Comments on: Americans deserve insight, not old news, on Iraq War, So Where Is It?

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Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:33:37 +0000

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By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:08:14 +0000

Now, why would Doug or anyone not have seen this press release, not have read the report, and why would the only msm coverage of the report be so blatantly wrong as to prove (sometimes even admit) that their reporting wasn’t based on having seen (let alone READ) the actual report?

Could it be that someone’s pushing an agenda counter to the truth and counter to promoting American success? I thought all Americans wanted success for America. Isn’t that part of what patriotism is: the desire to make America succeed?

Ask yourselves, and please respond….why didn’t anyone see the press release or coverage of the report (as opposed to coverage that was supposedly about the report but stated things completely contradictory to its findings)?

By: doug

doug — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:06:41 +0000

True for yesterday. Awful late for a press release. I’d call that a post-press release as it’s a week late.

By: ChrisG

ChrisG — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:39:00 +0000

Doug,

There was a press release. Just no press coverage.

http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2008/pa032008.html

By: doug

doug — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:28:55 +0000

…”server overloads” may have been a reason, but strange the spokesman for the Joint Forces Command didn’t mention it as the problem. And still, why no press release for such a researched milestone?

By: ChrisG

ChrisG — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:03:05 +0000

The Pentagon (and JFCOM) was able to separate the report into pieces and probably still has server overload from the downloads. That could have been one reason they did not want it released online. However, the need for this information to come out and correct ABC (yet again) superceeded the need to keep the server from being stressed.

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:33:06 +0000

I’m not sure what happened, but the report was released online because it was/is being misrepresented by the old media. It’s online now (and it’s friggin HUGE-1600pgs!)

http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2008/pa032008.html

By: doug

doug — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:30:50 +0000

Granted that Saddam supported terrorism, used it as a routine tool to further his state and personal goals, but what I don’t get is why the “the Pentagon cancelled plans to send out a press release announcing the report’s release and will no longer make the report available online.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/rapidreport/2008/03/pentagon-report.html

Strange, no?

By: Mark Eichenlaub

Mark Eichenlaub — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:42:53 +0000

Chris, no problem.

Scott,
Looks like at least one media outlet tried a little harder to read the report
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/03/21/report_saddam_had_many_terrorist_links/4308/

here is the Washington Times take
http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080321/NATION/791914319/1001&template=nextpage

By: ChrisG

ChrisG — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:48:00 +0000

Mark,

I just realized you had commented under one of the links as “Mark E”. So you have some of the info already.

By: ChrisG

ChrisG — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:44:17 +0000

Mark,

One pointed out, at great risk to herself, areas SW of the Green Zone where Saddam had allowed Taliban members to resettle after our 2001-02 invasion of Afghanistan. These were allowed in long before our invasion of Iraq.

Kurd, Shia, and Sunni all stated that Saddam openly welcomed different terror groups into Iraq before 2003. In 2007, a group of Sunni Iraqis executed a Syrian AQ member who was a bomb maker. He had lived in the Al Monsoor area for years.

I also heard of Saddam’s torture chambers and how he ensured people would ‘vote’ for him. In the 90s, he shot people who would not vote for him (one of our translators was shot to force his father to vote). In Saddam’s last ‘election’, everyone who ‘registered’ to vote 6 months prior, “voted” in the election. No one died, got sick, was injured and no one else registered to vote.

I heard about Saddam’s oppression first hand. I also heard about the terror his sons committed.

I wrote a couple of posts, reprinted here, while in Iraq.

http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/09/15/my-iraq/

http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/10/26/why-iraq/

By: Mark Eichenlaub

Mark Eichenlaub — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:18:39 +0000

Chris,
What did Iraqis tell you?

By: ChrisG

ChrisG — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:54:51 +0000

I am also looking through the JFCom site as this report is huge. Confirms what I know of and witnessed in Iraq and talking to Iraqis. Scotts reply, “it is DRAMATICALLY shocking” is an understatement.

It will also be summarily dismissed by the “anti-war” “peace” activists and their fellow travelors. I doubt they are even “allowed” to look at this report.

By: Curt

Curt — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:39:32 +0000

It definitely makes a difference. Every person who reads your stuff, Chris’s stuff, understands the situation better. When that person talks to friends and family, the truth gets passed and overtime the truth comes out. Every little bit helps and as Word stated also, I appreciate how hard you guys work on it.

Hopefully the writer responds but I doubt it. Rarely do they answer those who do not like their piece.

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:16:02 +0000

I hope it makes a difference. How can the truth not?

Man, I’m reading through the 1600pages of the report (ttl pages of all 5volumes), and it is DRAMATICALLY shocking. I mean…blown away is a bad pun in this case, but it’s accurate in more ways than one.