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	<title>Comments on: Olbermann Favors Tiger Woods Over Iraq War Veterans</title>
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		<title>By: Stix</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/11/olberman-favors-tiger-woods-over-iraq-war-veterans/#comment-37066</link>
		<dc:creator>Stix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne Rooney is a forward for Manchester United.   He is one of the best on the team.  He got a red card in the last World Cup for stomping on another player.   

It prooves my point.  No one except people in England or are fans of soccer  know Wayne Rooney.   But almost everyone knows Tiger.   I also could have said Thiery Henrey, Ranaldo or some other well known soccer players in England and no one here knows who they are.   

A good one could have been David Beckham.    He is more than just a soccer star and everyone know who he is.  He has more Paparazi than almost all of the American stars combined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne Rooney is a forward for Manchester United.   He is one of the best on the team.  He got a red card in the last World Cup for stomping on another player.   </p>
<p>It prooves my point.  No one except people in England or are fans of soccer  know Wayne Rooney.   But almost everyone knows Tiger.   I also could have said Thiery Henrey, Ranaldo or some other well known soccer players in England and no one here knows who they are.   </p>
<p>A good one could have been David Beckham.    He is more than just a soccer star and everyone know who he is.  He has more Paparazi than almost all of the American stars combined.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreadnought</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/11/olberman-favors-tiger-woods-over-iraq-war-veterans/#comment-37058</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreadnought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And I don’t care for golf.

But I do know who Tiger Woods is.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And there you have it.  Maybe it's because of his remarkable name.  How many people know anyone else named Tiger?  Who the heck is Wayne Rooney?  The long-lost cousin of Wayne Rodgers and Mickey Rooney?  Never heard of him.  But everyone knows Tiger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And I don’t care for golf.</p>
<p>But I do know who Tiger Woods is.
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<p>And there you have it.  Maybe it&#8217;s because of his remarkable name.  How many people know anyone else named Tiger?  Who the heck is Wayne Rooney?  The long-lost cousin of Wayne Rodgers and Mickey Rooney?  Never heard of him.  But everyone knows Tiger.</p>
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		<title>By: wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/11/olberman-favors-tiger-woods-over-iraq-war-veterans/#comment-37051</link>
		<dc:creator>wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They don’t cover NASCAR in your local newpaper’s sports section? I’m not doubting you, just trying to figure out how you wouldn’t know that reference.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't follow sports.  I'm not sure why, as I've always been athletic, and grew up on standard, all-American sports; but as I grew older, I just grew out of the desire to sit for hours in front of the tube, watching games for hours.

I personally can't remember anyone ever bringing up NASCAR in my daily conversations.  Football, yes.  Basketball, yes.  Baseball, yes.  UFC/NHB/MMA, yes.  Boxing, yes.  Gymnastics and Olympic sports, yes.  NASCAR?  No.  

And the only thing I'd ever see are highlight crashes on the news; other than that, I don't know what the difference is between NASCAR, Indy 500, and whatever other car races there are.  It'd be like asking me about badminton sports heroes, greyhound races, horse races, and a host of other sports I don't care about.

And I don't care for golf.


