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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Respecting the Geneva Convention</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Respecting the Geneva Convention</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"Israeli legal sholars, lawyers and judges filed an amici brief with the Supreme Court that argued FOR the detainees."&lt;/em&gt;

Now you know why Israel is in so much trouble.  

It's "scholars" are self hating Leftists who &lt;a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?Kadima-train-to-Auschwitz-borders:-Dont-get-on-board!&#38;id=157698" rel="nofollow"&gt;pervert truth&lt;/a&gt; and hence justice, advocating for the enemy while being &lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Amona&#38;rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&#38;ie=UTF-8&#38;oe=UTF-8&#38;sourceid=ie7&#38;rlz=1I7ADBR&#38;um=1&#38;sa=N&#38;tab=iv#" rel="nofollow"&gt;contemptuous and brutal&lt;/a&gt; to their own.  And, parenthetically, siding with them and the mutual Arab enemy, which &lt;a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1159226/posts" rel="nofollow"&gt;even Ms Rice and "Conservative" Bush are doing&lt;/a&gt; (as every president and Secy of Defense has done to date), is what is destroying America and the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Israeli legal sholars, lawyers and judges filed an amici brief with the Supreme Court that argued FOR the detainees.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Now you know why Israel is in so much trouble.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;scholars&#8221; are self hating Leftists who <a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?Kadima-train-to-Auschwitz-borders:-Dont-get-on-board!&amp;id=157698" rel="nofollow">pervert truth</a> and hence justice, advocating for the enemy while being <a href="http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Amona&amp;rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;sourceid=ie7&amp;rlz=1I7ADBR&amp;um=1&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=iv#" rel="nofollow">contemptuous and brutal</a> to their own.  And, parenthetically, siding with them and the mutual Arab enemy, which <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1159226/posts" rel="nofollow">even Ms Rice and &#8220;Conservative&#8221; Bush are doing</a> (as every president and Secy of Defense has done to date), is what is destroying America and the West.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Guantanamo has been a terrible blight on the integrity of this nation,” says Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein,&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Joint Chiefs Chairman: Close Guantanamo&lt;/b&gt;
Jan 13, 5:45 PM (ET)
By ROBERT BURNS

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba (AP) - The chief of the U.S. military said Sunday he favors closing the prison here as soon as possible because he believes negative publicity worldwide about treatment of terrorist suspects has been "pretty damaging" to the image of the United States.

&lt;b&gt;"I'd like to see it shut down," Adm. Mike Mullen said&lt;/b&gt;

Mullen said, "More than anything else it's been the image - how Gitmo has become around the world, in terms of representing the United States."

&lt;b&gt;"I believe that from the standpoint of how it reflects on us that it's been pretty damaging," Mullen said,&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Guantanamo has been a terrible blight on the integrity of this nation,” says Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein,</i></p>
<p><b>Joint Chiefs Chairman: Close Guantanamo</b><br />
Jan 13, 5:45 PM (ET)<br />
By ROBERT BURNS</p>
<p>GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba (AP) - The chief of the U.S. military said Sunday he favors closing the prison here as soon as possible because he believes negative publicity worldwide about treatment of terrorist suspects has been &#8220;pretty damaging&#8221; to the image of the United States.</p>
<p><b>&#8220;I&#8217;d like to see it shut down,&#8221; Adm. Mike Mullen said</b></p>
<p>Mullen said, &#8220;More than anything else it&#8217;s been the image - how Gitmo has become around the world, in terms of representing the United States.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>&#8220;I believe that from the standpoint of how it reflects on us that it&#8217;s been pretty damaging,&#8221; Mullen said,</b></p>
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		<title>By: Steve J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israeli legal sholars, lawyers and judges filed an amici brief with the Supreme Court that argued FOR the detainees.

http://radamisto.blogspot.com/2007/08/israel-better-than-us.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli legal sholars, lawyers and judges filed an amici brief with the Supreme Court that argued FOR the detainees.</p>
<p><a href="http://radamisto.blogspot.com/2007/08/israel-better-than-us.html" rel="nofollow">http://radamisto.blogspot.com/2007/08/israel-better-than-us.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Uddercha0s</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uddercha0s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s right, Fred. Congress passed DTA and MCA. Bush merely signed them into law, as is the path for all legislation. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And for those who do not understand the concept, here is a refresher course: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ" rel="nofollow"&gt;How a bill becomes a law&lt;/a&gt; .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That’s right, Fred. Congress passed DTA and MCA. Bush merely signed them into law, as is the path for all legislation. </p></blockquote>
<p>And for those who do not understand the concept, here is a refresher course: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ" rel="nofollow">How a bill becomes a law</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tooooo funny, Aye Chi!   But you have to admit, it's admirable flag waving from Fred.  Too bad most of it comes from erroneous conjecture.

