Obama Pulls Out The Race Card

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Obama playing the victim card once again:

“It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy,” Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. “We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid.

“They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?”

Yes, we will definitely make your inexperience an issue. As well as your bad judgement, your cluelessness on foreign policy, your tendency to play politics as usual, and your Marxist views on how to run this country. But not one Republican has said he doesn’t deserve to be President based upon his skin color. While I have very little respect for Obama, this victim card crapola is beneath even him.

But not surprising. His surrogates in the MSM have been pushing this issue for awhile now and it was only a matter of time before he jumped on the victim train.

Curt served in the Marine Corps for four years and has been a law enforcement officer in Los Angeles for the last 24 years.

50 Responses to “Obama Pulls Out The Race Card”

  1. 26

    DW 5000

    Now if BHO has converted away then how is he going to be viewed by the Muslim world? I would say that would be an important thing to consider. Not only is there the overall safety issue but, considering what our world is facing right now, we need to be adult enough to consider if international relations will suffer as a result of the religious issue.

    1. He’s a krazee Christian! vs. He’s actually a Muslim!
    2. His name makes us feel weird! vs. His name is really “Barry,” which isn’t weird, and that’s the problem!
    3. He’s being endorsed by Hamas! vs. Muslims hate him because he left Islam! (To twist the argument into a mobius strip, see #1 above.)

    There’s no actual debate coming from the Right these days. There’s just a shotgun blast of memelets–many of which directly contradict one another–aimed at Obama, hoping that one will penetrate.

    This is that Obama Derangement Syndrome looks like.

  2. 27

    MataHarley

    1. He’s a krazee Christian! vs. He’s actually a Muslim!
    2. His name makes us feel weird! vs. His name is really “Barry,” which isn’t weird, and that’s the problem!
    3. He’s being endorsed by Hamas! vs. Muslims hate him because he left Islam! (To twist the argument into a mobius strip, see #1 above.)

    There’s no actual debate coming from the Right these days.

    But of course… how could I have missed it? Surely the above is representative of cogent and thoughful debate by adults over how Zawahiri and crew view apostate Muslims?

    “8: What is the usefulness of Jihad combat actions against the apostate Arab regimes, which usually target the regimes’ lackeys without severing the heads? And how do you evaluate the results of these actions, especially in Algeria, Egypt and the country of the two Sanctuaries?”

    Eighth: I talked before about the Jihadi actions in Egypt and the Arabian Peninsula, and I referred to our practical discretion at this stage, but I would like to add here three notes:

    1) The clash with the corrupt regimes must occur sooner or later if we want to set up the Muslim state and liberate the lands of Islam.

    2) The overall position is open to adjustment from one territory to another. So for example, in Algeria the brothers pair targeting of Jewish and Western interests with waging a guerilla war against the hireling government, because their circumstances make it possible for them to do that.

    3) Severing the heads isn’t the objective: rather, the objective is to remove the corrupt, apostate regime and set up the Islamic government. And the means of change differ from one territory to another.

    mmmmm, yeah. Unlike “jack Mormons”, apostate Arabs have a tough time being welcomed back into the fold sans their heads and credibility…. Depending, of course, upon which jihadists get to them first.

    BHO will be no better that the prior “great Satans”. In fact, they may detest him even more.

    But shhhhh…. don’t let the human gnats a’swarming get a whiff this may be viable debate, based on the jihadists’ own words.

    BTW, apologies to all… my “edge” is on a roll. Perhaps I should just log off for awhile…

  3. 28

    Dave Noble

    Buzz,

    So I have made assumptions about you without knowing much about you. Fair enough. Annoying, isn’t it? You have never exchanged responses with me before and you call me a smug elitist because I support Barrack Obama. They call that prejudice, the act of making unwarranted judgments about someone based on scant evidence. If a poor person with a high school education supports Barrack Obama are they elitist? Are all Obama supporters elitists?

    Maybe I don’t know you. So let’s try a test.

    Are Americans who oppose the war unpatriotic?

    Because someone is a Democrat are they likely to be anti-American?

    Are Obama supporters Marxists?

    Is Obama a Marxist?

    Is Obama unpatriotic?

    If I have you wrong, my friend, I apologize.

    Re: Insults. This site is filthy with them. I am very careful with my tone. I have never called anyone a racist. I suggested to Aye Chi that assuming that one black man speaks for black people is racist. That does not mean Aye Chi is racist. Here’s an example – the Don Imus comment that got him thrown off the air was a racist comment, as was an earlier comment in which he referred to Gwen Ifill as a cleaning lady. That’s like referring to a black man as a shoeshine boy. Those remarks are patently racist. However, I personally like Don Imus and I do not believe he is a racist. Though a smart man, he just doesn’t always think before he opens his mouth.

