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	<title>Comments on: Hillary Out&#8230;.Not, Obama Wants To &#8220;Remake&#8221; The US of A, &amp; McCain Bashes Bush&#8230;.What A Day In Politics</title>
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		<title>By: Errol Smythe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Errol Smythe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A  joint ticket  with Barak Obama and Hilary Clinton  may not be a bad idea after all. But it is up to the Obama camp and Barak Obama to make the final decision. It is good to have an open mind and examine all options and choose what is best for the Democratic Party and what is good for the country. It  may be a tough call to make. But then again it is just a everyday routine decision that  one may expect of anyone aspiring  for the high office of the President of  the United States of America, because to be the President of the United States of America you have to be a great person loved and accepted by  all Americans.
The great  President John F  Kennedy said “..ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country...”
Another great President Abraham Lincoln said “...united we stand,divided we fall...” and  Ronald Reagan, a third great President  said “...America is a shining beacon of democracy......”
Like many that  originally considered that it wouldn&#039;t work, because of the fierce exchange of words between the two camps, a joint ticket sounded out of the question. But then my opinion don&#039;t matter. It don&#039;t matter because it is not my call, it is the call of the Obama Camp and Barak Obama. 
On reflection it will be good to heal the party. It will demonstrate that in  primary elections , individuals  may have different opinions but still have the grace to unite around a common purpose for the good of the people. In Election 2008  the  Democratic Party people have spoken in the primaries by voting in their millions that they have a high opinion of both Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama .
Is a joint ticket a U-turn to rhetoric  that would prefer   the Obama Camp administration totally independent of the Clinton Camp and the Clinton Camp totally independent of the Obama Camp?Yes! An emphatic yes! Why? Because both Camps have excellent election and administration teams and best of all they belong to the same party. It will be good synergy for the party for the Obama Camp and the Clinton Camp to progress to the next level.
The media has been kind to both candidates . That is the maturity of American politics. Freedom of the press and freedom of speech,transparency and accountability.
Together Barak Obama  and Hillary Clinton  with John Edwards will make a formidable team. It is common knowledge that convention states that the winning candidate gets to choose his running mate. Public opinion and street wise talk on the streets suggests that it will be gracious for Barak to choose Hillary as a running mate.
In the past  at the height of the primaries some negative press reports suggested that a joint ticket was not a good idea. I  am guilty of thinking that it was not a good idea. But I would like to go on record for whatever it is worth and say that I salute  Hillary Clinton for her tenacity, her courage,her patriotism, her great zeal and love for America, her love and commitment to Israel and her dedication to the high call of duty. Hillary as VP  will bring a wealth of experience and advice for the Obama Administration.
To date  Hillary&#039;s  has not publicly conceded. No one knows what is actually being said by both party camp loyals about the future direction   of  the party behind closed doors and what is being whispered  by party camp die hards around coffee tables in restaurants , hastily convened crisis meetings etc. Just kidding!
Word on the street is that the party has to have a united front. To do this it may be recommended by persons close to Barak Obama that since Hillary&#039;s name has been put forward for the VP slot it is respectfully suggested that he appoint her as his VP running mate and have John Edwards as Secretary of State.
The final decision will be up to Barak Obama who has the interests of uniting and  healing the wounds of  division of the Democratic party. That is an urgent priority and the “...urgent need of  now..” and the “...fierce urgency of the hour...”.
It is hoped that this contentious hurdle of appointments of  Hillary and John Edwards  can unite and galvanize the party to be a political force to reckon worth.
