. And frankly, it’s getting on my nerves.

BHO (in his speech today) says he plans to leave troops in Iraq for training, back up security and going after foreign terrorist cells. This basic idea differs not one iota from the current plan for US presence in Iraq. Thereby the “long term” occupation will contine until the Iraqis ask us to formally remove all troops and bases… just as it would be if this POTUS were at the beginning of another term. That “long term” occupation not only hasn’t “failed”, but has been promised to be continued even by the ever vacillating, BHO… providing MoveOn.org doesn’t get to him with other plans. Which then brings us to the purpose of the D of P.

The D of P are, in essence, promises made on behalf of the US to watch the Iraqis backs until they are fully confident on their own to ask for total removal of all US/coalition forces. The Iraqis need to be secure that the US will stand by that fledgling country until it’s self-sufficient. Ask the Afghanis, who were treated to views of our backs as the US bugged out early decades ago. It is their insurance that a POTUS desiring to cave to liberal activist lobbists doesn’t throw Iraq to the jihadist wolves merely for domestic popularity.

You are incorrect that Sistani is never mentioned on conservative blogs. He’s mentioned when he’s relevant. However you also chose to ignore that Sistani not only has not been speaking out to incite trouble, but has consistantly chosen to back the elected Iraq government. Thereby when we speak of the Iraq govt, we are also including their own counseling from Sistani as part of their voice. We have no reason to negotiate with Sistani directly as he is no a position of authority for us to do so. Yet you present him like he’s the unofficial commander of an army laying in wait – looking for the opportune moment to pounce and declare civil war.

Withdrawal has been in the cards because events on the ground dictate that Iraq’s improvement at self-security allows us to come home. That you believe this is a success for the next POTUS is absurd. It would happen under JSM as well as BHO. Not because of them. But because of Bush, Maliki, our military and the Iraqis themselves. No bone to either potential POTUS from me for withdrawal under these circumstances.

Obama “got it right. Mostly”? You’re dreaming if you think he’s doing anything different in the future than this CIC already has planned. Altho I seriously doubt Obama does anything right, as he blindly follows his advisors advice. He has proven he has no back bone, nor moral principles that are worth defending.

For Iraq wonks only: A resource for permanent basing in Iraq:
http://www.comw.org/warreport/iraqarchivepermbase.html

A concise argument for a US long-term presence in Iraq:
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/occupation/report/bases.htm

A quicky political narrative on the ‘problem’ in The Declaration of Principles…

(NPR) President Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki issued a joint letter in November. On the surface, the “Declaration of Principles” appears as a mutual “expression of friendship,” as it has been characterized by administration officials.

But a closer look reveals a blueprint for how the two administrations plan to set the foundation for the future of America’s involvement in Iraq.

When administration officials describe that vision, the language they use is vague. The president recently spoke of an “enduring relationship.” Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice talks about “a relationship with Iraq for the long term.” Defense Secretary Robert Gates outlined “a mutually agreed arrangement whereby we have a long and enduring presence.”

Rep. Bill Delahunt (D-MA) says such language is vague, and he has launched a series of congressional hearings to find out what it means.

He’s asked administration officials to testify but, so far, they’ve all either ignored him or declined. Delahunt says they have declined because he and other lawmakers want to get a sense of secret negotiations under way between Pentagon and State Department officials and their Iraqi counterparts on the future relationship between Washington and Baghdad.

The “Declaration of Principles” includes language that seems run-of-the-mill. The United States will help get Iraq into the World Trade Organization. The two countries will engage in scientific and cultural exchanges.

‘Internal and External Threats’

But it also includes a provision that promises to maintain the stability of Iraq’s government from “internal and external threats.” This sentence is raising alarms for some U.S. lawmakers.

Any such agreement would be considered a treaty by many legal experts. And under the U.S. Constitution, treaties have to be ratified by Congress.

“The declaration of principles would appear to commit the United States to keeping the elected Iraqi government in power against internal threats,” says Kenneth Katzman, a Middle East analyst at the Congressional Research Service. “I leave it to the lawyers to determine whether that’s the definition of a treaty or not but it certainly seems to be — is going to be — a hefty U.S. commitment to Iraq for a long time.”

Such a hefty commitment would be unprecedented in the history of American foreign policy.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18357565

So… Democrats said, “Are you kiddin’??”