But I do know who Tiger Woods is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They don’t cover NASCAR in your local newpaper’s sports section? I’m not doubting you, just trying to figure out how you wouldn’t know that reference.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t follow sports.  I&#8217;m not sure why, as I&#8217;ve always been athletic, and grew up on standard, all-American sports; but as I grew older, I just grew out of the desire to sit for hours in front of the tube, watching games for hours.</p>
<p>I personally can&#8217;t remember anyone ever bringing up NASCAR in my daily conversations.  Football, yes.  Basketball, yes.  Baseball, yes.  UFC/NHB/MMA, yes.  Boxing, yes.  Gymnastics and Olympic sports, yes.  NASCAR?  No.  </p>
<p>And the only thing I&#8217;d ever see are highlight crashes on the news; other than that, I don&#8217;t know what the difference is between NASCAR, Indy 500, and whatever other car races there are.  It&#8217;d be like asking me about badminton sports heroes, greyhound races, horse races, and a host of other sports I don&#8217;t care about.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t care for golf.</p>
<p>But I do know who Tiger Woods is.</p>
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		<title>By: Machiavelli</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/11/olberman-favors-tiger-woods-over-iraq-war-veterans/#comment-36920</link>
		<dc:creator>Machiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the very least MSNBC should force Olbermann to apologize to Bellavia for slandering him. Labeling someone a "racist" is never a joke, given that it's the "witch" word of our times. Let's hope this pushes Bellavia to victory in the electoral contest he's engaged in. 
To twist Bellavia's comments into a racist remark requires the absolutely most paranoid "I'll look for a racial slight anywhere" mind-set. Of course, that's exactly the sort of mind-set that BHO's "retired" spiritual guide Jeremiah Wright has... If I were to hazard why Olbermann decided to make this stretch, it's to try and put McCain in the same muck that BHO landed in.
Heck, if anybody should be offended here, it's the Asian community; given that Tiger is half Asian, and only a quarter black, and yet has been claimed as a black sports icon. (By the way, for those who might rant regarding this remark, that was humor people - laugh!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the very least MSNBC should force Olbermann to apologize to Bellavia for slandering him. Labeling someone a &#8220;racist&#8221; is never a joke, given that it&#8217;s the &#8220;witch&#8221; word of our times. Let&#8217;s hope this pushes Bellavia to victory in the electoral contest he&#8217;s engaged in.<br />
To twist Bellavia&#8217;s comments into a racist remark requires the absolutely most paranoid &#8220;I&#8217;ll look for a racial slight anywhere&#8221; mind-set. Of course, that&#8217;s exactly the sort of mind-set that BHO&#8217;s &#8220;retired&#8221; spiritual guide Jeremiah Wright has&#8230; If I were to hazard why Olbermann decided to make this stretch, it&#8217;s to try and put McCain in the same muck that BHO landed in.<br />
Heck, if anybody should be offended here, it&#8217;s the Asian community; given that Tiger is half Asian, and only a quarter black, and yet has been claimed as a black sports icon. (By the way, for those who might rant regarding this remark, that was humor people - laugh!)</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/11/olberman-favors-tiger-woods-over-iraq-war-veterans/#comment-36911</link>
		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the bigger question of who is more known. Golf is watched by many more people than NASCAR. Golf is the second most watched sport in the world, second only to soccer(football on the other side ofthe pond)  And then comes tennis and F1 racing. The only people that watch NASCAR are Americans.   So in the big scheme ofthings, Tiger Woods is a better choice.  He is the most known sports figure in the world.  I only know of Jeff Gordon because he is from St. Louis and some one I ride the train withto work likes NASCAR.  I have never watched a full NASCAR race and so has most of the country. And I have never seen a commercial with Jeff Gordon on it. Tiger Woods is on commercials all the time.

So the whole squabble is full of BS. Hecould have said Wayne Rooney, because he has more fans than Jeff Gordon, but Americans would have no clue who Wayne Rooney is. Or maybe he could have said Roger Clemons, but more people know Tiger Woods, not becasue he is black, but becasue he is the best golfer out there and has dominated the game for along time now.

