Michelle Obama “Whitey” Tape – Update & Bumped: No Tape – Just Hearsay On Whats On The Supposed Tape

Do you mean you trust Larry Johnson more than Barack? That’s odd. I have them about even.

Just a tidbit I saw on another blog.

Apparently, there is a tape. But Michelle does not say ‘Whitey’. She’s railing about Bush and saying “Why’d he do (this)…And why’d he do (that).” Of course, it sounds like she’s saying Whitey. If there is a tape and this tidbit is true, then the tape will likely be edited to where there is no context. It will sound like ‘Whitey’ to everyone. The Obamas will have a PC to explain. The unedited version will come out with the context. And it will ultimately backfire.

If the above ends up being true, then one has to wonder who’s pulling the dirty trick. It may be that Obama’s people are behind this with the purpose of making the right and/or Hillary supporters look dumb and histrionic.

I guess well find out what’s true tomorrow.

Latest is the Scarry Larry doesn’t have the tape , only awareness of it and it is supposedly in the hands of a TV network (some are saying Fox).

Whoever , if it exists, better double and tripple check and ask for comment for the Obama camp in advance to see if they can debunk it.

Larry Johnson doesn’t have the goods. It’s a case of “Why’d he” rather than “Whitey”.

If you read the post (and all other posts on No Quarter regarding the alleged Whitey video) Johnson is not claiming to have the video and is not promising to post it Monday. He’s promising to post news about the video, and claiming that others have it, and airing a YouTube video of Roger Stone on Fox News speculating that a TV Network has it.

What he might be doing is HINTING that he has it, for the purpose of smoking out those who he thinks really do have it, and getting them to release it earlier than October (consistent with his desire that Clinton beat Obama.)

I heard last week or so on the Sean Hannity radio show that he had some Michelle tape.

He started by laughing and saying the nutroots kept claiming he had a tape he would use to attack Obama’s wife late in the election as an October surprise. It sounded like he was ridiculing the nutroots for being conspiracy theorists.

But, then for the rest of the talk — he did everything but admit he had a very damning tape.

He said stuff about how if he had such a tape, he would use it when he deemed it was appropriate and he played such a tape up.

It sounded to me like he had a tape and would use it sometime in the future and that he was more than justified in doing so.

Since he is a Fox News person too, my guess is that they have it.

I think any tape would be sort of a scare tactic. Rather than having a tape, people are scaring the Democrats into emptying their closet of skeletons and causing paranoia. That doesn’t mean they don’t have a lot to empty.

This is going to turn out to be nothing.

If she did say something as damaging as what’s being hyped, it would’ve already turned up.

If she said it recently (like within the last two weeks), she’d have to be pretty stupid to be as blatant as what’s being alleged. She isn’t stupid. Angry – yes, but not stupid.

IF (and that’s a BIG if) there is something waiting to come out, only two parties could be behind it.

Hillary or the GOP.

If it’s the latter, it’d be pretty stupid for the GOP to trot it out now. But I’m being redundant.

If the tape turns out to show ‘Why’d he’ versus ‘Whitey’, that’ll make the peddler look very foolish. It is also likely to backfire on the group perceived to be pushing that tape, ie – Hillary’s 2012 campaign or the GOP.

There are many in the GOP who are conservative and tolerant of other races. Call it ‘white guilt’, but it’s more like a fatigue of relentless bullying of the black race. This current presidential race has the undertone that blacks are now somehow the racists and have been all along, which is a shocking charge given the history of this nation.

Many in the GOP do not want to be associated with the hate filled red neck agenda. While it could win an election, it would solidify the future of the GOP as the party of racists rather than the party that freed the slaves. If the GOP officially comes out and makes a racially charged attack, there’s a good chance that Obama would garner sympathy votes in far more numbers than fear driven anti-black votes.

McCain is officially against such tactics, too. He may look to many as an ineffectual old man who cannot control his party. That’s not a good fit with the GOP mantra.

Update: LJ is all talk and no show.

He just reiterates what he has already said throughout his blog. Obama… Farrakhan… Rezko… Only Hillary can save us…

But he has no tape to show.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/02/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take-on-whitey/

Mike- was it fair to say that MI would not count and then keep your name on the ballot and win and claim it is legitimate even though they flouted the rules? Is that fair? You are talking about 4 delegates? 4. I thought it was a popular vote contest? And about this tape, even if she said whitey and appeared with farrakhan we don’t care. don’t vote for him if it offends you. but, this si not about that. Its about knocking someone down and it goes both ways, mind you. you have a tpae and you play it. trust me all we have to do is play the rfk assasination tape and mccain’s town hall tapes. That is enough for good people to head for the hills. MI FLOUTED THE RULES. SHE ASKED FOR THEM TO BE SEATED. THE RULES AND BYLAWS COMMITTE THAT SHE SWORE BY GAVE HIM THE 4 DELEGATES. WITH HER STILL IN THE RACE, NO OBAMA SHOULD CONCEDE NOT ONE THING TO HER. Period.

Unless there are two left wing bloggers by the name of Larry Johnson I believe this guy also confirmed that Karl Rove had been indicted on May 12, 2006. I think its a good bet that he is pretending to have sources while guessing and hoping to get this one right.

Oooh Charlie Brown? Lucy has your football all ready:

From what I understand, it is a tape of Michelle Obama criticizing the Bush administration.

Whitie cut folks off medicaid?
Whitie let New Orleans drown?
Whitie do nothing about Jena?
Whitie put us in Iraq for no reason?

If there is a tape it would probably be released by the Obama campaign right after Denver.

I believe the Obama campaign orchestrated the release of the Wright tapes. He had just won Mississippi and the was six weeks till the next contest. If that wasn’t planned then divine intervention is working in Obama’s favor.

I don’t believe there is a tape. Who the hell says”whitey” anymore? Sounds like an In Living Color sketch.

Mata,

I agree with you on most of your points.

With HRC we sort of know what to expect.

Obie is largely a dark horse. The unknowns are bad, the knowns are worse.

I disagree with you on whether he would run again if he loses this time. I think this is his one and only shot. Now or never.

I think the same is true for HRC.

The Dims are clearly doing what they have to do to exise the Clintons from their organization. It appears that Dims, like most of the rest of us, are sick of hearing and looking at BillyJeff and his wife and her willingness to drag the party down in pursuit of the power she so desperately seeks will not sit well with the voters.

Appu, you are full of shit. Obama’s primary “wins” consist largely of inherently undemocratic caucus systems, the disenfranchisement of MI and FL, the monolithic, goose-stepping “I gonna votes for mah brotha!” black voters, and Caucasians consumed with white guilt. A perfect storm puts forth the weakest candidate since dukakis.

