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	<title>Comments on: San Francisco/San FranSicko a Decaying American City &#8211; Masturbate-a-Thon [Reader Post]</title>
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		<title>By: Saul Goode</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-79718</link>
		<dc:creator>Saul Goode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The really funny thing is that San Franciscans think themselves to be so hip, so post-modern, so sophisticated, and so above moral restraints.

The rest of the country just thinks they&#039;re idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The really funny thing is that San Franciscans think themselves to be so hip, so post-modern, so sophisticated, and so above moral restraints.</p>
<p>The rest of the country just thinks they&#8217;re idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-76439</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;sure looks like that bbartlog is the minority&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, I&#039;m used to it (at least in regards to this blog). 

&lt;i&gt;hat’s why when San Francisco suffers a serious natural disaster such as an earthquake. I do not believe that America will be there whole heartedly to bail them out financially.&lt;/i&gt;

But if they were upstanding and righteous citizens like those of (say) Salt Lake City, then we would open our hearts and pocketbooks to help them? I have a little more faith in American charity than that; we help all sorts of people who may or may not deserve it. In any case I&#039;m not sure why you bring natural disasters into it. I can&#039;t tell whether you&#039;re reaching to find a way that their behavior will redound to their detriment, or secretly wishing that some disaster would smite their den of iniquity, or alluding to biblical beliefs about Sodom and Gomorrah.

&lt;i&gt;I guess when any opposing views that people don’t like to read coming from posters, then the English language is always questioned when they have nothing sensible to say about the conversation.&lt;/i&gt;

Needling people about their misuse of language is just a hobby of mine, don&#039;t take it too personally. I may get myself banned here yet if I don&#039;t watch out. I did actually say a few other things as regards your post, though perhaps they didn&#039;t seem sensible to you. In particular you haven&#039;t explained why anyone should be &#039;extremely alarmed and concerned&#039; about this. We have a pretty good plate of problems to deal with already between inflation, terrorism, budget deficits, and illegal immigration (just to name a few). It isn&#039;t clear why I should treat this freakshow as anything other than a reason to roll my eyes at the crazy SF gays/liberals. 

&lt;i&gt;It’s a reap what you sow kind of thing for San Francisco&lt;/i&gt;

That would make sense if they were sowing little earthquakes? How the hell is it a &#039;reap what you sow&#039; kind of thing? You really, really want to believe they&#039;re doing harm here, but you haven&#039;t shown it.

&lt;i&gt;relatively harmless”?? Surely you jest.&lt;/i&gt;

No, not joking. I could actually make an argument for why this might not be such a good thing, but I don&#039;t feel like arguing against myself when no one here has done anything more than advance an argument based on personal disgust. 

&lt;i&gt;What if I’m not aware of this and happen upon it with my children?&lt;/i&gt;

The photo of the Castro Street Fair might have misled you into thinking this was a public event, but based on the fact that they seem to be charging admission, and have separate areas for men/women/mixed, it sounds like this is not happening in public where anyone could happen on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>sure looks like that bbartlog is the minority</i></p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m used to it (at least in regards to this blog). </p>
<p><i>hat’s why when San Francisco suffers a serious natural disaster such as an earthquake. I do not believe that America will be there whole heartedly to bail them out financially.</i></p>
<p>But if they were upstanding and righteous citizens like those of (say) Salt Lake City, then we would open our hearts and pocketbooks to help them? I have a little more faith in American charity than that; we help all sorts of people who may or may not deserve it. In any case I&#8217;m not sure why you bring natural disasters into it. I can&#8217;t tell whether you&#8217;re reaching to find a way that their behavior will redound to their detriment, or secretly wishing that some disaster would smite their den of iniquity, or alluding to biblical beliefs about Sodom and Gomorrah.</p>
<p><i>I guess when any opposing views that people don’t like to read coming from posters, then the English language is always questioned when they have nothing sensible to say about the conversation.</i></p>
<p>Needling people about their misuse of language is just a hobby of mine, don&#8217;t take it too personally. I may get myself banned here yet if I don&#8217;t watch out. I did actually say a few other things as regards your post, though perhaps they didn&#8217;t seem sensible to you. In particular you haven&#8217;t explained why anyone should be &#8216;extremely alarmed and concerned&#8217; about this. We have a pretty good plate of problems to deal with already between inflation, terrorism, budget deficits, and illegal immigration (just to name a few). It isn&#8217;t clear why I should treat this freakshow as anything other than a reason to roll my eyes at the crazy SF gays/liberals. </p>
<p><i>It’s a reap what you sow kind of thing for San Francisco</i></p>
<p>That would make sense if they were sowing little earthquakes? How the hell is it a &#8216;reap what you sow&#8217; kind of thing? You really, really want to believe they&#8217;re doing harm here, but you haven&#8217;t shown it.</p>
<p><i>relatively harmless”?? Surely you jest.</i></p>
<p>No, not joking. I could actually make an argument for why this might not be such a good thing, but I don&#8217;t feel like arguing against myself when no one here has done anything more than advance an argument based on personal disgust. </p>
<p><i>What if I’m not aware of this and happen upon it with my children?</i></p>
<p>The photo of the Castro Street Fair might have misled you into thinking this was a public event, but based on the fact that they seem to be charging admission, and have separate areas for men/women/mixed, it sounds like this is not happening in public where anyone could happen on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Chamot</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-75327</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Chamot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate all of your comments here.  It sure looks like that bbartlog is the minority here over the majorities that do believe that these kinds of social behaviors are totally wrong in any American city.