    I challenge you to find one of my posts in which I even used the word paranoid. I don’t believe I ever have. If I am wrong I will stand corrected.

    Aye Chi and I have enjoyed some reasoned debate as well as other exchanges that he aptly calls “jousts.” The Rubber Man was part of the latter.

  4. 29

    Dave Noble

    Mata,

    The issue isn’t how Obama will be viewed by the jihadists. They are beyond the reach of reason. The issue is whether he will be a welcome face to the other 1.3 billion Muslims in the world.

  5. 30

    Buzz

    So I have made assumptions about you without knowing much about you. Fair enough. Annoying, isn’t it? You have never exchanged responses with me before and you call me a smug elitist because I support Barrack Obama. They call that prejudice, the act of making unwarranted judgments about someone based on scant evidence. If a poor person with a high school education supports Barrack Obama are they elitist? Are all Obama supporters elitists?

    Go back and read why I called you an elitist. Here’s a hint, it wasn’t for support of Barack Hussein Obama.

    Are Americans who oppose the war unpatriotic?

    Some of them are.

    Because someone is a Democrat are they likely to be anti-American?

    Some of them are.

    Are Obama supporters Marxists?

    Some of them definitely are. They’re not hanging Che’ posters in his campaign offices because they think he looks nice.

    Is Obama a Marxist?

    Yes he is.

    Is Obama unpatriotic?

    His wife is. His pastor is. I think Obama wants to consider himself a citizen of the world first. And there’s a quote by Teddy Roosevelt about people like that. He pays lip service to patriotism.

    Re: Insults. This site is filthy with them. I am very careful with my tone.

    Yes you are very good at trying to make your insults come off as non-insulting as possible so when someone calls you on your shit you can claim a high ground.

    I challenge you to find one of my posts in which I even used the word paranoid. I don’t believe I ever have. If I am wrong I will stand corrected.

    Dave Noble
    7 Aye Chi, your disingenousness is breathtaking. Whoever called Richard Nixon, “Milhouse”? BTW, does Ronald Reagan have a middle name? What is it? Middle names are, after all, very important in your world. Answer in the real world? It doesn’t matter a hill of beans. Except to paranoids and racists.

    One should learn to read their own words before opening their mouth, or using cntl+f. You believe everyone taking an interest in the middle name is either paranoid or racist. You have just accused everyone who has done so. That’s an insult.

  6. Dave Noble claims this site is “filthy” with insults. Dave is a Dem, so you have to ask him what his definition of an insult is. It has become apparent that he thinks it’s an insult to disagree with him.

    Sort of like Obama. Typical elitism.

    And speaking of middle names…. Why did everyone call Romney by his middle name?

  7. 33

    Dave Noble

    Buzz,

    So, I didn’t have you wrong.

    Obama is a Marxist? I support his policies, e.g., nationalized healthcare. That would then make me a Marxist. Of course, that would also mean that virtually every First World country is Marxist.
    Now I know where we stand.

    I said I’d stand corrected if I was wrong. But you couldn’t resist the chickenshit temptation to gloat. I stand by my statement that the only people that would find the mere fact that Barrack Obama’s middle name is Hussein a problem are either paranoid or racist. You don’t fall into that category, do you?

    There are racists and paranoids in the American population. And politicians try to appeal to them. And saying that doesn’t make someone an elitist. It makes them an objective observer of American politics.

    I’m not standing on Mount Olympus, buddy. I just find that the regular use of labels and insults gets in the way of having a debate based on facts and logic. If that makes me an elitist, so be it.

    Anytime you want to actually have a debate, Buzz, I’ll be right here.

    Consider your shit called. That goes for you too, Scott. (Cute emoticon, mon ami)

  8. 34

    Dave Noble

    Mike,

    Dude, I don’t even know what Romney’s middle name is. Honestly.

    Racist bitch – I think that would be an insult. Dimwhit – yeah that, too. Filthadelphia Steve – probably. At least racist, elitist and Marxist are susceptible to definition and discussion.

  9. 35

    Aye Chihuahua

    editor

    I suggested to Aye Chi that assuming that one black man speaks for black people is racist.

    Ummm…

    It wasn’t me who made the assumption that Lt Col West was speaking for all black people.

    That was you.

  10. 36

    Buzz

    I support his policies, e.g., nationalized healthcare

    Certainly makes you a socialist. Probably not a far cry from marxism. Sorry I grew up, I no longer need or want mommy and daddy to take care of me like you do.

    I stand by my statement that the only people that would find the mere fact that Barrack Obama’s middle name is Hussein a problem are either paranoid or racist. You don’t fall into that category, do you?

    I don’t find it a problem. However elitists like you do. So you are either paranoid or a racist. Otherwise you wouldn’t be so afraid of having people say it. You consider the american people stupid. You fear that they are racist and won’t vote for your empty-suited messiah if they hear Hussein too much.