&lt;blockquote&gt;How on earth can it be so bad to merely process these SUSPECTS - that is all they are at this point (SUSPECTS) - so we only punish the convicted ones?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That due process for those deemed enemy combatants (who historically, by precedent, do not have habeas rights) was accommodated for by the passage of DTA and MCA.  What makes you think they weren't able to have due process?

&lt;blockquote&gt;We have a country of laws, and your idiot king does not make laws - that’s Congress’s job.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's right, Fred.  Congress passed DTA and MCA.  Bush merely signed them into law, as is the path for all legislation.  The Supreme's have basically spit on Congressional legislation.  And this is Bush's fault... how?

&lt;blockquote&gt;You really believe the government should be able to take an American citizen off the street and put them away forever? For no reason? With no evidence? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

None of the Gitmo detainees are American citizens.  Most, if not all, have not set foot inside territorial US.  Boumediene v Bush has absolutely nothing to do with American citizens.... located ANYWHERE.  So your point is?

You may be able to read, Fred.  But it could be your comprehension needs some brushing up.  The issue comes down to status... enemy combatant, or alien enjoying US Constitutional right...  while incarcerated.  The process was in place for determining status (CRSTs), legal recourse for challenging that status in District of Columbia circuit courts (DTA/MCA), and if found not to be an enemy combatant ...  they could embark on the route of aliens enjoying Constitutional rights.

That clarity of due process is now gone, and all bets are off on how judges will handle cases that flood into federal courts.  They'll have to make it up as they go along since there are NO precedents for this.   On what legal basis are they supposed to rule?  What feels good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tooooo funny, Aye Chi!   But you have to admit, it&#8217;s admirable flag waving from Fred.  Too bad most of it comes from erroneous conjecture.</p>
<blockquote><p>How on earth can it be so bad to merely process these SUSPECTS - that is all they are at this point (SUSPECTS) - so we only punish the convicted ones?</p></blockquote>
<p>That due process for those deemed enemy combatants (who historically, by precedent, do not have habeas rights) was accommodated for by the passage of DTA and MCA.  What makes you think they weren&#8217;t able to have due process?</p>
<blockquote><p>We have a country of laws, and your idiot king does not make laws - that’s Congress’s job.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s right, Fred.  Congress passed DTA and MCA.  Bush merely signed them into law, as is the path for all legislation.  The Supreme&#8217;s have basically spit on Congressional legislation.  And this is Bush&#8217;s fault&#8230; how?</p>
<blockquote><p>You really believe the government should be able to take an American citizen off the street and put them away forever? For no reason? With no evidence? </p></blockquote>
<p>None of the Gitmo detainees are American citizens.  Most, if not all, have not set foot inside territorial US.  Boumediene v Bush has absolutely nothing to do with American citizens&#8230;. located ANYWHERE.  So your point is?</p>
<p>You may be able to read, Fred.  But it could be your comprehension needs some brushing up.  The issue comes down to status&#8230; enemy combatant, or alien enjoying US Constitutional right&#8230;  while incarcerated.  The process was in place for determining status (CRSTs), legal recourse for challenging that status in District of Columbia circuit courts (DTA/MCA), and if found not to be an enemy combatant &#8230;  they could embark on the route of aliens enjoying Constitutional rights.</p>
<p>That clarity of due process is now gone, and all bets are off on how judges will handle cases that flood into federal courts.  They&#8217;ll have to make it up as they go along since there are NO precedents for this.   On what legal basis are they supposed to rule?  What feels good?</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With skills that would make P.T. Barnum proud, Mr. Flintstone juggles apples and oranges.</description>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Gitmo is not sovereign soil, it is rented territory. This ruling is a clear example of BDS and a liberal court in action. I doubt anything the courts do is fair any more, they have politicized the law and the court, meeting the expectations of those that said it would happen when the SC was formed. Now days the Supreme Court can be counted on the rule on anything from science to war, even though they have no experience in either. 

It’s sad that the US courts have become an adjunct to the DNC party apparatus that it has.&lt;/em&gt;

So you are so scared of the due process that you would throw away what America stands for? How on earth can it be so bad to merely process these SUSPECTS - that is all they are at this point (SUSPECTS) - so we only punish the convicted ones? It appears America is stronger, braver, and more patriotic than you will ever be. We have a country of laws, and your idiot king does not make laws - that's Congress's job. If you can find someone in your family who can read - and I highly doubt that (go home schooling!) please ask them to read our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Those documents are fo your protection too. 

