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		<title>By: The Baltimore Reporter</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-137949</link>
		<dc:creator>The Baltimore Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities. (Curt-But once ban was overturned he flip-flopped) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: UrbanGrounds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why We Shouldn&#8217;t Believe Obama&#8217;s Latest Lie About the Second Amendment</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-137726</link>
		<dc:creator>UrbanGrounds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why We Shouldn&#8217;t Believe Obama&#8217;s Latest Lie About the Second Amendment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities. (Curt-But once ban was overturned he flip-flopped) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Obama Says Gun Owners Need Not Worry&#8230;.Stop Buying Those Guns You Bitter Gun Clingers!</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-137515</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Obama Says Gun Owners Need Not Worry&#8230;.Stop Buying Those Guns You Bitter Gun Clingers!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities. (Curt-But once ban was overturned he flip-flopped) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Both Ways Barack One Stop Shop &#171; Quipster</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-124522</link>
		<dc:creator>Both Ways Barack One Stop Shop &#171; Quipster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Obama Flip-Flop Continues On Gun Bans.  Flopping Aces.  June 26, 2008. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: VicThrust</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-96550</link>
		<dc:creator>VicThrust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just appeared on Amazon.com &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=obama+flip+flopper&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;


I like it - it is so true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just appeared on <a href="http://Amazon.com" title="http://Amazon.com" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">Amazon.com&#8230;</a> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=obama+flip+flopper&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>I like it &#8211; it is so true.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Americans for McCain</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-93489</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Americans for McCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are the stickers to represent &#8220;Gunowners for Obama&#8220;? They have &#8220;Republicans for Obama&#8221;, so I can&#8217;t understand, for the life of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Ninth Major Flip-Flop is a Doozy. &#124; The Sundries Shack</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-93436</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s Ninth Major Flip-Flop is a Doozy. &#124; The Sundries Shack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his position (commonly-called a &#8220;flip-flop&#8221; or more honestly, a pandering deception) gun control, NAFTA, the FISA bill, financing his campaign, marijuana, the Cuba embargo, and meeting with Mad [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Baltimore Reporter</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-92571</link>
		<dc:creator>The Baltimore Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] latest flip-flops from Obama after he flipped over FISA, guns, and public financing, is his new stance on gay marriage. He once supported the rights of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Just For The Record</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-92387</link>
		<dc:creator>Just For The Record</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, I guess Mata work up on the wrong side of the bed.

I guess you didn&#039;t see the video where McCain stated that he was for an assault weapons ban but know that he is sitting in front of Outdoorsmen magazine he not for it so much any more. He makes these statements all in the same clip.

Lighten up, I know that you were a bit bruised yesterday. But I want peace.

Salute to you all.

And,

Just For The Record

I have never been to a BHO rally. I saw it on TV. Maybe that still makes me hypnotized.

I am an independent and drink kool-aide from both cups, but I have a fool proof detox plan called research and a healthy skepticism for anyone willing (stupid) enough to run for President.

I wanted Huck and like Buchanan for trade and immigration. And would probably vote for McCain, but his immigration views very similar to BHOs.

More than kool-aide, I just often need a stiff drink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, I guess Mata work up on the wrong side of the bed.</p>
<p>I guess you didn&#8217;t see the video where McCain stated that he was for an assault weapons ban but know that he is sitting in front of Outdoorsmen magazine he not for it so much any more. He makes these statements all in the same clip.</p>
<p>Lighten up, I know that you were a bit bruised yesterday. But I want peace.</p>
<p>Salute to you all.</p>
<p>And,</p>
<p>Just For The Record</p>
<p>I have never been to a BHO rally. I saw it on TV. Maybe that still makes me hypnotized.</p>
<p>I am an independent and drink kool-aide from both cups, but I have a fool proof detox plan called research and a healthy skepticism for anyone willing (stupid) enough to run for President.</p>
<p>I wanted Huck and like Buchanan for trade and immigration. And would probably vote for McCain, but his immigration views very similar to BHOs.</p>
<p>More than kool-aide, I just often need a stiff drink.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Here is a more nuanced position by Senator McCain on guns (He believes in an individual right, but he also believes in background checks and other common good measures to limit second amendment rights.He claims the NRA agrees with him, but they do not support background checks at gun shows for example.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wades ass deep into unknown waters, this one.  Now we&#039;re getting lectures from him about the NRA, based on his media education.