He will be crushed in the general election, and rightly so.

Mata,

We agree. Mostly.

My opinion is that regardless of which one becomes the nominee, this will be the one and only shot for both.

There’s no doubt in my mind that Michelle Obama is racist, and no doubt that she has said racist things about white people before. Whether she has been caught on tape saying them, I don’t know.

I do find it interesting that a bunch of Obama supporters all seem to know what was actually said (”Why’d he…”), yet none has come forward and produced the actual video. If the video isn’t incriminating, shouldn’t they want it to get out to defuse this rumor? How do all these people have the transcript but not the video?

Even if no Michelle “whitey” tape does really exists, I’ve already seen enough about Obama and his black racist coalition to know they are good for nothing. I’ll never have enough white guilt in me to be such a coward as too support these true racists!

First off I would like to say, I dont believe theres a tape. The Johnson blog thing didnt lead me to think about it at all when it came out awhile back. But I heard a Sean Hannity radio clip, where he did everything but admit he had it. Of course, I dont watch Fox news that much these days because I felt they did a certain Texas republican congressman running for president wrong a few months back, but I read somewhere the tape was mentioned on Geraldo or something.

I think one thing that does hurt me a bit as an American is the fact that people will get hung up over there candidate so much that they would vote for them no matter what was said or found out. People will try everyway to justify what they said. Where already seeing it all over the net. What tape are people talking about the ‘Whyd he’ instead of ‘White he” tape? I havent seen this tape either. Who in the hell is sitting on all of these Trinity church tapes anyway? It makes me wonder who was leaking one after the other videos in that church? And how many more are there? Why did Obama leave now? Maybe this tape?

As I said I dont believe it, because I as others have said think that if that tape exists we would have seen it by now. I also think though that Obamas wife has put herself in this hotseat because of her past remarks. If the rumor was Obama was caught saying ‘whitey’, I dont think people would buy it for one second. But Michelle on the other hand, I think would definatly be capable of those remarks and thats why this rumor is spreading. Obama dont seem that bad, but between his old church and wife he seems to be surrounded by angry blacks. I dont think he is one though, but who knows.

You have to wonder who is releasing all these tapes in the first place, and do they have a few more of those bad tapes that there holding on to.. Makes you wonder. If you remember all of the Reverand Wright tapes where not released at once. They released bits a time. Then we saw more preachers. Who’s releasing the tapes? Who has them?

Gee Juanita! You get the award for cramming the most loony left moonbat talking points into a single paragraph!

Not one of them has any credence AT ALL.

We need more of your type of Obama supporter to come forward. You’re the best reason to vote for McCain I’ve found yet.

Two more glimpses into the Libtard Brain Trust.

Some of you guys are off the mark. Most black people do not hate white people. I’m not even sure where that comes from. Barak Obama did win it fair and square. The rules doesn’t state that caucus states don’t count or states where Democrats generally do poorly don’t count. All Hillary had to do was run a campaign and compete in the caucus states and she would be the nominee.

As for Michelle being a racist – get real. I’ll bet there are many of you on here who have said racist remarks and I’m sure none of you would confess to being a racist. Personally, I’ve seen many comments where I am quite convinced that some of you are racist.

Here’s the true fact. If with everything going on in the country and around the world, if in Noember people are talking about race and what church someone goes to and all this fluff – then I say we don’t deserve a better government and I will submit that Americans out of their freakin’ minds.

It’s all about the war, the economy, health care, social security, energy policies, trade, immigration and inflation. Everything else is a sideshow and distraction.

Sadly, the important thing is that it keeps being talked about, not whether or not it’s true.

In two months, all the ignorant people will be saying he’s a muslim and his wife hates whitey.

What a great country.

And the worst part is that idiot Hillary supporters are going to vote against the most liberal and prowoman presidential candidtate we’ve had in a long time and vote for a old man who’s going to put in conservative judges and calls his wife a c–t. Nice job girls. Keep up the good fight.

…And the worst part is that idiot Hillary supporters are going to vote against the most liberal and prowoman presidential candidtate we’ve had in a long time…

Perhaps “the most liberal” ever, Krafty. And that’s why we’ll be voting against him. I do not want my country going Marxist or socialist. And evidently, I am not alone.

I can only speak for myself. But I don’t care if BHO is a Muslim or Christian. I care about his policies (as James Manning said: the war, the economy, health care, social security, energy policies, trade, immigration and inflation). I abhor his far left solutions.

I care that he and Michelle feel their dreams came at the “expense” of my dreams. They are professional victims, claiming they have been deprived because of their color.

And that is what their now former-church preaches from the pulpit (evidently) with regularity. Their pastors keep resentment alive by constantly proclaiming that their black community continually suffers at the hands of the white community. Nice… Makes you wonder just who are the racists really? How does one heal a racial wound you say exists when you deliberately re’open the wound and allow it to fester further at every opportunity?

I agree with James Manning. The Trinity congregation and like kind churches are not indicative of America’s black population. However it has to be noted: it is that segment of the black population that Obama and Michelle willing chose with which to associate long term. That resentment of the white community, based on their statements and his affirmative actionesque policies – must reside deep within them, and their children. That kind of resentment has no place in the Oval Office

And oh yeah… Juanita and Jaz are two stellar examples of the voting mentality (and education level) in this country. Scares the tar out of me! And Juanita? How privileged in the food chain of authority she must be to have “heard some type of video” that has not been publicly broadcast. Geez louise….

You’re not seriously trying to compare Rev. Wright and his hateful, racist, anti-American tirades from the pulpit to Catholic priests who molested little boys are you?

Are you?

Surely not.

Show me a Catholic priest who preached that it was OK to molest children and then you’ll have a valid comparison.

Even better, show me a member of a Catholic Diocese who sat in their pew for 20 years knowing that their priest was preying on little boys.

Show me a member of a Catholic church who allowed their children to be baptized by a known child predator.

Those would be a valid comparisons.

If there was a video tape of a prominent Republican or Conservative politician ranting about black people and saying the N word you, and people like you, would have your hair on fire.

But when it is Obie’s wife or Sen. Robert Byrd, all is forgiven.

Sorry, that doesn’t work for me.

I am independent and am still not happy with all the animosity and/or choices this year, but why am I not surprised? Things keep getting worse every election cycle. Politics is a blood sport and the Clintons are good at it (maybe best around) but Obama has many old Clintonites working for him now along with the Chicago RICO team. I watch the cable news. MSNBC is unashamedly left-left wing Obama country and Sean Hannity of Fox News is way too holier-than-though, mom and apple pie for me. I feel bad for Alan Colmes. The idea of attacking the church did not start with Trinity. The lefties have been attacking Evangelicals for years as if they were diseased. Christians are not evangelicals and vice versa but many are conservative.

