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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30691</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, well, it&#039;s *just* Brian, but here ya go:&lt;a href=&quot;http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/03/26/wednesday-evening-read.php&quot; title=&quot;Typical Lib&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/03/26/wednesday-evening-read.php&quot; title=&quot;Typical Lib&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/03/26/wednesday-evening-read.php&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, well, it&#8217;s *just* Brian, but here ya go:<a href="http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/03/26/wednesday-evening-read.php" title="Typical Lib" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p></a><a href="http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/03/26/wednesday-evening-read.php" title="Typical Lib" rel="nofollow">http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/03/26/wednesday-evening-read.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30453</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually talked to Johnson a few times before and he was a helpful decent guy.  Can&#039;t really speak for what he&#039;s done at his blog because I haven&#039;t read it too much.

Melissa, care to send us a link to this person jumping on you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually talked to Johnson a few times before and he was a helpful decent guy.  Can&#8217;t really speak for what he&#8217;s done at his blog because I haven&#8217;t read it too much.</p>
<p>Melissa, care to send us a link to this person jumping on you?</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30446</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it might not be those people you mentioned in #16 but so far I&#039;ve had one lib jump on me  over at wizbang for linking your work in my semi-daily round up of suggested reads.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it might not be those people you mentioned in #16 but so far I&#8217;ve had one lib jump on me  over at wizbang for linking your work in my semi-daily round up of suggested reads.  </p>
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		<title>By: pagar</title>
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		<dc:creator>pagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Speaking of the Frontline production, just wandered over to Larry Johnson’s &quot;No Quarter&quot;, where I go often for bas amusement… &quot;
Every time I end up over there, I have to go back and re~read all my Anger Management notes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Speaking of the Frontline production, just wandered over to Larry Johnson’s &quot;No Quarter&quot;, where I go often for bas amusement… &quot;<br />
Every time I end up over there, I have to go back and re~read all my Anger Management notes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30431</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A smoking gun?  Proof of what?  They &quot;inside job&quot; that 9/11 was or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A smoking gun?  Proof of what?  They &quot;inside job&quot; that 9/11 was or something?</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30428</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the Frontline production, just wandered over to Larry Johnson&#039;s &quot;No Quarter&quot;, where I go often for bas amusement...  They have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/26/pbs-frontline-cop-out/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;posting dedicated to the &quot;Bush Wars&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; production.  

Talk about a story with no plot...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Nor was it a surprise that any viewer hoping for insight into why Cheney and Bush were so eager to attack Iraq was left with very thin gruel. It was more infotainment, bereft of substantive discussion of the whys and wherefores of what in my view is the most disastrous foreign policy move in our nation’s history.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;Translation... there&#039;s no substance in the production because there was no substance in the quest.

Thus, alot of waaay disappointed PBS viewers, hoping for that &quot;smoking gun&quot;.  Not that it stopped the big 11 No Quarters posters from weighing in anyway...  Evidently, even a &quot;non story&quot; for the devoted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the Frontline production, just wandered over to Larry Johnson&#8217;s &quot;No Quarter&quot;, where I go often for bas amusement&#8230;  They have a <a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/26/pbs-frontline-cop-out/" rel="nofollow"><strong>posting dedicated to the &quot;Bush Wars&quot;</strong></a> production.  </p>
<p>Talk about a story with no plot&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Nor was it a surprise that any viewer hoping for insight into why Cheney and Bush were so eager to attack Iraq was left with very thin gruel. It was more infotainment, bereft of substantive discussion of the whys and wherefores of what in my view is the most disastrous foreign policy move in our nation’s history.</p>
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<p>Translation&#8230; there&#8217;s no substance in the production because there was no substance in the quest.</p>
<p>Thus, alot of waaay disappointed PBS viewers, hoping for that &quot;smoking gun&quot;.  Not that it stopped the big 11 No Quarters posters from weighing in anyway&#8230;  Evidently, even a &quot;non story&quot; for the devoted.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG... tried watching that .. what was it, Sunday night?  Never seen such a complete compilation of liberal headlines in a video extravaganza in my life!  Rather like a &quot;this is your life&quot; of media headlines and attempted scandals since 911.