There is already background checks at gun shows and has been for years.  The latest Lautenberg assault on Constitutional rights is not a &quot;gun show loophole&quot; as advertised to the gullible.  It&#039;s a data collection scheme on every attendee to gun shows (broadly and vaguely defined), plus the ability for the FBI to keep background checks that pass for 90 days... i.e. an invasion of privacy.

But the JFTRs of the world walk around in a cerebral fog - willing to give away rights they don&#039;t care about as &quot;reasonable&quot; until it&#039;s a right they *do* care about.  You see, it&#039;s okay for Constitutional rights to stop at &quot;sensitive places&quot; to him for the RKBA, and it&#039;s up to him and the masses to decide what is a &quot;sensitive place&quot;.

And what if the masses decided that a BHO rally was a &quot;sensitive place&quot; - a possible gathering of people including Hamas, the New Black Panther Party, Socialist and Communist party members, and Bill Ayer&#039;s upcoming domestic terrorist proteges.  Using the S 2577 concept, JFTR and buds need to sign a ledger upon entry with their personal information.  That ledger must be retained by the rally promotor forever, and offered up for federal inspection upon every demand.  All because some of these citizens *may* be up to no good.

But, ya know, it was a &quot;sensitive place&quot;, and we supposedly accept that Constitutional rights stop  where a &quot;sensitive place&quot; starts.

I suspect the JFTR&#039;s of the world would be screaming &quot;foul&quot; and &quot;facist&quot; at the top of their lungs.  And they&#039;d be absolutely right...   But they would never equate what they believe is an obvious injustice to BHO rally attendees to their own demands for gun owners.  Such is an example of perspective by narcissists... never understanding that when the RKBA becomes so diluted as to be non-existent, the rest of our Constitutional rights will do the same.   

Check your free speech at the door, please.  This is a &quot;sensitive place&quot;, and only unity is allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Here is a more nuanced position by Senator McCain on guns (He believes in an individual right, but he also believes in background checks and other common good measures to limit second amendment rights.He claims the NRA agrees with him, but they do not support background checks at gun shows for example.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wades ass deep into unknown waters, this one.  Now we&#8217;re getting lectures from him about the NRA, based on his media education.</p>
<p>There is already background checks at gun shows and has been for years.  The latest Lautenberg assault on Constitutional rights is not a &#8220;gun show loophole&#8221; as advertised to the gullible.  It&#8217;s a data collection scheme on every attendee to gun shows (broadly and vaguely defined), plus the ability for the FBI to keep background checks that pass for 90 days&#8230; i.e. an invasion of privacy.</p>
<p>But the JFTRs of the world walk around in a cerebral fog &#8211; willing to give away rights they don&#8217;t care about as &#8220;reasonable&#8221; until it&#8217;s a right they *do* care about.  You see, it&#8217;s okay for Constitutional rights to stop at &#8220;sensitive places&#8221; to him for the RKBA, and it&#8217;s up to him and the masses to decide what is a &#8220;sensitive place&#8221;.</p>
<p>And what if the masses decided that a BHO rally was a &#8220;sensitive place&#8221; &#8211; a possible gathering of people including Hamas, the New Black Panther Party, Socialist and Communist party members, and Bill Ayer&#8217;s upcoming domestic terrorist proteges.  Using the S 2577 concept, JFTR and buds need to sign a ledger upon entry with their personal information.  That ledger must be retained by the rally promotor forever, and offered up for federal inspection upon every demand.  All because some of these citizens *may* be up to no good.</p>
<p>But, ya know, it was a &#8220;sensitive place&#8221;, and we supposedly accept that Constitutional rights stop  where a &#8220;sensitive place&#8221; starts.</p>
<p>I suspect the JFTR&#8217;s of the world would be screaming &#8220;foul&#8221; and &#8220;facist&#8221; at the top of their lungs.  And they&#8217;d be absolutely right&#8230;   But they would never equate what they believe is an obvious injustice to BHO rally attendees to their own demands for gun owners.  Such is an example of perspective by narcissists&#8230; never understanding that when the RKBA becomes so diluted as to be non-existent, the rest of our Constitutional rights will do the same.   </p>
<p>Check your free speech at the door, please.  This is a &#8220;sensitive place&#8221;, and only unity is allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Obama Flips One More Time&#8230;.Er, Make That Two More Times</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Obama Flips One More Time&#8230;.Er, Make That Two More Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-92306</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JFTR said: &lt;i&gt;&quot;I am not looking to bash Obama or McCain nor suck up to them. I just want to be able to make decisions with my eyes open, not just repeat talking points from either campaign.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Then he, or is it she? goes on to follow the Obama party line exactly.