I’d like to point out that McCain is NO Bushie. They have disagreed so many times about so many things that their relationship has been frigid for many years. The only things they have in common are the war (at THIS stage, certain immigration reforms, and a few others). They have disagreed on the economy, torture, health care, etc. So he is not Bush’s third term wannabe. You have to repsect the man for what he has been through and why he may hate the “gooks” who were the specific ones who tortured him. I don’t always agree with McCain but he makes sense on many ideas, including SMALLER government. He also has very different ideas on the energy issue. I believe Bush has maybe had some ulterior motives in this area, what with his family and Cheney’s family being deeply involved in the issue. The only good thing I can say about this is is that he has strong rapport with the Saudi king and his family. On the gas issue, I specifically recall both the Demoractic house and senate promising to bring gas prices down nearly two years ago. What have they done Absolutely zero. I also question Pelosi and Reid’s intervention in this delagate issue. They wanted Barack to win and did everything in their power to ensure that he was the nominee. The way I see it, we have far left cable news and far right cable news. Well, at least for many of them. Alan Colmes is the free-thinking half of his show. I am tired of hearing Hannity repeating right-wing talking points. I don’t think I’m alone in believing the media actually drives, or tries to, any election and has done so for the past 15-20 years.

On the subject of Barack and Michelle. I do believe MO is far more right-wing than Barack. She has an angry side to her that is not very attractive. She influences Barack, as do his colleagues. It almost seems that he is a puppet for his buddies here and I would like to see some of his own true opinions about several things. Off hand, I want to know how he feels about genetic experimentation, pork barrel programs, etc. Michelle worries me. I have read her entire dissertation from college about the “Blacks” trying to assimilate into white society, how even her “liberal” college professors at Harvard (who are famous for extreme right-wing views) weren’t liberal enough for herand how she felt blacks were selling out their own. She’s the one who began the Daley crowd relationship. I have not heard and I wonder i what church she was a member of before Barack joined Trinity in 1992. It seems odd that he joined Trinity in 1992, married there in 1992, had his children baptized there, and considered the pastor an “uncle.” Someone had to have THAT connection prior to 1992. It also makes me wonder why Barack is so adamant that people leave MO out of the conversation.

Finally, the Democrats obviously have problems with the way their primaries are set up. Anyone can see this. People become disenfranchised when they feel their votes don’t count. HRC is not the first to complain of this. Al Gore made some strong arguments about exactly the same thing. When the people’s votes come in behind delegates, superdelegates, and caucuses, something is awry. An entire revamping of this system is deperately needed. Hopefully, the fiasco this year may cause some action. It seems odd that superdelegates were being added even before the popular vote was halfway through. The Republicans do seem to have a much better way of doing this.

No matter what happens, whether there is a tape of MO railing against “whiteys,” which I believe may very well have happened since she was sitting with Farrkhan, et al., and she seems to push blacks out of the camera view to replace them with whites and Asians, she needs some coaching. Obama needs to work on the Hispanic vote, female vote, and blue-collar vote. Without these votes, he doesn’t stand the proverbial snowball’s chance in November.

I would like to see some more civilized campaigning but won’t hold my breath. However, I would like to see someome ask questions to all the candidates in a “fair and balanced” debate that is not limited by time, but limited only by quallty. Representatives from all news media, college students, and groups such as women’s rights, minorities, and youth would be different and much more interesting.I was going to complain about people not proofreading their comments but when I started typing, I can see onlythree lines and have to backtrack 18 lines to get to my typos. Sorry for the verbosity here, but I had to get this off my chest.

- Drop the tape

- Make the dem dictatorial leadership take it back from Obama

- We all sit back and watch the riots

- We don’t have to worry about socialism for a couple more years.

I will NEVER accept a low-life smooth talking man like Barak Obama as my president.

He is like most men…all talk, little dick.

The best of men speak little, and do wonderful things.

Listening to Michelle, Obama must be a little dicked mama’s boy, pussy whipped.

Hillary is more of a man than No-mama-baba.

Well it’s the buzz all over the net. What I have read it’s a tape of Mrs. Obama criticizing the Bush Administration. Whitie cut folks off medical? Whitie let new New Orleans drown? etc. etc., Why’d he cut folks off medicaid? Why’d he let New Orleans drown?, or Why did Bush cut folks off medicaid? Why did Bush let New Orleans drown? If there a tape, bring it out. Stop playing games. I personally think GOP/Fox News would have produce it if they really had something. We all know the GOP wanted to go against Hillary in the GE not Obama. I agree. As a black woman, I think Faux News would have aired it already to bring down the black man… Senator Obama. I hope and pray this is just a false rumor to scare white voters not to vote for Senator Obama. This is another attempt from the Right Wing to discredit Obama. I also agree we all say things that are not PC in the privacy of our homes or people who look like you.

I don’t care one way or another if the tape exist or not. I don’t understand why the GOP has to stoop so low to win votes. They say they’re Christian an all. Why so much hate and racism? I just don’t like the negative attacks on the Obamas from the Obama-bashers. They listen to conservative talk news and believe in their lies and half-truths. They are hypocrites. They say they can’t vote for Obama because he’s a racist but they are voting for racist McCain? All the candidates have flaws, tell white lies and are not perfect. I just know Fox News likes to do stuff like this to scare the white people and give them justification not to vote for Senator Obama. My understand of operation chaos is Rush wanted Hillary to go against McCain. If this is true or not, I don’t listen to that racist crap. I can only watch Fox News for 30 mins otherwise I get sick. It’s too negative and racist for me. I guess you wouldn’t understand that unless you are a person of color. I am keeping my hopes up and praying Senator Obama will be our next president.

FYI,

My old friend, Larry Johnson, knows about manipulating elections from his training with the Central Intelligence Agency. He doesn’t want Obama to win the nomination for whatever reason, and he’s in full propaganda mode to do everything he can to frighten the superdelegates. He claims to have a shocking tape of Michelle Obama ranting in some anti-white diatribe. He promises to produce this tape tomorrow at 9am.

From what I understand, it is a tape of Michelle Obama criticizing the Bush administration.

How you’d write it:

Why did Bush cut folks off medicaid?
Why did Bush let New Orleans drown?
Why did Bush do nothing about Jena?
Why did Bush put us in Iraq for no reason?

How you’d say it:

Why’d he cut folks off medicaid?
Why’d he let New Orleans drown?
Why’d he do nothing about Jena?
Why’d he put us in Iraq for no reason?

