Comments on: The Violence of “Peace” Protesters http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:16:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Brad (Wheelchair Man) get it right http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-50271 Brad (Wheelchair Man) get it right Sun, 04 May 2008 00:21:19 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-50271 Jonn, I can see you're not aware of my intentions, I was all away at the other end. Not knowing what was going on at all, what the boy video taping. I was coming down the walk, to help one of the girls unload her vehicle and set up the displays. That is when I ran into Jason, and he was screening vulgar words at the girl in a white dress. My input to him was that it was not necessary, as he was trying to get his point across to me. I could see at this time, we are getting nowhere. So I simply suggested that he would go across the street and rally. So there would be no disturbance. At that point in time, he was trying to provoke me to hit him. So yes, I was inching my chair towards him slowly to get him to move away but as you seen by the video. He stopped dead in front of me and refused to move instigating and trying to provoke me to hit them. And if you clearly look. I never once touched him so Jonn before you post, please get your facts straight. In any event, each side has the right to go on either side of the street. But if you're crossing the street within intent to provoke the other side. then you're clearly in the wrong. This is not rocket scientists. I have no problem, nor should anyone else with the boy videoing, however as a parent if he asked questions and don't like the answers that does not give him the right to talk inappropriately and downgrade other members that are protesting. I viewed other tapes that this young gentleman has made, and I think it's great for him to build his documentary work for school or personal reasons. However, there is no call for the way he talks to adult members and the same goes for antiwar protesters should not do the same. Each side has their political agenda and views and maybe if we try to work together to understand each other. Instead of fighting there would be a better resolution and the outcome. This also refers to form talk, bashing one another is not solving anything. But hey, that's just my opinion. Dan Maloney, I don't have the program that the girl had video on 4/22 so I'm having a hard time saving it to my computer. So I can upload it on youtube, I've been working on it for awhile. Hopefully ill get it done soon. If I can't get to work I'll e-mail you. Thanks for offering your assistance. Protesters pro-war or antiwar, we can have our beliefs, but scrutinizing and disrespecting others is not the way to go about it, something to keep in mind that your next protests. We have enough fighting around the world. We don't need to be doing in our backyard. Peace Jonn,
I can see you’re not aware of my intentions, I was all away at the other end. Not knowing what was going on at all, what the boy video taping. I was coming down the walk, to help one of the girls unload her vehicle and set up the displays. That is when I ran into Jason, and he was screening vulgar words at the girl in a white dress. My input to him was that it was not necessary, as he was trying to get his point across to me. I could see at this time, we are getting nowhere. So I simply suggested that he would go across the street and rally. So there would be no disturbance. At that point in time, he was trying to provoke me to hit him. So yes, I was inching my chair towards him slowly to get him to move away but as you seen by the video. He stopped dead in front of me and refused to move instigating and trying to provoke me to hit them. And if you clearly look. I never once touched him so Jonn before you post, please get your facts straight. In any event, each side has the right to go on either side of the street. But if you’re crossing the street within intent to provoke the other side. then you’re clearly in the wrong. This is not rocket scientists. I have no problem, nor should anyone else with the boy videoing, however as a parent if he asked questions and don’t like the answers that does not give him the right to talk inappropriately and downgrade other members that are protesting.

I viewed other tapes that this young gentleman has made, and I think it’s great for him to build his documentary work for school or personal reasons. However, there is no call for the way he talks to adult members and the same goes for antiwar protesters should not do the same.

Each side has their political agenda and views and maybe if we try to work together to understand each other. Instead of fighting there would be a better resolution and the outcome.

This also refers to form talk, bashing one another is not solving anything. But hey, that’s just my opinion.

Dan Maloney, I don’t have the program that the girl had video
on 4/22 so I’m having a hard time saving it to my computer. So I can upload it on youtube, I’ve been working on it for awhile. Hopefully ill get it done soon. If I can’t get to work I’ll e-mail you. Thanks for offering your assistance.

Protesters pro-war or antiwar, we can have our beliefs, but scrutinizing and disrespecting others is not the way to go about it, something to keep in mind that your next protests. We have enough fighting around the world. We don’t need to be doing in our backyard.