Talk about &quot;distractions?&quot;  I saw everything but Hillary&#039;s kitchen sink tossed into those comments above.

Clearly Obama is sensitive on this issue. and since JFTR admits to sipping the Obama Kool Aid at one of those mass hypnosis rallies &lt;s&gt;Goebels&lt;/s&gt; Obama is famous for, I am not surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFTR said: <i>&#8220;I am not looking to bash Obama or McCain nor suck up to them. I just want to be able to make decisions with my eyes open, not just repeat talking points from either campaign.&#8221;</i> Then he, or is it she? goes on to follow the Obama party line exactly.</p>
<p>Talk about &#8220;distractions?&#8221;  I saw everything but Hillary&#8217;s kitchen sink tossed into those comments above.</p>
<p>Clearly Obama is sensitive on this issue. and since JFTR admits to sipping the Obama Kool Aid at one of those mass hypnosis rallies <s>Goebels</s> Obama is famous for, I am not surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Just For The Record</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just For The Record</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt and Mata,

I am not looking to bash Obama or McCain nor suck up to them. I just want to be able to make decisions with my eyes open, not just repeat talking points from either campaign.

We have an opportunity in this great internet age to get even more information about the candidates than ever before, but we have to be diligent and not just be spoon fed.

I think most people can see that regulations might vary depending on the location and populations. I don&#039;t see why that&#039;s so controversial. It&#039;s not that the 2A changes, but the limitations on the 2A may change depending on the location (which includes the population).

And Curt, you asked for proof that it wasn&#039;t a flip-flop by Obama.

I had personally heard Obama speak about the individual rights of gun owners, so it was a surpise to me that he was getting bashed on it. It was like that youtube did not exist. (I know that its fashionable to be outraged at McCain or Obama on nearly everything based on a persons party affiliation.)

However, I have your proof below. Some might try to mischaracterize it. There are many from each party that believes any words that come out of the other candidates mouths are lies, but you asked for evidence.

I have provided multiple clips. For a variety of politicians, but especially Obama. It&#039;s interesting that McCain also has a nuanced position on guns, but we don&#039;t hear about that. That is why we have to do our own research.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fl28DjKrgQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJFO6COAMCY

The person that even put out the video calls it a flip flop.

But if you listen to what Obama said, it is not.

