They are being asked, in the most effective and time-honored way possible: high prices. Which work well (in the news: ‘According to the Department of Transportation, Americans drove 11 billion miles less in March 2008 than a year earlier’ - first drop since 1979…). 11 billion miles less driving means 20-30 million fewer barrels of oil used, depending what assumptions you make about mileage and the like.

Chuck Schumer says that the one million barrels per day from ANWAR would lower the price of gas one cent… if Saudi Arabia pumps …l one million barrels per day the price will go down 65-70 cents per gallon.

I think both you and Chuck need to show your math….

Generally accepted estimates of the demand elasticity of oil are about 1/4 (demand is not very elastic, which means that prices are). If you take 80 million bpd as world oil production, 1 million bpd would be a 1.25% increase and should result in a price drop of roughly four times that, or 5%, which at current prices would be $6.5 per barrel. You can get about 20 gallons of gas out of a barrel of oil (but you also get a bunch of other products), so if all of this price drop went to gasoline it would get you about 32 cents per gallon. However,
- the supply of gasoline may actually be limited by refinery capacity, not oil availability
- the price change would realistically also be distributed over the other products (fuel oil and so on) from that barrel of oil
- there are other complications
It’s still usable as an upper bound though. Both one cent and 65-70 cents seem unrealistic.

Buh bye, Geo. And don’t forget to tell your bud, AlGore maybe he should conserve by cutting that mansion down to size.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/05/how_much_have_the_democrats_co.html

Chuck Schumer says that the one million barrels per day from ANWAR would lower the price of gas one cent. However, if Saudi Arabia pumps out an additional one million barrels per day the price of gas will go down 65-70 cents per gallon.

I think both you and Chuck need to show your math….

EXAMPLE:

Chuck Schumer says that the one million barrels per day from ANWAR would lower the price of gas one cent. However, if Saudi Arabia pumps out an additional one million barrels per day the price of gas will go down 65-70 cents per gallon.

I shit you not.

And I don’t know why because you have gotten everything you’ve ever wanted from the Bush Administration.

You do not get out much if you believe this. The left got quite a bit as President Bush reached across the aisle and pandered to a lot of the leftist domestic agenda (tax cuts for all being the notable exception).

That must bug you BIG TIME.

Yes it bugs me that we will remain dependent on (held hostage to) foriegn sources for our basic needs when we have so much here. Wealth generated by purchasing these resources goes to dictators like Chavez who oppress their own people while spreading war against others. Wars we are forced to respond to. It SHOULD bug you too. Obviously it does not.

At least I speak from experience and not regurgitate Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh.

I seem to have addressed this already, but thank you for proving my point above and we DO speak from experience. You might want to hit the “author” tab on the main page. We do not agree with you, your diatrabe, and your typical (for leftist trolls) sweeping accusations of what “conservatives” are.

Face it, the days of fossil fuels are nearing their end. I can see you will all be mourning it’s loss.

I guess you missed the part where us “evil conservatives” in the US Military are moving to synthetic fuels generated from biomass (actual “fossile fuels” as some scientists think petroleum is not from biomass alone). we are also doing all we can to increase fuel efficientcy, reliability, and alternatives for new drive systems. I went into some detail above.

As for petrolium’s days nearing their end, GREAT. Just so long as something better comes along. We do not want “change”, we want IMPROVEMENT. Something the left and radical environmentalists do not offer. Just a question though, what about other petroleum products? Fuel is not the only item made by crude oil after all. What will we do if these products go away due to the left’s refusal to keep resources flowing while others are being developed?

And soo…I am signing off now, because these things come into my in-box, and I don’t want my 12 year old daughter to see your spirited emails.

Again with the logical fallacies. Sweep in, insult, and then retreat stating we are all big meanies.

If this response to your misstatements and outright lies is too “spirited”, then I have to wonder how you handle life in general. If you want something that might offend your child, go to DU or Kos… or are they considered “proper” as they attack conservatives (or what they “think” are conservatives) without remorse?

Wyoming looks fine to me. And so does the Prudhoe Bay field. Perhaps Geology hasn’t considered that in ANWR, the only people that live there in Kaktovik WANT oil development:

http://www.anwr.org/features/kaktovik.htm

78% of those Native Americans want oil development in ANWR. They rightly believe that development of this resource is their key to the same opportunities that you and I enjoy living in the lower 48.

How very condescending, elitist and typical of Geology to wish to deny, especially to Native Americans, the same opportunities that he enjoys.

Why is it that these libs feel entitled to tell the rest of us how to live?

Do they think they know better? Yet, history has shown their flawed ideology to be a LOSER everytime it’s tried. You’d think that if they were as smart as they pretend to be that they’d get a clue.

But then, most readers here WOULD think. That’s a skill that apparently escapes robotic neosocialist ideologues like Geology.

Crawl back in your hole Geology. See if I care.

When confronted with factual arguments it turns tail and runs to hide because it doesn’t want the 12 year old daughter to read the follow up e-mails.

Spirited e-mails?

Really?

Where?

Umm…. you can deselect the e-mail follow up box if that is really your concern.

You’re the one who said that this site was “BORING” and that we should “shake things up a bit”.

So, don’t run and hide. Let’s shake things up.

Give us some facts to work with. Go get them.

We’ll be right here to dissect your arguments, disassemble them at the joints, and stack the dry brittle bones in the corner.

On the bright side, there is leasing on the OCS for alternative energies going on right now (does that bug you too?) Face it, the days of fossil fuels are nearing their end. I can see you will all be mourning it’s loss.