(NYT) Democratic critics have complained that the initial announcement about the administration’s intention to negotiate an agreement, made Nov. 26, included an American pledge to support Iraq “in defending its democratic system against internal and external threats.”

Representative Bill Delahunt, Democrat of Massachusetts, said that what the administration was negotiating amounted to a treaty and should be subjected to Congressional oversight and ultimately ratification.

“Where have we ever had an agreement to defend a foreign country from external attack and internal attack that was not a treaty?” he said Wednesday at a hearing of a foreign affairs subcommittee held to review the matter. “This could very well implicate our military forces in a full-blown civil war in Iraq. If a commitment of this magnitude does not rise to the level of a treaty, then it is difficult to imagine what could.”

Senator Jim Webb, Democrat of Virginia, who raised concerns in a letter to the White House in December, said the negotiations were an unprecedented step toward making an agreement on status of forces without the overarching security guarantees like those provided in the NATO treaty. He added that the Democratic majority would seek to block any agreements with the Iraqis, unless the administration was clear about its ultimate intentions in Iraq.

“There’s no exit strategy, because the administration doesn’t have one,” Senator Webb said in a telephone interview on Thursday. “By entering this agreement, they avoid a debate and they validate their unspoken strategy.”

Over recent days, administration officials acknowledged that the language of the Nov. 26 announcement went too far. The officials said that they were limiting the scope of the pending negotiations to issues that could be resolved this year, before the Security Council resolution expired.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/world/middleeast/25military.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&fta=y&pagewanted=print

Legalisms, Implications… and ‘hidden agendas’…

(Washington Independent) The negotiation [for a SOFA], set to conclude this summer, will establish the basis for a long-term U.S. occupation of Iraq. According to the Bush administration, the Iraqi government requested a bilateral agreement to replace the expiring U.N. mandate for the occupation, which offended Iraqi sovereignty. Asked if there was any irony in preparing a plan to keep thousands of foreign soldiers in Iraq in the name of Iraqi sovereignty, a National Security Council official, who requested anonymity, replied, “Sure, but we plan to negotiate that aspect” of the agreement.

(Matt Mahurin) Critics in the U.S. and in the Middle East are talking about the impending accords as the fulfillment of a hidden agenda. On Al Jazeera’s “Inside Iraq” program, a recent report on the negotiations began: “This firm handshake between President Bush and Prime Minister al-Maliki may seal what had been predicted all along: that the U.S. has no intention of withdrawing from Iraq.” Indeed, for years, the U.S. military in Iraq has quietly constructed massive bases that can garrison tens of thousands of troops indefinitely.

Another line of criticism concerns both the timing and the unilateralism of the negotiations. The Bush administration has less than a year in office, yet it is now negotiating a deal that will commit the U.S. to an open-ended continuation of its most momentous, and controversial, foreign-policy decision. At the very least, the accord will prove a thorny issue for any successor Democratic administration that wins election on a promise to end the war.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the Democratic presidential candidate, wrote a letter to the president about this in January. The move “suggests the United States will indeed construct permanent bases in Iraq, feeding the perception that we intend to remain an occupying force for years to come,” Obama wrote. “It would tie the hands of the next commander-in-chief, decreasing his or her flexibility to confront a dynamic threat environment that has shown Al Qaeda more dangerous than at any time since September 11, 2001.”

Obama further requested that the president “submit any agreement reached in [U.S.-Iraqi] negotiations to the Senate for its advice and consent.” That’s precisely what the administration resists.

Ever since it announced in November that it would seek a long-term security agreement with Iraq, the Bush administration has refused to call the agreement a “treaty,” since that would require Senate ratification — something a Democratic-controlled Senate is sure to reject. A key State Dept. official, David M. Satterfield, recently testified that the agreement “will not include a binding commitment to defend Iraq or any other security commitments that would warrant Senate advice and consent.” Critics describe that determination as both legalistic and cynical.