But also Rudy Guiliani stated the same thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA317hBSv0c

Here is another Obama clip on Gun ownership:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB4ew09eoeQ&amp;NR=1

Here is a more nuanced position by Senator McCain on guns (He believes in an individual right, but he also believes in background checks and other common good measures to limit second amendment rights. He claims the NRA agrees with him, but they do not support background checks at gun shows for example.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b83zgbRnrFs

Here is another from McCain on Assualt Weapons where he seems to have supported it, but with Outdoor life he says perhaps not, but maybe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1225nKhhq-A

Here is Mitt Romney on Gun Control

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Ygw9CQ9po&amp;feature=related

Clinton and Obama PA Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjbLX3MkElE&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt and Mata,</p>
<p>I am not looking to bash Obama or McCain nor suck up to them. I just want to be able to make decisions with my eyes open, not just repeat talking points from either campaign.</p>
<p>We have an opportunity in this great internet age to get even more information about the candidates than ever before, but we have to be diligent and not just be spoon fed.</p>
<p>I think most people can see that regulations might vary depending on the location and populations. I don&#8217;t see why that&#8217;s so controversial. It&#8217;s not that the 2A changes, but the limitations on the 2A may change depending on the location (which includes the population).</p>
<p>And Curt, you asked for proof that it wasn&#8217;t a flip-flop by Obama.</p>
<p>I had personally heard Obama speak about the individual rights of gun owners, so it was a surpise to me that he was getting bashed on it. It was like that youtube did not exist. (I know that its fashionable to be outraged at McCain or Obama on nearly everything based on a persons party affiliation.)</p>
<p>However, I have your proof below. Some might try to mischaracterize it. There are many from each party that believes any words that come out of the other candidates mouths are lies, but you asked for evidence.</p>
<p>I have provided multiple clips. For a variety of politicians, but especially Obama. It&#8217;s interesting that McCain also has a nuanced position on guns, but we don&#8217;t hear about that. That is why we have to do our own research.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fl28DjKrgQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fl28DjKrgQ</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJFO6COAMCY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJFO6COAMCY</a></p>
<p>The person that even put out the video calls it a flip flop.</p>
<p>But if you listen to what Obama said, it is not.</p>
<p>But also Rudy Guiliani stated the same thing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA317hBSv0c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA317hBSv0c</a></p>
<p>Here is another Obama clip on Gun ownership:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB4ew09eoeQ&amp;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB4ew09eoeQ&amp;NR=1</a></p>
<p>Here is a more nuanced position by Senator McCain on guns (He believes in an individual right, but he also believes in background checks and other common good measures to limit second amendment rights. He claims the NRA agrees with him, but they do not support background checks at gun shows for example.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b83zgbRnrFs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b83zgbRnrFs</a></p>
<p>Here is another from McCain on Assualt Weapons where he seems to have supported it, but with Outdoor life he says perhaps not, but maybe</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1225nKhhq-A" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1225nKhhq-A</a></p>
<p>Here is Mitt Romney on Gun Control</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Ygw9CQ9po&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Ygw9CQ9po&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Clinton and Obama PA Debate<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjbLX3MkElE&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjbLX3MkElE&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Just For The Record</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just For The Record</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata,

Just for the record.

You talk about the future, but who knows what the court is going to be in the future.

I talked about today as the decision sits. Maybe you have special powers not available to much of the rest of society.

Maybe you are a time traveler, good luck with that.

If you are, I take back everything I said about you and can you let me know if the Patriots are going to win the Superbowl or the Lakers the NBA Finals.

And of course, if you do have special powers as a time traveler, you probably knew I was going to say that.

If you don&#039;t have any special powers, then you are still suspended. And I will see you next week at the remedial class, be sure to bring an apple for the teacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mata,</p>
<p>Just for the record.</p>
<p>You talk about the future, but who knows what the court is going to be in the future.</p>
<p>I talked about today as the decision sits. Maybe you have special powers not available to much of the rest of society.</p>
<p>Maybe you are a time traveler, good luck with that.</p>
<p>If you are, I take back everything I said about you and can you let me know if the Patriots are going to win the Superbowl or the Lakers the NBA Finals.</p>
<p>And of course, if you do have special powers as a time traveler, you probably knew I was going to say that.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have any special powers, then you are still suspended. And I will see you next week at the remedial class, be sure to bring an apple for the teacher.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/26/the-obama-flip-flop-continues-on-gun-bans/#comment-92128</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the record, you leave out the disclaimer in front of all of it...