You really believe the government should be able to take an American citizen off the street and put them away forever? For no reason? With no evidence? Please leave America now. She does not need you and those like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Gitmo is not sovereign soil, it is rented territory. This ruling is a clear example of BDS and a liberal court in action. I doubt anything the courts do is fair any more, they have politicized the law and the court, meeting the expectations of those that said it would happen when the SC was formed. Now days the Supreme Court can be counted on the rule on anything from science to war, even though they have no experience in either. </p>
<p>It’s sad that the US courts have become an adjunct to the DNC party apparatus that it has.</em></p>
<p>So you are so scared of the due process that you would throw away what America stands for? How on earth can it be so bad to merely process these SUSPECTS - that is all they are at this point (SUSPECTS) - so we only punish the convicted ones? It appears America is stronger, braver, and more patriotic than you will ever be. We have a country of laws, and your idiot king does not make laws - that&#8217;s Congress&#8217;s job. If you can find someone in your family who can read - and I highly doubt that (go home schooling!) please ask them to read our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Those documents are fo your protection too. </p>
<p>You really believe the government should be able to take an American citizen off the street and put them away forever? For no reason? With no evidence? Please leave America now. She does not need you and those like you.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>video commentary, followed by McCain speaking on the topic
http://video.newsmax.com/?assetId=V2494408

and some other stuff (interspersed with ads)

Thanks, AF, for that Levin tape.  His observations are all too true, and a sad commentary on America today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>video commentary, followed by McCain speaking on the topic<br />
<a href="http://video.newsmax.com/?assetId=V2494408" rel="nofollow">http://video.newsmax.com/?assetId=V2494408</a></p>
<p>and some other stuff (interspersed with ads)</p>
<p>Thanks, AF, for that Levin tape.  His observations are all too true, and a sad commentary on America today.</p>
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		<title>By: bill-tb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill-tb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gitmo is not sovereign soil, it is rented territory. This ruling is a clear example of BDS and a liberal court in action. I doubt anything the courts do is fair any more, they have politicized the law and the court, meeting the expectations of those that said it would happen when the SC was formed. Now days the Supreme Court can be counted on the rule on anything from science to war, even though they have no experience in either. 

It's sad that the US courts have become an adjunct to the DNC party apparatus that it has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gitmo is not sovereign soil, it is rented territory. This ruling is a clear example of BDS and a liberal court in action. I doubt anything the courts do is fair any more, they have politicized the law and the court, meeting the expectations of those that said it would happen when the SC was formed. Now days the Supreme Court can be counted on the rule on anything from science to war, even though they have no experience in either. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad that the US courts have become an adjunct to the DNC party apparatus that it has.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a different "Doug"  email address and IP are different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a different &#8220;Doug&#8221;  email address and IP are different.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no apology needed, AC.  I should have made it clearer.

regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no apology needed, AC.  I should have made it clearer.</p>
<p>regards</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sarcasm, AC&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I should have been able to recognize that.

Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sarcasm, AC</p></blockquote>
<p>I should have been able to recognize that.</p>
<p>Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aye Chihuahua

&lt;EM&gt;I wouldn’t want any of them to be harmed, majority or dissent."&lt;/EM&gt;

Sarcasm, AC.  I don't want them dead either.  After all, the punishment should fit the crime, and they are just guilty of being incredibly stupid.  What that should be punished with, I'm not quite sure, but death is a bit harsh for that, especially since it's probably an "honest" foolish mistake.

I wouldn't mind seeing them soil their pants in fear of the cutthroats they've enabled, though, if it would change their minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aye Chihuahua</p>
<p><em>I wouldn’t want any of them to be harmed, majority or dissent.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Sarcasm, AC.  I don&#8217;t want them dead either.  After all, the punishment should fit the crime, and they are just guilty of being incredibly stupid.  What that should be punished with, I&#8217;m not quite sure, but death is a bit harsh for that, especially since it&#8217;s probably an &#8220;honest&#8221; foolish mistake.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing them soil their pants in fear of the cutthroats they&#8217;ve enabled, though, if it would change their minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata,

You may very well be correct.

Perhaps I was a bit hasty.



yonason,

I wouldn't want any of them to be harmed, majority or dissent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mata,</p>
<p>You may very well be correct.</p>
<p>Perhaps I was a bit hasty.</p>
<p>yonason,</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want any of them to be harmed, majority or dissent.</p>
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