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Just came across this vid as well.. things aren’t looking so good for Barry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JyGCBp26lo

he’s about to disown the black community.

if he wants to win that is.

Why all the self rightgeous anger on Wright’s part? He did, ater all, admit last year that somewhere along the way Obama would have to distance himself from him because of his sermons. Both these people are politicians of one sort or another. Besides that, Obama did not exactly disown Wright entirely. He condemned his sermons not the man. And I wonder how many sympathy votes Obama will get from this farce. Ther is nothing more gullible than the American voter especially women.

Sorry, NY Post… you have been duped.

Rev Wright told of of this moment exactly one year ago today in a NYT’s story: The only thing wrong is the specific timing… general or primary election period.

Mr. Wright, who has long prided himself on criticizing the establishment, said he knew that he may not play well in Mr. Obama’s audition for the ultimate establishment job.

“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”

And Mach? You out there? Thank you for the kudos on my prescient analysis. Honestly, I’ve never seen this. But there is one at National Review who is faster on the trigger than I. Amy Holmes called this broadway production back on March 18th at “The Corner”, calling it Obama’s Pastor Plan.

All this “Wright has an ego and it got out of control”, and Obama’s “I never realized” crap is part of the screenplay dialogue. And the media will buy it hook, line and sinker… dutiful extras on a cast of thousands set.

It’s really a “never mind the guy behind the curtain moment”. The “how’s and why’s” take second place to achieving the desired results. And in that, all else is predictable. BHO’s approval ratings will tumble for a few days as the media builds him up as the courageous wounded phoenix. He’ll keep his lead in the popular vote.

But his ultimate goal is to eliminate Wright as a superdelegate and general issue. And in that, he has succeeded.

BTW, to give the back up historic data credit where credit is due, these NYTs and The Corner posts were dug up by an AJ Strata poster… WWS… as we were were battling the source of the hullabalooo. He was an unbeliever until he, himself, supplied some history verifying my hunches.

BarbaraS! Dang, wish I could meet you girl. Obviously we were posting at the exact same time! Look at the time stamp on our dates!

Also, you were one of the “get it” girls early in the game.

Must include you in the “on the house” shots Machiavelli and I have going. You’re one smart cookie! And oh, BTW… do it in MUCH less words than I! LOL

If anything, this should show the ridiculousness of BHO’s original statement which suggested that Jeremiah Wright and Trinity Church are somehow representative of the wider black community. To suggest that the wider swath of the black community is represented by the radical, racist rhetoric of black liberation theology is insulting.
BHO didn’t distance himself from Wright when this first started making news because he didn’t want to; simple as that. Twenty years spent in the pews, having Wright conduct his wedding, and baptize his daughters, shows a real commitment to the ideology. However, when the American electorate demonstrated its displeasure by delivering him a trio of defeats in big state primaries, he’s changing his tune. BHO is now willing to come down on Wright; but clear eyed viewers will see this as an act of political ambition, not a sign of personal epiphany.

‘scuse me, ya’ll… but how does a “public divorce” happen if all don’t play their respective “wounded party” parts??? Wright is just doing what he needs to do to justify Obama’s rejection. It’s all Hollywood/political dialogue. Nothing more. Look to the “end game” results of it all… does Obama rise from the ashes in the primaries and with supers? Or not?

Trust me… Wright and BHO will still be good buds under the radar in the end.

I’d say that if this was a choregraphed plan by Wright and Obama it isn’t going too well.

Something tells me that Obama would prefer NOT to be dealing with this issue again and again and again.

And Daniel Henninger writing in the Wall Street Journal makes an interesting point:

WONDER LAND
By DANIEL HENNINGER
Where Were Obama’s Friends?
May 1, 2008

…This week we learned the limit of a dream in American politics. At Barack Obama’s darkest hour, not one prominent ally came forward to support him. Everyone abandoned Everyman.

No prominent black clergyman came forth to make even the simple point that Jeremiah Wright’s notion of the “black church” is but one point on a spectrum of faith. Rev. Wright, now written off as a virtual nut case, got more support from black clergymen than did Obama.

Barack Obama was bleeding by Monday and needed cover. Where, when he could have used them, were Obama’s oh-so-famous endorsers: Jesse Jackson, Ted Kennedy, Oprah, John Kerry, Chris Dodd, Patrick Leahy, Tom Daschle, Amy Klobuchar, Claire McCaskill, Jay Rockefeller, John Lewis, Toni Morrison, Roger Wilkins, Eric Holder, Robert Reich, Ted Sorenson, Alice Walker, David Wilhelm, Cornel West, Clifford Alexander, Donald McHenry, Patricia Wald, Newton Minow?

