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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/14/barack-and-michelle-in-the-oval-office/#comment-98538</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only  Democrats would see this as a black and white nation.

Perhaps it&#039;s because their party has the former Exalted Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan serving his ninth term in the U.S. Senate.

Not exactly going to find ANY Republicans who were members of the KKK serving in the Senate now are we?

One way Democrat fingerpointing over race is just a convenient way for them to avoid ANY accounatability for their own actions on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only  Democrats would see this as a black and white nation.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s because their party has the former Exalted Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan serving his ninth term in the U.S. Senate.</p>
<p>Not exactly going to find ANY Republicans who were members of the KKK serving in the Senate now are we?</p>
<p>One way Democrat fingerpointing over race is just a convenient way for them to avoid ANY accounatability for their own actions on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthurstone, let&#039;s see some links to support your insinuation.  BTW, I guess we can leave it to a liberal to fan the flames of racism:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91V8FT81&amp;show_article=1

He&#039;s all yours Arthur, enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthurstone, let&#8217;s see some links to support your insinuation.  BTW, I guess we can leave it to a liberal to fan the flames of racism:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91V8FT81&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91V8FT81&amp;show_article=1</a></p>
<p>He&#8217;s all yours Arthur, enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: DW 5000</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW 5000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike H.&#039;s America, race is one of the central issues of American society, past and present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike H.&#8217;s America, race is one of the central issues of American society, past and present.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthurstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthurstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike typed:

Leave it to a liberal to fan the flames of racism.


Not quite Mike.

Middle class whites such as you merely deciding &#039;color no longer should matter&#039;, doesn&#039;t make it so. I wish that were true but it isn&#039;t.

As for your hero Ronald Reagan he pitched his 1980 campaign from the very beginning to the racist vote by kicking it off at the Neshoba County Fair (this after having received an endorsement from the KKK). Likewise his opposition to civil rights legislation and open housing laws while governor of California is nothing to be proud of.

Even David Brooks can&#039;t help but admit “it’s obviously true that race played a role in the GOP ascent” .

And so it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike typed:</p>
<p>Leave it to a liberal to fan the flames of racism.</p>
<p>Not quite Mike.</p>
<p>Middle class whites such as you merely deciding &#8216;color no longer should matter&#8217;, doesn&#8217;t make it so. I wish that were true but it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>As for your hero Ronald Reagan he pitched his 1980 campaign from the very beginning to the racist vote by kicking it off at the Neshoba County Fair (this after having received an endorsement from the KKK). Likewise his opposition to civil rights legislation and open housing laws while governor of California is nothing to be proud of.</p>
<p>Even David Brooks can&#8217;t help but admit “it’s obviously true that race played a role in the GOP ascent” .</p>
<p>And so it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave it to a liberal to fan the flames of racism.

Well, I guess we already know there is nothing they won&#039;t do to acquire political power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to a liberal to fan the flames of racism.</p>
<p>Well, I guess we already know there is nothing they won&#8217;t do to acquire political power.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthurstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthurstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike typed:

&#039;Frankly, racism is not even a significant issue in this election&#039;.


Racism is fundamental to every discussion about American politics from 1776 up until and including 2008.

And to deny that fact is to fly in the face of reality.

Back to the camellias Mike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike typed:</p>
<p>&#8216;Frankly, racism is not even a significant issue in this election&#8217;.</p>
<p>Racism is fundamental to every discussion about American politics from 1776 up until and including 2008.</p>
<p>And to deny that fact is to fly in the face of reality.</p>
<p>Back to the camellias Mike.</p>
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		<title>By: seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This i a real piece of artwork.   A perfection.   It really mimics the reality.

It will shame the works of Michelangelo and DaVinci.  Best artistry in the 21st Century.  I will go down the history as the best political art of all time.

More caricature pls, NYers.   Your journalism for the first time has passed the mark, even just for the caricature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This i a real piece of artwork.   A perfection.   It really mimics the reality.</p>
<p>It will shame the works of Michelangelo and DaVinci.  Best artistry in the 21st Century.  I will go down the history as the best political art of all time.</p>
<p>More caricature pls, NYers.   Your journalism for the first time has passed the mark, even just for the caricature.</p>
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		<title>By: missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, here&#039;s Ryan Lizza&#039;s Obama article &quot;inside&quot; the New Yorker.  Long, interesting and revealing.  No wonder the Obama campaign wants the focus to be on the cover.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/080721fa_fact_lizza?printable=true

Hmmm.  Isn&#039;t Ryan Lizza a progressive, liberal or left leaning?  Much like the New Yorker?  Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, here&#8217;s Ryan Lizza&#8217;s Obama article &#8220;inside&#8221; the New Yorker.  Long, interesting and revealing.  No wonder the Obama campaign wants the focus to be on the cover.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/080721fa_fact_lizza?printable=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/080721fa_fact_lizza?printable=true</a></p>
<p>Hmmm.  Isn&#8217;t Ryan Lizza a progressive, liberal or left leaning?  Much like the New Yorker?  Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunday talk shows, huh? I&#039;ll humor you, DW, I&#039;ll do it, if you want it so badly. 

