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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Obama&#8217;s Transition Team Full Of Lobbyists</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/14/hypocritical-obama/#comment-131514</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Obama&#8217;s Transition Team Full Of Lobbyists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] His hypocrisy knows no bounds. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: wesmorgan1</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/14/hypocritical-obama/#comment-38729</link>
		<dc:creator>wesmorgan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>suek wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;If you get government out of regulating business, business won’t have to lobby government. Big business wants rules to handicap competition. Then it wants to make sure that government doesn’t make rules that handicap _them_. Get government out of business regulation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, Bear Stearns&#039; failure was the result of government regulation?  You&#039;ll have to explain that one to me.

If, however, we accept your notion and suggest that government should &quot;get out&quot; of business regulation, does that extend to &quot;no bailouts?&quot;  No Fed-brokered buyout of Bear Stearns?  No loan guarantees for Chrysler (way back when) or airlines?  No bankruptcy judges allowing Chapter 11 firms to toss their pension plans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>suek wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you get government out of regulating business, business won’t have to lobby government. Big business wants rules to handicap competition. Then it wants to make sure that government doesn’t make rules that handicap _them_. Get government out of business regulation.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, Bear Stearns&#8217; failure was the result of government regulation?  You&#8217;ll have to explain that one to me.</p>
<p>If, however, we accept your notion and suggest that government should &#8220;get out&#8221; of business regulation, does that extend to &#8220;no bailouts?&#8221;  No Fed-brokered buyout of Bear Stearns?  No loan guarantees for Chrysler (way back when) or airlines?  No bankruptcy judges allowing Chapter 11 firms to toss their pension plans?</p>
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		<title>By: wesmorgan1</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/14/hypocritical-obama/#comment-38728</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Obama, we had a gem come from my home state...check this out:
&lt;blockquote&gt;U.S. Rep. Geoff Davis, a Hebron Republican, compared Obama and his message for change similar to a &quot;snake oil salesman.&quot;

He said in his remarks at the GOP dinner that he also recently participated in a &quot;highly classified, national security simulation&quot; with Obama.

&quot;I&#039;m going to tell you something: That boy&#039;s finger does not need to be on the button,&quot; Davis said. &quot;He could not make a decision in that simulation that related to a nuclear threat to this country.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

#1: Why on EARTH is Davis talking, in public, about a &quot;highly classified national security simulation?&quot;  If it&#039;s truly classified, one would strongly suspect that the participant list is classified as well.

#2: One would think that Davis should know better than to refer to any adult as a &quot;boy,&quot; much less a black man.  He&#039;s already sent Obama an apology, saying that his was--you just &lt;b&gt;know&lt;/b&gt; what&#039;s coming, don&#039;t you?--a &quot;poor choice of words.&quot;

#3: This wasn&#039;t a &quot;old guy&quot; thing; Davis is all of 49.  (Obama is 45.)

#4: You know that McCain is probably going to be asked about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Obama, we had a gem come from my home state&#8230;check this out:</p>
<blockquote><p>U.S. Rep. Geoff Davis, a Hebron Republican, compared Obama and his message for change similar to a &#8220;snake oil salesman.&#8221;</p>
<p>He said in his remarks at the GOP dinner that he also recently participated in a &#8220;highly classified, national security simulation&#8221; with Obama.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m going to tell you something: That boy&#8217;s finger does not need to be on the button,&#8221; Davis said. &#8220;He could not make a decision in that simulation that related to a nuclear threat to this country.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>#1: Why on EARTH is Davis talking, in public, about a &#8220;highly classified national security simulation?&#8221;  If it&#8217;s truly classified, one would strongly suspect that the participant list is classified as well.</p>
<p>#2: One would think that Davis should know better than to refer to any adult as a &#8220;boy,&#8221; much less a black man.  He&#8217;s already sent Obama an apology, saying that his was&#8211;you just <b>know</b> what&#8217;s coming, don&#8217;t you?&#8211;a &#8220;poor choice of words.&#8221;</p>
<p>#3: This wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;old guy&#8221; thing; Davis is all of 49.  (Obama is 45.)</p>
<p>#4: You know that McCain is probably going to be asked about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Uddercha0s</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/14/hypocritical-obama/#comment-38720</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you almost totally on that suek. I&#039;m a big fan of the government doing those few things that they were originally tasked to do and leave the people to handle the affairs of the people.  My only point to it would be this, somehow the &quot;voice&quot; of business should be heard since they too pay taxes. One of the problems I see is government is hitting them for the corporate taxes, then they are covering half of employees social security and medicare along with unemployment insurance. The unions are extorting them for job security, increased wages, paychecks and healthcare after retirement. The environmentalists hit the govenment with junk science and have regulations imposed and Wall Street wants to see a profit. And we wonder why we&#039;re losing jobs and paying twice as much for products made here. But, left unchecked, corporations can and will take advantage of employees as we have seen countless times before. There&#039;s a very good article on Detroit vs. Toyota here:

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article3714235.ece 

(I&#039;m not exactly sure why it is under the Women section of Life &amp; Style)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you almost totally on that suek. I&#8217;m a big fan of the government doing those few things that they were originally tasked to do and leave the people to handle the affairs of the people.  My only point to it would be this, somehow the &#8220;voice&#8221; of business should be heard since they too pay taxes. One of the problems I see is government is hitting them for the corporate taxes, then they are covering half of employees social security and medicare along with unemployment insurance. The unions are extorting them for job security, increased wages, paychecks and healthcare after retirement. The environmentalists hit the govenment with junk science and have regulations imposed and Wall Street wants to see a profit. And we wonder why we&#8217;re losing jobs and paying twice as much for products made here. But, left unchecked, corporations can and will take advantage of employees as we have seen countless times before. There&#8217;s a very good article on Detroit vs. Toyota here:</p>
<p><a href="http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article3714235.ece" rel="nofollow">http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article3714235.ece</a> </p>
<p>(I&#8217;m not exactly sure why it is under the Women section of Life &amp; Style)</p>
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		<title>By: Barack Obama News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hypocritical Obama</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/14/hypocritical-obama/#comment-38718</link>
		<dc:creator>Barack Obama News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hypocritical Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/14/hypocritical-obama/#comment-38690</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you get government out of regulating business, business won&#039;t have to lobby government. Big business wants rules to handicap competition.  Then it wants to make sure that government doesn&#039;t make rules that handicap _them_.  Get government out of business regulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you get government out of regulating business, business won&#8217;t have to lobby government. Big business wants rules to handicap competition.  Then it wants to make sure that government doesn&#8217;t make rules that handicap _them_.  Get government out of business regulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Uddercha0s</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/14/hypocritical-obama/#comment-38635</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But there&#039;s no problem being in bed with the unions! Drives me insane. I grew up a mill rat in Pittsburgh. Left there in 1985. The grandson of immigrants. They brought with them a sea-chest of all they owned, their faith and a belief that if they worked hard they could make a better life for their familes. Hell, I don&#039;t even know what my &quot;real&quot; last name is because it was written down as what the person heard at Ellis Island. My father, uncles and cousins were in the steel mills. The other side of the family was in the mines.  My brother just retired from Ford Motor. None of them were union workers, they actually earned and used an education. I worked in Detroit for almost 5 years (computer industry so I worked with the big 3 and their suppliers). I&#039;ve watched what has happened in these areas. What has helped kill the economies of both cities? Unions and stupid promises by corporations. Add to that the environmentalists. It is only a matter of time before the rich are taxed so high and are extorted for entitlements so much, that they say f*% it and take their ball and go else where. Do not get me wrong, corporations if left unchecked will take advantage as well as we had seen in the early days of each of those industries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But there&#8217;s no problem being in bed with the unions! Drives me insane. I grew up a mill rat in Pittsburgh. Left there in 1985. The grandson of immigrants. They brought with them a sea-chest of all they owned, their faith and a belief that if they worked hard they could make a better life for their familes. Hell, I don&#8217;t even know what my &#8220;real&#8221; last name is because it was written down as what the person heard at Ellis Island. My father, uncles and cousins were in the steel mills. The other side of the family was in the mines.  My brother just retired from Ford Motor. None of them were union workers, they actually earned and used an education. I worked in Detroit for almost 5 years (computer industry so I worked with the big 3 and their suppliers). I&#8217;ve watched what has happened in these areas. What has helped kill the economies of both cities? Unions and stupid promises by corporations. Add to that the environmentalists. It is only a matter of time before the rich are taxed so high and are extorted for entitlements so much, that they say f*% it and take their ball and go else where. Do not get me wrong, corporations if left unchecked will take advantage as well as we had seen in the early days of each of those industries.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/14/hypocritical-obama/#comment-38615</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;because corporate lobbyists in Washington are writing our laws and putting their clients’ interests ahead of what’s fair for the American people ... I’m the only candidate who doesn’t take money from corporate PACs and lobbyists&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Barack Obama quietly slipped into the Miami headquarters of a major law firm scarred by the scandals of Jack Abramoff ... [A]rriving a little after 10 a.m. on Oct. 1, Obama spent the next three hours schmoozing, speaking in a video conference to branch offices and raising money at Greenberg Traurig, a billion-dollar firm with one of the biggest lobby shops here.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The only conclusion you can draw is that Obama is part of the problem in Washington. He&#039;s peddling his influence to the highest bidder. And, like the Clintons, he&#039;s willing to do anything to get financial contributions from anyone, and to pander to whatever group he&#039;s in front of. But, then again, we&#039;re suppose to be too stupid to know that because we&#039;re too enthralled with the Bible and firearms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;because corporate lobbyists in Washington are writing our laws and putting their clients’ interests ahead of what’s fair for the American people &#8230; I’m the only candidate who doesn’t take money from corporate PACs and lobbyists&#8221;</i> </p>
<p><i>&#8220;Barack Obama quietly slipped into the Miami headquarters of a major law firm scarred by the scandals of Jack Abramoff &#8230; [A]rriving a little after 10 a.m. on Oct. 1, Obama spent the next three hours schmoozing, speaking in a video conference to branch offices and raising money at Greenberg Traurig, a billion-dollar firm with one of the biggest lobby shops here.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The only conclusion you can draw is that Obama is part of the problem in Washington. He&#8217;s peddling his influence to the highest bidder. And, like the Clintons, he&#8217;s willing to do anything to get financial contributions from anyone, and to pander to whatever group he&#8217;s in front of. But, then again, we&#8217;re suppose to be too stupid to know that because we&#8217;re too enthralled with the Bible and firearms.</p>
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