Peace

]]> By: Uddercha0s http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-46974 Uddercha0s Thu, 01 May 2008 10:04:04 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-46974 Thanks for that reply and your service Chris. It amazes me how many people fail to see the dangers around them even when they are told to them in plain English. [Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran: Undoubtedly, I say that this slogan and goal is achievable, and with the support and power of God, we will soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism and will breathe in the brilliant time of Islamic sovereignty over today's world. Open your eyes and see the fate of pharaoh. If you do not abandon the path of falsehood, your doomed destiny will be annihilation. The anger of Muslims may reach an explosion point soon. If such a day comes, America and the West should know that the waves of the blast will not remain within the boundaries of our region. If you would like to have good relations with the Iranian nation in the future, recognize the Iranian nation's right. Recognize the Iranian nation's greatness. And bow down before the greatness of the Iranian nation and surrender. If you don't accept [to do this], the Iranian nation will force you to surrender and bow down. ] Those are the words of the leader of another country!! Wake up people. We won't even quote the words of the Jihadists (there, I said it!) Freaking PC police will be showing up at my door. And Obama wants to sit down and "talk" with these people. Oh yeah, sure, military options are on the table. From reading that does anyone think that he wants us to say anything other than we submit to you O great ones? Video: Why We Want To Kill You http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/04/30/dnt.terrorist.lecture.kusa I will refrain from ranting about the other dangers that it seems many people fail to realize: wild animals attack = don't be surprised when you try to live or play with them and they kill and eat you. That's what they do. Politicians lie = They will tell you anything to gain power over your life. Thanks for that reply and your service Chris. It amazes me how many people fail to see the dangers around them even when they are told to them in plain English.

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran:

Undoubtedly, I say that this slogan and goal is achievable, and with the support and power of God, we will soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism and will breathe in the brilliant time of Islamic sovereignty over today's world.

Open your eyes and see the fate of pharaoh. If you do not abandon the path of falsehood, your doomed destiny will be annihilation.

The anger of Muslims may reach an explosion point soon. If such a day comes, America and the West should know that the waves of the blast will not remain within the boundaries of our region.

If you would like to have good relations with the Iranian nation in the future, recognize the Iranian nation's right. Recognize the Iranian nation's greatness. And bow down before the greatness of the Iranian nation and surrender. If you don't accept [to do this], the Iranian nation will force you to surrender and bow down. ]

Those are the words of the leader of another country!! Wake up people. We won’t even quote the words of the Jihadists (there, I said it!) Freaking PC police will be showing up at my door. And Obama wants to sit down and “talk” with these people. Oh yeah, sure, military options are on the table. From reading that does anyone think that he wants us to say anything other than we submit to you O great ones?

Video: Why We Want To Kill You
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/04/30/dnt.terrorist.lecture.kusa

I will refrain from ranting about the other dangers that it seems many people fail to realize:

wild animals attack = don’t be surprised when you try to live or play with them and they kill and eat you. That’s what they do.

Politicians lie = They will tell you anything to gain power over your life.

]]> By: ChrisG http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-46755 ChrisG Thu, 01 May 2008 03:05:18 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-46755 Brandon, I am an officer in the United States Army. I do not enjoy war. However, the "peace" advocated by the "anti-war" activists is blind submission and surrender to islamofascism just as it was when the "anti-war" crowd stabbed us in the back as we stood up to communism and dictators every other time. You seem to be under the delusion that we enjoy war and killing. We do not. We do all we can to limit it and keep as many innocents out of the line of fire as possible. Our enemies (who wish to see you dead or enslaved also) hide behind these innocents and use them as shields and media ploys. I am confounded by how you fail to see the vast differences between us and our foes. However, we know that we must defend ourselves and our nation from clear and present dangers you seem to willfully ignore, and some on the "anti-war" (which is really very PRO war, just not on the West's side) openly ally with. Looking at the signs, slogans, positions, actions, and funding of the "peace movement" shows me that while no one has a monopoly on "patriotism" and "pro-American" positions, the "peace movement" DOES have a monopoly on "Hate America", "Blame America", "wish to see America destroyed/subjugated", and sedition. Brandon,

I am an officer in the United States Army. I do not enjoy war. However, the “peace” advocated by the “anti-war” activists is blind submission and surrender to islamofascism just as it was when the “anti-war” crowd stabbed us in the back as we stood up to communism and dictators every other time.

You seem to be under the delusion that we enjoy war and killing. We do not. We do all we can to limit it and keep as many innocents out of the line of fire as possible. Our enemies (who wish to see you dead or enslaved also) hide behind these innocents and use them as shields and media ploys. I am confounded by how you fail to see the vast differences between us and our foes.