No one doubts the patriotism , maturity and graciousness of Barak , Hillary and John who have the Democratic Party interest at heart and will do whatever it takes to unite the party around a common purpose with a view of  November 2008  .  Errol Smythe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A  joint ticket  with Barak Obama and Hilary Clinton  may not be a bad idea after all. But it is up to the Obama camp and Barak Obama to make the final decision. It is good to have an open mind and examine all options and choose what is best for the Democratic Party and what is good for the country. It  may be a tough call to make. But then again it is just a everyday routine decision that  one may expect of anyone aspiring  for the high office of the President of  the United States of America, because to be the President of the United States of America you have to be a great person loved and accepted by  all Americans.<br />
The great  President John F  Kennedy said “..ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country&#8230;”<br />
Another great President Abraham Lincoln said “&#8230;united we stand,divided we fall&#8230;” and  Ronald Reagan, a third great President  said “&#8230;America is a shining beacon of democracy&#8230;&#8230;”<br />
Like many that  originally considered that it wouldn&#8217;t work, because of the fierce exchange of words between the two camps, a joint ticket sounded out of the question. But then my opinion don&#8217;t matter. It don&#8217;t matter because it is not my call, it is the call of the Obama Camp and Barak Obama.<br />
On reflection it will be good to heal the party. It will demonstrate that in  primary elections , individuals  may have different opinions but still have the grace to unite around a common purpose for the good of the people. In Election 2008  the  Democratic Party people have spoken in the primaries by voting in their millions that they have a high opinion of both Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama .<br />
Is a joint ticket a U-turn to rhetoric  that would prefer   the Obama Camp administration totally independent of the Clinton Camp and the Clinton Camp totally independent of the Obama Camp?Yes! An emphatic yes! Why? Because both Camps have excellent election and administration teams and best of all they belong to the same party. It will be good synergy for the party for the Obama Camp and the Clinton Camp to progress to the next level.<br />
The media has been kind to both candidates . That is the maturity of American politics. Freedom of the press and freedom of speech,transparency and accountability.<br />
Together Barak Obama  and Hillary Clinton  with John Edwards will make a formidable team. It is common knowledge that convention states that the winning candidate gets to choose his running mate. Public opinion and street wise talk on the streets suggests that it will be gracious for Barak to choose Hillary as a running mate.<br />
In the past  at the height of the primaries some negative press reports suggested that a joint ticket was not a good idea. I  am guilty of thinking that it was not a good idea. But I would like to go on record for whatever it is worth and say that I salute  Hillary Clinton for her tenacity, her courage,her patriotism, her great zeal and love for America, her love and commitment to Israel and her dedication to the high call of duty. Hillary as VP  will bring a wealth of experience and advice for the Obama Administration.<br />
To date  Hillary&#8217;s  has not publicly conceded. No one knows what is actually being said by both party camp loyals about the future direction   of  the party behind closed doors and what is being whispered  by party camp die hards around coffee tables in restaurants , hastily convened crisis meetings etc. Just kidding!<br />
Word on the street is that the party has to have a united front. To do this it may be recommended by persons close to Barak Obama that since Hillary&#8217;s name has been put forward for the VP slot it is respectfully suggested that he appoint her as his VP running mate and have John Edwards as Secretary of State.<br />
The final decision will be up to Barak Obama who has the interests of uniting and  healing the wounds of  division of the Democratic party. That is an urgent priority and the “&#8230;urgent need of  now..” and the “&#8230;fierce urgency of the hour&#8230;”.<br />
It is hoped that this contentious hurdle of appointments of  Hillary and John Edwards  can unite and galvanize the party to be a political force to reckon worth.<br />
No one doubts the patriotism , maturity and graciousness of Barak , Hillary and John who have the Democratic Party interest at heart and will do whatever it takes to unite the party around a common purpose with a view of  November 2008  .  Errol Smythe.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that&#039;s right: now &#039;presto&#039; Obama has opened all his fundraisers to the press while McCain himself said in May all fundraisers will remain closed to the media:

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While he is typically more accessible to the press than his rivals on the campaign trail, Sen. McCain said Wednesday that his fundraisers will remain closed to the media.

“It’s because the people who are…raising the money request that. And I will continue to be accessible, and the most accessible campaign in history to the media,” McCain told reporters today, but not before bringing up Obama’s infamous “bitter” comments, which the Democrat originally uttered at a private fundraiser of his own. “I’d also like to say I do not say in my, during fundraisers comments like the people in Pennsylvania being bitter and angry and turn against their religion and the Constitution because of their economic conditions. I say the same thing in fundraisers and closed events as I do in open events.”

But Bloomberg’s Hans Nichols pushed for proof of this consistent message asking, “are we just supposed to take your word for it?”

“If you want to. If you want to. You don’t have to,” McCain shot back.
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http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/05/29/mccain-fundraisers-to-remain-closed-to-press/

Therefore, the challenge now to McCain is to open the fundraising doors.  So yes, again, that is the accusation that Obama&#039;s camp will now make as this topic arises-- &quot;I did it, why don&#039;t you do it?&quot; 

That&#039;s the contrast, that&#039;s the explicit challenge they want to make.  

Obama can play the &quot;political expediency&quot; card here and get points. Additionally, in the process, he will flush out the tons of lobbyists in McCain&#039;s campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that&#8217;s right: now &#8216;presto&#8217; Obama has opened all his fundraisers to the press while McCain himself said in May all fundraisers will remain closed to the media:</p>
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While he is typically more accessible to the press than his rivals on the campaign trail, Sen. McCain said Wednesday that his fundraisers will remain closed to the media.</p>
<p>“It’s because the people who are…raising the money request that. And I will continue to be accessible, and the most accessible campaign in history to the media,” McCain told reporters today, but not before bringing up Obama’s infamous “bitter” comments, which the Democrat originally uttered at a private fundraiser of his own. “I’d also like to say I do not say in my, during fundraisers comments like the people in Pennsylvania being bitter and angry and turn against their religion and the Constitution because of their economic conditions. I say the same thing in fundraisers and closed events as I do in open events.”</p>
<p>But Bloomberg’s Hans Nichols pushed for proof of this consistent message asking, “are we just supposed to take your word for it?”</p>
<p>“If you want to. If you want to. You don’t have to,” McCain shot back.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/05/29/mccain-fundraisers-to-remain-closed-to-press/" rel="nofollow">http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/05/29/mccain-fundraisers-to-remain-closed-to-press/</a></p>
<p>Therefore, the challenge now to McCain is to open the fundraising doors.  So yes, again, that is the accusation that Obama&#8217;s camp will now make as this topic arises&#8211; &#8220;I did it, why don&#8217;t you do it?&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the contrast, that&#8217;s the explicit challenge they want to make.  </p>
<p>Obama can play the &#8220;political expediency&#8221; card here and get points. Additionally, in the process, he will flush out the tons of lobbyists in McCain&#8217;s campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Key words, Doug...

&lt;blockquote&gt;His likely opponent, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), closes his fundraisers to the press. Beginning last night, Obama will open all of his fundraisers &lt;/blockquote&gt;

McCain&#039;s had both open and closed fundraisers.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfisonline.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/03/26/DDMKVPJT1.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;So has Obama...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the Haight, stencils of Barack Obama&#039;s smiling face are decorating the sidewalk. But in real life, he is turning up in more lucrative venues: The candidate will be around here on April 6, at a series of events that includes three $2,300-a-head maximum-strength fundraisers: Sara and Sohaib Abbasi are throwing a luncheon in Atherton; he&#039;ll zip up to Nancy and Bob Farese&#039;s house in Kentfield in mid-afternoon; and proceed from there to Ann and Gordon Getty&#039;s in San Francisco. (There&#039;s also a mere $1,000-a-person do at the home of Carolyn Davis and Alex Mehran that night.) 

Your trusty party-animal-by-proxy has tried to infiltrate these events, but transparency seems to be fogged up. No media eyes allowed on the collection kettles; when the gifts are big, the press is barred.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is, of course, during the era of the &quot;bitter&quot; types clinging to their religion and guns gaffe.

So let me get this straight... both candidates have had private fundraisers closed to the press.  But now presto, Obama promises to open his, while accusing McCain of nefarious deeds that he himself has emulated.  

I guess that holier-than-thou &quot;transparency&quot; only holds value during the general and not the primary, eh?  But the burning question is, if he were so *for* complete transparency, why wait until now to start?  And are we supposed to forget he was &quot;for it&quot; yesterday before he was &quot;against it&quot; today?

I&#039;d call it a dual-use illusion based on political expediency, myself.  All meant to falsely elevate BHO to a pedestal, aided by banking on the voters&#039; short term memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key words, Doug&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>His likely opponent, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), closes his fundraisers to the press. Beginning last night, Obama will open all of his fundraisers </p></blockquote>
<p>McCain&#8217;s had both open and closed fundraisers.  <a href="http://www.sfisonline.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/03/26/DDMKVPJT1.DTL" rel="nofollow"><b>So has Obama&#8230;</b></a></p>
<blockquote><p>In the Haight, stencils of Barack Obama&#8217;s smiling face are decorating the sidewalk. But in real life, he is turning up in more lucrative venues: The candidate will be around here on April 6, at a series of events that includes three $2,300-a-head maximum-strength fundraisers: Sara and Sohaib Abbasi are throwing a luncheon in Atherton; he&#8217;ll zip up to Nancy and Bob Farese&#8217;s house in Kentfield in mid-afternoon; and proceed from there to Ann and Gordon Getty&#8217;s in San Francisco. (There&#8217;s also a mere $1,000-a-person do at the home of Carolyn Davis and Alex Mehran that night.) </p>
<p>Your trusty party-animal-by-proxy has tried to infiltrate these events, but transparency seems to be fogged up. No media eyes allowed on the collection kettles; when the gifts are big, the press is barred.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is, of course, during the era of the &#8220;bitter&#8221; types clinging to their religion and guns gaffe.</p>
<p>So let me get this straight&#8230; both candidates have had private fundraisers closed to the press.  But now presto, Obama promises to open his, while accusing McCain of nefarious deeds that he himself has emulated.  </p>
<p>I guess that holier-than-thou &#8220;transparency&#8221; only holds value during the general and not the primary, eh?  But the burning question is, if he were so *for* complete transparency, why wait until now to start?  And are we supposed to forget he was &#8220;for it&#8221; yesterday before he was &#8220;against it&#8221; today?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d call it a dual-use illusion based on political expediency, myself.  All meant to falsely elevate BHO to a pedestal, aided by banking on the voters&#8217; short term memories.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
(Politico)  Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is moving on two fronts to make transparency a linchpin of his campaign, opening his fundraisers to reporters and clamping down on the Democratic National Committee’s fundraising from Washington insiders.

