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	<title>Comments on: The Michelle Obama Whitey Tape Update: New Anti-Obama Site Owner Says He Heard Tape</title>
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		<title>By: kcdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>kcdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK... here we are almost a year later... where's the tape, the dvd, the transcript, a deposition, ANYTHING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

JFC, no wonder the Republicans took a huge beating this November. The American People have finally realized that lies, although comforting, are still just lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230; here we are almost a year later&#8230; where&#8217;s the tape, the dvd, the transcript, a deposition, ANYTHING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?</p>
<p>JFC, no wonder the Republicans took a huge beating this November. The American People have finally realized that lies, although comforting, are still just lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I have no trouble believing that Michelle Obama would, in fact, make public comments like that, here's what makes me doubt that the tape exists:

The tape was supposedly made in 2004 and in it, one of the things that Michelle Obama is supposed to have said in it is "Why'd he let New Orleans drown?", referring to Hurrican Katrina. 

Well, Hurricane Katrina didn't hit New Orleans until the summer of 2005. Either Michelle Obama is psychic, or the story is BS. Now maybe she said the other stuff and really didn't say "Why'd he let New Orleans drown." Or maybe the event at which she was taped took place in 2005 and not 2004.

But it smells to me like a Clinton smear job. The person who started the rumor, Larry Johnson, is a known Clintonite, and the web site from which the above comments were lifted is, after all, a pro-Clinton, anti-Obama website.  

I think it's no better than 50/50 that this tape exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have no trouble believing that Michelle Obama would, in fact, make public comments like that, here&#8217;s what makes me doubt that the tape exists:</p>
<p>The tape was supposedly made in 2004 and in it, one of the things that Michelle Obama is supposed to have said in it is &#8220;Why&#8217;d he let New Orleans drown?&#8221;, referring to Hurrican Katrina. </p>
<p>Well, Hurricane Katrina didn&#8217;t hit New Orleans until the summer of 2005. Either Michelle Obama is psychic, or the story is BS. Now maybe she said the other stuff and really didn&#8217;t say &#8220;Why&#8217;d he let New Orleans drown.&#8221; Or maybe the event at which she was taped took place in 2005 and not 2004.</p>
<p>But it smells to me like a Clinton smear job. The person who started the rumor, Larry Johnson, is a known Clintonite, and the web site from which the above comments were lifted is, after all, a pro-Clinton, anti-Obama website.  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s no better than 50/50 that this tape exists.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nice stream of hate and venom there.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your ignorant bile filled post usually are Steve, but do not pat yourself on the back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nice stream of hate and venom there.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your ignorant bile filled post usually are Steve, but do not pat yourself on the back.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/08/the-michelle-obama-whitey-tape-update-new-anti-obama-site-owner-says-he-heard-tape/comment-page-1/#comment-84437</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philly Steve is becoming a Johnny One Note:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philly Steve is becoming a Johnny One Note:<br />
<img src="http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/mikesamerica/mikesamerica2/captioner5035135.jpg"/></p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice stream of hate and venom there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice stream of hate and venom there.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Steve knows is his hard-wired hate for what he "thinks" "conservatives" are.  All he has is his tired shouting points fed to him by his masters.  Projectionism, copy/paste "conservatives this/that" and "free consercative pass" are religious hymns to him.  A religion of marxist brainwashed bile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Steve knows is his hard-wired hate for what he &#8220;thinks&#8221; &#8220;conservatives&#8221; are.  All he has is his tired shouting points fed to him by his masters.  Projectionism, copy/paste &#8220;conservatives this/that&#8221; and &#8220;free consercative pass&#8221; are religious hymns to him.  A religion of marxist brainwashed bile.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point about the person to whom this point is attributed.  Then he's a jerk too and speaking as a Democrat myself, Republicans are welcome to him, and all his smears.  He will feel well at homein the party of Lee Atwater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about the person to whom this point is attributed.  Then he&#8217;s a jerk too and speaking as a Democrat myself, Republicans are welcome to him, and all his smears.  He will feel well at homein the party of Lee Atwater.</p>
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		<title>By: Uddercha0s</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uddercha0s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just as the Washington Times and FoxNews tried to do a year ago with the “Madrassa” story. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

We've already beaten the Madrassa issue to death in another thread.  How many NY Times articles and reporters do you wish to talk about? How about Obama Campaign Headquarters, MSNBC? Care to mention that unemployed news anchor, Dan Rather? Does Jack Kelley sound familiar? Jayson Blair?

