I don’t see McCain’s wife doing anything close to that.

Since we know next to nothing about Obama, it does help to look for personality clues by examining his spouse. But past a point, I would agree it’s not helpful.

Why waste too much time attaching unpatriotic Michelle when her husband is just as bad or WORSE?

Obama would raise everyone’s taxes, destroy our military, weaken our alliances and let the left wing loons run riot with their flawed social strategies.

The stellar commentary from Mata and others (in other posts) is demeaned by the snarky, mental midgetry of individuals that seem to get some dark sexual gratification at trying to tear down a woman because her husband is running for President.

Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama should be off limits, but many of the monkeys in the peanut gallery just can’t seem to recognize that this line of personal destruction only denigrates our process and commentary and makes us all look small.

Just For The Record
I suggest that those who are concerned about how much money CM spends or her pass personal problems or MO master’s thesis or whether she was an AA beneficiary, get a life.

(I was going to say that they go back to their former favorite pastime forearm workouts to mini me private gratification videos, but that might get me banned from the board and would be a bit snarky.)

Moreover, I don’t really mean it. It just seems undercut the quality of the discussion and there are so many more great topics of discussion available.

As for letter grades in school…yes, even presidents” (and wannabe-presidents like Kerry and Gore) can get bad grades.

Einstein , Leonardo da Vinci …..others come to mind.

Did you have a point to make?

Were any of you speech writers for GWB.

I wonder who wrote his master’s thesis? The Strategery of Beer Pong!

And McCain didn’t get affirmative action, but he definitely did not stay in the Naval Academy based on merit, being third from the bottom of his class.

If he wins, we will have another C,D student for President.

As C,D students, MO or BHO would have never saw the halls of the Ivy League even with affirmative action. More likely, community college.

How many slots did GWB, JM and their kind steal from top performers due to daddy’s connections or family money.

Just For The Record, CM seems like a nice lady and everyone makes mistakes. That doesn’t make the evil or terrible people.

But from a lot of these comments, there are very few open minds here.

However I don’t give a rat’s butt about her grammar, as I said before. I care about her attitudes and self presentation. For me, she would be an embarrassment as a First Lady.

Just out of curiosity, how do we know she didn’t actually say “have”? Do we have audio or video?

Also, why is it O.K. to do this to Michelle Obama and not the President? There are virtually endless comparable examples for him. I’ve heard many of them with my own ears. I once heard him refer to our enemies as being in the darkness and and us being in the “lightness.”

GWB – Andover, Yale, Harvard.

My SAT scores (which were really not all that impressive) were higher than his but didn’t get me into Princeton (I know I applied). Yet his got him into Yale.
Affirmative Action for rich kids from powerful families.

You racists!

I believe, Buzz… to use your examples… the correct grammical use would be “there is a people”. In which case, had MO used “there has been *a* people” might have been construed as more correct.

But that’s not even close to what the original sentence was implying. Yes “there is a people” is a correct phrase, but that only would be referring to a singular group of people. Its very obvious MO is not referring to only one single group that has always been around to tell her she can’t do something.

2nd edit: Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

I’ll get off my soapbox

However, to admit most common usage in language, most just use “persons”. But that’s why I say it can be debatable, depending upon to whom to speak, and how anal the language expert is.

I am US soil born, red-blooded American thru and thru… period. My grandparents were Slavs or Euros. I do not demean my heritage by doing this. Nor do I give it weight over my birthright as an American. I am simply an American with Slav/Euro ancestry.

You mean like these

The People I owe my Freedom to who after 43 years I finally found?

If you ever want to talk on Austia-Hungary and the Slavs MataH, let me know. I’d love to exchange info. I’ve been doing a lot of research the past few months.

(added: an article that explains it better than Icould: Yes, Barack Obama, We Are Bitter

However the concept of people as singular and plural units is an absolute in grammar. Either way, for a college thesis, it was an embarrassing presentation.