16 May

The Compassionate Conservative Wartime President

                                       
“Some will carry memories of a face and a voice gone forever. And I will carry this. It is my reminder of lives that ended and a task that does not end.”
- President Bush in a speech before a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001.
In the Rose Garden a few days later …
“The American people have got to understand that when I held up that badge, I meant it. This war on terrorism is my primary focus.”
President George W. Bush holds the badge of a police officer killed in the September attacks. “And I will carry this,” said President Bush during his address to Congress Sept. 20. “It is the police shield of a man named George Howard, who died at the World Trade Center.

In light of the recent criticism regarding President Bush’s golfing statement (blogged by Curt, here), I thought I’d type out this excerpt from Robert Draper’s “Dead Certain”. He was given unprecedented access to key figures in the Bush White House, but certainly doesn’t write a pro-Bush narrative. Supporters and detractors can find quite a bit in these pages that they will like and dislike.

Beginning on Chapter 11, Pg 225 of Robert Draper’s Dead Certain:

Bush had listened, had professed to understand the consequences. Now he had to live with them. That “Major combat operations in Iraq have ended” was, by 2004, thoroughly beside the point. Far more American troops had been killed since that “Mission Accomplished” moment than before it. The mission- to rid the world of menace in Iraq- was far from accomplished, and the toll it exacted was there for him to see, every time he visited a wounded soldier or the families of the fallen.

No one can force a president to make such visits. But, as Andy Card had warned him, this was part of a commander in chief’s job description, and Bush did not run from it. The task became a part of his routine whenever his travels took him near a military hospital. Because such moments couldn’t be a perfunctory meet-and-greet, but instead had to last as much as twenty minutes for each family, the visits taxed his schedule. They also sapped Bush of his emotional reserves, such that the staff knew not to schedule a major public event for him afterward. He invariably cried during such encounters; and though, as some staffers would theorize, Bush’s ability to emote freely enabled him to carry on untormented, the spectacle of maimed young men and women, and of sobbing mothers, would scar anyone’s heart.

Sometimes Card joined his boss; sometimes a warm body from the press shop stood nearby. Joe Hagin nearly always accompanied Bush- though really, this was a lonely moment, the man who sent Americans into harm’s way now confronting the grimness of that act. It was hard for others to appreciate this. Later, in the summer of 2004, Bush was conducting a final run-through of his convention speech, in a suite at the Waldorf-Astoria, in the presence of Rice, Karen Hughes, Card, Rove, Gerson, and Ed Gillespie. He came to an emotionally charged part at the end of the speech in which he acknowledged the somberness of these visits: “I’ve held the children of the fallen who are told their dad or mom is a hero, but would rather just have their mom or dad.”

Karen and Rice both began to cry when he read the line- or tried to read it: Bush was starting to cry as well. Gillespie whispered to Gerson, “Do we really have to say this line?”

When Gerson spoke up and said, “Mr. President, it’s very important that we say this line to show that we understand what’s going on,” Bush angrily cut him off.

We don’t have to say this line,” he snapped. “I have to say this line.”

To the wounded, he asked where they were from and what they liked to do. When it seemed the thing to do, he would crack a joke. Without fail, he thanked them for their service and told them that they made him proud. Often, they told their president that they would like to go back to combat again. Bush would try not to choke up as he indicated that they had already served enough.

To those who had lost a son or a daughter, he could offer no levity. Bush hugged them and wept with them. Occasionally, a family would refuse at the last minute to see the man who had prosecuted this lethal war. Or they would get in his face: “You killed my son! How could you?”

“Your son gave his life for his country,” was all he could say in reply. Or: “Your son was a hero.”

Far more often, they thanked him: Our son died for something he believed in. And this was both a humbling and an emboldening thing to hear- though perhaps not as much as the most common refrain of all, usually spoken with searing eye contact:

Don’t let my son die in vain.

The next paragraphs, to the end of the chapter, covers President Bush’s meeting with Staff Sgt. Michael McNaughton from the 769th Engineer Battalion of the Louisiana National Guard, at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. It’s a detailed account. If you don’t know who McNaughton is and the story about his meeting with President Bush….well,

It doesn’t bother me (as much) that there are those who disagree with President Bush’s decisions, judgment, policies; but what does bother me, is the notion that he is an evil, corrupt, uncaring man.

