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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/28/the-msm-backs-obama-when-he-flips-flops/#comment-91928</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas said: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Obama = B. Clinton (I smoked, but didn’t inhale).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Thomas, Obama admits he did inhale. What we don&#039;t know is if he was peddling the stuff. Maybe we should ask &quot;Arthur&quot; where he gets his stash?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas said: <i>&#8220;Obama = B. Clinton (I smoked, but didn’t inhale).&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Thomas, Obama admits he did inhale. What we don&#8217;t know is if he was peddling the stuff. Maybe we should ask &#8220;Arthur&#8221; where he gets his stash?</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/28/the-msm-backs-obama-when-he-flips-flops/#comment-91314</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re finally figuring out your guy, Obama, is not straightforward, congratulations Mari Vega.  A tad late to your revelation, but better late than never.

As for JSM, I&#039;m not alone in being less than thrilled with the GOP nominee.  Votes for him will be tandamount to a lesser-of-two-evils vote against BHO, and to rail against implementing socialist policies in this country.

Corporations and large businesses are the mainstay of the free market, entrepreneurship, plus integral suppliers of jobs to the masses.  When we cross over to government as the largest employer, we are in a world of trouble.  

So if you&#039;re looking for those that despise corporations, and favor regulating-taxing-litigating them out of business, you&#039;ll probably find fewer sympathizers here than you&#039;d like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re finally figuring out your guy, Obama, is not straightforward, congratulations Mari Vega.  A tad late to your revelation, but better late than never.</p>
<p>As for JSM, I&#8217;m not alone in being less than thrilled with the GOP nominee.  Votes for him will be tandamount to a lesser-of-two-evils vote against BHO, and to rail against implementing socialist policies in this country.</p>
<p>Corporations and large businesses are the mainstay of the free market, entrepreneurship, plus integral suppliers of jobs to the masses.  When we cross over to government as the largest employer, we are in a world of trouble.  </p>
<p>So if you&#8217;re looking for those that despise corporations, and favor regulating-taxing-litigating them out of business, you&#8217;ll probably find fewer sympathizers here than you&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/28/the-msm-backs-obama-when-he-flips-flops/#comment-91302</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama = B. Clinton (I smoked, but didn&#039;t inhale).

Come on... Obama will say anything to get elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama = B. Clinton (I smoked, but didn&#8217;t inhale).</p>
<p>Come on&#8230; Obama will say anything to get elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Mari Vega</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/28/the-msm-backs-obama-when-he-flips-flops/#comment-91037</link>
		<dc:creator>Mari Vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In recent weeks, I have begun to get the gnawing feeling that the candidate I was backing was not as straightforward as he seemed.  Anybody else want to own up to that?  For starters, and to take the example mentioned here, both candidates are screwin&#039; around when it comes to campaign finance.  The problem needs to be addressed at the root--all elections should be publicly funded, all voting boxes should be literally transparent, and we need to help establish more choices than this &quot;Either/Or&quot; kind of &#039;democracy&#039;.

We can all keep pointing fingers, and I guess we will, until some day or other, this country gets put on lockdown and there&#039;ll be no freedom or security for the Great Majority, whoever we are.  

Everybody who knows how to read and can dial a phone needs to get their sleeves rolled up and start holding all levels of government, and all un-elected power-holders (such as corporations), ACCOUNTABLE--to us, &lt;b&gt;all of us.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In recent weeks, I have begun to get the gnawing feeling that the candidate I was backing was not as straightforward as he seemed.  Anybody else want to own up to that?  For starters, and to take the example mentioned here, both candidates are screwin&#8217; around when it comes to campaign finance.  The problem needs to be addressed at the root&#8211;all elections should be publicly funded, all voting boxes should be literally transparent, and we need to help establish more choices than this &#8220;Either/Or&#8221; kind of &#8216;democracy&#8217;.</p>
<p>We can all keep pointing fingers, and I guess we will, until some day or other, this country gets put on lockdown and there&#8217;ll be no freedom or security for the Great Majority, whoever we are.  </p>
<p>Everybody who knows how to read and can dial a phone needs to get their sleeves rolled up and start holding all levels of government, and all un-elected power-holders (such as corporations), ACCOUNTABLE&#8211;to us, <b>all of us.</b></p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/28/the-msm-backs-obama-when-he-flips-flops/#comment-90980</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthurstone, your thought patterns must be skewed, guy.