Mind you, it&#039;s not what makes me oppose BHO either, just like MataHarley. There are a lot more reasons as to why I don&#039;t like BHO, and none of it has to do with color or any other petty factor of the like. Sorry to say, I&#039;m not the wingnut you&#039;re looking for, but you&#039;re welcome to keep on looking. It&#039;s just a bit of humor, and that&#039;s what I made my comment on - the humor behind the satire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunday talk shows, huh? I&#8217;ll humor you, DW, I&#8217;ll do it, if you want it so badly. </p>
<p>Mind you, it&#8217;s not what makes me oppose BHO either, just like MataHarley. There are a lot more reasons as to why I don&#8217;t like BHO, and none of it has to do with color or any other petty factor of the like. Sorry to say, I&#8217;m not the wingnut you&#8217;re looking for, but you&#8217;re welcome to keep on looking. It&#8217;s just a bit of humor, and that&#8217;s what I made my comment on &#8211; the humor behind the satire.</p>
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		<title>By: gabba gabba hey</title>
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		<dc:creator>gabba gabba hey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know.  What does Hillary&#039;s hand smell like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  What does Hillary&#8217;s hand smell like?</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strike&gt;Dang... can&#039;t get the &quot;img src&quot; code to work. &lt;/strike&gt;

Finally!   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/10/25/new-yorker-wins-_e_32449.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Heres the link to HuffPo story inre the Bush New Yawker cover.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/new-yorker-cover-winner-thumb.jpg&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strike>Dang&#8230; can&#8217;t get the &#8220;img src&#8221; code to work. </strike></p>
<p>Finally!   <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/10/25/new-yorker-wins-_e_32449.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Heres the link to HuffPo story inre the Bush New Yawker cover.</b></a> </p>
<p><img src="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/new-yorker-cover-winner-thumb.jpg"/></p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heard a New Yorker official comment on the cover.  Said it was meant as humorous satire, highlighting all the crazy views of the right.  They also said that it was perhaps &quot;too sophisticated&quot; of humor for the average citizen &quot;to get&quot;.  

So it&#039;s back to the ol&#039; &quot;citizens are too dumb to make wise decisions for their own lives&quot; fundamentals of liberalism.

Personally, I thought the &#039;toon was hilarious in the caricatures.  None of what they portrayed is my reasons for despising BHO as a choice for POTUS, mind you. But it captured many of the bizarre arguments that have been raised.

Of course, as one pundit pointed out, their flaw was they combined the absurd with an element of truth... the absurd being the &quot;Obama is a Muslim&quot;, &quot;Michelle is a radical&quot;, &quot;Obama is unpatriotic&quot;, &quot;Obama would talk to Osama&quot;.  The truth in the middle of it all?  The &quot;fist bump&quot;.  That pundit wasn&#039;t much better when talking down to the masses... saying that bit of &quot;truth&quot; made the rest &quot;confusing&quot;.

sigh...  everyone&#039;s sense of humor has just flown out the door.  Doesn&#039;t anyone remember the New Yorker cover of the year with Bush &amp; staff in the oval office after Katrina?  Was there as much &quot;a dooo&quot; about that as this?



Everyone expected the JSM camp to protest this BHO/MO cover as they are trying to distance themselves from this crapola.  However this was done by a liberal organization.  And liberals themselves are whining.... including the Obama&#039;s.   Unbelievable...   If he can&#039;t take satire... even stuff produced on his behalf... he hasn&#039;t got the spine to live thru what the media will do to him as POTUS.

Some how, I&#039;m sure this will be &quot;all Bush&#039;s fault&quot;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heard a New Yorker official comment on the cover.  Said it was meant as humorous satire, highlighting all the crazy views of the right.  They also said that it was perhaps &#8220;too sophisticated&#8221; of humor for the average citizen &#8220;to get&#8221;.  </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s back to the ol&#8217; &#8220;citizens are too dumb to make wise decisions for their own lives&#8221; fundamentals of liberalism.</p>
<p>Personally, I thought the &#8216;toon was hilarious in the caricatures.  None of what they portrayed is my reasons for despising BHO as a choice for POTUS, mind you. But it captured many of the bizarre arguments that have been raised.</p>
<p>Of course, as one pundit pointed out, their flaw was they combined the absurd with an element of truth&#8230; the absurd being the &#8220;Obama is a Muslim&#8221;, &#8220;Michelle is a radical&#8221;, &#8220;Obama is unpatriotic&#8221;, &#8220;Obama would talk to Osama&#8221;.  The truth in the middle of it all?  The &#8220;fist bump&#8221;.  That pundit wasn&#8217;t much better when talking down to the masses&#8230; saying that bit of &#8220;truth&#8221; made the rest &#8220;confusing&#8221;.</p>
<p>sigh&#8230;  everyone&#8217;s sense of humor has just flown out the door.  Doesn&#8217;t anyone remember the New Yorker cover of the year with Bush &amp; staff in the oval office after Katrina?  Was there as much &#8220;a dooo&#8221; about that as this?</p>
<p>Everyone expected the JSM camp to protest this BHO/MO cover as they are trying to distance themselves from this crapola.  However this was done by a liberal organization.  And liberals themselves are whining&#8230;. including the Obama&#8217;s.   Unbelievable&#8230;   If he can&#8217;t take satire&#8230; even stuff produced on his behalf&#8230; he hasn&#8217;t got the spine to live thru what the media will do to him as POTUS.</p>
<p>Some how, I&#8217;m sure this will be &#8220;all Bush&#8217;s fault&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCal Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCal Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, I despise racism (can&#039;t say &#039;hate&#039; these days), and while I&#039;m sure there are those people who hold Obama&#039;s color against him, I could care less if he was white, black, purple or green (unless he&#039;s a martian--I&#039;d take issue with that).  I just want the next president to love this country above all else, and desire to serve her rather than be served by her.  