U.S. President George W. Bush tears up during a ceremony to present the Medal of Honor posthumously to Navy SEAL Petty Officer Michael Monsoor, in the East Room of the White House in Washington, April 8, 2008.
REUTERS/Ho

One final word (citing from the Huffington Post, of all places):

When the White House called my wife, they said she wasn’t allowed to tell even my other son or daughter that we were invited to meet the President. They didn’t want the press to know, and said the President didn’t want the press to know. If it would have leaked out, we would not have had the meeting.”

Which is telling. It belies the complaints of those who think the President has somehow politicized the situation regarding those who have died in Iraq.

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32 Responses to The Compassionate Conservative Wartime President

  1. yonason says: 1

    INTEGRITY – IT’S ESSENTIAL

    Bush has it. And the next president must also have it. Unlike the Dem contenders, McCain seems to. He has his flaws, but the bottom line is that he is an honest and principled man.

    Here is what an ex Green Barret, who knew from personal experience that Kerry is a liar, has to say about McCain.

    Everyone makes mistakes. But only honest people learn the right lessons from them.

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  2. salvage says: 2

    Aaaand that’s why Bush has caught bin Laden and defeated the Taliban!

    Oh wait, he’s done nothing of the sort.

    But he did give up golf!

    And he’s not evil but rather stupid, ignorant and arrogant and it’s those qualities that have resulted in actions that have had rather evil end results.

    Cheney is probably evil however.

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  3. Fasternu426 says: 3

    scrotage,

    I wonder how many family visits Obama has made? Or how many vets that he has paid bedside visits to. He would have cameras rolling so he could put them in a commercial. Integrity and courage are not in his playbook. However, dhimmitude is.

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  4. salvage says: 4

    Awesome.

    Bush is good because he does stuff that a terrorists doesn’t.

    Hitler made family visits and paid bed-side visits to vets with no cameras rolling so does that mean he was a good guy?

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  5. yonason says: 5

    scrotage,

    If I understand what fasternu426 meant, it’s that we have seriously impaired Bin Laden’s ability to function, thus rendering him effectively neutralized. I.e., he might as well be dead.

    The Taliban are NOT resurgent, but desperate, as was Al Qaeda in Iraq before the surge. We deposed a despot, and stopped his financial, logistical, and training support for terrorists worldwide. We have killed many AQ terrorists in Iraq, and captured others who the Dems want us to free; and when we do they attack us again. You know perfectly well that the Dems wouldn’t go after B.L., and you know that because they had many chances and passed them all up, and now they want to abandon what we have accomplished in Iraq. Their strategy is always, “run away.”

    Leaving Iraq would be signing the death warrants of perhaps millions, as the Dems caused us to do in East Asia when we abandoned them to the Communists there. They also want to abandon Iraq to the Iranians, giving them control over vast oil resources and enhancing their power. It is folly, but all you and other Lefties can do is point at what Bush did or might have done wrong, without offering any sane alternative.

    The only “plan” Lefties have is to point out what Reps have done wrong, and a lot of it isn’t, really. But as to what they would “do,” either it’s nothing, or the exact opposite of what should be done. If the Dems have their way, our brave soldiers will have died in vain.

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  6. Wordsmith reminded me of this photo:

    President George W. Bush runs with U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Michael McNaughton, of Denham Springs, La., on the South Lawn April 14, 2004. The two met Jan. 17, 2003, at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where SSgt. McNaughton was recovering from wounds sustained in Afghanistan. The President wished SSgt. McNaughton a speedy recovery so that they might run together in the future.

    Bush goes out of his way to support the troops and especially those who have been injured or the families that have suffered loses.

    You couldn’t find a more decent, caring man.

    My only regret is that I have never met him to tell him so.

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  7. salvage says: 7

    >If I understand what fasternu426 meant,

    You don’t, that’s not what he was saying at all.

    >it’s that we have seriously impaired Bin Laden’s ability to function, thus rendering him effectively neutralized. I.e., he might as well be dead.

    You have not, bin Laden is in the exact same position he was pre-9-11. See he was on the run from the U.S. back then too and it didn’t actually stop him.

    >The Taliban are NOT resurgent, but desperate, as was Al Qaeda in Iraq before the surge.