First off, of the 12 pieces of legislation linked,  the Deployment of troops linked on Salon was not a GOP/Bush supported legislation. Duh... In that one,  only a few of the radical progressives voted yes.  

BHO did one of his two,  rare GOP side stances on that deployment bill... but hardly bucking the DNC majority.    He took that &quot;risk&quot; move with 23 other DNC members. wow... I&#039;m impressed.

The  *only* other time BHO voted with the GOP and against his liberal leadership was for the Patriot Act renewal.  At that time, BHO again took  *huge risks* being &quot;bi-partisan&quot; along with 33 other DNC members.

Wow... there&#039;s a guy standing out from the crowd, and taking risks as a maverick for ya.  NOT!

He was excluded from one of the 12,  the AUMF, because he wasn&#039;t a Senator.  His personal opinion matters not because he was not privvy to intel the Senators had.  He based his opinion on the same data you had as a private citizen.  

BHO couldn&#039;t even find it within himself to really take a risk and condemn MoveOn.org for the Betrayus ad.... scumbucket that he is.

By contrast, Mac voted against his GOP peers  in FISA, Mukasey, Kyl-Lieberman, and Protect America Act.  Uh, that&#039;s voting WITH the DNC, if you didn&#039;t figure that out.

Other than MoveOn, which should have been a no brainer for any of them to vote yea, it is never low risk for a GOP candidate to cross the party when he&#039;s seeking the nomination.

And those votes are accounting for the few fleetingCongressional moments in time BHO&#039;s been around to participate.  Now  would you like to go back thru JSM&#039;s prior 40 some odd years of bucking the GOP trend?

Whether you intended to affirm, or just didn&#039;t read the links from your own link, you absolutely proved JSM is far more a &quot;maverick&quot; than BHO, the partisan/no risk guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthurstone, your thought patterns must be skewed, guy.</p>
<p>First off, of the 12 pieces of legislation linked,  the Deployment of troops linked on Salon was not a GOP/Bush supported legislation. Duh&#8230; In that one,  only a few of the radical progressives voted yes.  </p>
<p>BHO did one of his two,  rare GOP side stances on that deployment bill&#8230; but hardly bucking the DNC majority.    He took that &#8220;risk&#8221; move with 23 other DNC members. wow&#8230; I&#8217;m impressed.</p>
<p>The  *only* other time BHO voted with the GOP and against his liberal leadership was for the Patriot Act renewal.  At that time, BHO again took  *huge risks* being &#8220;bi-partisan&#8221; along with 33 other DNC members.</p>
<p>Wow&#8230; there&#8217;s a guy standing out from the crowd, and taking risks as a maverick for ya.  NOT!</p>
<p>He was excluded from one of the 12,  the AUMF, because he wasn&#8217;t a Senator.  His personal opinion matters not because he was not privvy to intel the Senators had.  He based his opinion on the same data you had as a private citizen.  </p>
<p>BHO couldn&#8217;t even find it within himself to really take a risk and condemn <a href="http://MoveOn.org" title="http://MoveOn.org" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">MoveOn.org&#8230;</a> for the Betrayus ad&#8230;. scumbucket that he is.</p>
<p>By contrast, Mac voted against his GOP peers  in FISA, Mukasey, Kyl-Lieberman, and Protect America Act.  Uh, that&#8217;s voting WITH the DNC, if you didn&#8217;t figure that out.</p>
<p>Other than MoveOn, which should have been a no brainer for any of them to vote yea, it is never low risk for a GOP candidate to cross the party when he&#8217;s seeking the nomination.</p>
<p>And those votes are accounting for the few fleetingCongressional moments in time BHO&#8217;s been around to participate.  Now  would you like to go back thru JSM&#8217;s prior 40 some odd years of bucking the GOP trend?</p>
<p>Whether you intended to affirm, or just didn&#8217;t read the links from your own link, you absolutely proved JSM is far more a &#8220;maverick&#8221; than BHO, the partisan/no risk guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthurstone</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/28/the-msm-backs-obama-when-he-flips-flops/#comment-90950</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthurstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MataHarley-

I know that Solon.com will send you to your fainting couch but you can easily check the accuracy of these votes at Powerline. 


http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/30/bipartisanship/

As for McCain he will occasionally cross his party membership if the stakes are low enough but anything substantive (condemning moveon.org for example ha ha) he will be a good little Republican and do as he&#039;s told.