However, we know that we must defend ourselves and our nation from clear and present dangers you seem to willfully ignore, and some on the “anti-war” (which is really very PRO war, just not on the West’s side) openly ally with. Looking at the signs, slogans, positions, actions, and funding of the “peace movement” shows me that while no one has a monopoly on “patriotism” and “pro-American” positions, the “peace movement” DOES have a monopoly on “Hate America”, “Blame America”, “wish to see America destroyed/subjugated”, and sedition.

]]> By: Brad (Wheelchair Man) get it right http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-46637 Brad (Wheelchair Man) get it right Thu, 01 May 2008 00:05:38 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-46637 # By Brad UNITED STATES on Apr 29, 2008 Reading through the blogs, it's amazing how folks can be so sidetracked from the goal that was intended for both the peace protesters and also the protesters that support the war. I was there on 4/22/08 it's sad to see the outrage. The bitterness that The pro-war testers have lashing out at the peace protesters. Each side has two political agendas that we must agree that we want our troops to stay alive and come home healthy to enrich their families lives. All Americans should should want this for our troops. I myself support and hold the upmost respect for everything; the troops have done and are still doing, at the same time. I am antiwar, and my believes, is that the goal in sight, should be to bring them on safely and with minimal harm done to our troops not only physically as possible. I watch Fox news tonight and watched a one sided view point. I have the other DVD video that shows exactly what happened. It shows who had physical contact first image shows who defended themselves. And this DVD will surface soon enough, and all will see the truth. However my one in last point is this young gentleman, that is 14 years old age. Age is a number, and he very well knows it. He's also approximately 6 foot tall. He also provokes. Not only with his camera, but with his mouth at the same token. No one should touch them, and that was never done. His father with his big mouth is how this could all created. into the individual that was on Fox tonight, singing the blues to Bill O'Reilly asking where the sign went and how it got into the street is when her husband leaned up against his leg while he was picking on a guy in a wheelchair trying to get the gag a wheelchair to hit him. I am this man. In any event, it's a sad occurrence, both sides have their political agenda, and it should be respected as law-abiding citizens from both parties. Peace # By Brad /Sociology Major UNITED STATES on Apr 29, 2008 However my one in last point is this young gentleman, that is 14 years old age. Age is a number, and he very well knows it. He's also approximately 6 foot tall. He also provokes. Not only with his camera, but with his mouth at the same token.left out one small part. Is this 14-year-old, which is videoed was jumping over and punching two little girls in her head. But however, they are one he won 22, but they weigh 105, 110.this boy's action was just as bad and was trying to get his shots in as well. So let's not betray using this little 14 year old. not true. He is very aggressive with his mouth and his punches, and no one was hold them down. No one was punching him. In any event, if come to a protest both sides should be more than willing to share information for understanding each party side not saying it's going to work. If you feel hostility, and you take a walking cooldown. Or that's when you notice separate. But hey, that's just my opinion. Peace #

By Brad UNITED STATES on Apr 29, 2008

Reading through the blogs, it’s amazing how folks can be so sidetracked from the goal that was intended for both the peace protesters and also the protesters that support the war. I was there on 4/22/08 it’s sad to see the outrage. The bitterness that The pro-war testers have lashing out at the peace protesters. Each side has two political agendas that we must agree that we want our troops to stay alive and come home healthy to enrich their families lives.
All Americans should should want this for our troops. I myself support and hold the upmost respect for everything; the troops have done and are still doing, at the same time. I am antiwar, and my believes, is that the goal in sight, should be to bring them on safely and with minimal harm done to our troops not only physically as possible. I watch Fox news tonight and watched a one sided view point. I have the other DVD video that shows exactly what happened. It shows who had physical contact first image shows who defended themselves. And this DVD will surface soon enough, and all will see the truth. However my one in last point is this young gentleman, that is 14 years old age. Age is a number, and he very well knows it. He’s also approximately 6 foot tall. He also provokes. Not only with his camera, but with his mouth at the same token. No one should touch them, and that was never done. His father with his big mouth is how this could all created. into the individual that was on Fox tonight, singing the blues to Bill O’Reilly asking where the sign went and how it got into the street is when her husband leaned up against his leg while he was picking on a guy in a wheelchair trying to get the gag a wheelchair to hit him. I am this man. In any event, it’s a sad occurrence, both sides have their political agenda, and it should be respected as law-abiding citizens from both parties.