    Nope, the Taliban are resurgent, al Qeada in Iraq is still fully functional and desperate, think I’ve heard that one before. Once or twice.

    >We deposed a despot, and stopped his financial, logistical, and training support for terrorists worldwide.

    He provided no financial, logistical or any other support for any terrorists. The closest he came was giving blood money to the families of dead Palestinian suicide bombers.

    Furthermore invading a nation to overthrow the government is illegal under bother American and international law and is in fact a war crime.

    I bet you talked WMD like crazy in 2003 and that you don’t mention them much anymore.

    >We have killed many AQ terrorists in Iraq, and captured others who the Dems want us to free; and when we do they attack us again.

    Yes and you killed and captured many more innocent Iraqis and given the terrorists ample recruiting and training grounds as well as a cause to rally around.

    >You know perfectly well that the Dems wouldn’t go after B.L., and you know that because they had many chances and failed, and now want to abandon what we have accomplished in Iraq. Their strategy is always, “run away.”

    What did they “run away” from? And Clinton launched a few attacks against bin Laden and that had people like you screaming “WAG THE DOG!”.

    And what did Bush do to get bin Laden between inauguration and 9-11 again? Ignored the report that said bin Laden was about to attack is the closest he came.

    >Leaving Iraq would be signing the death warrants of perhaps millions, as the Dems caused us to do in East Asia when we abandoned them to the Communists there.

    And staying in Iraq is signing the death warrants of perhaps millions.

    And that’s not what happened in East Asia. American bombing destabilized the region allowing the Khmer Rouge to assume power in Cambodia and launch the killing fields. They were shut down by… can you guess? Let’s see if you can learn anything on your own. Who stopped the slaughter in Cambodia?

    Oh and while you’re learning things how many Vietnamese civilians were killed by America? More or less than Cambodia?

    >They also want to abandon Iraq to the Iranians, giving them control over vast oil resources and enhancing their power.

    Something that would have been impossible under Saddam is now a very real possibility thanks to your Dear Leader. Well done!

    > It is folly, but all you and other Lefties can do is point at what Bush did or might have done wrong, without offering any sane alternative.

    The sane alternative was not to invade but that boat’s sailed and sank hasn’t it? You idiots enable your idiot Child King to drive the car off the cliff and now your sneering to the back seat “What’s your big idea then?”

    Too late for sanity, there’s just going to be more and more blood until America pulls out.

    Then there will be more and more blood and it will be everyone’s fault but the people responsible.

    That’d be you by the way.

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  8. yonason says: 8

    scrotage

    I don’t have time to address all your despicable distortions now, but here are a couple for the road. Time permitting, I’ll be back after tomorrow.

    “not what he meant”
    –O.k., he was just referring to what a decent and honorable person the Koran has made BL into, NOT! I concede the point. He was just saying what a piece of crap BL is. Fine. But BL has also lost a lot of his capability.
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296201,00.html
    …and we have more important things to do than play hide and seek with him. The army has to go where terrorists are operating, and that is in Iraq.

    Taliban is desperate, and not powerful
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/01/taliban_resurgence_sign_of_des.html

    iraq success
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/01/019573.php

    Klinton did squat to stop BL.
    http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm

    Kerry lied, Vietnamese died
    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=3274
    http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Keys

    Cambodian blood on Leftists’ hands
    http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/1998/04/30/american_leftists_were_pol_pots_cheerleaders/
    http://www.markhumphrys.com/communism.asia.html

    And that would be you and your “fellow travelers”

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  9. Fasternu426 says: 9

    “bin Laden is in the exact same position he was pre-9-11″

    What a load of horseshit! The guy’s probably dead in a cave. He only releases audio tapes and if he is alive, is running for his life. The Taliban is on the run and wherever they poke their heads up they get slaughtered wholesale. Same in Iraq.

    scrotage,
    You are a scab picking ingrate that couldn’t see the truth if it bit you on your minuscule male member! Where has America been attacked again? If W did nothing, your ass would be calling for “war against the Taliban, and Why don’t they do something!!!”

    All criticism, zero solutions. Typical leftnut.

    Outta here, going to National Guard drill where I’ll fine tune my mad killin’ skills so we can oppress the third world in the name of America! Hooah!