How Larry Johnson wants you to hear it:

Whitie cut folks off medicaid?
Whitie let New Orleans drown?
Whitie do nothing about Jena?
Whitie put us in Iraq for no reason?

I’m going to be honest with you. Both SusanHu and Larry Johnson have been friends of mine. They have both done a lot for me and I am grateful and indebted to them. Any issues I’ve had with their activities in this election I have kept private. I haven’t visited their site in four months because I found it too personally painful to read what they were writing and I did not want to be tempted to respond. I thought I owed them that. But loyalty can only go so far. If they publish this allegation tomorrow, I will no longer speak with them. And I say that with great sorrow.

This election has ruined a lot of friendships. I have tried hard not to let it ruin mine. But smears of this type are unforgivable. I have been forebearing. Perhaps, in retrospect, I have been too forebearing. That’s all I say. This is too painful to me.

Juanita, INRE your:

My understand of operation chaos is Rush wanted Hillary to go against McCain. If this is true or not, I don’t listen to that racist crap.

You are completely misinformed on Operation Chaos. It was never about having a Hillary candidacy. It was to insure that the vote between Hillary and Obama was so close that it would take the super delegates to decide the candidate, therefore causing the internal battles and rift within the DNC you see today…. or, “chaos” within the party. I believe a drumroll and “ta daaaaaaa” are appropriate here.

Had either one lost by a landslide, there would have been no “chaos”. Since Hillary was behind, Operation Chaos backed her. Simple as that.

Reality is neither candidate has sufficient votes via pledged delegates to be awarded the nomination. The only way Obama has it is via the supers. The supers may pledge to Obama today, but they don’t actually cast their votes until the Denver convention.

If a monstrously damaging Obama scandal, that cannot be ignored, surfaces between now and Denver, the supers can easily overturn Obama’s slight majority of pledged delegates, and award it to Hillary.

Now you know the purpose of Operation Chaos. Had nothing to do with race but in your own mind.

Now wander back to this notion you have that the GOP is somehow “swift boating” Obama with this tape. The GOP didn’t raise the spectre of this Michelle video. Hillary supporters did via Larry Johnson, your personal buds, at No Quarter. Last month they put out a post calling on all their readers to search for Obama scandals… dirt sleuths.

Now try to connect a few dots for an alternative perspective.

1: Supers can change their mind and throw their votes to Hillary at last minute

2: Hillary is not withdrawing from the race but “suspending” her campaign under the guise of continued fundraising to pay off debts…. while retaining her delegates to the last minute, plus being an inactive, but still on the board candidate who hasn’t quit.

3: Those bringing up the existence of the tape are Hillary supporters. The tape can’t be produced – so they say – which they blame on the evil GOP. This is logical. They can’t produce it on behalf of Hillary themselves or the sleazy political strategy would backfire on Hillary, generating ill will. It has to come from DNC “enemies”, or the GOP – for it to work.

4: Whether the tape exists or not, they can hope it’s merely possible existence is enough to catapult a suspended Hillary back into the nomination, playing on super delegates using fear of losing by the unknown.

What does Hillary have to gain with the whispered scandal and tape? Everything. If it happens before Denver, she can be the nominee. If it happens after Denver, Obama loses to Mac. The DNC will not run him in 2012, but they’ll probably run Hillary. She only has to wait another 4 years.

And what does the GOP have to gain from all this? Nothing. McCain won’t bring it up because he refuses to campaign on this. He can’t have his 527s bring it up because it conflicts with his campaign finance law. He’s managed to handcuff himself in all ways from using this stuff. The GOP will run against either Hillary and her baggage, or Obama and his. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. They both are loaded with garbage.

We all know who Larry Johnson is, so we don’t need his bio from you. If you are his “friend”, then your beef should be with him and his merry band of followers. Frankly, I think they are well within their rights to be utterly incensed. However if the Michelle tape story is a fabrication to achieve their goal, they are the ones doing the “swift boating” to recify a genuine wrong.

The plot of Stephen Frey’s novel “The Power Broker” is remarkably, remarkably similar to this whole “tape” business.

In fact, the book is remarkably similar to Obie’s campaign overall because it too contains a radical pastor, the word “whitey”, and a tape that was discovered and used as blackmail by the competing candidate.

Hmmmmm…..

Lots and lots and lots of coincidences there.

Speaking as an Asian, and given what he went through, I say he can call his captors gook all he wants, and I don’t take it personally one iota. I know he’s not talking about me, any Asian groups, or even Vietnamese in general. If it were me they tortured, I might still use wartime rhetoric in “naming the enemy”. specifically the ones directly involved in my captivity and inhumane treatment of 5-and-a-half years.

“I was referring to my prison guards,” McCain said, “and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends.” McCain made it clear that his anger extends only toward his captors. As a senator, he was one of the leaders of the postwar effort to normalize U.S. relations with Vietnam.

“I will call right now, my interrogator that tortured me, a gook,” McCain said. “(I can’t believe that) anybody doesn’t believe these interrogators and prison guards were cruel and sadistic people who deserve the worst appellations possible.” McCain said he does not consider the comment an epithet.

“Gook,” he said, “is the kindest appellation I can give.”

I like McCain’s “temper”, when it’s directed in the right direction:

Indeed, the trade agreement is the only issue McCain seems fired up about, even on Wednesday as he guides his wife, Cindy, and 13-year-old son, Jack, past shadows of his horrors — a memorial near where his plane was shot down in Truc Bach Lake and through the museum where once stood the Hoa Lo prison camp, commonly known as the “Hanoi Hilton,” where he was held captive. He is denied entry to the other prison camp, called the “Plantation,” where he was held during his five and a half years as a POW.

“That infuriates me,” he says softly to an aide after the Vietnamese army bureaucrats brusquely reject him at the gate. But he is smiling as he says it.

The senator’s chief of staff, Mark Salter, says McCain has rarely come close to losing his temper during his many trips back to Vietnam. There was one time, in the early ’90s, when he and fellow Vietnam veteran Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., witnessed a guard using a bit of force on a prisoner at the Hanoi Hilton, when it was still being used for incarceration.

“Hey!” McCain yelled then. “Remember: ‘Humane and lenient’” — the protocols for treatment of prisoners under the Geneva Convention.

The other time was in ‘91, Salter recalls, when McCain and Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, stopped by the Hanoi Hilton and wandered around outside. A prison guard ran over and started brutally hassling their driver, even getting physical.