That&#039;s why when San Francisco suffers a serious natural disaster such as an earthquake.  I do not believe that America will be there whole heartedly to bail them out financially.

It&#039;s a reap what you sow kind of thing for San Francisco... Just my opinion.

to bbartlog: I guess when any opposing views that people don’t like to read coming from posters, then the English language is always questioned when they have nothing sensible to say about the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate all of your comments here.  It sure looks like that bbartlog is the minority here over the majorities that do believe that these kinds of social behaviors are totally wrong in any American city.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why when San Francisco suffers a serious natural disaster such as an earthquake.  I do not believe that America will be there whole heartedly to bail them out financially.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a reap what you sow kind of thing for San Francisco&#8230; Just my opinion.</p>
<p>to bbartlog: I guess when any opposing views that people don’t like to read coming from posters, then the English language is always questioned when they have nothing sensible to say about the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-75306</link>
		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa bbartlog, that&#039;s a whole lotta rationalization going on there. &quot;...relatively harmless&quot;?? Surely you jest. And why should I have to avoid disgusting behavior in the city where I live? What if I&#039;m not aware of this and happen upon it with my children?

But you are right about one thing and that&#039;s there is no way I would live in this shithole. I stopped visiting this beautiful city in the late 70s when men giving men blowjobs in public was just too much for me-yeah I saw it-but hey that&#039;s just me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa bbartlog, that&#8217;s a whole lotta rationalization going on there. &#8220;&#8230;relatively harmless&#8221;?? Surely you jest. And why should I have to avoid disgusting behavior in the city where I live? What if I&#8217;m not aware of this and happen upon it with my children?</p>
<p>But you are right about one thing and that&#8217;s there is no way I would live in this shithole. I stopped visiting this beautiful city in the late 70s when men giving men blowjobs in public was just too much for me-yeah I saw it-but hey that&#8217;s just me</p>
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		<title>By: Thomnj</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-75237</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomnj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEVENTH (?) annual - sounds like any public decency has been long gone from that place.  With their annual street festival and this one, they can start adding new festivals in order that every month they will have a reason to commit to perverted and socially unacceptable &quot;for polite company&quot; acts....maybe the Ronulans can build their gated commmunites around the city and wall it off from the rest of us....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEVENTH (?) annual &#8211; sounds like any public decency has been long gone from that place.  With their annual street festival and this one, they can start adding new festivals in order that every month they will have a reason to commit to perverted and socially unacceptable &#8220;for polite company&#8221; acts&#8230;.maybe the Ronulans can build their gated commmunites around the city and wall it off from the rest of us&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm Room &#187; History repeats itself</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm Room &#187; History repeats itself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] venerable Bay to Breakers race has become (here, here and here), Danny Lemieux sent me a link to a post article about one of San Francisco&#8217;s other bids for most debauched City in the Weste.... This time, it&#8217;s about San Francisco&#8217;s annual Masturbate-a-thon: May 23, 2008 Your [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] venerable Bay to Breakers race has become (here, here and here), Danny Lemieux sent me a link to a post article about one of San Francisco&#8217;s other bids for most debauched City in the Weste&#8230;. This time, it&#8217;s about San Francisco&#8217;s annual Masturbate-a-thon: May 23, 2008 Your [...]</p>
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		<title>By: native</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-74978</link>
		<dc:creator>native</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is what happens when the democrats have unchecked power.  SF is completly democrat, is this the kind of country you want for your kids?  vote McCain for family values or democrat for a country just like SF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is what happens when the democrats have unchecked power.  SF is completly democrat, is this the kind of country you want for your kids?  vote McCain for family values or democrat for a country just like SF.</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-74973</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That’s why the rest of America has real apathy for that city and its inhabitants.&lt;/i&gt;

Hence the tepid housing market. No, wait - housing prices in San Francisco are as high as ever(*). The rest of America is still (on balance) enthusiastic about San Francisco.

&lt;i&gt;At what point do we Conservatives just throw our hands up and move OUT of places like this&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m sure a lot of conservatives already have! But even those that still live there can probably avoid this event without any difficulty whatever.

&lt;i&gt;I really feel sorry for the few citizenries there who are horridly dismayed&lt;/i&gt;

I feel sorry for the few citizenries who are horridly dismayed by your inelegant use of language, but hey that&#039;s just me.

&lt;i&gt;the dangers in having liberals and leftists running any city and even the country.&lt;/i&gt;

The danger is to our pocketbooks. This on the other hand is freakish, but relatively harmless.