If anyone sees racism in this quote, they have problems. It had nothing to do with race at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the bigger question of who is more known. Golf is watched by many more people than NASCAR. Golf is the second most watched sport in the world, second only to soccer(football on the other side ofthe pond)  And then comes tennis and F1 racing. The only people that watch NASCAR are Americans.   So in the big scheme ofthings, Tiger Woods is a better choice.  He is the most known sports figure in the world.  I only know of Jeff Gordon because he is from St. Louis and some one I ride the train withto work likes NASCAR.  I have never watched a full NASCAR race and so has most of the country. And I have never seen a commercial with Jeff Gordon on it. Tiger Woods is on commercials all the time.</p>
<p>So the whole squabble is full of BS. Hecould have said Wayne Rooney, because he has more fans than Jeff Gordon, but Americans would have no clue who Wayne Rooney is. Or maybe he could have said Roger Clemons, but more people know Tiger Woods, not becasue he is black, but becasue he is the best golfer out there and has dominated the game for along time now.</p>
<p>If anyone sees racism in this quote, they have problems. It had nothing to do with race at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incredible!  How in the world anyone could label this as racist is beyond me.  Its one thing is there had been past incidents in Bellavia's past to suggest he was racist but without that context then all this is just typical PC hypersensativity to a innocent, but true, sentiment.  That the real heroes are those fighting for this country, not sport stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredible!  How in the world anyone could label this as racist is beyond me.  Its one thing is there had been past incidents in Bellavia&#8217;s past to suggest he was racist but without that context then all this is just typical PC hypersensativity to a innocent, but true, sentiment.  That the real heroes are those fighting for this country, not sport stars.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreadnought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dreadnought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NASCAR is a popular racing series in the US Only.  Nobody outside of the US knows Jeff Gordon's name.  Tiger is known worldwide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASCAR is a popular racing series in the US Only.  Nobody outside of the US knows Jeff Gordon&#8217;s name.  Tiger is known worldwide.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Yes, but you're aware that there's an invention called television, and on that invention they show shows?"

They don't cover NASCAR in your local newpaper's sports section?  I'm not doubting you, just trying to figure out how you wouldn't know that reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, but you&#8217;re aware that there&#8217;s an invention called television, and on that invention they show shows?&#8221;</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t cover NASCAR in your local newpaper&#8217;s sports section?  I&#8217;m not doubting you, just trying to figure out how you wouldn&#8217;t know that reference.</p>
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		<title>By: wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;eff Gordon is DEFINITELY Tiger Woods matl, and here’s why:
1) Gordon’s endorsements (financial popularity/commercial recognition) is painted all over his car and his outfit &#38; it far outweighs or at least matches Tigers&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I still hadn't heard of him.  Even his name.  I sometimes know people's names without knowing a wit about them.  

Is NASCAR bigger than golf?  Not that it necessarily matters in terms of hero-personality-celebrity status.  I watch neither golf nor NASCAR.

&lt;blockquote&gt;3) Tiger woods crashing in a golf cart is a lot different that Jeff Gordon wrecking into 20+ cars at 200+ miles an hour&lt;/blockquote&gt;

C'mon...can Jeff Gordon do this:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>eff Gordon is DEFINITELY Tiger Woods matl, and here’s why:<br />
1) Gordon’s endorsements (financial popularity/commercial recognition) is painted all over his car and his outfit &amp; it far outweighs or at least matches Tigers</p></blockquote>
<p>I still hadn&#8217;t heard of him.  Even his name.  I sometimes know people&#8217;s names without knowing a wit about them.  </p>
<p>Is NASCAR bigger than golf?  Not that it necessarily matters in terms of hero-personality-celebrity status.  I watch neither golf nor NASCAR.</p>
<blockquote><p>3) Tiger woods crashing in a golf cart is a lot different that Jeff Gordon wrecking into 20+ cars at 200+ miles an hour</p></blockquote>
<p>C&#8217;mon&#8230;can Jeff Gordon do this:</p>
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<p>?</p>
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		<title>By: Thus Spake Ortner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thus Spake Ortner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sure David is waiting next to the phone for Olby's call.  Which is why I've been crank calling him all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure David is waiting next to the phone for Olby&#8217;s call.  Which is why I&#8217;ve been crank calling him all day.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Gordon is DEFINITELY Tiger Woods matl, and here's why:
1) Gordon's endorsements (financial popularity/commercial recognition) is painted all over his car and his outfit &#38; it far outweighs or at least matches Tigers
2) Tiger may have had death threats like Jackie Robinson, but golf is hardly a dangerous sport regardless of how many death threats he gets/got: a single NASCAR race is infinitely more dangerous let alone the hundreds he's driven
3) Tiger woods crashing in a golf cart is a lot different that Jeff Gordon wrecking into 20+ cars at 200+ miles an hour
4) Tiger may draw crowds, but NASCAR draws hundreds of thousands to their big races and many come for Gordon 