“McCain drops his shoulder, storms over and gives him a shove,” Salter says. “He says, ‘What’s your problem, pal?’ And the guard rushed off. He’s spoken angrily in the past, giving one of the ministers a little straight talk about human rights, sure. But those were the only two instances I’ve ever seen when he’s shown a little irritation with anyone in Vietnam. And both of them were specifically when he saw prison guards giving someone a hard time.”

As McCain stands by the memorial of his capture at Truc Bach Lake with Jack and Cindy, he is laughing and smiling, just like any other dad checking out, say, the Liberty Bell. He reads the Vietnamese inscription to “the people’s defense forces” shooting down the “air pirate” named “John Sney Ma Can,” misidentifying the former naval aviator as a member of the U.S. Air Force.

“That’s the greatest insult of all,” he announces.

The statue, which includes a figure of “Ma Can” being dragged out of the water, wasn’t as well tended to the first time he saw it, during his 1985 return with CBS’ Walter Cronkite. “There was grass running up all over it and bird crap everywhere,” McCain notes. Back in the States, a joking reference to its condition to a visiting Vietnamese dignitary later prompted the official to worriedly tell Salter, “I live near there; I can go and clean it up.”

“How far away is the Hanoi Hilton?” McCain is asked.

Just five minutes up the road, McCain says. He points out that, prior to his capture, he attended the military’s “Escape and Evasion” school five different times. “And after all that, they threw me in the back of a truck to a prison five minutes away. A classic waste of the taxpayers’ dollar,” he says.

This is a real nice site with lots of name calling. You people need to chill and accept difference of opinions. I am not going to vote for a known racist and a man who calls his wife a cunt. I don’t care if the was a war hero. Racial slurs is not PC. I do not want that in a president. I believe the Republican party is racist too. As far as a tape goes for Mrs. Obama. I don’t give a f–k if she said whitey. I hear white people say that word. It just like the n-word younger generation use. It’s not right but some people use it. For the most part blacks don’t go around saying whitey. I might say cracka or honky but not whitey. That shows me it’s a hoax and someone playing on her words to make it sound like whitey. Most white men do stuff in the dark. They don’t want to be seen in the light. White men like black , Asian and other women of color. I am not surprise to find McCain like so called gooks coochie. I heard McCain second wife had a drug problem with cocaine or something like that. These people are no angels or the Clintons I am so tired of Hillary and John’s supporters calling Obama’s supporter a cult. You guys are a cult with all the made up name for Obama. I don’t give a f–k about operation chaos. Why do cons have to do stupid sh8t like that vote for Hillary? That some white stupid sh*t. You say you are the better party but have to stooped so low with fear and hate tactics. No way in hell will I ever believe the Project for Excellence in Journalism for Fox Racist News. I feel people who listen to this racist crap Don Immus, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck etc, etc are racist assholes. Back to the topic If there is a tape, I want to hear about it on major news stations not just a rumor and hearsay on the net.

23 year old black undecided independent voter

1) The tape doesn’t exist. If it did the Obama campaign would have leaked it already.

2) Black people can’t be racist and I think MOST white people are falsely labeled as racist. Racism is a system of privilege (something black people don’t have). People have different experiences with different races and it unfortunately garners hostile feelings towards the whole race. EVERYONE says racially insensitive remarks but that doesn’t equate to being a racist.

3) An educated person should only watch FOX for comic relief

4) Obama seriously worries me. All of his plans and initiatives will increase spending but I’ve yet to hear how he is going to cure the economy. We don’t need another term of empty promises. I don’t know about McCain either. He is definitely no Bush, but is he a liberal or a conservative? I sure as hell can’t tell. I really don’t even know what he stands for. IMO Obama talks too much and McCain doesn’t say enough. I’m waiting to decide because I will only vote for the candidate with the best economic and educational policies, and right now I can’t tell you who that is.

5) A lot of white people don’t understand what Obama means for black people. I grew up in a predominantly black and Hispanic neighborhood and went to a high school of 5000 people in Texas. I was the only black person to go to either UT or A&M (I chose UT of course). In all my AP classes I was one of 2 black people. That is pretty sad. Until now black people haven’t had much hope. We are just crabs in a barrel. We think the only way to advance in the world is to do so at the expense of our race. Obama stands for the leaps and bounds this great country has made post slavery. If a black man can be president, maybe black people can wake up and realize, no matter the circumstances, our race doesn’t predefine our future and you can live the “American Dream” no matter what race you are.

6) HRC supporters seriously disgust me. The differences between HRC and Obama are cosmetic. But yet you would vote for McCain out of spite? Makes no sense. But if she is Obama’s running mate, now its alright to vote for Obama? Hypocrisy at its finest.

Elitism is not a valid part of our foundation

I agree. It is not valid but it is for sure part of our history. The electoral college wasn’t established for nothing. People call Obama an elitist but so are most politicians. Doesn’t really make him any better or worse of a candidate.

Larry Elder’s column is okay, but I think he is marginalizing Obama’s accomplishment. It is much bigger than anything he has listed or anything he can think of another black person doing. But what else would you expect, it’s Larry Elder.

Yes black people are making many strides but it isn’t about isolated incidents, It’s about that group as a whole. (He says 80% are above that poverty line. What the hell does that mean? With rising gas and food prices being right above the poverty line doesn’t mean much. Shit, it has never much. I laughed when I read that. “Congrats black America, you can feed yourself!”)

the black community does not hold a monopoly on 20th century and earlier oppression. Women did not get the vote much earlier. And actually, after the Civil War, blacks were granted citizenships where women were not.

True but women and immigrants weren’t segregated. Nor were they sprayed with water hoses. Nor were the attacked by police dogs. Black people had to literally fight for their rights. Please don’t compare black oppression to that of immigrants and women. Please.

However they did not let it deter their dreams in the slightest, lived fabulous lives and were owners of modest businesses.

And this is the harvest of slavery. I’m going somewhat come clean. I’m really Nigerian-American. Meaning I was born here but my parents are Nigerian immigrants. Anyone who knows anything about African immigrants can tell you they are closer to Asian immigrants than to black Americans. It’s not even close. Work ethic, values, etc. I am a strong believer in a person being a product of their environment. That being said black people aren’t behind in this country because they are lazy or because they are stupid. If you think that you are ignorant (not racist though). They are that way because the foundation of their culture (and it isn’t African culture cause African people and black people are different) is based on oppression, and because of that there aren’t that many things around telling them they can hope for a better future. Immigrants come to this country with the hope of making a better life for themselves. What is a person without hope? It may seem moot to more educated people like you, but to a person in that environment it means the world. That why education is so important to me. Educating black people to what they can become instead of what they were and what they are is they only way to cure this problem.