Where were all the big-city mayors who went over to the Obama camp: Chicago’s Richard Daley, Cleveland’s Frank Reynolds, Atlanta’s Shirley Franklin, Washington’s Adrian Fenty, Newark’s Cory Booker, Baltimore’s Sheila Dixon?

Surely, the smart people running the Obama campaign could have choreographed this effort better, if indeed, that was their plan.

I agree Mike. I can not imagine that anyone believes that this mess Wright has created is going to some how benefit Obama.

I have never, ever seen a more poorly introduced characture than J Wright. I would bet 95% of the voting public had never heard of this idiot before the youtube videos came out and exposed him as such an extremist. Now his introduction will forever be tied to Barack Obama. How in the green world can this ever, ever turn into a good thing for Barack?

I try and not take extreme positions either way, I try not to be judgemental and remain open minded to indivuals on both sides of an argument. But J Wright is as unimaginably embarassing a former Marine to me as the guy who climbed the Tower at U of Texas and Lee Harvey.

Take his freakin’ EGAs away from him.

Here’s why Obama won’t be allowed to win:

If Obama wins, the days of affimative action, entitlements and victimhood will be over and the black community will be seen as having succeeded. Hillary is going to get the nomination, blacks and young people will scream and holler and everyone will point and say “see, look how racist we still are”. They will come together under Hillary because she is still going to offer entitlements and healing as opposed to the evil conservatives. The DNC will still maintain a core voting group and may even pick up a few more seats in Congress (where they can really do the damage). Al, Jesse, Jerry, Louie and the rest can continue with their little act. Think of the books and sermons Jerry will sell after that. Al will shutdown NYC and it will be justified.

This post is not meant to sound racist but it is racial. I think that the black community has been done a huge disservice by these hucksters. Hell, there’s a part of me the figures this was actually planned from the very start as a way to get Hillary elected. Would any sane person (I know, I know), given Obama’s weak legislative resume and known past associates even consider running him for office? Don’t you think the DNC would have raised a couple of concerns? Sure, the general masses might not have known all of this but the party sure as hell did. The media is just as guilty in this. Why is it that bloggers have found the stories months before it is reported in the news? We’ll end up with Hillary and Edwards (He’ll endorse her and she’ll get his delegates), Obama will be given Secratary of State and Michelle & Edwards wife will get to work on Universal Healthcare. It’s my story and I’m sticking with it.

Words I never thought I would hear: Centfla said “I agree Mike.” Thanks Cent. You win my Flying Pig award for the day.

Udder: I’ve heard it said that Wright might not want Obama to win because he and others would have to drop their victimhood act and along with it the stuff like affirmative action that you mention. But I doubt they would. Something tells me that the racebaiters who make quite a nice living from preaching victimology aren’t just going to go away if Obama would win. They’d still be out there stirring up racial animosity no matter what and I’d predict that they’d hold the base of angry supporters they have now.

P.S. On your last point: Sean Hannity replayed the interview he had with Rev. Wright from March 2007. This stuff was out there but the lamestream media wouldn’t run it. Instead, they tried to annoint Obama as a saint. In doing so, they invited the Wright story to become larger than it might otherwise have been.

The media made this mess.

Mata Harley

Thanks for the kind words.

Mike’s America

The people Daniel Henneger named in his column are just waiting to see how all this plays. They don’t want to be tainted if it goes bad for Obama in the long run. But then again Joe Andrew just changed his superdelegate vote. One wonders why with all this going on. I quit trying to figure out democrats long ago.

You’re welcome, BarbaraS. A pleasure to read your stuff.

And again Barbara is correct. One super changed votes in the past 24 hours from Clinton to Obama. He picked up three more besides that… Clinton only two in the last count I heard. On the heels of this controversy, he’s up 4-2 on supers in the first 48 hours. “Not going well”?? I’d say that’s not bad a start while the “wound” is still so fresh.

But we Americans are an impatient lot. It’s a bit early to prounouce it a failed operation, Mike’sA. I fully expected a few days or a week of Obama decline in approval. A dip, then a slow climb back up with BHO credibility reaching new heights for his public condemnation.

I also expected the media to race to his rescue (and they are doing just that), which will work it’s propaganda slowly/steadily on the more confused electorate. I see blog comments, even from GOP non-Obama supporters, about how “sorry” they feel for Obama. The ground swell of sympathy will only grow, and I’ll go out on a limb and predict the tides for popular and supers support will remain in BHO’s favor.

Obama tried to set to rest the appearance of staging this. He says if it was politically motivated, why didn’t he do it last year? I respond that he didn’t want to do it unless necessary. Plus he thought his “A More Perfect Union” speech had done the trick.