The moves, announced on his second full day as the party’s de facto presidential nominee, are designed to drive a campaign message of change versus more of the same, aides said.

His likely opponent, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), closes his fundraisers to the press. Beginning last night, Obama will open all of his fundraisers to at least a pool reporter, who will share the information with the rest of the press corps.

Beginning Thursday, the DNC will no longer accept checks from federal lobbyists or political action committees, mirroring the strict standard Obama adopted for his presidential campaign.
...
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As McCain said, &quot;This is, indeed, a change election.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
(Politico)  Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is moving on two fronts to make transparency a linchpin of his campaign, opening his fundraisers to reporters and clamping down on the Democratic National Committee’s fundraising from Washington insiders.</p>
<p>The moves, announced on his second full day as the party’s de facto presidential nominee, are designed to drive a campaign message of change versus more of the same, aides said.</p>
<p>His likely opponent, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), closes his fundraisers to the press. Beginning last night, Obama will open all of his fundraisers to at least a pool reporter, who will share the information with the rest of the press corps.</p>
<p>Beginning Thursday, the DNC will no longer accept checks from federal lobbyists or political action committees, mirroring the strict standard Obama adopted for his presidential campaign.<br />
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</p></blockquote>
<p>As McCain said, &#8220;This is, indeed, a change election.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/03/hillary-outnot-obama-wants-to-remake-the-us-of-a-mccain-bashes-bushwhat-a-day-in-politics/#comment-82202</link>
		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great news!

Someone turned Arthur&#039;s rock over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great news!</p>
<p>Someone turned Arthur&#8217;s rock over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthurstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthurstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye Chihuahua typed:


&#039;Speaking skills alone do not good Presidents make.&#039;





Indeed. And as we have learned in 7-1/2 painful years neither does their utter absence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye Chihuahua typed:</p>
<p>&#8216;Speaking skills alone do not good Presidents make.&#8217;</p>
<p>Indeed. And as we have learned in 7-1/2 painful years neither does their utter absence.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;True… but it is how you inspire people to get out and vote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not all of us.

Personally, I&#039;m more interested and inspired by character, vision, ability, and principle.


&lt;blockquote&gt;Sure worked with the BHO crowd, having a free concert “open” for him.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s a great idea.  

Let&#039;s have a free concert as an opening act for McCain.

Maybe the band that we choose can play the Soviet national anthem as the opening song.

I haven&#039;t heard that tune since Obie&#039;s concert day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>True… but it is how you inspire people to get out and vote.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not all of us.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m more interested and inspired by character, vision, ability, and principle.</p>
<blockquote><p>Sure worked with the BHO crowd, having a free concert “open” for him.
</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a great idea.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have a free concert as an opening act for McCain.</p>
<p>Maybe the band that we choose can play the Soviet national anthem as the opening song.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t heard that tune since Obie&#8217;s concert day.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well James, guess the GOP better get the wide world of wrestling behind McCain for the flash and pyrotechniques, eh?  Sure worked with the BHO crowd, having a free concert &quot;open&quot; for him.

Too bad we are so easily swayed by such stuff over substance.  But you are entirely correct that people are drawn to the magnetic visuals and energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well James, guess the GOP better get the wide world of wrestling behind McCain for the flash and pyrotechniques, eh?  Sure worked with the BHO crowd, having a free concert &#8220;open&#8221; for him.</p>
<p>Too bad we are so easily swayed by such stuff over substance.  But you are entirely correct that people are drawn to the magnetic visuals and energy.</p>
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		<title>By: james manning</title>
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		<dc:creator>james manning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For some it’s all about the speechifying.