Like I said, If Senator Obama or Senator McCain don’t have a good plan for our economy and educational systems, neither of them deserve to be president.

Sorry for the long-windedness.

Victor,

I’m glad you have decided to spend some time reading and discussing things with us here.

You make some very good points and bring a bit of a different perspective to the discussions.

I do have to disagree with you here however:

Black people can’t be racist

Any human being, regardless of their skin color or racial makeup can indeed be racist.

We’ve seen racially motivated horrors throughout history and, unfortunately, every race has been guilty at some point.

great American Resume

That’s funny. What does BHO bring to the table other than a speech he made at a Dim Convention?

We may not know all there is to know about BO.

We agree on that one. I do, however, know enough about both of them to know which one should be avoided.

But we do know McCain has’nt lead anything but the pledge to the flag in all of his 70+ years.

You would benefit from a review of his extensive record of both military and public service. In a parallel vein, would you mind expounding on what BHO has accomplished please?

If the Richest Man In the World is , drives “93″ Volvo , and lives in the same house he purchased 40 years ago thinks Obama’s a good bet . You might want to “get in on it”

No, not so much.

I prefer not to follow along.

Obama , great American Resume and he may need a little magic to Lead America in a new direction.

He’ll need a boatload more than “magic” to lead me, Rentamob…. I guarantee you, I will go kicking, screaming, biting and fighting into that gentle Marxist night.

…. or would that be “rage… rage against the dying of the” right.

I think all of this is garbage and whites are just scare of a black man becoming president. I know whites are scare because of all the dirt they have done to blacks and other people of color over the years. I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE NAME CALLING. Why can’t people post their comments without people attacking them and calling them names. Yes. I am Democrat and believe GOP is racist and hateful party. This is a lie on Mrs. Obama. No body say “whitey’ anymore. Frankly I am really scare of some of the people on here voting. You are calling the Obamas racist but yet voting for a racist McKlan. That doesn’t make sense. I guess it will because he’s WHITE!

I am so sick and tired of white Democrats saying that they will not vote for Senator Obama if HRC is not the VP. Good don’t vote. Hillary and her supporters are very mean and disrespectful to Senator Obama. Hillary implied she wanted him assassinated. You gurl lost. It’s time to move forward to beat McCain oops I mean McKlan. If you don’t want to be apart of that,step off. History is about to be made! I think Obama is expanding his voting base anyway. He ahead in the polls over McCain. I hope and pray Latinos and other minorities will not be fools as vote for a known racist. If you want to switch party and vote for that racist McKlan and continue to kill our troops. That’s something you are going to have to live with. I don’t want four more years of hell and hard times of the failed Bush Administration. Frankly I think Obama will be better off with some of the racist bigot people on this site. Just like most of Hillary’s supporters are so racist. How the hell they are going to vote for McKlan and he’s the complete opposite of what Obama and Clinton stands for. It’s because he’s white.

Juanita said:

I don’t want four more years of hell and hard times of the failed Bush Administration.

And I don’t want a second term of Jimmah Carter, Juanita. Believe me, I’m not thrilled with McCain. But I’m considerably less thrilled with BHO’s plans for this nation.

Frankly I think Obama will be better off with some of the racist bigot people on this site. Just like most of Hillary’s supporters are so racist. How the hell they are going to vote for McKlan and he’s the complete opposite of what Obama and Clinton stands for. It’s because he’s white.

If you’d stop thinking black and white for a change, and start thinking policies, you’d realize that there are two reasons the majority of McCain voters will choose him over Obama…

1: They either don’t want to go the socialist route in our government, or
2: HRC supporters don’t want BHO to win so she can run in 2012

Most of the commenters on FA have specificially stated they are unenthused with Obama for radical associations, questionable judgment, his lack of will to confront the global Islamic jihad movement in the world, his penchant for defeat in Iraq, his inexperience, and sundry other reasons. I have seen NOT ONE PERSON on this site who has stated he doesn’t like Obama because he’s black.

I swear, Juanita. When I see your name pop up, I really try to ignore you. But you are so blatantly hostile and abusive, it’s difficult for me to hold my tongue. So I suggest, while you’re spewing the charges of “bigot people on this site” and “McKlan” you may want to have a good look in the mirror to see what a racist actually looks like.

But if you’d like to actually be productive, why not take your bigoted hate rant over to No Quarter and try out your race tirade there? It appears it is the Hillary supporters with whom you have your biggest beef. You’ll find few of your targeted group here. But you can be sure, the No Quarter posters will chew you up, and spit you out like cheap baloney.

Anyone else notice that there will be a full moon tomorrow night?

# 85

Why do you think I am white?
Why do you think I am a Democrat?

There is a distinct difference between “responsibility” and “mandates”, Mike’sA. Much as I’d love to have an idiot test as a prerequisite for voting, it cannot happen. Even citizens a step below human amoeba have voting rights.

However it is our responsibility to safeguard our freedoms. And part of that responsibility is making informed choices for our future. Otherwise we pay dearly for the irresponsibility.

We can only hope that the reponsible outweigh the Juanita’s of the world. But with the successfull dumbing down of America by the public education system the past few decades, that ratio is likely to change in favor of those that want socialist programs to pay for their lives from cradle to grave.

I, however, (or my ashes, at least) will have long been sprinkled across this beautiful country. At least I hope.

No I don’t remember Carter administration.

That explains a lot.

I am living in the president

You’re living “in the president”? Like a demon?

Let me call a priest.

I think anything can be better than Bush and McCain.

That’s because you don’t remember the Carter administration.

Actually 61% of Sen. Clinton’s supporters are planning to vote for Obama. (NBC/WSJ Poll) That less than two weeks after she suspended her campaign.

You can agree to disagree in a calm matter.

Considering the incoherence, racism, profanity, insult and invective hurling you’ve engaged in on this thread alone you should take your own advice.

I’m going to take great pleasure in canceling out your vote in November.

I’ll think of you fondly as I cast my ballot.

You can kiss my asz while your casing you vote too!!!

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!

I guess you are one of a whole lot of white folks mad at Obama!!!!

Another presumptive assumption from Juanita.

I’m not angry at Obie.

I find him totally unqualified to be President based not only on his lack of experience, but also based on his policies, which will be horrible for the future of our nation.

In summary, I find him to be an empty suit.

Juanita, “my dear”. I’m going to assume that even tho you lack historic perspective, you can count. So my posts here are #31, 35, 37, 52, 57, 63, 66, 75, 77, 82, 88. Feel free to cut and paste any “racist rant” or “spewing hatred” I have done as an example to your accusation.

Now, a few lessons for you.

