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		<title>By: Thomas Leath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Leath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Supreme Court&#039;s decision on habeas corpus was a sad day in American history. We did not give the nazis this right nor should we allow radical islamist who want us dead this right either. There is no grey matter in this issue. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Supreme Court&#8217;s decision on habeas corpus was a sad day in American history. We did not give the nazis this right nor should we allow radical islamist who want us dead this right either. There is no grey matter in this issue. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12

Should McCain get into office, he will turn his back on conservatives faster than you could ever imagine.   If you&#039;re hoping he&#039;s going to turn all of this around, particularly with the way he feels about POW&#039;s, torture, illegal immigrants, etc., you&#039;re going to be sadly mistaken.

This country is so far beyond any political solution to its problems right now it&#039;s frightful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12</p>
<p>Should McCain get into office, he will turn his back on conservatives faster than you could ever imagine.   If you&#8217;re hoping he&#8217;s going to turn all of this around, particularly with the way he feels about POW&#8217;s, torture, illegal immigrants, etc., you&#8217;re going to be sadly mistaken.</p>
<p>This country is so far beyond any political solution to its problems right now it&#8217;s frightful.</p>
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		<title>By: Skye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It was 5-4, and serious dissention in judicial interpretations.&lt;/i&gt;

Now it is more important to elect McCain. All we need is two additional seats on SCOTUS and this sham of ruling can be overturned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It was 5-4, and serious dissention in judicial interpretations.</i></p>
<p>Now it is more important to elect McCain. All we need is two additional seats on SCOTUS and this sham of ruling can be overturned.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;P.S. Fred: You marked yourself as a fool with your “King Bush” remark.&quot;

Really, Mike?  And what does that make everyone on this site who refers to Senator Hussein, Obamessiah, Obambi, Obamarama, and Obamalamadingdong (I made the last one up)? I think Steve has the double standard call right.

BTW, when the SCOTUS finds an executive order or a Congressional law unconstitutional it is not usurping power, it is exercising its responsibility (and concommitant power) to check overreaching on the part of the Executive and Legislative branches.  Without that check, we would potentially be at the mercy of mob rule by the Congress or despotism by the President.
You may disagree with the Court&#039;s decision, but the system is operating as so brilliantly planned by the Founding Fathers.  Also I note that three of the five justices in the majority were appointed by Republican presidents.  Guess you need a more foolproof litmus test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;P.S. Fred: You marked yourself as a fool with your “King Bush” remark.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really, Mike?  And what does that make everyone on this site who refers to Senator Hussein, Obamessiah, Obambi, Obamarama, and Obamalamadingdong (I made the last one up)? I think Steve has the double standard call right.</p>
<p>BTW, when the SCOTUS finds an executive order or a Congressional law unconstitutional it is not usurping power, it is exercising its responsibility (and concommitant power) to check overreaching on the part of the Executive and Legislative branches.  Without that check, we would potentially be at the mercy of mob rule by the Congress or despotism by the President.<br />
You may disagree with the Court&#8217;s decision, but the system is operating as so brilliantly planned by the Founding Fathers.  Also I note that three of the five justices in the majority were appointed by Republican presidents.  Guess you need a more foolproof litmus test.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Constitution is what it is - the law of the land. Your king Bush decided he was the law of the land; and the SCOTUS shot him (and you) down.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are under the mis&#039;impression that this was a 9-0 call, Fred. It was 5-4, and serious dissention in judicial interpretations.  So that &quot;law&quot; ain&#039;t so clear cut as you think.

BTW, laws are changed in this country all the time for various reasons.  Now, with this decision, we&#039;ll have to see if both the DTA and MCA are even in effect as Constitutional.  The Supremes have taken a clear procedural path, as laid out by Congress in both those acts, and turned the due process to pure mud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Constitution is what it is &#8211; the law of the land. Your king Bush decided he was the law of the land; and the SCOTUS shot him (and you) down.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are under the mis&#8217;impression that this was a 9-0 call, Fred. It was 5-4, and serious dissention in judicial interpretations.  So that &#8220;law&#8221; ain&#8217;t so clear cut as you think.</p>
<p>BTW, laws are changed in this country all the time for various reasons.  Now, with this decision, we&#8217;ll have to see if both the DTA and MCA are even in effect as Constitutional.  The Supremes have taken a clear procedural path, as laid out by Congress in both those acts, and turned the due process to pure mud.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Fred’s Mommy apparently didn’t teach him how to treat a lady.&quot;

Ay...

Considering how freely you toss around personal insults, isn&#039;t this a case of the pot calling.....

But then, when you toss out insults, it&#039;s DIFFERENT, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Fred’s Mommy apparently didn’t teach him how to treat a lady.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ay&#8230;</p>
<p>Considering how freely you toss around personal insults, isn&#8217;t this a case of the pot calling&#8230;..</p>
<p>But then, when you toss out insults, it&#8217;s DIFFERENT, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Romano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred,

What&#039;s this obsession with meds, professional help etc?  Could it be complete projection on your part?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred,</p>
<p>What&#8217;s this obsession with meds, professional help etc?  Could it be complete projection on your part?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was not good, it might in the end result in US being taken from the list of nations that comitts warcrimes and torture... How could the nation and its morals survive that? 
It will certainly lower the US reputation in the rest of the world if they would have to start to follow these rules!