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  10. salvage says: 10

    >…and we have more important things to do than play hide and seek with him.

    Yes, that was teh Bush Administration’s position in August of 2001.

    So how’d that work out?

    >The army has to go where terrorists are operating, and that is in Iraq.

    They weren’t operating in Iraq before the invasion, your actions opened up a whole new theater for them to recruit and train in.

    >Taliban is desperate, and not powerful

    They are still a force in Afghanistan, they have never been powerful.

    >iraq success
    The only success to come out of Iraq has been the killing of Saddam and his two spawn. Sadly the cost for that has been far too high.

    The reality is Iraq is in a state of low-intensity civil war and this is slowly but surly grinding the whole country into shit. Over four million Iraqis have fled their home, if that’s what you call success I assume the only way you’ll ever describe Iraq as a failure is if everyone in it is dead.

    >Klinton did squat to stop BL.
    Ha! Ha! The way that you spell his name sure tells me you thought long and hard about what Clinton did. The reality is he took as many shots as he reasonably could and he did far more than Bush did between his inauguration and 9-11 and had exactly as much success as Bush did post 9-11.

    >Kerry lied, Vietnamese died
    That’s nice, who cares about Kerry?

    Cambodian blood on Leftists’ hands
    Nope. The blood is on American and Cambodian hands, it was the Vietnamese that put a stop to it and returned Cambodia to stability.

    >What a load of horseshit! The guy’s probably dead in a cave. He only releases audio tapes and if he is alive, is running for his life.

    Nope. He’s most likely on the Pakistani frontier living as he did in Afghanistan. What is he running from? Where would he run to?

    But neat trick, dead guy making tapes.

    >The Taliban is on the run and wherever they poke their heads up they get slaughtered wholesale. Same in Iraq.

    Nope, they do hit and run and scoot and shoot and all the stuff little armies do to big ones. They operatre as a political force where the central government can’t reach. On occasion you have Operation We”ve Done This Before where the Marines go in but the bad guys just bury their guns, wave little American flags and think about where to plant their next IED.

    It’s a military thing but cover and position can compensate for lack of power. See the American Revolutionaries v. The Whole British Empire for an example.

    Did you know that Washington lost far more battles than he won yet he still won the war?

    >Where has America been attacked again?

    Did you know that America wasn’t attacked before 9-11? So that must mean that Clinton was kicking terrorists ass all those years!

    >If W did nothing, your ass would be calling for “war against the Taliban, and Why don’t they do something!!!”

    Actually I’m still calling for that see, the Taliban? They’re still around, your Chimp didn’t do anything, he started to but then got bored and went and began a fresh war to lose without finishing the first one.

    So yeah, why didn’t they do something?

    >All criticism, zero solutions. Typical leftnut.

    So Bush fucks everything up and your upset because the people who warned against and noticed the fucked up state of affairs have no idea how to un-fuck it?

    You are very smart.

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  11. yonason says: 11

    …maybe if I had used the term Klintonius you would have understood, Komrad? Here’s a another piece on your hero, Klinton, and how utterly dishonest he is.
    http://tammybruce.com/2006/09/liveblogging_clinton_insists_b.php
    …and a little humor (thought I better tell you so you will know to laugh)
    http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=1419
    Joke’s on him, and you.

    Kerry lied, Vietnamese died
    That’s nice, who cares about Kerry?

    The millions who died because of him

    Cambodian blood on Leftists’ hands
    Nope. The blood is on American and Cambodian hands, it was the Vietnamese that put a stop to it and returned Cambodia to stability.

    Yeah, American. American Leftists who abandoned them to the killers. And what difference who allegedly stopped it, when it could have been prevented by us to begin with? Your heroes are the scum who, in the first place, helped the KR come to power after the American Leftists washed their hands of her! And these Vietnamese communist filth who are your heroes for “saving” Cambodia from the fire THEY helped start, came to power in Nam after the American Leftists washed their hands of it’s people. And that is where Kerry comes in, as he was death’s point man, without whom the slaughter might not have occurred.

    The stench of the demented deception in scrotage’s posts is almost palpable.

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  12. Aye Chihuahua says: 12

    Same idiocy, different screen name.

    All you lefties like to read and quote the same talking points even when you’ve been proven wrong over and over and over again.