Peace
#

By Brad /Sociology Major UNITED STATES on Apr 29, 2008

However my one in last point is this young gentleman, that is 14 years old age. Age is a number, and he very well knows it. He’s also approximately 6 foot tall. He also provokes. Not only with his camera, but with his mouth at the same token.left out one small part. Is this 14-year-old, which is videoed was jumping over and punching two little girls in her head. But however, they are one he won 22, but they weigh 105, 110.this boy’s action was just as bad and was trying to get his shots in as well.
So let’s not betray using this little 14 year old. not true. He is very aggressive with his mouth and his punches, and no one was hold them down. No one was punching him.

In any event, if come to a protest both sides should be more than willing to share information for understanding each party side not saying it’s going to work. If you feel hostility, and you take a walking cooldown. Or that’s when you notice separate. But hey, that’s just my opinion.

Peace

]]> By: Brandon http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-42374 Brandon Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:29:38 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-42374 I always find it interesting when prowar advocates point out how confrontational the "peace movement" is when by the very meaning of being pro-war you are advocating violence. I agree that certain people in the "peace movement" take it too far, but to suggest that peace advocates lack dignity is a huge stretch as well. People are angry about the war and rightly so. I read and hear just as much vitriol from prowar advocates as I do from peace activists. Prowar advocates do not have a monopoly on patriotism or what is or isn't "American" they just think they do. I'll end with the words of our lord and savior Jesus Christ: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God". "Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." Peace to you my brothers. Brandon I always find it interesting when prowar advocates point out how confrontational the “peace movement” is when by the very meaning of being pro-war you are advocating violence.

I agree that certain people in the “peace movement” take it too far, but to suggest that peace advocates lack dignity is a huge stretch as well.

People are angry about the war and rightly so. I read and hear just as much vitriol from prowar advocates as I do from peace activists.

Prowar advocates do not have a monopoly on patriotism or what is or isn’t “American” they just think they do.

I’ll end with the words of our lord and savior Jesus Christ:

“Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God”.

“Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”

Peace to you my brothers.

Brandon

]]> By: Fasternu 426 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-42181 Fasternu 426 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:44:12 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-42181 I don't like their peace. I like our peace. I don’t like their peace. I like our peace.

]]> By: Pros and Cons » The good, the bad, and terrifying divine comedy http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-41591 Pros and Cons » The good, the bad, and terrifying divine comedy Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:09:03 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-41591 [...] The Bad, which narrowly beat out this alternate entry. [...] [...] The Bad, which narrowly beat out this alternate entry. [...]

]]> By: Machiavelli http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-41334 Machiavelli Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:53:48 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-41334 I'm not the least bit surprised, the "peace" movement has a long history of being violent in their protests; perhaps only second to the anti-globalization types. That said, the conduct of the law enforcement officer in this case is baffling to me... Usually police tend to be of a more conservative bent, and they know very well what antics the "peace" movement are capable of. That would seem to make them more likely to help those attacked by "peace" protestors. Then again, the left wing nutters usually come well stocked with lawyers, and perhaps this police officer had been on the receiving end of some legal wrangling. But, if there is any honesty in your DA's office, your video tape should bring you justice. Good luck! I’m not the least bit surprised, the “peace” movement has a long history of being violent in their protests; perhaps only second to the anti-globalization types.
That said, the conduct of the law enforcement officer in this case is baffling to me… Usually police tend to be of a more conservative bent, and they know very well what antics the “peace” movement are capable of. That would seem to make them more likely to help those attacked by “peace” protestors.
Then again, the left wing nutters usually come well stocked with lawyers, and perhaps this police officer had been on the receiving end of some legal wrangling. But, if there is any honesty in your DA’s office, your video tape should bring you justice. Good luck!

]]> By: ChrisG http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-41244 ChrisG Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:13:55 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-41244 Richard, The thing is, if these "anarchists" succeed, they would install an oppressive, socialist government which would gleefully, and violently, silence all dissent to (their) rule. Richard,

The thing is, if these “anarchists” succeed, they would install an oppressive, socialist government which would gleefully, and violently, silence all dissent to (their) rule.

]]> By: Lunatics of The “Peaceful” Left | 186 k per second http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-41223 Lunatics of The “Peaceful” Left | 186 k per second Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:56:52 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-41223 [...] Peaceful lefties who punch disabled young women in wheelchairs and 14 year old boys. [...] [...] Peaceful lefties who punch disabled young women in wheelchairs and 14 year old boys. [...]