Look, Tiger's a skilled guy (oh yeah, and he's black-so what), but he's not a hero on the level of Bellavia, McCain, Jeff Gordon, or Payton Manning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Gordon is DEFINITELY Tiger Woods matl, and here&#8217;s why:<br />
1) Gordon&#8217;s endorsements (financial popularity/commercial recognition) is painted all over his car and his outfit &amp; it far outweighs or at least matches Tigers<br />
2) Tiger may have had death threats like Jackie Robinson, but golf is hardly a dangerous sport regardless of how many death threats he gets/got: a single NASCAR race is infinitely more dangerous let alone the hundreds he&#8217;s driven<br />
3) Tiger woods crashing in a golf cart is a lot different that Jeff Gordon wrecking into 20+ cars at 200+ miles an hour<br />
4) Tiger may draw crowds, but NASCAR draws hundreds of thousands to their big races and many come for Gordon </p>
<p>Look, Tiger&#8217;s a skilled guy (oh yeah, and he&#8217;s black-so what), but he&#8217;s not a hero on the level of Bellavia, McCain, Jeff Gordon, or Payton Manning.</p>
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		<title>By: wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;how is it you have never heard of Jeff Gordon?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

'cause the white man's being held down!  I only know of black athletes.  ;)

Seriously....was I supposed to know "Jeff Gordon"?

Unless I am simply living under a rock, I'd assume more people who don't even follow sports (I'm not hard-core on sports) have heard of Tiger Woods due to the amount of coverage and commercial endorsements, etc.

Is Jeff Gordon really "Tiger Woods" status material?  Is he really that big and well-known?  Was there ever a commercial where people keep saying, "I'm Jeff Gordon"......"I'm Jeff Gordon"...."I'm Jeff Gordon".....?
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"I'm Tiger Woods"&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>how is it you have never heard of Jeff Gordon?</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8217;cause the white man&#8217;s being held down!  I only know of black athletes.  <img src='http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously&#8230;.was I supposed to know &#8220;Jeff Gordon&#8221;?</p>
<p>Unless I am simply living under a rock, I&#8217;d assume more people who don&#8217;t even follow sports (I&#8217;m not hard-core on sports) have heard of Tiger Woods due to the amount of coverage and commercial endorsements, etc.</p>
<p>Is Jeff Gordon really &#8220;Tiger Woods&#8221; status material?  Is he really that big and well-known?  Was there ever a commercial where people keep saying, &#8220;I&#8217;m Jeff Gordon&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;I&#8217;m Jeff Gordon&#8221;&#8230;.&#8221;I&#8217;m Jeff Gordon&#8221;&#8230;..?<br />
<strong><br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m Tiger Woods&#8221;</strong><br />
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		<title>By: Saul Goode</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saul Goode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;# 4 said :I don’t think he’s a Card Carrying Klansman but there was no need to cite Tiger Woods other than to inject a racial undertone&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Horse crap. Woods is the most famous and successful athlete on the panet, and he's worth probably hundreds of millions. OK...fine...nothing wrong with that. Most people would trade places with him.

Most...not all. Bellavia, like McCain, voluntarily risked their lives for the cause of sacrifice and freedom for others. Bellavia thinks that's more noble and more worthy of admiration and emulation. That's it. Woods' race is completely incedental to his comment...not the predicate for it.

I would argue that it would actually be racist to avoid using Woods in the comparison simply because of his color.

I also find it hilariously hypocrtitical that Keith "Chicken n' Waffles" Olbermann stretches to acuse someone else of racist comments.