For the rest of us, it’s all about the substance.

Speaking skills alone do not good Presidents make.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True... but it is how you inspire people to get out and vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For some it’s all about the speechifying.</p>
<p>For the rest of us, it’s all about the substance.</p>
<p>Speaking skills alone do not good Presidents make.</p></blockquote>
<p>True&#8230; but it is how you inspire people to get out and vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some it&#039;s all about the speechifying.

For the rest of us, it&#039;s all about the substance.

Speaking skills alone do not good Presidents make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some it&#8217;s all about the speechifying.</p>
<p>For the rest of us, it&#8217;s all about the substance.</p>
<p>Speaking skills alone do not good Presidents make.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A look at FOX pundits comparing their notes last nite on the contrast between McCain and Obama&#039;s oratory abilities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4&amp;eurl=http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

A glimpse of what the future holds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A look at FOX pundits comparing their notes last nite on the contrast between McCain and Obama&#8217;s oratory abilities:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4&amp;eurl=http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4&amp;eurl=http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/</a></p>
<p>A glimpse of what the future holds?</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The winds of change are blowing in America. When strong winds blow the great oak tree bends and sways in the wind but never breaks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Went to the BHO school of flowery speech for bait-and-switch misrepresentation, eh Errol?  Guess you&#039;ve never lived in Florida where those oaks break, and/or are uprooted easily from that &lt;i&gt;&quot;soil of certainty&quot;,&lt;/i&gt; crashing in roofs during hurricanes.  Duh....

&lt;blockquote&gt;America must recapture the dream and vision of the pilgrim fathers, knowing that all things are possible to them that believe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As long as you&#039;re not &quot;too rich&quot; or &quot;too successful&quot;.  Progressives can&#039;t have that.  So keep your &quot;dreams&quot; within their guidelines, please.


Thus shall your &quot;winds of change&quot; go.  And when you&#039;ve woken up some time in the future, and found yourself in a US socialist republic, I shall remind you that you asked for this &quot;change&quot;....

Doug, about your 

&lt;blockquote&gt;But that’s not all, McCain cannot boast of a robust small-dollar internet fund-raising operation that Obama can, which also contrasts Obama as more populist based. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

For a &quot;populist based&quot; guy, he sure didn&#039;t win the popular vote with any impressive amount.  In fact, depending on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;how you count and estimate votes, &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;about half the scenarios have Clinton ahead.  

He&#039;s a super delegates creation... not a populist one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The winds of change are blowing in America. When strong winds blow the great oak tree bends and sways in the wind but never breaks.</p></blockquote>
<p>Went to the BHO school of flowery speech for bait-and-switch misrepresentation, eh Errol?  Guess you&#8217;ve never lived in Florida where those oaks break, and/or are uprooted easily from that <i>&#8220;soil of certainty&#8221;,</i> crashing in roofs during hurricanes.  Duh&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p>America must recapture the dream and vision of the pilgrim fathers, knowing that all things are possible to them that believe.</p></blockquote>
<p>As long as you&#8217;re not &#8220;too rich&#8221; or &#8220;too successful&#8221;.  Progressives can&#8217;t have that.  So keep your &#8220;dreams&#8221; within their guidelines, please.</p>
<p>Thus shall your &#8220;winds of change&#8221; go.  And when you&#8217;ve woken up some time in the future, and found yourself in a US socialist republic, I shall remind you that you asked for this &#8220;change&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Doug, about your </p>
<blockquote><p>But that’s not all, McCain cannot boast of a robust small-dollar internet fund-raising operation that Obama can, which also contrasts Obama as more populist based. </p></blockquote>
<p>For a &#8220;populist based&#8221; guy, he sure didn&#8217;t win the popular vote with any impressive amount.  In fact, depending on <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html" rel="nofollow"><b>how you count and estimate votes, </b></a>about half the scenarios have Clinton ahead.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s a super delegates creation&#8230; not a populist one.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can Primary funds be directy rolled into GE funds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can Primary funds be directy rolled into GE funds?</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more than &#039;interesting&#039;.

Obama is now sucking up Clinton&#039;s fundraising machine to confront McCain. McCain&#039;s fund-raising has badly trailed practically all his Dem. counterparts. Now it&#039;s much worse for McCain.

So this &#039;fundraiser transparency&#039; move is certain to flush out McCain&#039;s lobby pool.  

But that&#039;s not all, McCain cannot boast of a robust small-dollar internet fund-raising operation that Obama can, which also contrasts Obama as more populist based. 