1: Slavery has nothing to do with your 1st amendment rights

2: Your 1st amendment rights do not protect you from repercussions of exercising your 1st amendment rights. Therefore your statement: I should be able to post my opinion without getting attack by the likes of you has no bearing in reality.

This is just further indicative of your lack of historical perspective and educational black hole. There is nothing wrong with being uneducated. But remaining so deliberately and stubbornly is irresponsible and distinctly lacking in respect for your Constitutionally granted right to vote.

3: If you don’t know what the 1st amendment is, you are long overdue in your reading. Start now. I’m not explaining it to you.

4: No Quarter is the blog of former CIA’s Larry Johnson…. (in “red” means it’s a hotlink… click on it and READ)… and since you are blissfully unaware, it was Larry Johnson and his liberal Hillary posters that begat, and perpetuated, the “whitey tape” rumor. That means this racism you detest and rail about here on FA actually originated with your own party and THEIR blogs. But so convenient to blame the GOP, right?. Facts sure can get in the way. At least when you know some facts.

While you’re at it, wander over to HuffPo, another liberal Obama site, and start reading their comments and posts. Then get back to us on how racist and vile we are. We look like prozac nation here by comparison.

5: My bio is available by clicking on the “Authors” tab across the top of this site. Plus if you had a lick of 20th century military history under your belt, you might recognize that MataHarley is a take off or Mata Hari. Want to know? Go read.

6: EVERYONE is a “person of color”. I am pretty darned sure that no one walks around opaque or completely transparent. But I and my multicultural friends don’t walk around thinking what color we are. We think about *who* we are. Your problem is you always dwell on color/race, etc. As long as you do that, you will feel abused, victimized, and be racist in your own thoughts.

And speaking of transparent, you might want to get your boy, Obama, on being more transparent about his socialism/Marxist policies. Either you support socialism/Marxism yourself, or you are unaware that is his “cure”. But just be sure what you’re voting for when you vote by learning something… anything… inbetween now and November.

Billary bet not try to run in 2012.

Taking a wild guess, is this Juanita – that non-racist sweet and innocent poster without a bone of hate in her body – suggesting Hillary “better not” make a 2012 run for the WH???

Or is she just comfortable with Obama’s Chicago style politics, as he demonstrated to Lieberman on the Senate floor?

Take it anyway you want it, baby!!! Hey I am woman enough to admit yes I have some racist view but don’t we all. I can’t stop anyone from getting a job, better housing, medial care or police protection. Black people go through these things every day simple because of the color of our skin. A single mother getting shot with a two year old in her arms. I am assuming you are white and don’t have to worry about that shyt.

Classy? How about kiss my booty?

I am gong to take the high road

Snicker. It’s more than a bit late for that now.

yes I have some racist view but don’t we all

No, we’re not all like you Juanita.

YOU ARE LYING!!!!!!!!

Really?

I can prove you’re racist just by using your own words.

You have only your false accusations to hurl at me.

MY RACIST VIEW DOES NOT EXTEND TO THE KKK

That’s good Juanita.

That’s something to be proud of as you vote for the Democrats. The same Democrats which have embraced the Senator from West Virginia.

Did you know he was a Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops in the KKK you so often reference?

Probably not.

Also, did you know that the Democrat party slaved and toiled day and night and night and day to block Civil Rights legislation that finally passed because the Republicans pushed it?

No?

Not surprised.

Ever hear of Bull Connor?

How about Herman Talmadge? Richard Russell, Jr.?

I could go on and on but it wouldn’t really matter.

Just remember that you should know the history of the Democrat party you so eagerly support before you start slinging poo at the others hoping something will stick.

You are trying to tag-team me?

You’re not being tag teamed. But along that line, I will ask you a question. Where are the rules that say that only one person can respond to your posts?

Do you think that you get to pick and choose who you want to have type a response to your inanities?

Sorry, there aren’t any rules to that effect and you don’t get to make that decision.

It’s really quite simple: If you don’t like having multiple people respond then don’t post here. Go someplace where you’ll be more comfortable or stay here and enjoy our company.

Let people post their opinions and not take it so personally.

I have no problem with you posting your opinion. You’re more than welcome to do that. You, on the other hand, take it personally when your opinion is examined and, rather quickly and handily, proven wrong.

Baby, I don’t want anyone to be like me.

You certainly won’t have to worry about that here.

Not by any means. You are most definitely off by yourself.

Jaz, you not only suffer from a reading comprehension problem, you keep missing those lily pads when leaping to your next conclusion.

I think EVERYONE has a right to his/her opinion without being attack. If you’re new to this site or an older timer, show some respect!!!! I think the name calling McSame, McKlan, Obi, Obummi etc. is childish. I think most whites are just scare to have a strong and intelligent black man in the highest most powerful position of the United States. Whites think that black will be mean and cruel to whites like whites where to blacks. So many whites are scare and have fear but black people are not like that. Life will go on. I think Obama should be racist against them because so many have hate for him because he’s half black. During this election we will really see people true racist colors. Obama is the voice of change. A change is going to come… Another poll came out today and Obama will beat McCain in Ohio Obama 47% to McCain and Florida Obama 48% to McCain 42%. I couldn’t get the number for PA but I think on TV they said Obama had a 12 pt lead. I know the election is five months but these polls numbers look good today. I remember another poll that said 81% of Americans feel the nation is headed in the wrong direction. We had Bush for 8 years. We need something better. I am putting my money on Obama.

THE WHITEY TAPE. I don’t believe there a tape. I think it a bunch of crap. If there was one, Fox News who hate black people and the Clinton Machine would have use it already. Who the hell says whitey” anyone? Sounds like an In Living Color sketch.

I think whites are just scare to have a strong, intelligent black man in the highest most powerful position of the United States

Wow, I didn’t even know that Michael Steele was even running, but if I can find his name on the ballot I will vote for him.

I think Obama should be racist against them because so many have hate for him because he’s half black.

Hmmmm…..

Two wrongs make a right in your mind I guess although you have shown no proof of hate toward Obama because of his race.

By the way, Obama is not half black. He’s 6.25% black, 43.75% Arabic, and 50% Caucasian.

During this election we will really see people true racist colors.

You’re right. we’re seeing it right here on this thread every day. Between you, jaz, and Juanita, the three of you have cornered the market on racism for this site.

We need something better.

Something we can agree on, that’s why Obama will never get my vote.

Too bad Martin Luther King Jr’s dream hasn’t come true, yet. We are still judge by the color of our skin.

Actually, I am using your words here to judge you based on the content of your character.

I wouldn’t have known the color of your skin if you hadn’t told me.

**

I sure hope you have more fun to work ration in your life, guy.