In fact, some administration officials agree with Obama, somewhat, about the purpose of the security agreement. In an off-the-record conversation, one official suggested that if the recalcitrant Iraqi government is to make any progress on sectarian reconciliation — as Democrats say they want to see — Iraqi politicians must know that the U.S. will stay in Iraq to support them. While the point is debatable, its implicit premise is that the agreement must indeed tie the hands of the next administration.

http://washingtonindependent.com/view/ensuring-permanence

Evidence for long-term basing…

The United States has been building large, expensive and long-lasting military bases in Iraq as well as an enormous new embassy complex in Baghdad. These construction projects are very controversial. Iraqis overwhelmingly oppose the bases, as numerous opinion polls have shown, and the US Congress has also rejected the spending of funds on “permanent” bases in Iraq. The bases and the embassy are widely seen as symbols that the US plans to wield exceptional military and political influence in Iraq — and in the region — for many years to come.

As of late 2006, there remained 55 US bases in Iraq,[3] among which commanders have chosen a small number for long-term or “enduring” development. The base-building process is now far along, with construction of major concrete runways, communications, utilities, and extensive amenities for troops.

These special bases are located in different regions of the country, permitting military control over the entire area of Iraq. The bases are centered around major military airfields, rebuilt from the Saddam era, which allow the resident ground forces to protect US air strike capabilities. The airfields give the bases some degree of independence from ground (and easily attacked) logistical support and they enable close coordination between ground forces and tactical air operations.

Though Pentagon budgets have made it impossible to determine precisely the sums devoted to Iraq base construction, considerably more than a billion dollars has been spent on these special bases.[4] In the 2006 supplemental budget, $348 million was allocated for further construction.[5]

Long-term US bases in Iraq are said to offer important advantages, according to US political and military strategists. On April 19, 2003, soon after US troops took control of Baghdad, reporters Thom Shanker and Eric Schmitt wrote a front-page article for the New York Times pointing to Pentagon plans to “maintain” four bases in Iraq for the long haul.[30] Rather than speak of “permanent bases,” the military preferred then to speak of “permanent access” to Iraq. [31] At about the same time, senior administration officials told the New York Times that the US was planning “a long-term military relationship with the emerging government of Iraq, one that would grant the Pentagon access to military bases and project American influence into the heart of the region.” [32]

Defense Secretary Rumsfeld was quick to deny these reports, telling the press the same month that talk of a permanent US military presence in Iraq is “inaccurate and unfortunate.” [33] Both President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld continued such denials, even while the construction of these vast facilities was already well under way. On February 17, 2005, Rumsfeld told the Senate Armed Services Committee: “I can assure you that we have no intention at the present time of putting permanent bases in Iraq.” [34] But members of Congress were beginning to wonder, since the Pentagon was asking them to authorize hundreds of millions in annual budgets to finance the base construction.

Military commanders in the field have been relatively frank in talking about the bases and their eventual use over the long term. Army Brigadier General Robert Pollman told a reporter in 2005: “Is this a swap for the Saudi bases? I don’t know… When we talk about enduring bases here, we’re talking about the present operation … But this makes sense. It makes a lot of logical sense.” [35] General John Abizaid, commanding US General in Iraq, commented to the press on March 14, 2006 that the US may want to keep a long-term military presence in Iraq to bolster pro-US “moderates” and to “protect the flow of oil in the region.” [36]

Larry Diamond, a Fellow at the conservative Hoover Institution at Stanford University and former adviser to Paul Bremer in Baghdad noted that the Bush administration would not declare that it is not seeking permanent bases in Iraq “because we are building permanent military bases in Iraq.” James Glanz of the New York Times notes that in the absence of a fully-functional Iraqi air force, the United States will be “responsible for air defenses” in Iraq “for some time to come.” And GlobalSecurity comments that the giant new communications tower at al-Balad base is “another sign of permanency.” [37]

A military funding bill drawn up in the Pentagon and passed by Congress in May 2005 said directly that some base construction projects in unnamed countries would be “permanent.” It said the funding would cover “in some very limited cases, permanent facilities” that would “include barracks, administrative space, vehicle maintenance facilities, aviation facilities, mobilization-demobilization barracks, and community support facilities,” in short, just about everything that is going into the major bases now being constructed in Iraq. [38]