Next thing You will probably hear leftwing extremists starting to demand that all the &quot;black prisons&quot; the US have warpri... in overseas (eh, I forgot... &quot;unlawfull combatants&quot; is the newspeach for those prisons, so we dont misstake them for, say blackwater soldiers who all is in it for their patriotism), should also be forced to obey pesky things like human rights and anti-torture laws....

The end of civilisation (or neocons, pretty much the same thing) is near!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was not good, it might in the end result in US being taken from the list of nations that comitts warcrimes and torture&#8230; How could the nation and its morals survive that?<br />
It will certainly lower the US reputation in the rest of the world if they would have to start to follow these rules!</p>
<p>Next thing You will probably hear leftwing extremists starting to demand that all the &#8220;black prisons&#8221; the US have warpri&#8230; in overseas (eh, I forgot&#8230; &#8220;unlawfull combatants&#8221; is the newspeach for those prisons, so we dont misstake them for, say blackwater soldiers who all is in it for their patriotism), should also be forced to obey pesky things like human rights and anti-torture laws&#8230;.</p>
<p>The end of civilisation (or neocons, pretty much the same thing) is near!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sad decision by the court overturns it&#039;s earlier decision to ask that the legislative and executive branch work out agreement on how these unlawful combatants should be held. It places the court above both of the political branches, which is the ultimate usurpation of power in violation of every principle of American democracy handed down to us by the founders. 

P.S. Fred: You marked yourself as a fool with your &quot;King Bush&quot; remark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sad decision by the court overturns it&#8217;s earlier decision to ask that the legislative and executive branch work out agreement on how these unlawful combatants should be held. It places the court above both of the political branches, which is the ultimate usurpation of power in violation of every principle of American democracy handed down to us by the founders. </p>
<p>P.S. Fred: You marked yourself as a fool with your &#8220;King Bush&#8221; remark.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred&#039;s Mommy apparently didn&#039;t teach him how to treat a lady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred&#8217;s Mommy apparently didn&#8217;t teach him how to treat a lady.</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred your name calling doesn&#039;t dignify an answer. Grow up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred your name calling doesn&#8217;t dignify an answer. Grow up!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times,” I THINK WHAT KENNEDY MEANS is that our Constitution needs to consider international pressure to be acceptable to the world. THIS MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL! I think our leaders have a personality disorder, insecurity. Oh dear they don’t like us, booo hoooooo. Sounds like a teenager whining, I don’t have any friends. Why not just stand up and say this is who we are, take a hike if you don’t like it. Is there never a line in the sand for these people.&lt;/em&gt;

Please seek professional help now. You think you know what Kennedy means? You think? Sir, you do not think. The Constitution is what it is - the law of the land. Your king Bush decided he was the law of the land; and the SCOTUS shot him (and you) down. We live in a democracy where you cannot change the law because you are scared silly. Please be brave - your children are watching you. They don&#039;t want a pussy for a parent. Find your courage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times,” I THINK WHAT KENNEDY MEANS is that our Constitution needs to consider international pressure to be acceptable to the world. THIS MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL! I think our leaders have a personality disorder, insecurity. Oh dear they don’t like us, booo hoooooo. Sounds like a teenager whining, I don’t have any friends. Why not just stand up and say this is who we are, take a hike if you don’t like it. Is there never a line in the sand for these people.</em></p>
<p>Please seek professional help now. You think you know what Kennedy means? You think? Sir, you do not think. The Constitution is what it is &#8211; the law of the land. Your king Bush decided he was the law of the land; and the SCOTUS shot him (and you) down. We live in a democracy where you cannot change the law because you are scared silly. Please be brave &#8211; your children are watching you. They don&#8217;t want a pussy for a parent. Find your courage.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard one of them talking the other day about a decent respect for the opinions of mankind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard one of them talking the other day about a decent respect for the opinions of mankind.</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times,” I THINK WHAT KENNEDY MEANS is that our Constitution needs to consider international pressure to be acceptable to the world. THIS MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL! I think our leaders have a personality disorder, insecurity. Oh dear they don&#039;t like us, booo hoooooo. Sounds like a   teenager whining, I don&#039;t have any friends. Why not just stand up and say this is who we are, take a hike if you don&#039;t like it. Is there never a line in the sand for these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times,” I THINK WHAT KENNEDY MEANS is that our Constitution needs to consider international pressure to be acceptable to the world. THIS MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL! I think our leaders have a personality disorder, insecurity. Oh dear they don&#8217;t like us, booo hoooooo. Sounds like a   teenager whining, I don&#8217;t have any friends. Why not just stand up and say this is who we are, take a hike if you don&#8217;t like it. Is there never a line in the sand for these people.</p>
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