Comments on: More Hyperbole In Iraq Reporting http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/ Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:14:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Freedom Now http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-36444 Freedom Now Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:48:47 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-36444 The idiots of the Left really dont know what is going on in Iraq. They only know their own talking points... All of the recent fighting has been a disaster for the Sadrists. Besides the fact that the Iraqi Army controls Basra, the political isolation of the Sadrists is profound... In their own words... "We, the Sadrists, are in a predicament," Hassan al Rubaie, a Sadrist member of parliament said the day the Political Council for National Security announced the plan. "Our political isolation was very clear and real during the meeting." he said, referring to the meeting of the Political Council for National Security, where the legislation was announced (legislation to bar the Sadrists if they dont disarm). "Even the blocs that had in the past supported us are now against us and we cannot stop them from taking action against us in parliament." http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/04/ayatollah_sistani_on.php Open your eyes America, you are defeating your enemies at every turn. The idiots of the Left really dont know what is going on in Iraq. They only know their own talking points…

All of the recent fighting has been a disaster for the Sadrists. Besides the fact that the Iraqi Army controls Basra, the political isolation of the Sadrists is profound…

In their own words…

“We, the Sadrists, are in a predicament,” Hassan al Rubaie, a Sadrist member of parliament said the day the Political Council for National Security announced the plan. “Our political isolation was very clear and real during the meeting.” he said, referring to the meeting of the Political Council for National Security, where the legislation was announced (legislation to bar the Sadrists if they dont disarm). “Even the blocs that had in the past supported us are now against us and we cannot stop them from taking action against us in parliament.”

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/04/ayatollah_sistani_on.php

Open your eyes America, you are defeating your enemies at every turn.

]]> By: suek http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35430 suek Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:33:43 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35430 >>Why can’t the MSM see that it is being used by our enemies?>> They _can_ see it. Their agenda is to bring down the presidency by any means possible and see that it is returned to the Democrats. By any means. If the Dems win the election, there will be an instant turn around in reporting. All will be wine and roses. War, economy ... everything. Thank heavens for the blogs. One of the reasons the Vietnam War had so little support is that there was _only_ the MSM at that time. The "silent majority" had no means of communication. The internet - and blogs - have changed all that. If the Dems win the Whitehouse this year, I see that as one of their first efforts - control of the content of talk radio and the internet. Control information, and you control the population. Liberal facists, one and all. >>Why can’t the MSM see that it is being used by our enemies?>>

They _can_ see it. Their agenda is to bring down the presidency by any means possible and see that it is returned to the Democrats. By any means. If the Dems win the election, there will be an instant turn around in reporting. All will be wine and roses. War, economy … everything.

Thank heavens for the blogs. One of the reasons the Vietnam War had so little support is that there was _only_ the MSM at that time. The “silent majority” had no means of communication. The internet - and blogs - have changed all that. If the Dems win the Whitehouse this year, I see that as one of their first efforts - control of the content of talk radio and the internet. Control information, and you control the population.

Liberal facists, one and all.

]]> By: Machiavelli http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35144 Machiavelli Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:51:25 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35144 The media for all of its supposed duty to "find facts" and report on them seems to be utterly blind to the fact that has been the proverbial "elephant in the room" since the Vietnam War. That fact being; the opponents of the United States have used our own MSM as a propaganda weapon against us, we broadcast their messages, and the "if it bleeds, it leads" philosophy of the MSM contributes to a negative image of the results of our efforts, and exacerbates the war weariness that the public at large may feel. In the bit of fiction reading I do for pleasure I came across a very accurate description of our general public: "America is especially sensitive to war weariness, and nothing brings on backlash like the perception of defeat. I say 'perception' because America is a very all-or-nothing society. We like the big win, the touchdown, the knockout in the first round. We like to know, and for everyone else to know, that our victory wasn't only uncontested, it was positively devastating." - Max Brooks. The Tet Offensive is a prime example of this. The Viet-Cong, as a combat effective body was destroyed in this operation, and every possible military measure taken of the situation pointed to American victory (even North Vietnamese General Giap admitted this). But, because the MSM was there to film the fires in Saigon, the dead American soldiers, and the bullet holes in the U.S. Embassy, the "perception" was one of a great set-back. By contrast our "popular wars" have been of the uncontested victory type, Grenada, Panama, and Gulf War I (which wasn't pursued to its conclusion precisely because the elder Bush realized that the American public would lose its will power when confronted with what that would entail). So, here we are today, engaged in Iraq, in a conflict where every objective indicator points to our victory. But, again the MSM is there, with close-ups of dead bodies, soldiers screaming in pain, and burned our vehicles. Why can't the MSM see that it is being used by our enemies? The media for all of its supposed duty to “find facts” and report on them seems to be utterly blind to the fact that has been the proverbial “elephant in the room” since the Vietnam War. That fact being; the opponents of the United States have used our own MSM as a propaganda weapon against us, we broadcast their messages, and the “if it bleeds, it leads” philosophy of the MSM contributes to a negative image of the results of our efforts, and exacerbates the war weariness that the public at large may feel. In the bit of fiction reading I do for pleasure I came across a very accurate description of our general public: “America is especially sensitive to war weariness, and nothing brings on backlash like the perception of defeat. I say ‘perception’ because America is a very all-or-nothing society. We like the big win, the touchdown, the knockout in the first round. We like to know, and for everyone else to know, that our victory wasn’t only uncontested, it was positively devastating.” - Max Brooks.
The Tet Offensive is a prime example of this. The Viet-Cong, as a combat effective body was destroyed in this operation, and every possible military measure taken of the situation pointed to American victory (even North Vietnamese General Giap admitted this). But, because the MSM was there to film the fires in Saigon, the dead American soldiers, and the bullet holes in the U.S. Embassy, the “perception” was one of a great set-back.
By contrast our “popular wars” have been of the uncontested victory type, Grenada, Panama, and Gulf War I (which wasn’t pursued to its conclusion precisely because the elder Bush realized that the American public would lose its will power when confronted with what that would entail).
So, here we are today, engaged in Iraq, in a conflict where every objective indicator points to our victory. But, again the MSM is there, with close-ups of dead bodies, soldiers screaming in pain, and burned our vehicles. Why can’t the MSM see that it is being used by our enemies?