But it didn’t…. Wright continued to be a liability that aboth BHO and Wright knew he had to ditch.

Fact is the end results (being the goal of winning the popular vote, not scaring away the supers, and stashing Wright a safe distance away) are something we won’t know tomorrow or the next day. So it’s a wait and see how it all plays out thru the end of May. Certainly if more believe, as I do, that this is choreographed, it will be his demise. But I appear to be in a minority. That bodes well for this being quite successful over time.

MataH: If that is indeed Obama’s plan it is a scheme riskier than any Al Gore cooked up.

Latest polls show Obama slipping in both Indiana and North Carolina. The white voters Obama needs to beat Hillary don’t seem to be sipping the Kool Aid that the Obamatons are serving.

One thing though, Obama knows that even though he tossed Wright under the bus, he can still count on the black vote. After all, they are used to Democrats using them for political advantage.

Rush Limbaugh had a great comment along those lines this afternoon and as soon as he posts it on his web site, I’ll drop an excerpt here.

Barbara S: There have been persistent rumors that the Obama campaign was going to bring out some mass collection of super delegates in an orchestrated P.R. attempt to end the race. But thus far, it hasn’t happened.

Keep your eyes on North Carolina:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_democratic_primary-275.html

Obama was way ahead in NC only two weeks ago. And don’t forget that Hillary has been outperforming opinion polls (The Bradley Factor?). If despite the much higher percentage of black voters in the NC Dem primary than Pennsylvania Hillary comes to within low single digits of Obama (even if he wins) she will have an even stronger case to make to the super delegates.

Risky plan, perhaps, Mike’sA. But did BHO have any other choice? Even had Wright kept his mouth shut… as he did since the A Perfect Union speech.. it was a constant rumble in press and blogs, eating away slowly at Obama’s credibility and rattling the supers.

I’ll be happy to eat crow if time proves my suspicions wrong. But it’s going to be convention time before we know if their last ditch effort to get Wright off Obama’s back works… when all the voting is done by electorate and supers.

And I sure don’t place any faith in the polls as a measure of this plan’s success or failure. Saw some poll results in another thread here that had McCain ahead of both Hil/BHO by 3 or four points. Yet just this AM I saw a WSJ poll with McCain trailing both DNC candidates by the same percentile.

Just depends upon what 1000 people you ask… And, as we all know, the only “poll” that counts is elections.

MataH: I won’t be serving up any crow to you on this issue. We’re all reading the tea leaves here.

I do agree with the talking heads who suggest that the damage here won’t really show until the general election. I still expect Obama to be the nominee and since he has lost the mantle of being the transracial candidate what’s he got to run on? Can he claim to be the candidate above partisanship when John McCain has a record of taking views counter to the majority of his party?

I think we will no more Tuesday night. Maybe we can do another of our live chats. But you didn’t join us last time did you?

Obama created this disaster and now he has to deal with it.

I dont care for he or his Pastor Nutball.

Even without Pastor Nutball, Obama is NOT fit to be President of The United States.

He doesnt have the experience, and the only thing he has going for him is he’s black.

Uddercha0s, I’m confused that you think Obama is anti-affirmative action??

BHO did a radio ad in 2006, opposing Ward Connerly’s position for abolishment of affirmative action during the Michigan initiative. Connerly won…

While he hasn’t flat out said he’s for affirmative action on the campaign trail (no doubt, purposely, as it’s not a popular stance), the ad above, plus his A More Perfect Union speech, suggests that he not only intends to keep it into place, but expand it to include other “victims” of white America’s “dreams”.

In the white community, the path to a more perfect union means acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination – and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past – are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds – by investing in our schools and our communities; by enforcing our civil rights laws and ensuring fairness in our criminal justice system; by providing this generation with ladders of opportunity that were unavailable for previous generations. It requires all Americans to realize that your dreams do not have to come at the expense of my dreams; that investing in the health, welfare, and education of black and brown and white children will ultimately help all of America prosper.

I don’t know about you, but I consider that “not just with words, but with deeds” bit, combined with “providing this generation with ladders of opportunity” an only slightly veiled threat of affirmative actionesque domestic policies.

Mata, I don’t think that at all. I’m looking at it from the perspective of white sheep in the masses who will somehow feel that the races have finally become a level playing field with the election of a black man. I really could have worded my post a little better. He has been trying to portray it as such though. The other day I recall him speaking and saying that he wouldn’t expect his daughters to be given preferential treatment over someone less fortunate (I’ll have to scrounge and find where I saw it. I record most major speeches and such). The key is, like you said, he hasn’t flat out said it and has made it appear with certain “soundbites” that he wouldn’t be for them so to speak. He has been awfully quiet on this one. This is the whole good cop – bad cop thing.