    If you don’t think it is a problem why are you so against people using it? If the media didn’t think it was a problem why are they so against using it?

    Dude, I don’t even know what Romney’s middle name is. Honestly

    Its Mitt, duh. You sure you went to college? Because I didn’t know that and was able to figure it out immediately based on the comment.

    You can insult without calling people names. Something you are able to do. I just find the direct approach much simpler, otherwise it might confuse someone that can’t figure out a joke like Mitt Romney’s middle name, or remember what they have said in a previous post and didn’t take the time to look.

    Idiotic Socialist.

  11. 38

    Dave Noble

    Buzz,

    I need neither a mommy nor a daddy. I have primary and secondary health insurance because I served my country and now I’m serving my state. It’s the other 48 million Americans I care about. Guess that makes me a socialist.

    You just can’t resist the insults can you? They’re your substitute for rational discussion.
    Hey, man, that’s cool. You have to play what you got.

    But once again, my friend, anytime you want to have a debate like big boys, instead of having a sixth grade scorn fight, I’m right here.

    Oh, and Mike, when you want to talk about something more significant and interesting than middle names, I’m here for you too. Cat-cher’s Mitt. I get it.

  12. 39

    Buzz

    It’s the other 48 million Americans I care about.

    Now its 48 million huh? How many of them can actually afford insurance but choose not to get it? Explain to me how putting the DMV and the Social Security administration in charge of health insurance is a good thing?

    I’m all for Americans without insurance being able to receive medical treatment. Good thing that they are able to do that. And hell I’m even fine with them getting health insurance too. The thing is that to do that should not require the nationalization of an entire industry.

    Btw, your health insurance given to you by your service is apparently just absolutely horrible according to your ideological brethren. Well at least it is when they wanted to make accusations about Bush not supporting our veterans. Other times its just great proof of government run healthcare.

    Guess that makes me a socialist.

    It does. You really don’t have any concept of what words mean do you?

    But once again, my friend, anytime you want to have a debate like big boys, instead of having a sixth grade scorn fight, I’m right here.

    From the man constantly throwing out insults. I call you names because its direct, and very obvious that any attempts at nuanced jabs would go over your head at the flight altitude of a 747.

  13. 40

    Dave Noble

    Buzz,

    You’re confused. As a military retiree, I am able to go to private doctors, just like any other civilian with private insurance. It’s the injured vets who are thrown on the not always tender mercies of the Veteran’s Administration. If you’re running the war on a credit card, you try to cut your costs on the backend when the damaged troops come home.

    We can discuss the healthcare system shortly.

    And hey, Sugar Ray, why don’t you try those “nuanced” jabs and stop playing cute. Stop telling me what you have and bring it. You know what would be really direct? Facts and logic.

  14. 41

    Buzz

    You’re confused. As a military retiree, I am able to go to private doctors, just like any other civilian with private insurance.

    Except after you nationalize the Health Insurance industry like you want, private doctors will cease to exist. Oh sure you can try to twist around and claim that there are still private doctors out there, but their only employer would be the state.

    Now go run along and kiss your messiah’s feet, and talk about how you support his ideas. You know, before he changes them again.

  15. 42

    Dave Noble

    He’s not my messiah, he’s the candidate, and if we’re lucky he’ll be our President.

    I also note that you didn’t attempt to defend the Veterans’ Administration.

    Now re: Nationalized healthcare. (Disclosure: the majority of this is copied from a previous post I made on this site.)

    I said “Guess that makes me a socialist.” At least on that issue.

    Currently, doctors in America effectively are employees of the health insurance companies. Your employer is the entity that pays you. For the vast majority of doctors (Beverly Hills plastic surgeons are a possible exception that comes to mind), that is the insurance companies.
    There is little dispute that we have the best healthcare system in the
    world, if you can afford it. But that’s like saying Sudan has
    excellent national nutrition, because they eat gourmet meals in the
    Presidential palace. I make no suggestion of moral equivalency between
    the United States and Sudan here, so put down that club. My analogy is logical, not moral.
    A more reasonable way to evaluate the quality of a country’s healthcare system is to look at the quality of healthcare provided to the average citizen.

    A comparison of our healthcare system with the rest of
    the First World starts with a prima facie analysis and goes on from
    there. We are the only First World nation I know of without nationalized healthcare.
    Does it seem plausible on its face that we’re the only ones who have it right and everyone else has it wrong?

    If something so massive and important was such a disaster in Canada or Great Britain, don’t you think the electorate there would do something about it? Remember, we’re talking about democracies here. As much as the term socialism is conflated with totalitarian communism, like that of the former Soviet Union, high levels of socialism exist in many of the world’s non-American democracies.