Maybe you might try to acknowledge that there is &lt;a href="newsbusters.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;liberal media bias&lt;/a&gt; and false information.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Conservative give any credence to a “quote” from John McCain that was substantiated by an unknown source, unnamed, but “trusted” by another poster, known to hate John McCain?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pot, meet Kettle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just as the Washington Times and FoxNews tried to do a year ago with the “Madrassa” story. </p></blockquote>
<p>We&#8217;ve already beaten the Madrassa issue to death in another thread.  How many NY Times articles and reporters do you wish to talk about? How about Obama Campaign Headquarters, MSNBC? Care to mention that unemployed news anchor, Dan Rather? Does Jack Kelley sound familiar? Jayson Blair?</p>
<p>Maybe you might try to acknowledge that there is <a href="newsbusters.org" rel="nofollow">liberal media bias</a> and false information.</p>
<blockquote><p>Conservative give any credence to a “quote” from John McCain that was substantiated by an unknown source, unnamed, but “trusted” by another poster, known to hate John McCain?</p></blockquote>
<p>Pot, meet Kettle.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only problem with your explanation is, Phillie Steve, da guy who's "making up a lie", as you say, is a Hillary liberal.... aka Larry Johnson at No Quarter.  Who says that both a DNC and GOP say they have heard it.

ooops... bad time to abandon your Bush hatred for general, all purpose, Conservative hatred, eh?   :0)

I don't know if there's a tape.  I don't care if there's a tape.  I don't care if it surfaces or not.  I have seen BHO and Michelle quite clearly as the Marxists and affirmative action advocates they are.  That's quite 'nuff for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with your explanation is, Phillie Steve, da guy who&#8217;s &#8220;making up a lie&#8221;, as you say, is a Hillary liberal&#8230;. aka Larry Johnson at No Quarter.  Who says that both a DNC and GOP say they have heard it.</p>
<p>ooops&#8230; bad time to abandon your Bush hatred for general, all purpose, Conservative hatred, eh?   :0)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s a tape.  I don&#8217;t care if there&#8217;s a tape.  I don&#8217;t care if it surfaces or not.  I have seen BHO and Michelle quite clearly as the Marxists and affirmative action advocates they are.  That&#8217;s quite &#8217;nuff for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Leftist Bait"?

As usual, Conservatives must ascribe all evil to Liberals, toeing the line that all Conservatives are all perfect all the time.

Note how well it is working with Mike's America right now.

How about another explanation?  This is just one Conservative making up a lie to spread about and rev up emotional hatred of Barak Obama, based on false information.  Just as the Washington Times and FoxNews tried to do a year ago with the "Madrassa" story.  Liberals were not behind that lie, Conservatives were.

And they likely are now, even if a fellow Conservative is not permitted to acknowledge the possibility of it even happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Leftist Bait&#8221;?</p>
<p>As usual, Conservatives must ascribe all evil to Liberals, toeing the line that all Conservatives are all perfect all the time.</p>
<p>Note how well it is working with Mike&#8217;s America right now.</p>
<p>How about another explanation?  This is just one Conservative making up a lie to spread about and rev up emotional hatred of Barak Obama, based on false information.  Just as the Washington Times and FoxNews tried to do a year ago with the &#8220;Madrassa&#8221; story.  Liberals were not behind that lie, Conservatives were.</p>
<p>And they likely are now, even if a fellow Conservative is not permitted to acknowledge the possibility of it even happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V.O.R. The specifics do sound a bit confused, but I have heard that Michelle Obama was at an event where she was a panelist, not a speaker, and could have made these remarks at that time. I hope we get to the bottom of this mystery in about 140 days to be precise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V.O.R. The specifics do sound a bit confused, but I have heard that Michelle Obama was at an event where she was a panelist, not a speaker, and could have made these remarks at that time. I hope we get to the bottom of this mystery in about 140 days to be precise.</p>
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		<title>By: Voice of Reason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voice of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was no Rainbow-PUSH conference at Trinity Church in 2004. There was a conference at the Sheraton Hotel in Chicago but Michelle Obama was not a speaker there (nor was Louis Farakhan) and there was no DVD made. The tape is a fiction and this "Ed" person sounds disordered to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no Rainbow-PUSH conference at Trinity Church in 2004. There was a conference at the Sheraton Hotel in Chicago but Michelle Obama was not a speaker there (nor was Louis Farakhan) and there was no DVD made. The tape is a fiction and this &#8220;Ed&#8221; person sounds disordered to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps. However, with respect to Hillary’s campaign prior to when she suspended it, wouldn’t you think she or someone on the left who favored her would’ve brought out the most destructive scandal they hand in their hand to end Obama’s run before she suspended it with a mountain of debt?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hillary suspended her campaign but did not concede or withdraw, thus she can keep control of her pledged delegates, continue to raise funds, and retire campaign debt.