&lt;i&gt;Moderates, conservatives and the right should be extremely alarmed and concerned about these kinds of unsavory behaviors allowed by out of control left wing politicians.&lt;/i&gt;

Why? You throw out a lot of adjectives (&#039;perverted&#039;, &#039;sickos&#039;, &#039;decayed&#039;, &#039;unsavory&#039;), but only briefly touch on anything resembling an actual reason to stop this stuff (&#039;How can anyone bring up children ...&#039;). Mostly this amounts to an argument based on personal disgust. And it sounds to me like anyone who finds this event unsavory (which I imagine would be most people) can easily *not go to it*, since it doesn&#039;t sound like they&#039;re going to be running wild down all the streets of the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That’s why the rest of America has real apathy for that city and its inhabitants.</i></p>
<p>Hence the tepid housing market. No, wait &#8211; housing prices in San Francisco are as high as ever(*). The rest of America is still (on balance) enthusiastic about San Francisco.</p>
<p><i>At what point do we Conservatives just throw our hands up and move OUT of places like this</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure a lot of conservatives already have! But even those that still live there can probably avoid this event without any difficulty whatever.</p>
<p><i>I really feel sorry for the few citizenries there who are horridly dismayed</i></p>
<p>I feel sorry for the few citizenries who are horridly dismayed by your inelegant use of language, but hey that&#8217;s just me.</p>
<p><i>the dangers in having liberals and leftists running any city and even the country.</i></p>
<p>The danger is to our pocketbooks. This on the other hand is freakish, but relatively harmless.</p>
<p><i>Moderates, conservatives and the right should be extremely alarmed and concerned about these kinds of unsavory behaviors allowed by out of control left wing politicians.</i></p>
<p>Why? You throw out a lot of adjectives (&#8217;perverted&#8217;, &#8217;sickos&#8217;, &#8216;decayed&#8217;, &#8216;unsavory&#8217;), but only briefly touch on anything resembling an actual reason to stop this stuff (&#8217;How can anyone bring up children &#8230;&#8217;). Mostly this amounts to an argument based on personal disgust. And it sounds to me like anyone who finds this event unsavory (which I imagine would be most people) can easily *not go to it*, since it doesn&#8217;t sound like they&#8217;re going to be running wild down all the streets of the city.</p>
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		<title>By: Wearyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wearyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At what point do we Conservatives just throw our hands up and move OUT of places like this?  Just leave San Freaksisco to the loony lefties and perverts.  Move all the good, middle and conservative Americans back a good 100 miles,  San Fran is a lost cause.  Let the gays and pervs have it.  Better to have them all in one place than spreading their cultural poison all through the country.

Can we wall the place off too?  Just create a special district for them.  Then they can culturally experiment all they like, and we can sit back and watch the chaos.  Just don&#039;t allow any children under 18 in.  We don&#039;t need any additional cultural casualties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what point do we Conservatives just throw our hands up and move OUT of places like this?  Just leave San Freaksisco to the loony lefties and perverts.  Move all the good, middle and conservative Americans back a good 100 miles,  San Fran is a lost cause.  Let the gays and pervs have it.  Better to have them all in one place than spreading their cultural poison all through the country.</p>
<p>Can we wall the place off too?  Just create a special district for them.  Then they can culturally experiment all they like, and we can sit back and watch the chaos.  Just don&#8217;t allow any children under 18 in.  We don&#8217;t need any additional cultural casualties.</p>
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		<title>By: Fasternu426</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-74845</link>
		<dc:creator>Fasternu426</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;seventh annual Masturbate-a-Thon&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Geez! Seven years! And it&#039;s for &quot;charity&quot;. Go figger...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>seventh annual Masturbate-a-Thon</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Geez! Seven years! And it&#8217;s for &#8220;charity&#8221;. Go figger&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-74809</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d hate to see innocents hurt, but such perverse debauchery makes one long for pinpoint natural disasters. . . . .starting with the elected officials of that state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d hate to see innocents hurt, but such perverse debauchery makes one long for pinpoint natural disasters. . . . .starting with the elected officials of that state.</p>
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		<title>By: Moody Deep Thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moody Deep Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gives a whole new meaning and urgency to waiting for the &quot;big one&quot; in San Fran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gives a whole new meaning and urgency to waiting for the &#8220;big one&#8221; in San Fran.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-74458</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this for real?  Even in San Francisco this is illegal.  Is there no one to stand up for common decency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this for real?  Even in San Francisco this is illegal.  Is there no one to stand up for common decency?</p>
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		<title>By: M. Murcek</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/27/san-franciscosan-fransicko-a-decaying-american-city-a-sick-and-perverted-american-city-can-you-believe-a-masturbate-a-thon/#comment-74451</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Murcek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modern day Sodom.  I hope Lot&#039;s wife doesn&#039;t look back this time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern day Sodom.  I hope Lot&#8217;s wife doesn&#8217;t look back this time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robriefs 5.27.2008 &#171; Under The Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robriefs 5.27.2008 &#171; Under The Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mecca?  Jesus, Mary, mother of God, what the hell is this: Masturbate-a-thon in San Francisco? The Flopping Aces blog has it right about some people in San Francisco being uncomfortable watching their beloved city [...]</description>
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