    “They weren’t operating in Iraq before the invasion, your actions opened up a whole new theater for them to recruit and train in.”

    Ever hear or Salman Pak? How about Abu Musab al Zarqawi? Abdul Rahman Yasin?

    “They are still a force in Afghanistan, they have never been powerful.”

    They had control over an entire country. They oppressed the people and killed them by the thousands but they had no power.

    “The only success to come out of Iraq has been the killing of Saddam and his two spawn. Sadly the cost for that has been far too high.”

    25 million people are now free. They are no longer being murdered and buried in mass graves. No more rape rooms. No more torture chambers. No more wood chippers. No more being bound and thrown off of a three story building. Infant mortality rates have drastically decreased. Life is better for the Iraqi people because they are experiencing freedom for the first time ever.

    Why do you think that the cost for their freedom is too high? Is their skin too brown? Is it because they talk funny? Is their blood not red enough?

    “The reality is he took as many shots as he reasonably could”

    That’s funny.

    Yes, Clinton took advantage of each and every one of his opportunities to get OBL. He didn’t really pass up the opportunities to take him into custody when Sudan offered him. Not really. He didn’t pass up the opportunity to take him out with missiles when the CIA had his location nailed down on multiple occasions. Not really. Those are just figments of the imagination.

    You should read the 9-11 Commission Report before you make statements like that.

    “Did you know that America wasn’t attacked before 9-11?”

    Good Lord, man!

    Can you not even remember the first time that the World Trade Center was bombed?

    There were numerous other attacks on US interests around the world including embassies and warships.

    The remainder of your arguments are just as vapid as the ones that I have selected and I’m not even going to waste my time schooling you on the facts because you, like the other moonbats here, choose not to see the truth even when it is looking you in the eye.

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  13. stix1972 says: 13

    Yes the typical Leftie talking points.

    I agree with Aye Chihuawa “Same idiocy, different screen name.”

    it is like talking to a rock, they just do not understand history (or they get their historyform Ward Churchill or some other revisionists)

    Have you ever heard about the Vietamese Boat People or the re-education camps after we left Vietnam to the Commies. Man, people like this disgust me. And this is what they are teaching in our Universities now

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  14. Scott Malensek says: 14

    Who will they hate when President Obama bombs Iran, sets their 40,000 english-speaking, registered suicide bombers into the US with nukes from their nuclear program? If it happens 8 months into his presidency….it happens on his watch and is the fault of the Democrats.

    People need to look beyond their Bush hate and start wondering how much misleading the DNC and their far left drivers are taking Miss Daisy.

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  15. malagent says: 15

    Who will they hate when President Obama…

    I sure there will be plenty still suffering from BDS. They will blame any future issues on the then former President Bush. We all know the Obamassiah can do know wrong. And why stop hating and blaming Bush just because he would be out of office?

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  16. Wordsmith says: 16

    salvage wrote #7:

    it’s that we have seriously impaired Bin Laden’s ability to function, thus rendering him effectively neutralized. I.e., he might as well be dead.

    You have not, bin Laden is in the exact same position he was pre-9-11. See he was on the run from the U.S. back then too and it didn’t actually stop him.

    I see. So what happened back then, when we were hunting for him?

    We deposed a despot, and stopped his financial, logistical, and training support for terrorists worldwide.

    He provided no financial, logistical or any other support for any terrorists. The closest he came was giving blood money to the families of dead Palestinian suicide bombers.

    Are you so sure?
    Investigation concludes Saddam was a terrorist threat

    Saddam’s Files, They Show Terror Plots, But Raise New Questions About Some Media Claims

    Pentagon Report Confirms Saddam’s Regime Supported al Qaida

    Furthermore invading a nation to overthrow the government is illegal under bother American and international law and is in fact a war crime.

    OIF is a continuation of the first Gulf War. Did Saddam not violate the original cease-fire agreements, followed up by UN Resoultions? Who was conducting illegal activity and behaving criminally, here?

    I bet you talked WMD like crazy in 2003 and that you don’t mention them much anymore.

    Actually, I talk about it the same amount. And you?

    Yes and you killed and captured many more innocent Iraqis

    Not the Lancet Study, I hope?

    and given the terrorists ample recruiting and training grounds as well as a cause to rally around.