McCain the &#039;maverick&#039; is a fiction.

Yet another invention of the alleged &#039;liberal&#039; corporate media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MataHarley-</p>
<p>I know that <a href="http://Solon.com" title="http://Solon.com" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">Solon.com&#8230;</a> will send you to your fainting couch but you can easily check the accuracy of these votes at Powerline. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/30/bipartisanship/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/30/bipartisanship/</a></p>
<p>As for McCain he will occasionally cross his party membership if the stakes are low enough but anything substantive (condemning <a href="http://moveon.org" title="http://moveon.org" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">moveon.org&#8230;</a> for example ha ha) he will be a good little Republican and do as he&#8217;s told.</p>
<p>McCain the &#8216;maverick&#8217; is a fiction.</p>
<p>Yet another invention of the alleged &#8216;liberal&#8217; corporate media.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac has a far more extensive record of bucking his GOP peers than BHO has bucking his liberal peers.

In fact, BHO&#039;s record - scant as it is - has no &quot;maverick&quot; or bi-partisan/unity behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac has a far more extensive record of bucking his GOP peers than BHO has bucking his liberal peers.</p>
<p>In fact, BHO&#8217;s record &#8211; scant as it is &#8211; has no &#8220;maverick&#8221; or bi-partisan/unity behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthurstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthurstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.

Would that would be the same &#039;MSM&#039; peddling the notion that John McCain is somehow a &#039;maverick&#039; with a &#039;strong independent&#039; streak?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn.</p>
<p>Would that would be the same &#8216;MSM&#8217; peddling the notion that John McCain is somehow a &#8216;maverick&#8217; with a &#8217;strong independent&#8217; streak?</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/28/the-msm-backs-obama-when-he-flips-flops/#comment-90849</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The fact of the matter is that while the MSM was pissed for a bit, within hours of the SCOTUS decision they were already back to spinning and ignoring the messiahs earlier statements that clearly show he flipped and flopped.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Can&#039;t say that I&#039;m surprised here, Curt.  The largest reason our nation has a short memory span for current events is because the media has a politically expedient short memory span.  The nation merely reflects our media &quot;education&quot;.

Mac/JSM is getting a bit of his own back.  It was not so long ago that he was garnishing the rapt attentions and coverage that BHO (that&#039;s Obama for the initial police...) enjoys today.  It might be important to notice that favortism didn&#039;t help JSM back then.

And a big congrats on attracting the eye of WaPo.  FA is truly your creation and work.  You should be proud to gain such notice in a world filled with countless numbers of blogs.  I, for one, am very pleased to be part of your supporting staff, guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The fact of the matter is that while the MSM was pissed for a bit, within hours of the SCOTUS decision they were already back to spinning and ignoring the messiahs earlier statements that clearly show he flipped and flopped.</p></blockquote>
<p>Can&#8217;t say that I&#8217;m surprised here, Curt.  The largest reason our nation has a short memory span for current events is because the media has a politically expedient short memory span.  The nation merely reflects our media &#8220;education&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mac/JSM is getting a bit of his own back.  It was not so long ago that he was garnishing the rapt attentions and coverage that BHO (that&#8217;s Obama for the initial police&#8230;) enjoys today.  It might be important to notice that favortism didn&#8217;t help JSM back then.</p>
<p>And a big congrats on attracting the eye of WaPo.  FA is truly your creation and work.  You should be proud to gain such notice in a world filled with countless numbers of blogs.  I, for one, am very pleased to be part of your supporting staff, guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have another Bill Clinton in the making.  AKA &quot;It depends on what the definition of &quot;is&quot; is.&quot;  And &quot;I did not have sexual relationship with that woman.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have another Bill Clinton in the making.  AKA &#8220;It depends on what the definition of &#8220;is&#8221; is.&#8221;  And &#8220;I did not have sexual relationship with that woman.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Slippery Stance on the Supreme Court&#8217;s Gun Ruling : BigMouthFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s Slippery Stance on the Supreme Court&#8217;s Gun Ruling : BigMouthFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] L.A. Times Say&#8217;s NRA Won - The MSM Backs Obama When He Flips &amp; Flops [...]</description>
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