&lt;blockquote&gt; Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You may wish to cut and paste from a more thorough &quot;collective&quot; source.

You must be one of Obama&#039;s younger cyber hit squad members to know so little of how court opinions begats waves of new challenges.   Specific limitations were not scrutinized in this case, as Scalia&#039;s plainly said with his opening disclaimer.  Thus your joy in banning Constitutional rights in  &quot;sensitive places&quot; for &quot;the collective good&quot; (as you like to say) is premature.  

The notion that the Constitutional right of self-defense, most definitely decided in this case, has boundaries and is only applicable in the home, will not hold up well under scrutiny in a case specifically addressing that issue.  Indeed teachers, students and relatives of those killed in campus slayings may argue that point quite effectively now.  They were disarmed by people like you.  Some have paid the ultimate price for self-defense having boundaries at &quot;sensitive places&quot;.  Yes, I can see this going away in time.

You are delusional in your perceptions of &quot;victory&quot; in this opinion, as you are delusional in your faith of His Messiahship.  But hey, free country.  You&#039;ll learn your lessons soon enough.  But, as I said, even slavery was legal with the court once.

But beware.. when you believe the 2A has boundaries and borders to &quot;sensitive places&quot;, you will find your 1A follows suit quickly.

BTW, as I said, &quot;cute&quot; does not become you.  You&#039;re a tad old to be precocious.  Thereby, you should be happy that, as an FA author, I do not believe... like you... that your rights stop at &quot;sensitive places&quot;.  For in this instance, I *am* your hall monitor, and I have given you the pass instead of deleting you as spam this entire thread.

However Curt&#039;s the head honcho.  If he tires of you, that&#039;s his call.  He may or may not be as patient as I with those mentally challenged by the opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the record, you leave out the disclaimer in front of all of it&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p> Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>You may wish to cut and paste from a more thorough &#8220;collective&#8221; source.</p>
<p>You must be one of Obama&#8217;s younger cyber hit squad members to know so little of how court opinions begats waves of new challenges.   Specific limitations were not scrutinized in this case, as Scalia&#8217;s plainly said with his opening disclaimer.  Thus your joy in banning Constitutional rights in  &#8220;sensitive places&#8221; for &#8220;the collective good&#8221; (as you like to say) is premature.  </p>
<p>The notion that the Constitutional right of self-defense, most definitely decided in this case, has boundaries and is only applicable in the home, will not hold up well under scrutiny in a case specifically addressing that issue.  Indeed teachers, students and relatives of those killed in campus slayings may argue that point quite effectively now.  They were disarmed by people like you.  Some have paid the ultimate price for self-defense having boundaries at &#8220;sensitive places&#8221;.  Yes, I can see this going away in time.</p>
<p>You are delusional in your perceptions of &#8220;victory&#8221; in this opinion, as you are delusional in your faith of His Messiahship.  But hey, free country.  You&#8217;ll learn your lessons soon enough.  But, as I said, even slavery was legal with the court once.</p>
<p>But beware.. when you believe the 2A has boundaries and borders to &#8220;sensitive places&#8221;, you will find your 1A follows suit quickly.</p>
<p>BTW, as I said, &#8220;cute&#8221; does not become you.  You&#8217;re a tad old to be precocious.  Thereby, you should be happy that, as an FA author, I do not believe&#8230; like you&#8230; that your rights stop at &#8220;sensitive places&#8221;.  For in this instance, I *am* your hall monitor, and I have given you the pass instead of deleting you as spam this entire thread.</p>
<p>However Curt&#8217;s the head honcho.  If he tires of you, that&#8217;s his call.  He may or may not be as patient as I with those mentally challenged by the opinion.</p>
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