Odd, tho... they often gave Bush a brush over as a naive dupe, and really went for Cheney&#039;s throat.   It&#039;s Cheney&#039;s fault!  Alert Phillie Steve....  

Then, of course, Colin Powell... da victim!  ba BUM!  LOL

Being a former sound editor in the film/TV biz, I also had to laugh at the dramatic, minor key &quot;suspense and evil&quot; music  that was cue&#039;d all thru the Cheney spots, and some of Bush&#039;s.    Little Hollywood tricks to influence the viewer&#039;s interpretations and moods.  I, however, have become immune to such nonsense after 17 years in post production LaLaLand.  Which, of course, makes me a miserable date to a movie theatre...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG&#8230; tried watching that .. what was it, Sunday night?  Never seen such a complete compilation of liberal headlines in a video extravaganza in my life!  Rather like a &quot;this is your life&quot; of media headlines and attempted scandals since 911.</p>
<p>Odd, tho&#8230; they often gave Bush a brush over as a naive dupe, and really went for Cheney&#8217;s throat.   It&#8217;s Cheney&#8217;s fault!  Alert Phillie Steve&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Then, of course, Colin Powell&#8230; da victim!  ba BUM!  LOL</p>
<p>Being a former sound editor in the film/TV biz, I also had to laugh at the dramatic, minor key &quot;suspense and evil&quot; music  that was cue&#8217;d all thru the Cheney spots, and some of Bush&#8217;s.    Little Hollywood tricks to influence the viewer&#8217;s interpretations and moods.  I, however, have become immune to such nonsense after 17 years in post production LaLaLand.  Which, of course, makes me a miserable date to a movie theatre&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is a smug jackass who thinks he has all the answers.  Unreal.  I am reading this and this guy is a real piece of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is a smug jackass who thinks he has all the answers.  Unreal.  I am reading this and this guy is a real piece of work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30391</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/03/16/DI2008031602418.html

Just saw the debate with the PBS guy on the WashPost site and this guy is a raging lib.  Thinks Congressman should be written about impeaching Bush, poo poo&#039;d Saddam/al Qaeda and is hook line sinker into the whole &quot;Bushlied&quot; canard.

This infuriates me being paid for by our tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/03/16/DI2008031602418.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/03/16/DI2008031602418.html</a></p>
<p>Just saw the debate with the PBS guy on the WashPost site and this guy is a raging lib.  Thinks Congressman should be written about impeaching Bush, poo poo&#8217;d Saddam/al Qaeda and is hook line sinker into the whole &quot;Bushlied&quot; canard.</p>
<p>This infuriates me being paid for by our tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30388</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PBS is now taking and posting comments on their &quot;Bush&#039;s War&quot; special.  Maybe you guys can write them a letter and ask why we never hear about the cost of leaving Saddam in power.  The war isn&#039;t the current cost vs. no cost.  It&#039;s the current cost vs. an unknown cost that included Saddam supporting thousands of jihadis.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/talk/share.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PBS is now taking and posting comments on their &quot;Bush&#8217;s War&quot; special.  Maybe you guys can write them a letter and ask why we never hear about the cost of leaving Saddam in power.  The war isn&#8217;t the current cost vs. no cost.  It&#8217;s the current cost vs. an unknown cost that included Saddam supporting thousands of jihadis.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/talk/share.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/talk/share.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30381</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another excellent piece on the lumbering bureaucracy involved in putting together reports such as the one on Saddam/al Qaeda
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/920aeccx.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another excellent piece on the lumbering bureaucracy involved in putting together reports such as the one on Saddam/al Qaeda<br />
<a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/920aeccx.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/920aeccx.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata,
Thanks for the compliments. 

Much of my angle on the story was to respond to the McClatchy people who me and Scott went back and forth with in their comments sections.  He basically conceded that training, funding, arming of al Qaeda took place but that didn&#039;t constitute a link or tie.  I told him he was playing word games, being pretty dishonest and that he should just lay out the specific support Saddam gave them and the readers can decide what label to ascribe to that support.  Of course he switched subjects and wouldn&#039;t deal with that.