    I bet you talked abu Ghraib like crazy in 2004. What do you suppose the amount of reportage in relation to the criminal activity did for al Qaeda recruitment?

    And what did Bush do to get bin Laden between inauguration and 9-11 again? Ignored the report that said bin Laden was about to attack is the closest he came.

    Are you trying to spin the August 6th presidential daily brief?

    salvage wrote in comment #10:

    Did you know that America wasn’t attacked before 9-11? So that must mean that Clinton was kicking terrorists ass all those years!

    I’m glad I wasn’t having my morning coffee when I just now read that!

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  17. sky55110 says: 17

    Bush once again is Liar.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/14/olbermann-to-bush-this-wa_n_101831.html

    Olbermann puts Bush in his place telling him to “Shut the Hell Up”

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  18. Aye Chihuahua says: 18

    Sky,

    Your bias is showing again.

    President Bush is a liar now based on what Keith Olbermann says?

    Really?

    You should spend some more time trying to score a “discreet relationship” and less time doing amateur political analysis.

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  19. Mataharley says: 19

    Huffpo and Olbermann?? Geez, no wonder you’re so fubar’d, Flyboy Skye….

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  20. Uddercha0s says: 20

    “They weren’t operating in Iraq before the invasion, your actions opened up a whole new theater for them to recruit and train in.”

    Ever hear or Salman Pak? How about Abu Musab al Zarqawi? Abdul Rahman Yasin?

    Let’s not forget Abu Nidal, alias Sabri al-Banna. He called Arafat a “moderate” haha

    http://www.cfr.org/publication/9153/

    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/08/19/mideast.nidal/

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  21. malagent says: 21

    Olbermann puts Bush in his place telling him to “Shut the Hell Up”

    Despite the nausea, I watched all 12 minutes of this angry rant. I found it no different, if not for a little longer, than anything else out of Olbermanns mouth.

    The only difference I can see between Olbermann and the average angry screaming lefty is that Olbermann appears to be a better orator. It’s nice to have your rants written in advance. When it comes right down it’s just the same hateful, disrespectful, inaccurate, often fabricated,”let’s yell about Bush so we can feel better speeches”

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  22. sky55110 says: 22

    Aye:

    It’s obvious you didn’t view the segment… Bush said when he gave up golf and yet there are pictures of him golfing two months later…

    What do you call that??? I call it a LIE…. so that makes Bush a LIAR….

    it seems you have used that line before about Obama….

    I just wanted to point out YOUR BIAS and Hypocrisy…. and it worked perfectly!!!!

    and Malagent… you say it was inaccurate?? it was fabricated??

    Really??? Can you Prove that??? NOT

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  23. Aye Chihuahua says: 23

    Sky,

    You say the pictures are from two months after President Bush says he gave up golf?

    Prove it…

    I wonder, does your wife know how and where you spend your Internet time?

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  24. sky55110 says: 24

    Aye….

    Check out the segment i gave you a link to …. it’s right there… and that’s not the only place it can be found.

    here is the LINK again…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/14/olbermann-to-bush-this-wa_n_101831.html

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  25. Aye Chihuahua says: 25

    Sky,

    Huffpo links and Limperamann’s claims do not proof make.

    They tell you mindless idiots what you want to hear and you gobble up that pablum like the mindless masses that you are.

    Don’t bother citing cBS either because we all know that they create things when convenient.

    I notice you chose not to answer the other question I posed to you.

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  26. malagent says: 26

    Bush said when he gave up golf and yet there are pictures of him golfing two months later…

    What do you call that??? I call it a LIE…. so that makes Bush a LIAR….

    I call that a stretch. President Bush states when he made the decision not to play golf, not a specific date in which he did so. A picture of the President playing golf two months later does not make him a liar. I do not know the specifics of the game from October but it’s reasonable to assume it could have been something that was already scheduled when he made his decision. Either way, Olbermann and others are acting as though President Bush is running around with a T-Shirt with “Oh poor me, I gave up Golf” printed on it.

    and Malagent… you say it was inaccurate?? it was fabricated??