]]> By: Richard Romano http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-41217 Richard Romano Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:52:31 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-41217 Moonbats are often of the anarchist variety -- they have greater aims beyond anti-war protests, and that is to violently overthrow the government; and since they can't do that, they attack innocent people expressing their guaranteed rights to speech....they are a sick, disgusting bunch and must be repudiated at every level. Moonbats are often of the anarchist variety — they have greater aims beyond anti-war protests, and that is to violently overthrow the government; and since they can’t do that, they attack innocent people expressing their guaranteed rights to speech….they are a sick, disgusting bunch and must be repudiated at every level.

]]> By: Scott http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-41212 Scott Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:47:22 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-41212 I saw a snippet of a McCain speech the other day, and something caught my attention. He was at the bridge where African Americans marched w Dr King and were beaten. It wasn't a place where he was likely to get a lotta votes, but he was there. He spoke to the handful of people that were obviously outnumbered several fold by the press corps in tow. What Senator McCain said was that Joe Schmoe crossed the bridge, and was beaten. He walked across in the search for equal rights, for real freedom, for real liberty. Instead, he took a blow to the head from a policeman, his skull was cracked, his dark jacket became wet with blood, and he fell to the ground. Others were beaten as well. In the midst of it all, America watched. America saw the actions of oppressors, and Americans saw this in the black and white contrast of people who walked across the bridge peacefully...with dignity. dignity. It's amazing how certain words are translated in different languages. In Japanses, there are several different translations and meanings of an "apology." In some native American languages, there are dozens of words that mean the same as the one word in the english language that translates as "bravery." Think about it...how many differnent types of "love" can you describe, yet they all use the same 4-letter word: l-o-v-e. Now think about what it means to walk peacefully, willingly into the face of certain pain, injury and suffering. What word fits that? When people do it in the quest for equal rights, for liberty, and for freedom...what word describes that? dignity... For me, it was a single word in a snippet of a speech on a soundbite snapped fragment of news viewed in the midst of channel surfing between Rock of Love II and Dora The Explorer. Yet DIGNITY has a new meaning-a new translation. To those who gather on the weekends to protest a war that's little more than a political crutch/draw issue for a political party that knows only opposition rather than progression, I ask: Where's YOUR "dignity"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7N2p7Yz2w I saw a snippet of a McCain speech the other day, and something caught my attention. He was at the bridge where African Americans marched w Dr King and were beaten. It wasn’t a place where he was likely to get a lotta votes, but he was there. He spoke to the handful of people that were obviously outnumbered several fold by the press corps in tow. What Senator McCain said was that Joe Schmoe crossed the bridge, and was beaten. He walked across in the search for equal rights, for real freedom, for real liberty. Instead, he took a blow to the head from a policeman, his skull was cracked, his dark jacket became wet with blood, and he fell to the ground. Others were beaten as well. In the midst of it all, America watched. America saw the actions of oppressors, and Americans saw this in the black and white contrast of people who walked across the bridge peacefully…with dignity.

dignity.

It’s amazing how certain words are translated in different languages. In Japanses, there are several different translations and meanings of an “apology.” In some native American languages, there are dozens of words that mean the same as the one word in the english language that translates as “bravery.” Think about it…how many differnent types of “love” can you describe, yet they all use the same 4-letter word: l-o-v-e. Now think about what it means to walk peacefully, willingly into the face of certain pain, injury and suffering. What word fits that? When people do it in the quest for equal rights, for liberty, and for freedom…what word describes that?

dignity…

For me, it was a single word in a snippet of a speech on a soundbite snapped fragment of news viewed in the midst of channel surfing between Rock of Love II and Dora The Explorer. Yet DIGNITY has a new meaning-a new translation.

To those who gather on the weekends to protest a war that’s little more than a political crutch/draw issue for a political party that knows only opposition rather than progression, I ask:

Where’s YOUR “dignity”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7N2p7Yz2w

]]> By: luva the scissors http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-41210 luva the scissors Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:46:07 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-41210 OMG, you have to be kidding me. this is insane for a law officer to behave this way. they have the tape and they should take it to the media. i would, but the libs would most likelly say that this family desevered it. OMG, you have to be kidding me. this is insane for a law officer to behave this way. they have the tape and they should take it to the media. i would, but the libs would most likelly say that this family desevered it.

]]> By: thebronze http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/24/the-violence-of-peace-protesters/#comment-41106 thebronze Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:28:03 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4444#comment-41106 Even worse than the "We support the troops, not the war" Moonbat's is the actions of the police. I expect Libs to act like that, but not the police. Disgraceful. Even worse than the “We support the troops, not the war” Moonbat’s is the actions of the police.

I expect Libs to act like that, but not the police. Disgraceful.

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