Oh..and don't forget the  Bill Richardson/guacamole  reference</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p># 4 said :I don’t think he’s a Card Carrying Klansman but there was no need to cite Tiger Woods other than to inject a racial undertone</p></blockquote>
<p>Horse crap. Woods is the most famous and successful athlete on the panet, and he&#8217;s worth probably hundreds of millions. OK&#8230;fine&#8230;nothing wrong with that. Most people would trade places with him.</p>
<p>Most&#8230;not all. Bellavia, like McCain, voluntarily risked their lives for the cause of sacrifice and freedom for others. Bellavia thinks that&#8217;s more noble and more worthy of admiration and emulation. That&#8217;s it. Woods&#8217; race is completely incedental to his comment&#8230;not the predicate for it.</p>
<p>I would argue that it would actually be racist to avoid using Woods in the comparison simply because of his color.</p>
<p>I also find it hilariously hypocrtitical that Keith &#8220;Chicken n&#8217; Waffles&#8221; Olbermann stretches to acuse someone else of racist comments.</p>
<p>Oh..and don&#8217;t forget the  Bill Richardson/guacamole  reference</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/11/olberman-favors-tiger-woods-over-iraq-war-veterans/#comment-36805</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"To say that Bellavia’s choice of naming Tiger Woods was based on a racist undercurrent would make as much sense as accusing him of racism had he not named a prominent black athlete for purposes of making his point."

So true, the logic is the same. Lets say that he did realize that it might be construed to be racist so he changed the name from tiger to some white golfer. Wouldnt he be attacked by people like fit fit for knowingly not naming Tiger because he is black when tiger is so much better then the named white golfer? It is a double edged sword all conservatives must juggle in politics today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To say that Bellavia’s choice of naming Tiger Woods was based on a racist undercurrent would make as much sense as accusing him of racism had he not named a prominent black athlete for purposes of making his point.&#8221;</p>
<p>So true, the logic is the same. Lets say that he did realize that it might be construed to be racist so he changed the name from tiger to some white golfer. Wouldnt he be attacked by people like fit fit for knowingly not naming Tiger because he is black when tiger is so much better then the named white golfer? It is a double edged sword all conservatives must juggle in politics today.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/11/olberman-favors-tiger-woods-over-iraq-war-veterans/#comment-36802</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say Obama has more respect for Conservative philosphy. Has Hillary ever said welfare has contributed to the decline of the black family? Has Hillary ever said “government can’t do everything”?



She supported Welfare Reform... which cut off Welfare.


On liberal blogs Obama's henchmen have keel hauled for supporting that reform.  It's one of the biggest blaclk resentments against the Clintons.


Obama's VERY VERY two faced. He ingratiates himself with white pundits with these fawning comments about black self reliance--in reality he directs a very different campaign aimed at blaming Clinton for things like Welfare Reform--a reform which blacks blame for their misery.

Wright said it best:

"They were riding us dirty."


He was clearly refering to welfare reform.
Obama is massively two faced about issues.  


Obama doesn't respect the other side and incorporate it into his view. he has a surface presentation which masks the bubbling and seething resentment that he rubs raw deliberately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say Obama has more respect for Conservative philosphy. Has Hillary ever said welfare has contributed to the decline of the black family? Has Hillary ever said “government can’t do everything”?</p>
<p>She supported Welfare Reform&#8230; which cut off Welfare.</p>
<p>On liberal blogs Obama&#8217;s henchmen have keel hauled for supporting that reform.  It&#8217;s one of the biggest blaclk resentments against the Clintons.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s VERY VERY two faced. He ingratiates himself with white pundits with these fawning comments about black self reliance&#8211;in reality he directs a very different campaign aimed at blaming Clinton for things like Welfare Reform&#8211;a reform which blacks blame for their misery.</p>
<p>Wright said it best:</p>
<p>&#8220;They were riding us dirty.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was clearly refering to welfare reform.<br />
Obama is massively two faced about issues.  </p>
<p>Obama doesn&#8217;t respect the other side and incorporate it into his view. he has a surface presentation which masks the bubbling and seething resentment that he rubs raw deliberately.</p>
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