And soo…I am signing off now, because these things come into my in-box, and I don’t want my 12 year old daughter to see your spirited emails.

Buh-Bye!

Lefty Troll Geology

We don’t see the lefties protesting the development of offshore oil platforms by the Chinese just mere miles from our shores. But they have been effective in disallowing U.S. companies to do the same.

And as I mentioned in the post, when U.S. platforms in the Gulf were damaged or destroyed by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita there was not one oil soaked beach to point to.

Can the lefties say that the Chinese will have higher standards than we do? Who is going to clean up the mess when one of China’s platforms leaks? WE ARE! And the lefties will use it as another phony excuse not to develop U.S. oil production.

This big lie that the left uses to constrain U.S. oil production is almost as big a whopper as the global warming fraud.

P.S. And need I remind the lefty peaceniks that the U.S. was dragged into World War II by Japan’s lust for oil? What is going to happen when China runs low on gas. Drilling for oil in the U.S. is not only patriotic, but the path to world peace.

Guess what leftists, we ARE conserving as much as we can. Many of us “evil conservatives” have tried to get as far away as we can from debt, dependence, and instability. Yet the elites on the left demand we do more as they do nothing!!

We can conserve all we want, but oil prices will rise as international demand goes up. We are spending billions on new energy sources and fuels in the US but we must drill and refine more until the new fuels are ready and the infrastructure is in place to support it. In addition, US pollution levels are going down, but the rest of the world is skyrocketing and no matter how many times this is pointed out, the left still blames America and “conservatives” for everything.

China will soon flood its people with cheap cars. These new Chinese cars will not have pollution controls. Actually many vehicles used outside the US have little to no pollution controls, and China will flood these markets too.

As another example of the US trying to move away from oil (which the left says us “evil conservatives” are never going to do), the USAF cleared its B-52s to use a new synthetic fuel blend.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123066920

Tests on C-17s are underway. The C-17 has a more complex and newer engine than the B-52, which is why it is used for the second round of tests. Eventually, even fighters will be certified to use this fuel. This fuel cuts emmissions (soot) which is not only good for air quality, but also does not leave a line drawn to the aircraft saying “here I am!”. Right now, the fuel must be mixed with standard JP-8 for safety reasons. Natural fuels have compounds which help the engines run better. The synthetics currently lack these. However, the goal is for a 100% switch to pure synthetics.

Now, for those who do not know, US Army and USMC vehicles also use JP-8 (jet fuel). This means that the ground vehicles we use can all run on this stuff. We add this to the new engines on M1 tanks (doubles their range) along with new drive systems on other vehicles and the US Military may free itself from a huge, vulnerable, and costly, part of its logistics tail. Better still, any diesel engine can use this fuel. If the process can be refined to use waste biomass, any carbon-based material could become fuel. Your bagged grass clippings and bannana peels could be sold to a refinery to make gas.

The downside is that most compost material may become more profitable as fuel instead of fertalizer, further impacting food costs and production. Like the waste of a fuel ethanol, the “hidden costs” could come back to bite us.

At the same time that our domestic companies are being denied, we are allowing China and Venezuela and others to sign 100 year leases.

I wonder if Geology can cite for us where this supposed environmental damage has occurred and which companies were responsible for it.

I also wonder if Geology can tell us the details of the Exxon Valdez spill. Was that domestic or imported oil?

Can you tell us Geology, what is the overall size of ANWR? (Square miles or acres will do.)

Can you also tell us what the size of the proposed drilling area is within ANWR? (Again, choose square miles or acres.)

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Personally, I say get the government out of the way. The gov’t earns more per gallon of gasoline than the oil companies do. The regulations and road blocks toward new exploration, drilling, and refinery capacity are the things that are causing gas prices to be high.

The hypocrisy from the Left on this issue is enormous.

Sort of like Algore’s Twinkie budget.

If the Goracle and the rest of the Hollywierd experts on the Climate would maybe actually do what they preach, then maybe I woud listen to them. But this is all done in the name of Gaia and Socialism. It is a way to bring down our economy from within.

Nice little regurgitation from Mother Jones Magazine Geology but you’re spinning and the facts are getting lost in the process.

All the so-called environmental damage you talk about above is not happening on anything approaching a scale would warrant any concern at all. Oil production in this country is remarkably eco friendly and those picture of the Caribou sunning themselves next to the production facility at Prudhoe Bay is just one of hundreds of photos I could post.

You’re clearly an extremist and are one of those responsible for the present mess we are in. I wonder if you have carried your message to Pope Gore and demanded he and his Hollywood lefty friends who warn of the phony danger from global warming stop flying all over the planet in private planes, own multiple homes that they could not possibly need and otherwise live the very wasteful, decadent lifestyle you ascribe to the rest of us.

There is plenty of energy available to fuel the continued development of the U.S. economy and the world. But you seem to want to put the handcuffs on the U.S.

Why don’t you go protest Chinese building hundreds of new coal fired power plants with few pollution controls. No, you people don’t do that. Your goal is to screw your own country to the point where we can’t afford to keep our military the best in the world to protect your sorry ass.

You’re typical of the self loathing lefty who thinks this country is no better than you are.

Well, newsflash Mr. Watermelon (green on the outside, red on the inside) this country IS better than the twisted delusions you people accept for reality. And if you don’t like it then move to some socialist playground that suits you. I hear North Korea is nice.

But don’t go throwing that UnAmerican label around unless you are ready to take a good hard look in the mirror. I bet if you do take that look in the mirror you see Che Guevara staring back at you.