Obama&#039;s fund-raising advantage makes it increasingly unlikely that he will back away from a &quot;pledge&quot; he made last year to accept public financing for the GE even if McCain does-- as he may legally need to. The goal is to win; playing on an even field when you don&#039;t need to is a poor strategy. 

Public Citizen and other groups  have also identified over 70 McCain  &#039;bundlers,&#039; who were, until recently, lobbyists,  working for his campaign while lobbying, compared with 14 Obama lobbyist bundlers, none of whom are actively lobbying. That&#039;s another contrast. It&#039;ll be this month&#039;s deja vu  from last month:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Sen. John McCain said today that his campaign will do a better job scrutinizing the people who work for it, given the resignation of two officials who had ties to a firm representing Myanmar&#039;s military junta....

&quot;People will be thoroughly, more thoroughly, vetted and we&#039;ll make sure that that is the case.&quot;

He specifically referred to the two people who were tied to Myanmar--Doug Davenport, a regional campaign director for Mid-Atlantic states, and Doug Goodyear, who was slated to run the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., this summer.

&quot;We found out that these two individuals had represented that country and so they left. We will vet everyone very seriously to make sure there&#039;s not a repetition,&quot; McCain told reporters.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The prime targets this time:

Phil Graham, Charlie Black, and Rick Davis. 

This will be the MSM contrast, if McCain doesn&#039;t open the fundraising doors-- yet if he does, he will need to decide whether to lose White house faces at his fundraisers. 
 
It&#039;s very probable by the Fall Obama may be able to outspend McCain so drastically-- perhaps 4-1-- that McCain won&#039;t have to money to mold his own image, or Obama&#039;s, while Obama will have the advantage to define McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more than &#8216;interesting&#8217;.</p>
<p>Obama is now sucking up Clinton&#8217;s fundraising machine to confront McCain. McCain&#8217;s fund-raising has badly trailed practically all his Dem. counterparts. Now it&#8217;s much worse for McCain.</p>
<p>So this &#8216;fundraiser transparency&#8217; move is certain to flush out McCain&#8217;s lobby pool.  </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not all, McCain cannot boast of a robust small-dollar internet fund-raising operation that Obama can, which also contrasts Obama as more populist based. </p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s fund-raising advantage makes it increasingly unlikely that he will back away from a &#8220;pledge&#8221; he made last year to accept public financing for the GE even if McCain does&#8211; as he may legally need to. The goal is to win; playing on an even field when you don&#8217;t need to is a poor strategy. </p>
<p>Public Citizen and other groups  have also identified over 70 McCain  &#8216;bundlers,&#8217; who were, until recently, lobbyists,  working for his campaign while lobbying, compared with 14 Obama lobbyist bundlers, none of whom are actively lobbying. That&#8217;s another contrast. It&#8217;ll be this month&#8217;s deja vu  from last month:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Sen. John McCain said today that his campaign will do a better job scrutinizing the people who work for it, given the resignation of two officials who had ties to a firm representing Myanmar&#8217;s military junta&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;People will be thoroughly, more thoroughly, vetted and we&#8217;ll make sure that that is the case.&#8221;</p>
<p>He specifically referred to the two people who were tied to Myanmar&#8211;Doug Davenport, a regional campaign director for Mid-Atlantic states, and Doug Goodyear, who was slated to run the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., this summer.</p>
<p>&#8220;We found out that these two individuals had represented that country and so they left. We will vet everyone very seriously to make sure there&#8217;s not a repetition,&#8221; McCain told reporters.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The prime targets this time:</p>
<p>Phil Graham, Charlie Black, and Rick Davis. </p>
<p>This will be the MSM contrast, if McCain doesn&#8217;t open the fundraising doors&#8211; yet if he does, he will need to decide whether to lose White house faces at his fundraisers. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s very probable by the Fall Obama may be able to outspend McCain so drastically&#8211; perhaps 4-1&#8211; that McCain won&#8217;t have to money to mold his own image, or Obama&#8217;s, while Obama will have the advantage to define McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok...so the guy who made the &quot;bitter&quot; &quot;guns and religion clinging&quot; comments at a private fund raising event in CA in the presence of billionaires is suddenly going to open all of his events to the press.  

Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;so the guy who made the &#8220;bitter&#8221; &#8220;guns and religion clinging&#8221; comments at a private fund raising event in CA in the presence of billionaires is suddenly going to open all of his events to the press.  </p>
<p>Interesting.</p>
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