Conclusion

In spite of growing opposition within the US Congress and within the Iraqi government, the Bush administration is pushing rapidly ahead with its construction programs for the long-term bases and for the massive embassy as well. Those who conceived these projects clearly had little sensitivity as to how Iraqis might react and little awareness of the powerful imagery and symbolism the US was creating. Such mammoth construction projects, costing billions of dollars, strongly suggest that their authors see Iraq as a US client state and as a base for US military operations in the Middle East region. As US congressman Ron Paul, a Republican from Texas, observed: “This [embassy] structure in Baghdad sends a message, like the military bases being built, that we expect to be in Iraq and running Iraq for a long time to come.” [67]

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/occupation/report/bases.htm

If it leaks, it sinks…


(Independent) America currently has 151,000 troops in Iraq and, even after projected withdrawals next month, troop levels will stand at more than 142,000 – 10 000 more than when the military “surge” began in January 2007. Under the terms of the new treaty, the Americans would retain the long-term use of more than 50 bases in Iraq. American negotiators are also demanding immunity from Iraqi law for US troops and contractors, and a free hand to carry out arrests and conduct military activities in Iraq without consulting the Baghdad government.

The precise nature of the American demands has been kept secret until now. The leaks are certain to generate an angry backlash in Iraq. “It is a terrible breach of our sovereignty,” said one Iraqi politician, adding that if the security deal was signed it would delegitimise the government in Baghdad which will be seen as an American pawn.

The US has repeatedly denied it wants permanent bases in Iraq but one Iraqi source said: “This is just a tactical subterfuge.” Washington also wants control of Iraqi airspace below 29,000ft and the right to pursue its “war on terror” in Iraq, giving it the authority to arrest anybody it wants and to launch military campaigns without consultation.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/revealed-secret-plan-to-keep-iraq-under-us-control-840512.html

Now McCain and Cheney have not kept this interest in maintaining a long-term presence in Iraq a secret. They simply keep saying AQ is perpetually ‘on the run’ or ‘victory’ is around the next corner, which it never is:

(ABC) Vice President Dick Cheney and Sen. John McCain vowed in meetings with Iraq’s prime minister Monday that the U.S. would maintain a long-term military presence in Iraq until al-Qaida is defeated there.

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0308/504352.html

Of course, no one ever defines ‘defeated,’ ‘victory’ or what other adjective used in the war. As long as the specter of AQ is can promote a public reaction, it’s good political feed and holds an unquestioning public by the back of the neck.

In the end the fat lady will sing. She’s testing her pipes right now.

As usual my ‘heavy-linker’ took a wash. Care to pick it out MH?

Done, Doug… see comment #8 to catch up with what came behind for Doug’s additions to the thread. Haven’t read myself, Doug… a bit swamped, but will catch up in a bit.

Mata

Okay, Doug… you’ve succeeded in proving my point that you are parsing the words “long term” and adding the word “occupation” in your own post.

The articles whisper of “hidden agendas” of the D or P’s, and cite proof as US building concrete runways, communications facilities and amenities for our troops that could last “long term”. Gee… what should they have been made of? Dirt runways, mud caked adobe huts and Coleman tents?? BTW, concrete is made up of a good amount of sand… of which they have plenty in Iraq. And any improvement could also be used by Iraqis in the future… ala military as well as commercial airports and local airports. Why build something half ass? Also note, many of these better constructed places were a reconstruction of what Saddam had to begin with. Where’s the conspiracy?

Again, no permanent bases is what has always been said by this admin. I still say you misreprent this as some sort of nefarious conspiracy to take over Iraq without their permission, and present Bush as some land grabber for US territory annexation.

And the fact remains you are still wrong. The “long term” occupation – even by your alarmist definition – will still be carried out… even by a President Obama. That’s because it’s prudent to back up that country (as long as they request us to do so) in a particularly volatile region of the world. All of which is particularly laughable. If BHO thinks like his former pastor that the US is responsible for 911 because of our foreign policy, keeping troops in Iraq, re-deploying them to Kuwait or elsewhere in Arab lands, is still a major “no no” for the jihad movement. Any western presence in Arab lands – or their desired Caliphate from Spain to China – is enough for them to plan to assail us a’new.

You’d better brace yourself for a reality. Despite all his promises and words, it’s more than likely that the Iraq policy of a President Obama will differ little from the continued policy of stand up Iraq, and then withdraw, by Bush. Because, quite frankly, we are nearing that turning point of passing the security baton. Even BHO isn’t dumb enough to screw it up this far into Iraq’s progress.