Scott REALLY hammered the guy hard.  I think the comments are down now though.  I couldn&#039;t see them earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mata,<br />
Thanks for the compliments. </p>
<p>Much of my angle on the story was to respond to the McClatchy people who me and Scott went back and forth with in their comments sections.  He basically conceded that training, funding, arming of al Qaeda took place but that didn&#8217;t constitute a link or tie.  I told him he was playing word games, being pretty dishonest and that he should just lay out the specific support Saddam gave them and the readers can decide what label to ascribe to that support.  Of course he switched subjects and wouldn&#8217;t deal with that.</p>
<p>Scott REALLY hammered the guy hard.  I think the comments are down now though.  I couldn&#8217;t see them earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Mark. Forgive me for not mentioning this earlier.

I&#039;ve seen some good analyses popping up here and there of late.  But, as I said on my blog, you went the extra mile on yours with your opening and closing paragraphs.  Meaning that well deserved, and gently delivered, slap on the wrists to those that like to play word games.  

Now if we could just get them to stop playing &quot;what the meaning of is... is&quot;  games with definitions of WMD and al Qaeda as the &quot;lone&quot; enemy....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Mark. Forgive me for not mentioning this earlier.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen some good analyses popping up here and there of late.  But, as I said on my blog, you went the extra mile on yours with your opening and closing paragraphs.  Meaning that well deserved, and gently delivered, slap on the wrists to those that like to play word games.  </p>
<p>Now if we could just get them to stop playing &quot;what the meaning of is&#8230; is&quot;  games with definitions of WMD and al Qaeda as the &quot;lone&quot; enemy&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see my work/blog multitasking isn&#039;t doing so well today, Mark.  LOL

Actually, we&#039;d be in agreement.  I assumed you were speculating an invite from Saddam *to* OBL.  And a guessed that he would be inclined to do that because of the overt support for Iraq in the World Islamic Front statement.    But by then, OBL had a pretty good gig going for him in Afghanistan.

And it looks like you and I agree that the Taliban home was superior to any home in Iraq.

What I meant about the IAEA inspectors... no they weren&#039;t looking for terrorists.  But it&#039;s like holding a bag of weed, and loitering around, rubbernecking, at an accident scene crawling with cops.  Why put put yourself under such add&#039;l scrutiny unnecessarily?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see my work/blog multitasking isn&#8217;t doing so well today, Mark.  LOL</p>
<p>Actually, we&#8217;d be in agreement.  I assumed you were speculating an invite from Saddam *to* OBL.  And a guessed that he would be inclined to do that because of the overt support for Iraq in the World Islamic Front statement.    But by then, OBL had a pretty good gig going for him in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>And it looks like you and I agree that the Taliban home was superior to any home in Iraq.</p>
<p>What I meant about the IAEA inspectors&#8230; no they weren&#8217;t looking for terrorists.  But it&#8217;s like holding a bag of weed, and loitering around, rubbernecking, at an accident scene crawling with cops.  Why put put yourself under such add&#8217;l scrutiny unnecessarily?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/#comment-30369</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata,
I believe the offer came from the Iraqi side on the asylum.  My speculation is that Saddam was so impressed with the al Qaeda attacks he&#039;d seen (no debate on him being impressed) that he offered to take UBL in under an arrangement probably similar to what Abu Nidal and Abu Abbas had.  In 1998 Saddam had inspectors in but they weren&#039;t looking for terrorists, they were looking for WMD, and Saddam probably knew that the Clinton administration wasn&#039;t going to invade so why not invade UBL?

bin Laden (if the offer even took place) likely saw an environment where he&#039;d be autonomous still (not under Saddam&#039;s &quot;operational&quot; control) and possibly a better escape route and hiding places from someone trying to kill/capture him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mata,<br />
I believe the offer came from the Iraqi side on the asylum.  My speculation is that Saddam was so impressed with the al Qaeda attacks he&#8217;d seen (no debate on him being impressed) that he offered to take UBL in under an arrangement probably similar to what Abu Nidal and Abu Abbas had.  In 1998 Saddam had inspectors in but they weren&#8217;t looking for terrorists, they were looking for WMD, and Saddam probably knew that the Clinton administration wasn&#8217;t going to invade so why not invade UBL?</p>
<p>bin Laden (if the offer even took place) likely saw an environment where he&#8217;d be autonomous still (not under Saddam&#8217;s &quot;operational&quot; control) and possibly a better escape route and hiding places from someone trying to kill/capture him.</p>
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