Let me be clear. I am firmly convinced the man is a Marxist. As much as I think the Rev is sh*t wrapped in skin, I believe him more than I believe anything Obama has to say. The Rev hasn’t changed in 40 years. We know what he is. Obama changes by the news cycle.

OOOoooookay. Musta “udderly” missed that “sarcasm” button in there. LOL

You are speaking of his vague comments on the affirmative action issue that he felt his girls would be considered “pretty advantaged”. He’s been saying that since last year.

Here’s the Boston Globe article on Obama/affirmative action from a couple of days ago. Note Obama uses the same “A More Perfect Union” language… ladders of opportunity… a shot at pursing those “dreams” that come at the expense of white America. Yep, my instincts were right that day when I said to self “oh no… more affirmative action stuff!”

So when ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, in the waning minutes of the Pennsylvania debate, asked Obama for his views about affirmative action, Obama’s answer was a microcosm of the strengths – and some of the recently apparent weaknesses – of his campaign: The Illinois senator’s reply was intriguing but fuzzy, responsive to voters’ underlying concerns but not really specific in policy terms.

Obama began, “Well, I think that the basic principle that should guide discussions not just of affirmative action, but how we are admitting young people to college generally, is how do we make sure that we’re providing ladders of opportunity for people? How do we make sure that every child in America has a decent shot in pursuing their dreams?”

snip

But he added: “I still believe in affirmative action as a means of overcoming both historic and potentially current discrimination, but I think that it can’t be a quota system and it can’t be something that is simply applied without looking at the whole person, whether that person is black, or white, or Hispanic, male or female. What we want to do is make sure that people who’ve been locked out of opportunity are going to be able to walk through those doors of opportunity in the future.”

Aww.. c’mon Mata..You’re sounding bitter there. “They don’t want the whole pie,” “There are some who do, but most Americans feel blessed just being able to thrive a little bit. But that is becoming even more out of reach.” “The truth is, in order to get things … then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.”

I’m going to have to start using /sarcasm tags lol

As promised, here is what Rush Limbaugh said today about Dems and support from black America:

You can see the trend lines, but you’re scared to death to take this away from Obama because he leads in delegates; and you’re really frightened that you are going to lose the black vote, perhaps permanently, if you take away the nomination. It must be apparent to you that Senator Obama will not lead you to victory. You have to know this. But you fear that denying him support will create a permanent fissure between black voters and Democrats. No Democrat has the courage to examine this flawed premise. It is up to me to advise and address you superdelegates to consider some facts. President John Kennedy and his brother Robert Kennedy wiretapped Dr. King. Black voters stayed with Democrats. Democrats stood in the schoolhouse doors vowing, “Segregation forever!”

Democrats voted against landmark civil rights legislation; Republicans passed it. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Bull Connor was a Democrat. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Democrats created the welfare state, destroying millions of black families. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Democrats bent over forward for the teachers unions, ruining public education for generations of black kids; leaving them unequipped to participate as equals in American society. Yet! Black voters stayed with Democrats. Democrats urged the early release of criminals to further prey on law-abiding black citizens. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Democrats threw blacks under the bus during the immigration debate. After Rosa Parks finally moved to the front of the bus, Democrats threw blacks under it during the immigration debate because Hispanics are now the largest minority voting bloc. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Democrats have not supported blacks achieving power.

Carl McCall was running for governor of New York, and was denied funds from Terry McAuliffe at the Democrat National Committee. This audience contributed to McCall’s campaign. Civil rights icon Maynard Jackson wanted to be head honcho of the Democrat National Convention. He was denied. Blacks stayed with Democrats. Earlier this year in Selma, Alabama, Mrs. Clinton shows up; mocks the way black people speak. Her husband, Bill Clinton, the reputed “first black president,” shows up in South Carolina and plays not the race card, but a whole deck of race cards! (doing Clinton impression) “Obama? Ha! Of course he gonna win. I mean, it’s like Jesse Jackson. I mean, he’s the black guy.” Blacks stayed with Democrats. You superdelegates in the Democrat Party, you’re worried about denying Obama the nomination because you fear that your black voters will abandon you permanently? Come, come! Review your history with me once again. You Democrats have already done far worse to black voters than yanking the nomination away from Barack Obama. Have no fear, superdelegates. Be confident. Blacks will stay with you. So will Jesse Jackson, so will Al Sharpton, and you can have them.

Thanks for that Mike. Rush hit the nail on the head with that one. Either Dem at this point is seriously flawed (just call me Captain Obvious). The only thing that is really scary is the amount of BDS that would put either one in office.