    Really??? Can you Prove that??? NOT

    See above. I stated…
    “When it comes right down it’s just the same hateful, disrespectful, inaccurate, often fabricated,”let’s yell about Bush so we can feel better speeches””

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  27. yonason says: 27

    “PROOF” THAT BUSH GOLFED AFTER HE “PROMISED” NOT TO?

    Sky%%!!) gave us a link to a HuffPo article for proof of it’s assertions.

    Since I don’t read that garbage, I did a text search on the term “golf” and got “not found” for the result. I then scanned the page for pictures of Bush golfing, and there were none. Hmmm, do you suppose it could be in the Olberman spew? Let me know, because I’m not going in there for no reason, and definitely not without my HAZMAT protective gear on, its way too toxic.

    UPDATE – I rescanned the page and found there was a transcript of Oberman’s spew, so I didn’t have to listen to his whole mentally disturbed rant, and I searched it and sure enough the slime does “prove” that Bush may have played golf “…as late as Oct. 13 of that year, nearly two months later.”

    Now, that’s NEARLY (as in, NOT EXACTLY) 2 months after his decision to stop, not after the time he told us that he stopped, which was years later and only after asked by a reporter why he wasn’t playing.

    The question was, as OlberUnterMentsch himself says, “Mr. President, was there a particular moment or incident that brought you to that decision, or how did you come to that?”

    So, dipwads, REREAD THE QUESTION BUSH WAS ANSWERING ! It was NOT “when did you stop” but “what was the event that brought about the decision to stop!”

    And, numbskulls, he never made a public deal of it. It only came out YEARS AFTER HE STOPPED, and only when he was asked by a reporter! It’s a personal thing, not some publicity stunt, morons.

    Stupid truth challenged slimy Lefties!

    Just how hard did the jerks have to dig to come up with that slander, anyway?! (Like, which reporter asked him that, and was it a setup? I wouldn’t put it past them.)

    UPDATE2: And this is exactly why I don’t take them seriously, because they make things up all the time. Their petty nonsense is always such an incredible waste of time, and it is virtually every time they bark and growl through all the mad-dog foam that covers their propaganda holes.

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  28. MataHarley says: 28

    This is so unbelievably thin and petty that I can’t believe I’m wasting time commenting. But here it goes…

    Per the WaPo “fact checker” blog, Bush played golf at least twice at Andrews AFB after de Mello died.

    Skye says this makes him a “liar”.

    I say to the Flyboy… how does this compare to, say, “”I did not have Sex with that woman…Ms. Lewinsky”…..

    Or perhaps another famous Clinton misspeak, No one “even knew Al Qaeda was a growing concern in October of ‘93.”

    Or how about “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign.”

    Another winner from Obama… “I’ve never done any favors for him.’ – speaking of Rezko, of course.

    Or perhaps while Kennedy is in the news for his condition at the moment, a trip down memory lane includes: “I was fully aware that I was doing everything that I possibly could to get the girl out of the car.”

    Then of course, there’s the infamous “”I remember landing under sniper fire.” by Hillary.

    And you whine about golf? You have some serious problems with priorities guy. Don’t bother us with this stuff.

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  29. yonason says: 29

    MataHarley,

    “Per the WaPo “fact checker” blog, Bush played golf at least twice at Andrews AFB after de Mello died.”

    So, he played golf WITH military personel? In other words it wasn’t just for fun with no thought whatever for the war? I mean, if you are ON a military base, it’s hard to forget the war. And, he might even been playing with officers with whom he wanted to communicate and get information. Not a problem, especially since all he said was, in effect, he made a personal private decision, only shared publically when asked by a reporter, not to play any more just for fun. It seems he’s kept that promise to himself (he never made it to us, so it CAN’T be a lie).

    And, yeah, against the clear deception of the Left, Bush’s comments are straws at which the Leftists deperately grasp to deflect attention away from themselves.

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  30. salvage says: 30

    Bush is caught in a lie, baldfaced complete and total and y’all still defend your Dear Leader to the bitter dead end.

    He’s a liar, a failure and anyone who can’t see that is mad or stupid.

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  31. yonason says: 31

    salivage,

    “Bush is caught in a lie,…”

    No, but you are, and yet you keep on drooling. But that is what your being rabid is all about, irrational paranoid fear and loathing coupled with a tendency to attack those who are doing their best to keep you safe from those who are more rabid than yourself.

    (….. or are they?)

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