[Specifically those who assert, against all evidence, that Obama is a Muslim.]   It&#039;s the statement &quot;against all evidence&quot; that I have problems with.  He learned the Koran when in school in Indonesia and reflects favorably on those times.  Both his father and step-father were Muslim.  He has pretty close associations with Louis Farrakhan.  What seems to me the most important thing here is  that he LIES about not having any association with Muslims or the Muslim faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, I despise racism (can&#8217;t say &#8216;hate&#8217; these days), and while I&#8217;m sure there are those people who hold Obama&#8217;s color against him, I could care less if he was white, black, purple or green (unless he&#8217;s a martian&#8211;I&#8217;d take issue with that).  I just want the next president to love this country above all else, and desire to serve her rather than be served by her.  </p>
<p>[Specifically those who assert, against all evidence, that Obama is a Muslim.]   It&#8217;s the statement &#8220;against all evidence&#8221; that I have problems with.  He learned the Koran when in school in Indonesia and reflects favorably on those times.  Both his father and step-father were Muslim.  He has pretty close associations with Louis Farrakhan.  What seems to me the most important thing here is  that he LIES about not having any association with Muslims or the Muslim faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was no &quot;whining&quot; involved Artie.

You&#039;re insistence that only conservatives could be racist is so absurd that it merely highlights your total failure to grasp reality.

The arrogance, matched only by the ignorance of your comment simply underscores how totally out of touch you are with the American people.

Frankly, racism is not even a significant issue in this election.

Though it seems to be more of an issue with liberals than with conservatives.

Have you taken up your viewpoint with Ted Ralls?

&lt;img src=&quot;http://thebluesite.com/images/ted_rall_is_an_idiot.gif&quot;/&gt;

Artie: You are an embarrasment to liberalsim!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no &#8220;whining&#8221; involved Artie.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re insistence that only conservatives could be racist is so absurd that it merely highlights your total failure to grasp reality.</p>
<p>The arrogance, matched only by the ignorance of your comment simply underscores how totally out of touch you are with the American people.</p>
<p>Frankly, racism is not even a significant issue in this election.</p>
<p>Though it seems to be more of an issue with liberals than with conservatives.</p>
<p>Have you taken up your viewpoint with Ted Ralls?</p>
<p><img src="http://thebluesite.com/images/ted_rall_is_an_idiot.gif"/></p>
<p>Artie: You are an embarrasment to liberalsim!</p>
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		<title>By: Arthurstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthurstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike whined:

I think “Arthur” willfully neglects the fact that a large segment of DEMOCRATS, liberals even, hold racist views of Obama.



I intentionally wrote &#039;conservatives&#039; Mike. Such a label cuts across party lines including reactionaries from both parties who find common ground in extreme racial politics.

Too subtle for you? I know it&#039;s difficult to remember a world with &#039;liberal&#039; Republicans but such used to be case. Particularly here in Washington State. Been reading Pearlstein&#039;s &#039;Nixonland&#039; this past week and he makes the point over and again that &#039;conservatives&#039; exist in both major parties and that US politics these past 40-odd years has been a head-long race to get the rightest the fastest.

I tend to agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike whined:</p>
<p>I think “Arthur” willfully neglects the fact that a large segment of DEMOCRATS, liberals even, hold racist views of Obama.</p>
<p>I intentionally wrote &#8216;conservatives&#8217; Mike. Such a label cuts across party lines including reactionaries from both parties who find common ground in extreme racial politics.</p>
<p>Too subtle for you? I know it&#8217;s difficult to remember a world with &#8216;liberal&#8217; Republicans but such used to be case. Particularly here in Washington State. Been reading Pearlstein&#8217;s &#8216;Nixonland&#8217; this past week and he makes the point over and again that &#8216;conservatives&#8217; exist in both major parties and that US politics these past 40-odd years has been a head-long race to get the rightest the fastest.</p>
<p>I tend to agree.</p>
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