    Now let’s look at two core/elemental metrics of the quality of a nation’s healthcare system:
    Infant Mortality (IM) and Longevity

    IM (Source: CIA statistics -ttps://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html)

    The US has the 180th highest IM rate of the countries monitored. Guess who is 181? South Korea. Guess who is 182? Cuba. A newborn baby stands a better chance of living in Cuba than it does in the US.

    Which countries have lower IMs than the US? (Same source as above)

    Canada

    United Kingdom

    Germany

    Norway

    France

    Sweden

    All have nationalized healthcare.

    Longevity (M/F)
    (Source: World Health Organization
    /http://www.who.int/whosis/database/life_tables/life_tables.cfm)

    US – 75/80

    UK – 77/81

    Canada – 78/83

    People in the UK and Canada live longer than Americans, despite their purportedly abysmal healthcare systems.

  16. 43

    Buzz

    I have no reason to defend the VA.

    The US has the 180th highest IM rate of the countries monitored. Guess who is 181? South Korea. Guess who is 182? Cuba. A newborn baby stands a better chance of living in Cuba than it does in the US.

    Congratulations, you really are an idiot. I think this has even been discussed here among other places.

    First you are actually believing Cuba’s numbers. You’re a moron. Second the comparison of infant mortality in the US in comparison to the rest of the world is an apples to oranges comparison. Most of the world applies the WHO formula for infant mortality. That involves babies being born under a certain weight are not counted for infant mortality if that baby dies. Even if the baby is alive at birth. It was underweight so it doesn’t count. The US doesn’t apply that standard. If the infant is born alive and its under the thresh-hold weight and dies it gets counted. Not only will it be counted, we probably spent a lot of time and money trying to make sure it doesn’t become a statistic for infant mortality numbers. US, numbers are over-inflated when compared to the rest of the world.

    All those countries also have worse survival rates for cancer patients. They also suffer from waiting lists for surgeries. Among their other problems. I for one am not willing to trade the problems with the american healthcare industry for the problems these socialized systems have.

    Congratulations not only are you a moron for following an empty-suit, you’re a moron for believing Michael Moore propaganda.

  17. 44

    Dave Noble

    Buzz,

    Well, you do win the prize for how many times you can use the word “moron” in one post. If you keep up like this, pretty soon your whole post will just be “moron” repeated over and over again.

    Now stop sputtering “moron” for a moment, take a deep breath and look at my post again. Do you see a cite to Michael Moore anywhere? Now look at my IM statistics. They come from the CIA Factbook, not the WHO. The longevity statistics come from the WHO. Do you doubt those statistics?

    Having done that, please provide substantiation/source for your description of how the WHO calculates IM stats and how other countries report them. Further, “most of the world” is not precise enough. Let’s leave Cuba out for the sake of argument. Can you substantiate that Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, Norway, France and Sweden all report IM as you describe?

    The US has wait lists for surgery. Do you have statistics that show how they compare to countries with nationalized healthcare?

    Finally, why do you think we are the only First World country that doesn’t have a nationalized healthcare system? I’m curious.

    BTW, it doesn’t matter what healthcare system Buzz wants to live under.
    What matters is the facts.

  18. At Comment #38 Dave Noble said:

    “Oh, and Mike, when you want to talk about something more significant and interesting than middle names, I’m here for you too. Cat-cher’s Mitt. I get it.”

    So why is it that you keep bringing the subject up?

    Would you like me to go back through and count the number of times you have referenced Obama’s middle name?

    Comments #5, #7, #12, #16.

    Are you going to adopt the style typical of Obama cultists and add “Hussein” to your screen name now?

    As for your contention in comment #28 “I challenge you to find one of my posts in which I even used the word paranoid. I don’t believe I ever have.” I believe you have been corrected on that score multiple times.

    Did you ever apologize for making such a slur towards readers and commenters while at the same time wailing about how “filthy” with insults this site is?

    Do you need a time out Dave?

    Man up!

  19. 46

    MataHarley

    premium_subscriber

    Dave Noble

    INRE your comment:

    Finally, why do you think we are the only First World country that doesn’t have a nationalized healthcare system? I’m curious.

    I’m going to respond, but let’s move this section away from the “race card” thread, and start it under the more current post from Curt on the Canada’s Socialist Healthcare thread instead. It’s more relevant, and easier to keep the thread theme in place. Okay?

  20. 47

    Dave Noble

    Buzz,

    How about responding to Comment 44 – I thought that was where we were at in this discussion.
    We were talking about national healthcare. The subject changed. Did you take a short nap?

    That’s some dandy tap-dancing – Ignore the post right above me that I’m not ready to respond to – Let’s talk about middle names and insults again

    You really are afraid to have a meaningful debate.

  21. Still waiting for Dave Hussein Nobel’s apology for the “filthy” site insults and “paranoid, racist” comments…..

    Oh well… I guess if you live in Libby Land, you are exempt from the same standards you try and impose on the rest of us.

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