]]> By: David http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35131 David Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:47:48 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35131 Relying on MSNBC (and other MSM outlets) for reliable information ... Relying on MSNBC (and other MSM outlets) for reliable information …

]]> By: Pros and Cons » If Sadr ‘won’, how come … http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35129 Pros and Cons » If Sadr ‘won’, how come … Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:46:34 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35129 [...] of that turns out to have been right. This NPR story, despite the misleadingly depressing (and sadly typical, even occasionally at the generally fascinating but occasionally hysterical [I might be hysterical [...] [...] of that turns out to have been right. This NPR story, despite the misleadingly depressing (and sadly typical, even occasionally at the generally fascinating but occasionally hysterical [I might be hysterical [...]

]]> By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » More Hyperbole, This Time On Waterboarding http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35116 Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » More Hyperbole, This Time On Waterboarding Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:08:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35116 [...] CBS earlier to CNN with Christiane Amanpour’s ridiculous asertion in her new show that the Pol Pot era of [...] [...] CBS earlier to CNN with Christiane Amanpour’s ridiculous asertion in her new show that the Pol Pot era of [...]

]]> By: suek http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35097 suek Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:23:06 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35097 Well, not an American General in Iraq, but maybe it will suffice... http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/04/arabian-times-iran-iraq-round-up.h Well, not an American General in Iraq, but maybe it will suffice…

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/04/arabian-times-iran-iraq-round-up.h

]]> By: john Ryan http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35089 john Ryan Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:51:55 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35089 Please post a link from any American General in Iraq who thinks that Basra was a victory for the Iraqi Army. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23922935/ We do know that between 1000 and 1500 Iraqi troops that did desert and that about 50 armored humvees were taken by the militia. Please post a link from any American General in Iraq who thinks that Basra was a victory for the Iraqi Army.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23922935/
We do know that between 1000 and 1500 Iraqi troops that did desert and that about 50 armored humvees were taken by the militia.

]]> By: Curt http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35032 Curt Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:50:54 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35032 <blockquote>I think that was suppose to be sarcasm on Michelle’s site by see-dubya.</blockquote> Yup....

I think that was suppose to be sarcasm on Michelle’s site by see-dubya.

Yup….

]]> By: jpm100 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35030 jpm100 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:46:01 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35030 I think that was suppose to be sarcasm on Michelle's site by see-dubya. I think that was suppose to be sarcasm on Michelle’s site by see-dubya.

]]> By: Jewells http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-35029 Jewells Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:43:44 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-35029 Will Hillary suspend disbelief? Will Hillary suspend disbelief?

]]> By: Igor R. http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/04/07/more-hyperbole-in-iraq-reporting/#comment-34977 Igor R. Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:16:40 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=4332#comment-34977 Lara was so excited about being able to report some bad news that this former swimsuit model forgot her extensive journalistic training. It has been said in the past about this delightful correspondent that she "exploits her God-given advantages with a skill that Mata Hari might envy." Lara was so excited about being able to report some bad news that this former swimsuit model forgot her extensive journalistic training. It has been said in the past about this delightful correspondent that she “exploits her God-given advantages with a skill that Mata Hari might envy.”

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