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Re: “I was wrong”
Apparently Conservatives, who are never wrong about anything, ever, consider a willingness to admit a mistake to be a sure sign of weakness. That certainly explains why they worship George W. Bush so much.

Don’t worry. I will not, in the future ever expect similar treatment from Conservatives. Being perfect human beings, Conservatives have no need to admit an error, ever (unless it is the usual sarcasm of “being to nice” to lesser human beings such as me).

It is part of Conservative arrogance, as exemplified so well by Conservative heros such as Donald Rumsfeld (“The greatest Secretary of Defense in History” – Dick Cheney), while Americaqns were dying due to his arrogant dismissal of good advice from his Military Chiefs of Staff.

Please show me a quote of mine to back up you claim…or apologize again. It’s almost Friday, and you’re about due for your weekly “I was wrong”

Your "disagreements" with the Democratic Party take the form of defendig the Bush Administration.  You also indulge int he Republican hate machine, as observed in the "Hand me my broom" thread, which was nothing but a stream of puire hate against her personally.  On that thread I decried similar smears against George W. Bush, but not one single Conservative would admit to their own levels of hatred. 

I think President Clinton did a good job nailing Saddam Hussein’s intelligence headquarters with cruise missiles in 1993. I could probably think of other things, but that’s the one on my mind right now.

I thought the idea that Conservatives kept telling us was that all the Jihadists in the world were going to fly into Iraq so thery could die on our “swords” there. You mean that now those Jihadists are taking everything they have learned from Iraq and are heading into the rest of the world to apply that eductation?

Isn’t that going to mean that the Bush Occupation of Iraq will make America LESS safe?

Re: “As before, I don’t care if it’s a D or an R that brings about success in Iraq. I just want success.”

I spent all of the 1990’s hearing from Conservatives that the prosperity of that era was 100% due to Saint Ronald Reagan. Not one single conservative ever gave a Democratic President any positive credit for any positive outcome that occurred duringhis watch. And no Conservative ever will.

What I am saying is that I do not believe you would live up to your “D or R” comment should any positive outcome in Iraq happen on a “D’s” watch. No more than you held George W.Bush in any way accountable for the negative event of the September 11, 2001 attacks, joining with every other Conservative in declaring it was “all Bill Clinton’s fault”.

Proof.
I can demonstrate that statement right here and now. I will make a positive, unconditional positive statement about George W. Bush, with no conditions or “but’s”. Nor will it be a “positive” that is really a “left-handed” compliment. Conservatives will not be able to make s similar comment about Bill Clinton because their fingers would drop off their hands before something like that could be typed.

President Bush has received far too little credit and attention for the efforts he has speerheaded in addressing the HIV epidemic in Africa. In an effort for which he has, and will likely never, receive his full due, George W. Bush has pushed, and funded, extensive programs that is getting drugs to people who need them and implementing preventive programs. All this effort has, and will, save thousands of lives.

Thank you, George W. Bush, for this great humanitarian effort.

There’s no need to complain about Obama or Clinton bringing troops home faster (as you would like). They can’t and won’t do it.

I’d sure like to takek that as gospel, Scott. But I’m less sure than you. Certainly their campaign promises during midterm elections preyed on voter’s ignorance of the power of Congress. But a DNC commander in chief can actually accomplish the withdrawal at whatever pace they deem feasible.

Whether the DNC withdrawal is bigger and faster than what’s already in the plan is hard to predict. Events on the ground, and the Iraq govt attitude towards our presence, is what will dictate the actual pace under this admin. Under a DNC admin, events on the ground be damned, they are leaving ASAP just to appease a media indoctrinated constituency.

Withdrawal will be difficult, for the last boots have very few to watch their backs. And the jihad movement will make every attempt to take advantage of their isolation from support brigades.

No sir, the transparent rhetoric is the belief that Sen Obama or Sen Clinton will really take office and begin a withdrawal that’s faster and bigger than already planned and started and expected for the future.

Oh, my god–blah blah blah. “[W]hen Gen Petraeus was in DC last time and announced the plan to drawdown the very next sentence he said was that he wanted to go beyond that, but it was just too far in the future.” So there are dreams of withdrawal someday? That’s the best you’ve got? The war’s over? Then maybe everyone here can stop bitching about Obama or Clinton possibly bringing troops home?

What a ridiculously transparent rhetorical tactic!

As to why I post “stuff like that”…well, you get the answer that matches your question. By saying that US forces are only drawing down to pre-Surge levels, you’re demonstrating both an ignorance of the objective (which is to continue beyond pre-Surge levels), or demonstrating a tendency to lie since when Gen Petraeus was in DC last time and announced the plan to drawdown the very next sentence he said was that he wanted to go beyond that, but it was just too far in the future. So, was your question ignorant as I pointed out, OR were your being deceitful and ignoring the full context of the General’s statements and plans so as to somehow feed your sentiments on half truths?

The ASU study points out how the Islamic jihad movement recognizes, and is constantly perfecting their media battle strategy. The Harvard study documents they are successful in that strategy, aided by a media with an agenda.

Uh, Doc? You left off the, no doubt, sarcastic addendum of “didn’t the DNC send you an email?” from that comment. Perhaps it a reference to their bogus campaign promises – no, let’s make that downright lies – duping voters who know nothing of civics into believing Congress had power to act as a melting pot of Commander in Chiefs.

Than again, I could be wrong. But that’s my take…

Seems like a situation where one person was ignorant, and the second informative.

Really? So you’re saying that the troop pullout has already begun? We’re withdrawing from Iraq? You’re saying that moving back to pre-Surge levels equals an end to our involvement in the country?

Why do you even bother posting stupid stuff like that?

Till now, this is one of the best reads I’ve seen on the subject.