Mata, in many ways my life is perfect. I am fortunate that I have a great balance of all things.

I live in the greatest country on the face of this planet.

I have a wife that I adore (always), and my wife adores me (usually).

We have three wonderful children who will hopefully grow up to fulfill all of the dreams and aspirations that they have for themselves.

I love my job.

Life is good.

I couldn’t possibly ask for anything more and you know what? I didn’t need anyone to give it to me or to do it for me.

My wife and I did it for ourselves.

BTW, Aye Chi. Jaz and “newnew” are the same person. Or as he/she says, “Some people are weired like that.”

Oh wait… this gets better. Juanita is Jaz AND newnew. I guess we’re being “tag teamed” by her many personalities….LOL

LOL… benefits of being an FA author, Aye Chi. But then, since we are one and the same, how come you didn’t know that???

Really now, Juanita… a 4th personality for you?

Listen girl, just let this old thread go. There’s really no one here that believes a tape exists anyway. Most of us just can’t stand your guy because we don’t like his socialist policies…. even were he snow white. Period. You were, and still are, barking up the wrong tree.

Dang, Curt… either I have a math problem, or I just didn’t use the search functions to it’s fullest. :0)

’tis kinda sad. Then again, hard to want to reach out to someone so danged abusive, and thinks life is a one way street…. always in her direction, eh?

No I don’t know how to look up someone IP address. I bet all of you guys are the same. If not, I don’t give a fuck. Obviously you did because you went at look up the IP. That’s white shyt right there. What sick fuckers? That’s what white people do. Black people don’t do shyt that like. You can’t handle the debate, so you have to go look at my IP. You can put you Lilly white lips on any motherfuc*in personality kiss my behind. Any who!! My two cents is. I think the whitey tape is fake. If there one, bring it on. Like I said before most blacks I know don’t say “whitey” unless that something whites say around each other. No one say whitey anymore that like back in 70s or a Livng Color sketch. I can see this is the GOP enemy camp. Go on and continue your KKK message and hate speech for the Obamas. Kiss my asz. You bitches and male whores!!! I will be glad to say President Obama in 2009. If he doesn’t win, it will be because of racist fucks like you and America has a racist heart! You rather have a third term of failed Bush policies, over 4,000 solders died for nothing, home closures, job loss, recession and 47 millions Americans with no health care than have a qualified black man for president. You will vote for a old asz racist like McKlan. I know you are scare and have fear in your heart. Most of you won’t admit to that. You still think you are superior and feel entitle over blacks/other minorities that mean anyone that is non white. So Asians, Latinos, Arabs etc. Don’t get it twisted. You want white supremacy to continue. I bet you fuckers really dread black history month. I think this is long overdue. I watch this race closely, more so because of the Historic implication involved. I want Senator Obama to win. Not because he’s black but because he represents the face of change. We’ve been locked into years of old farts, promising much and delivering little. Young, fresh ideas are pivotal for this day and age and that’s what Senator Obama brings to the table. Just vote and STFU! Bye bitches!!!

KISS MY ASS AND GO TO HELL!

There you go again, Aye Chi… feeding the dang pigeons as da sheeeeet builds up around us!

I believe that the Michelle Obama tape exists and that both unidentified liberals and conservatives have seen and heard that tape. Conservatives will use it in September or October and the liberals are hoping that it will not diminish Obama’s poll numbers and that the conservatives are just sabre waving. Liberals who may have it certainly would not release it and have probably destroyed it for political reasons. However, the conservatives have it in safe keeping.
I believe that the tape most likely exists because Michelle has been placed in time and location at the event that the ranting and raving has occured. Photos and schedule of speakers prove this point. The content of her college thesis adds to the belief that she could have said these remarks. The remarks occured prior to her husbands significant rise in the political arena. The remarks occured in a location that would have been most conducive to her ranting and raving. There is a lack of an adamant denial by her husband that these remarks had been said by her. There is the immediate appearance of a website by Barack Obama’s campaign to stop the smear of Michelle Obama. Evidently, this may be viewed as a paltry attempt to diminish the effect of the eventual release of the tape. Most have noticed the limited exposure of Michelle in the media since the release of the tape rumor as opposed to her very apparent media exposure prior to the rumor. Why ?
The polls show Obama slightly ahead and it appears that some Republican analysts are not very concerned. Maybe they are fully aware of the “October suprise”.
It is possible that disgruntled democrats or independents may have the tape.
Odds favor the existence of the tape. Time will tell all. It is certainly beleivable.

Where is the tape, guys?

I agree VITA. 100%

A question to ponder… So do you think that white men came to Africa and though…. Huh look at the color of this people, they are black, let’s slave ‘em!!! REALLY? Or was it that the white took advantage of “man power” through an ALREADY oppressed people? Let’s not forget Rwanda… Blacks killing “blackers” still in a racist rage. Who made this about the color of their skin? Perhaps blacks missed the point from day ONE. How come you don’t see Native Americans making so many remarks about what the color of their skin look like? How did their browness made them oppressed? The history is pavemented by blood, and blood is RED, no matter what color your skin is. And for most… I am SO tired of black people looking for some kind of special treatment to compassionate for their great-great-grandparents sufferings, as yet, them as a race needs to mature and take some responsibilities. True emancipation comes from taking responsibilities. Race, cultures, religions have been oppressed not for the color of their skin but for misuse of power…. Mind you…. Jews have white skin, so do Germans.. Japanese and Koreans have “yellow” skin… and they still have oppressed each other for centuries. Not to mention Latin wars and conflicts. Arabic wars amongst themselves… My point is…It is time to move forward, take responsibilities and learn, any one can be racist and if they dig deep enough through history they will find all justifications for their “WHYS” add a bit of anger and there you have it, a whole new race that could be called “MULTISKIN COLORED” renegades. Now we are talking… The root of the problem my friends…

To VITA:

You mention Rwanda but do you realize the Belgium basically created their present day Civil Wars. So yes they did make it about the color of their skin. A lot of the problems in Africa are a result of Western countries sticking different ethnic groups together and telling them to coexist. Africa is composed of 5 times as many ethnic groups than there are countries, and even some countries are composed of Ethnic groups that have historically hated each other.

I’d rather not get into a Race in America debate with you but just know that people are a product of their environment. And you are dead wrong, when you say black people are looking for special treatment. You obviously haven’t spoken with many black people, because most black want what the rest of America wants – the American Dream. If getting “special treatment” doesn’t improve your quality of life then who cares?

I have no idea where you are getting your information from, but I am going to take a wild guess and say you made it up. Nice try though.

Well…we’re still waiting. Where’s the whitey tape? LOL