The Clintons are a very shrewd bunch and she is playing her cards very wisely.

There is an 800lb gorilla looming over this election season which hasn't been present in past Presidential elections.  The race issue.

They have to be extremely cautious that they have plausible deniability regarding any scandal that comes out, especially if it is racial.  

Any valid criticism of Obie can and will be twisted into a racist attack.  We've seen some of that already.  We see it here on this blog periodically.  

Everything, regardless of its' nature, can and will be twisted into something that it is not.  Hillary cannot afford to get caught up in a racial scandal.  

She would lose the support that she does have and would ruin her chances to return from the dead in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Perhaps. However, with respect to Hillary’s campaign prior to when she suspended it, wouldn’t you think she or someone on the left who favored her would’ve brought out the most destructive scandal they hand in their hand to end Obama’s run before she suspended it with a mountain of debt?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hillary suspended her campaign but did not concede or withdraw, thus she can keep control of her pledged delegates, continue to raise funds, and retire campaign debt.</p>
<p>The Clintons are a very shrewd bunch and she is playing her cards very wisely.</p>
<p>There is an 800lb gorilla looming over this election season which hasn&#8217;t been present in past Presidential elections.  The race issue.</p>
<p>They have to be extremely cautious that they have plausible deniability regarding any scandal that comes out, especially if it is racial.  </p>
<p>Any valid criticism of Obie can and will be twisted into a racist attack.  We&#8217;ve seen some of that already.  We see it here on this blog periodically.  </p>
<p>Everything, regardless of its&#8217; nature, can and will be twisted into something that it is not.  Hillary cannot afford to get caught up in a racial scandal.  </p>
<p>She would lose the support that she does have and would ruin her chances to return from the dead in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: WryToast</title>
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		<dc:creator>WryToast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye Chihuahua,


&lt;blockquote&gt;No, it’s more likely it will be saved for closer to, or even during, the convention if held by someone on the left. &lt;/blockquote&gt;


Perhaps.  However, with respect to Hillary's campaign prior to when she suspended it, wouldn't you think she or someone on the left who favored her would've brought out the most destructive scandal they hand in their hand to end Obama's run before she suspended it with a mountain of debt?  

I find the theories interesting.  I know I have plenty of my own.  But what many of them have in common is their deceptive, cutthroat nature.  This is what we've become accustom to, but it is also what many voters--especially the new ones--will chose to condemn.   Therefore, I believe the person who can come off as not being what we typically expect from politicians this year will be our next president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye Chihuahua,</p>
<blockquote><p>No, it’s more likely it will be saved for closer to, or even during, the convention if held by someone on the left. </p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps.  However, with respect to Hillary&#8217;s campaign prior to when she suspended it, wouldn&#8217;t you think she or someone on the left who favored her would&#8217;ve brought out the most destructive scandal they hand in their hand to end Obama&#8217;s run before she suspended it with a mountain of debt?  </p>
<p>I find the theories interesting.  I know I have plenty of my own.  But what many of them have in common is their deceptive, cutthroat nature.  This is what we&#8217;ve become accustom to, but it is also what many voters&#8211;especially the new ones&#8211;will chose to condemn.   Therefore, I believe the person who can come off as not being what we typically expect from politicians this year will be our next president.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But if there were such a scandal, don’t you think it would’ve been found by now?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it's more likely it will be saved for closer to, or even during, the convention if held by someone on the left.

If held by the right, it will be held as the classic October surprise.

Of course, if Hillary holds a surprise it is very possible that she will hold it beyond the convention and release it in October, thus torpedoing Obie while not having her fingerprints on it.

Personally, I find enough in Obie's positions, policies, and questionable associations to disqualify him from being worthy to be President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But if there were such a scandal, don’t you think it would’ve been found by now?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it&#8217;s more likely it will be saved for closer to, or even during, the convention if held by someone on the left.</p>
<p>If held by the right, it will be held as the classic October surprise.</p>
<p>Of course, if Hillary holds a surprise it is very possible that she will hold it beyond the convention and release it in October, thus torpedoing Obie while not having her fingerprints on it.</p>
<p>Personally, I find enough in Obie&#8217;s positions, policies, and questionable associations to disqualify him from being worthy to be President.</p>
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